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Nogbad the Bad

Nogbad the Bad

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55 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

It’s true, all live events, sport, music, comedy is so expensive nowadays.

I was lucky enough to get an Ashes 5th test ticket for the Oval in July, ridiculous price I can’t even bring myself to write how much but it’s something I really wanted to do.

It does make you wonder if/when we get to the promised land how many will be priced out from ever seeing City live. 

For me, the modern PL means the journey to the 'promised land' is far more exciting than the prospect of actually being there.

Promotion day would be fantastic celebration of course, after that, when the reality sinks in, well I'd seriously consider taking a season off.

I've really got no interest in the PL.

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26 minutes ago, David Brent said:

I think the prices aren’t right..but it’s the sense of entitlement I can’t comprehend. Season ticket holders demanding their loyalty is repaid despite already been rewarded across 23 home league games and more. 

Also what people are forgetting is that ManC had a say in the pricing.

If we had discounted then the £5 off every ticket for ST holders (this seems to be what people were expecting) would have had to be given to ManC anyway. The money would have to be found from somewhere. Man C agreed to a price and we can't then say well actually you are getting less as we are discounting our ST holders.

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27 minutes ago, Big C said:

The game will sell out, the club which has been struggling in balancing their books will get a load of money from many sources. It's a win for the club

And it's all extra as such, I doubt they would have budgeted for getting this far in the cup or having a bumper reward. 

Funny thing is we could beat ManC and then draw Grimsby, what then ?

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18 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

For me, the modern PL means the journey to the 'promised land' is far more exciting than the prospect of actually being there.

Promotion day would be fantastic celebration of course, after that, when the reality sinks in, well I'd seriously consider taking a season off.

I've really got no interest in the PL.

A lot of truth in that ?

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28 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Except at Lord's where you can take a bottle of wine, 4 cans or equivalent. Generally though Lord's tickets are a bit more. 

Last time I went to Lords was to watch Glos about 18 years ago.

The row of lads behind me and wife were drinking orangeade which didn't have a limit on entry. Except that they'd dumped the orangeade and filled all bottles with scrumpy.

I had to carry my wife out at end of game because the lads kept refilling her pint glass.

Glos beat Worcs. What a day!

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2 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

Last time I went to Lords was to watch Glos about 18 years ago.

The row of lads behind me and wife were drinking orangeade which didn't have a limit on entry. Except that they'd dumped the orangeade and filled all bottles with scrumpy.

I had to carry my wife out at end of game because the lads kept refilling her pint glass.

Glos beat Worcs. What a day!

Lovely job.

Last time I went was for a T20 match between Somerset and Middlesex. Rain delay from before the match meant we stayed in the pub until they announced that the game would actually go ahead. In the end it was declared it could start, but would be 9 over game! Cue us getting into the ground and, after an extra 3 pints in the pub, finally necking the bottle of wine we'd brought for 40 overs in the space of 18. Much Blackbird was sung that day.

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49 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

Last time I went to Lords was to watch Glos about 18 years ago.

The row of lads behind me and wife were drinking orangeade which didn't have a limit on entry. Except that they'd dumped the orangeade and filled all bottles with scrumpy.

I had to carry my wife out at end of game because the lads kept refilling her pint glass.

Glos beat Worcs. What a day!

Yes I remember, vaguely, going to Somerset finals at Lord's. Many years back. All taking in a gallon, or two, of scrumpy. Hic hic

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20 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Why did they have replays in the earlier rounds now extra time and penalties? call me cynical is it to try and get as many of the big boys into the later stages as possible as if a draw likely to win a replay before the threat of penalties

Fixture congestion I imagine

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31 minutes ago, RedM said:

Also what people are forgetting is that ManC had a say in the pricing.

If we had discounted then the £5 off every ticket for ST holders (this seems to be what people were expecting) would have had to be given to ManC anyway. The money would have to be found from somewhere. Man C agreed to a price and we can't then say well actually you are getting less as we are discounting our ST holders.

Bring a pedant (in the absence of BS4 on Tour), the rules of the FA Cup changed 4/5 years back…the home side decides the ticket price these days…but there are rules around not charging away fans more, etc.  your point about having to offer their ST holders a discount is likely to be accurate and very relevant and a point I made on the “how much” thread.  We’d end up giving say £5 discounts to about 17k fans (our 13k+ and 4k City).

