Silvio Dante Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 With currently no apparent movement on the Martin/Klose front and them both not being in the first team picture, my expectation is that come about 5pm tomorrow we’ll announce that we’ve come to terms for the release of both. Keeping them post Feb 1st means they can’t move elsewhere even if we subsequently come to settlement terms, and potentially an early release could be done without the commitment of honouring all wages (on agreement). I’d strongly imagine this will happen tomorrow. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Sounds fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I can see that working for Martin although would be surprised if he doesn’t move to League One by tomorrow. I’m not sure what the incentive is for Klose as by all accounts he is retiring at the end of the season so he does not need a contract settlement. He may wish to see out the season and collect wages for a few more months unless he wants to just get back to his family earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 That could work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said: With currently no apparent movement on the Martin/Klose front and them both not being in the first team picture, my expectation is that come about 5pm tomorrow we’ll announce that we’ve come to terms for the release of both. Keeping them post Feb 1st means they can’t move elsewhere even if we subsequently come to settlement terms, and potentially an early release could be done without the commitment of honouring all wages (on agreement). I’d strongly imagine this will happen tomorrow. But surely we would need to pay up their contract or at least agree a financial settlement with them. Assuming that Kalas is on the contract claimed on here why would he be remotely interested in that? He can turn up to training keep his nose clean and get paid full whack until the summer. No matter what his future plans are he is not going to get a contract elsewhere on similar terms, so, sit tight take the money and decide on your future in the summer. Martin could be a similar scenario but, again, he won’t get what he is on here elsewhere, those days are done, at least for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, ScottishRed said: But surely we would need to pay up their contract or at least agree a financial settlement with them. Assuming that Kalas is on the contract claimed on here why would he be remotely interested in that? He can turn up to training keep his nose clean and get paid full whack until the summer. No matter what his future plans are he is not going to get a contract elsewhere on similar terms, so, sit tight take the money and decide on your future in the summer. Martin could be a similar scenario but, again, he won’t get what he is on here elsewhere, those days are done, at least for a while. Assume this TK is Klose not Kalas. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, ScottishRed said: But surely we would need to pay up their contract or at least agree a financial settlement with them. Assuming that Kalas is on the contract claimed on here why would he be remotely interested in that? He can turn up to training keep his nose clean and get paid full whack until the summer. No matter what his future plans are he is not going to get a contract elsewhere on similar terms, so, sit tight take the money and decide on your future in the summer. Martin could be a similar scenario but, again, he won’t get what he is on here elsewhere, those days are done, at least for a while. Presume he meant Klose, not Kalas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Did I imagine it, or has Klose expressed an interest in going into coaching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 The money they’ve offered Klose, he will not except. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 30, 2023 Author Share Posted January 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Assume this TK is Klose not Kalas. 9 minutes ago, James54De said: Presume he meant Klose, not Kalas. Correct - I think I said Klose in the OP! I think Martin and Klose would negotiate a payoff for different reasons - CM will still be looking for a club and it’s better to get in now than wait for the bunfight in the summer. In fact, I’d be willing to bet he has some clubs interested and it’s just squaring the difference between our wages and what he’d get paid elsewhere. Either way, a partial settlement works better for us financially than keeping on books to 30th June. For Klose, he’s got a young family in Switzerland. He’s away from them, next club won’t be in the UK and he has expense of being over here/travel back (granted not as significant for a footballers wages but still a consideration). Why be away from your baby son for another six months when you can take a settlement of say 50% and find a club near your base? Both moves just make sense. (FWIW with Kalas I wouldn’t be doing similar. He’s in the first team fold, younger and I think there is a bit of feeling out here whether both parties want to remain engaged next year) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Bcfcshags said: The money they’ve offered Klose, he will not except. Offered to leave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Bcfcshags said: The money they’ve offered Klose, he will not except. Predictive text is a swine but I don't suppose Klose will accept the money offered either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: Did I imagine it, or has Klose expressed an interest in going into coaching? He talked last summer about becoming a Director of Football. He’s clearly a smart bloke & possibly sees this as his longer term career back home or maybe in Germany. There was a rumour a week or so ago that he was doing some coaching of one of the younger groups, absolutely no idea of the truth of that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I see that Charlton have sold Jayden Stockley to Fleetwood. Think there is a chance Chris Martin may end up signing for Dean Holden at Charlton. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 44 minutes ago, GrahamC said: He talked last summer about becoming a Director of Football. He’s clearly a smart bloke & possibly sees this as his longer term career back home or maybe in Germany. There was a rumour a week or so ago that he was doing some coaching of one of the younger groups, absolutely no idea of the truth of that. He definitely is coaching the youngsters, he’s up at HPC at least one night a week with the youth development phase sides at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: I see that Charlton have sold Jayden Stockley to Fleetwood. Think there is a chance Chris Martin may end up signing for Dean Holden at Charlton. Said that to Dave Fevs earlier, every chance, I should think. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: I see that Charlton have sold Jayden Stockley to Fleetwood. Think there is a chance Chris Martin may end up signing for Dean Holden at Charlton. 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Said that to Dave Fevs earlier, every chance, I should think. That thought immediately popped into my head when I heard Stockley had gone too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: I see that Charlton have sold Jayden Stockley to Fleetwood. Think there is a chance Chris Martin may end up signing for Dean Holden at Charlton. Fleetwood have also bought Mariott from Peterborough which makes a new interesting forward pair for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddarwedlocker Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Made me laugh this. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Klose has left the club tonight, he’s going back to Switzerland to coach and will most likely retire. Sad news, he’s an absolute diamond of a bloke from what I can make out. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 54 minutes ago, Jacki said: Klose has left the club tonight, he’s going back to Switzerland to coach and will most likely retire. Sad news, he’s an absolute diamond of a bloke from what I can make out. Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Martin gone too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just announced! Both gone, and all the best to them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redpole Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/martin-and-klose-leave-city/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) https://twitter.com/BristolCity/status/1620550192658259971?s=20&t=4yyyPgV2E3TQXQpZLGLjpQ Edited January 31, 2023 by exAtyeoMax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Bit sad about that but it's understandable. All the best gents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 Do I get to class as ITK now? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitInMyPocket Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Did well for us but it's time for change. Wish them the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Chris Martin gave his all for City. I will remember him fondly. The first home Severnside derby after covid was a special game and his performance that day won't be forgotten. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Chris Martin and Timm Klose this evening left Bristol City by mutual agreement. Chris joined City in September 2020 and made 95 appearances, scoring 17 goals, including three against Severnside derby rivals Cardiff City, as well as providing 11 assists. Timm arrived in BS3 in January 2022 and has made 30 appearances and scored one goal. Manager Nigel Pearson said: “Chris and Tim have both come in today and said goodbye. On behalf of everyone at Bristol City I’d like to wish them both well for the future and thank them for their service to the club.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 All the best Gents. Thanks for your efforts. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Good luck chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Bouncearoundtheground said: Chris Martin gave his all for City. I will remember him fondly. The first home Severnside derby after covid was a special game and his performance that day won't be forgotten. Me too. Got a lot of stick on here but I thought he was a good, intelligent, and reliable player overall for us. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loderingo Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Both did well last season but the right time to move on. Best of luck to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 A lot of senior players gone this window, with fewer incomings to what was already a small squad. Pearson must have a lot of belief in the academy players who have been in and around the squad recently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Martin did well overall. Def the