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Can’t agree with the moaning about prices to be honest.

ST Holders you’ve already got your savings across the season on every home game.

A big game doesn’t come around often and the club needs the money. This game would sell out at £50 let alone £40 or whatever so it’s right the club maximises revenue. They’ve lowered the prices for less lucrative ties.

Joe blogs off the street won’t get a ticket at general sale

Kf they want one they’ll have to pay £20 for a membership like I had to - and even then won’t get priority over people who have been to games this season.

Of course members who go away miss out on loyalty, and I’m one of those, but I think it’ll get to members + 0 games sale tier 

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My initial reaction was the prices are too high & still feel that but fully understand the rationale & more chilled about it now.  I do think the concessions for OAPS (not there yet)  aren’t great as only £3 differential. Anyway, it’s is what it is and we will have a full house and hopefully a few more points in the bank by the time the game comes around. 

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3 hours ago, cidered abroad said:

I do tend to agree that it's expensive if one is a young married person with children, rising interest mortgages, on a below average wage and so on. If it's a spend too far, grin and bear it, at least it's live on TV.

I'm fortunate to have enough pensions at 79 years to have some spare money for my ticket. The price is small compared with the match I will see four days before the Man City game. I bought it on the basis that it might be the last time I'm able to get to Cardiff to see Wales thumping England. £125. I can't take it with me and I don't think they play football or rugby where I will finish up. It's too hot!

No singing Delilah though ?

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1 hour ago, David Brent said:

I think the prices aren’t right..but it’s the sense of entitlement I can’t comprehend. Season ticket holders demanding their loyalty is repaid despite already been rewarded across 23 home league games and more. 

I don't see the problem with the prices as adult tickets start from £30, but totally agree about you sense of entitlement

Seems to be some people want everything and want it now, when I was younger and did not have any money you prioritised the most important bills, food ect and the luxuries or going out, if you could not afford them you went without.

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As season ticket holders, we don't expect to have a discount on the game. What we expect is that our seats will be held,  and then we decide if we want to go.  It is a high price but how often do we get a top team to play against. 

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2 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

I don't see the problem with the prices as adult tickets start from £30, but totally agree about you sense of entitlement

 

The £30 is family stand ( upper Lansdown) - I think you have to have accompanying kids and buy both together.

Stand alone adult is £38 rising to £48.

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13 minutes ago, Shuffle said:

My initial reaction was the prices are too high & still feel that but fully understand the rationale & more chilled about it now.  I do think the concessions for OAPS (not there yet)  aren’t great as only £3 differential. Anyway, it’s is what it is and we will have a full house and hopefully a few more points in the bank by the time the game comes around. 

Knee-jerker ?

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2 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

The £30 is family stand ( upper Lansdown) - I think you have to have accompanying kids and buy both together.

Stand alone adult is £38 rising to £48.

Yes, I had made reference to that in an earlier post and that any ST holder can move seat, even at £38, I think its not a bad price

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Both my very elderly Dad and I both have season tickets and he’s unable to attend some of the matches for a multitude of reasons (too cold, not feeling well enough etc) so one of a number of mates will come along instead. You wouldn’t believe the number of friends who have indicated that they could be available should he be unable to attend for any reason. 

For what it’s worth, I’m completely fine with City charging big money for this game. A business that loses £14m+ a season isn’t sustainable, and when we have the chance to get some cash back in, then that’s just the way it is. Would love it if we land one on’em and give Man City a bloody nose. We know we’ve got the ability to do it.

Would be a such a shame to miss it, especially if we win. 

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Selred

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13 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Wasn’t Man U and Man C games three years ago about £5 less than these ones? Compare that price against utility bills then and now, the hike don’t seem that great. 

But then compare vs our teams wages which has gone down…

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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Bring a pedant (in the absence of BS4 on Tour), the rules of the FA Cup changed 4/5 years back

To be an 'Ultra Pedant' ???:

  1. In the qualifying rounds both teams mutually agree the prices.
  2. In rounds 1 to 6 the home club decides the prices
  3. The FA decides on the prices for the semi-finals and finals.
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13 minutes ago, Hxj said:

To be an 'Ultra Pedant' ???:

  1. In the qualifying rounds both teams mutually agree the prices.
  2. In rounds 1 to 6 the home club decides the prices
  3. The FA decides on the prices for the semi-finals and finals.

You out-pedanted my pedantry!  Love it! ??????

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Mr Popodopolous

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22 hours ago, OliOTIB said:

Lansdown making a pretty penny out of this mind

Surely it just reduces the amount of cash he has to put in so we can keep going?

We don't tend to make a profit and we don't tend to be cash breakeven in the main through our own devices.

The prices feel a bit steep but in the context of football not so much- football is potentially overpriced but that's another thread.

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Mr Popodopolous

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22 hours ago, Nongazeuse said:

Yes the tickets are quite expensive but these sort of matches don't come up very often.  

Still a lot cheaper than if we had been drawn away.  We also have the (slight) advantage of there being no replay.  

Although I'm interested in this 2nd bit simply because the PL have their £20 ticket cap thing for away fans- some comparable data would be interesting.

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4 hours ago, Super said:

We aren't spurs.

Well obviously but it’s not like a second tier side taking out an arrogant bunch of fancy dans is unprecedented is it? We could get absolutely shafted but by the same token we could send “Pep” home with a black eye. Why not considering the history of this wonderful tournament. If we don’t have belief we might as well not even turn up.

 

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just stopping by.     Take the opportunity to wish Robins every success in this upcoming contest.     Seriously, no impartiality, I really hope you can do it.    Remember, all things are possible in this industry.     Few neutrals won't allow you a sniff but now's your chance to stuff words down their throats and really make an impact on this years competition.     We have a tough game ourselves against Burnley, leading team in your league but we held them at home and in truth, don't fear a replay at Turf Moor.  

Maybe in a minority but old enough to recall Manchester City being a totally unsuccessful team playing in front of few crowds at Maine Road with the ZDS / Simod Cup being a viable trophy route.    Not really jealous of their new-found wealth and investment, just don't always like it when some rich foreign owners turn up and take a once completely ordinary club name winning next to nothing, into near overnight celebrities.    Club names like that need to be taken down a peg or too, I look to Chelsea as another prime example, so, once again, best of luck if your Cup meeting at Ashton Gate when the day comes.     Do many 'neutrals' a favour, and put those chumps out.  

 

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31 minutes ago, Southend Blue said:

just stopping by.     Take the opportunity to wish Robins every success in this upcoming contest.     Seriously, no impartiality, I really hope you can do it.    Remember, all things are possible in this industry.     Few neutrals won't allow you a sniff but now's your chance to stuff words down their throats and really make an impact on this years competition.     We have a tough game ourselves against Burnley, leading team in your league but we held them at home and in truth, don't fear a replay at Turf Moor.  

Maybe in a minority but old enough to recall Manchester City being a totally unsuccessful team playing in front of few crowds at Maine Road with the ZDS / Simod Cup being a viable trophy route.    Not really jealous of their new-found wealth and investment, just don't always like it when some rich foreign owners turn up and take a once completely ordinary club name winning next to nothing, into near overnight celebrities.    Club names like that need to be taken down a peg or too, I look to Chelsea as another prime example, so, once again, best of luck if your Cup meeting at Ashton Gate when the day comes.     Do many 'neutrals' a favour, and put those chumps out.  

 

Thanks… but “don’t fear a replay at Turf Moor”??? You could easily get done 5 nil up there..

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On 04/02/2023 at 12:46, Davefevs said:

Bring a pedant (in the absence of BS4 on Tour), the rules of the FA Cup changed 4/5 years back…the home side decides the ticket price these days…but there are rules around not charging away fans more, etc.  your point about having to offer their ST holders a discount is likely to be accurate and very relevant and a point I made on the “how much” thread.  We’d end up giving say £5 discounts to about 17k fans (our 13k+ and 4k City).

Where is @BS4 on Tour...? On tour? Or maybe just stuck in BS4?

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Interesting analysis on the BBC site of why Spurs do well against the Citizens. 
They counter attack  for one. 
They cut off the supply lines to Haaland.

The crowd are right behind them and against the opposition.

Simple really. We are a counter attacking team with dangerous forwards. Check .

We can defend stubbornly.Check.

So the rest is down to us, the supporters. Let’s not watch in awe and silence the Man City megastars. Make this game a very uncomfortable one for them , get under their skins. They are human beings before being footballers. 
I am not stupid, they are the reigning Champions but we have a chance here. We are not just here to make them look good. 
As we used to sing in the East End , Get into ‘em. 
 

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40 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Interesting analysis on the BBC site of why Spurs do well against the Citizens. 
They counter attack  for one. 
They cut off the supply lines to Haaland.

The crowd are right behind them and against the opposition.

Simple really. We are a counter attacking team with dangerous forwards. Check .

We can defend stubbornly.Check.

So the rest is down to us, the supporters. Let’s not watch in awe and silence the Man City megastars. Make this game a very uncomfortable one for them , get under their skins. They are human beings before being footballers. 
I am not stupid, they are the reigning Champions but we have a chance here. We are not just here to make them look good. 
As we used to sing in the East End , Get into ‘em. 
 

Of course, goes without saying 

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7 hours ago, Southend Blue said:

just stopping by.     Take the opportunity to wish Robins every success in this upcoming contest.     Seriously, no impartiality, I really hope you can do it.    Remember, all things are possible in this industry.     Few neutrals won't allow you a sniff but now's your chance to stuff words down their throats and really make an impact on this years competition.     We have a tough game ourselves against Burnley, leading team in your league but we held them at home and in truth, don't fear a replay at Turf Moor.  

Maybe in a minority but old enough to recall Manchester City being a totally unsuccessful team playing in front of few crowds at Maine Road with the ZDS / Simod Cup being a viable trophy route.    Not really jealous of their new-found wealth and investment, just don't always like it when some rich foreign owners turn up and take a once completely ordinary club name winning next to nothing, into near overnight celebrities.    Club names like that need to be taken down a peg or too, I look to Chelsea as another prime example, so, once again, best of luck if your Cup meeting at Ashton Gate when the day comes.     Do many 'neutrals' a favour, and put those chumps out.  

 

Thank you for your well wishes.   But to say Man City were an unsuccessful and ordinary club is pretty wide of the mark imho. They had crowds of 30k plus in the old division 2. Before the new ownership they had won the league twice, the league cup twice and the FA Cup 4 times. If that’s ‘ordinary’ then I’d dread to think what clubs like ours are! Not an attack on you at all - sorry if it comes across that way - but it bugs me when Man City and other clubs histories get re written purely because of new ownership. I would love our club to have their pre money history.  
Still - hope we stuff ‘em! 

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On 04/02/2023 at 13:05, sh1t_ref_again said:

but no concern in the earlier rounds for the smaller clubs with much smaller squads, just seems to me the FA likes to make the rules up for the big boys 

Lower teams played through the World Cup though. However more susceptible to the recent whether issues.

 

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7 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

Interesting analysis on the BBC site of why Spurs do well against the Citizens. 
They counter attack  for one. 
They cut off the supply lines to Haaland.

The crowd are right behind them and against the opposition.

Simple really. We are a counter attacking team with dangerous forwards. Check .

We can defend stubbornly.Check.

So the rest is down to us, the supporters. Let’s not watch in awe and silence the Man City megastars. Make this game a very uncomfortable one for them , get under their skins. They are human beings before being footballers. 
I am not stupid, they are the reigning Champions but we have a chance here. We are not just here to make them look good. 
As we used to sing in the East End , Get into ‘em. 
 

I fancy an in form, up for it Semenyo would have caused them some problems certainly, especially given the tactical issues that you outline.

MOTD2 highlighted something interesting too- Dier is a CM or defensive mid who goes into a back 3. He was stepping up and pressing a bit.

Naismith can perhaps form a similar role, helping us to switch between 4-1-4-1 and a back 3 where required.

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14 hours ago, Southend Blue said:

just stopping by.     Take the opportunity to wish Robins every success in this upcoming contest.     Seriously, no impartiality, I really hope you can do it.    Remember, all things are possible in this industry.     Few neutrals won't allow you a sniff but now's your chance to stuff words down their throats and really make an impact on this years competition.     We have a tough game ourselves against Burnley, leading team in your league but we held them at home and in truth, don't fear a replay at Turf Moor.  

Maybe in a minority but old enough to recall Manchester City being a totally unsuccessful team playing in front of few crowds at Maine Road with the ZDS / Simod Cup being a viable trophy route.    Not really jealous of their new-found wealth and investment, just don't always like it when some rich foreign owners turn up and take a once completely ordinary club name winning next to nothing, into near overnight celebrities.    Club names like that need to be taken down a peg or too, I look to Chelsea as another prime example, so, once again, best of luck if your Cup meeting at Ashton Gate when the day comes.     Do many 'neutrals' a favour, and put those chumps out.  

 

Do you consider Ipswich Town to be a "completely ordinary club"?

I don't, for what it's worth, but you've dug yourself a hole with the comments above.

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Are we allowed to talk about this game yet? 

I'm starting to believe that with a lot of luck and if we play to our absolute best, we may be able to pull something off. Man City don't seem to be the machine they usually are this season. 

Losing to Southampton in the other cup and drawing away against Forest the other day should give us some confidence that they are not as unbeatable as they usually are.

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12 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Are we allowed to talk about this game yet? 

I'm starting to believe that with a lot of luck and if we play to our absolute best, we may be able to pull something off. Man City don't seem to be the machine they usually are this season. 

Losing to Southampton in the other cup and drawing away against Forest the other day should give us some confidence that they are not as unbeatable as they usually are.

Almost frightened to talk about it to be honest.. Our new boys will be cup tied, Naismith and Atkinson both unavailable and only a yellow card against Hull from the unthinkable… we’ve also burned our penalty allowance for the next few years.. All things considered… We’ll win 1-0 ??

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3 minutes ago, FNQ said:

Almost frightened to talk about it to be honest.. Our new boys will be cup tied, Naismith and Atkinson both unavailable and only a yellow card against Hull from the unthinkable… we’ve also burned our penalty allowance for the next few years.. All things considered… We’ll win 1-0 ??

COYR’s

A yellow card for Scott and / or Williams won’t affect the Man City game, only subsequent league games.

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4 hours ago, Davefevs said:

A yellow card for Scott and / or Williams won’t affect the Man City game, only subsequent league games.

Had to look that up the other day. Red cards count in all competitions, whichever one it was given,  but the totting up only in the individual comps. Some logic in it I guess.

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7 hours ago, FNQ said:

Almost frightened to talk about it to be honest.. Our new boys will be cup tied, Naismith and Atkinson both unavailable and only a yellow card against Hull from the unthinkable… we’ve also burned our penalty allowance for the next few years.. All things considered… We’ll win 1-0 ??

COYR’s

Mehmeti and Cornick cup tied too?

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7 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Are we allowed to talk about this game yet? 

I'm starting to believe that with a lot of luck and if we play to our absolute best, we may be able to pull something off. Man City don't seem to be the machine they usually are this season. 

Losing to Southampton in the other cup and drawing away against Forest the other day should give us some confidence that they are not as unbeatable as they usually are.

Not impossible but we'll need to play at our best and need a lot of luck. We'll only have about 20% possession depends what we can do with it.

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3 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

Had to look that up the other day. Red cards count in all competitions, whichever one it was given,  but the totting up only in the individual comps. Some logic in it I guess.

It's probably in part to stop them taking a yellow to miss an unimportant cup game and avoid missing a league game

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4 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

Had to look that up the other day. Red cards count in all competitions, whichever one it was given,  but the totting up only in the individual comps. Some logic in it I guess.

I’ve only mentioned it once, twice….20 times since the draw was made! ???

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9 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Are we allowed to talk about this game yet? 

I'm starting to believe that with a lot of luck and if we play to our absolute best, we may be able to pull something off. Man City don't seem to be the machine they usually are this season. 

Losing to Southampton in the other cup and drawing away against Forest the other day should give us some confidence that they are not as unbeatable as they usually are.

Poor aren't they? Only second in the Prem eh?

Maybe we could knock them out if we play our Under 18's!

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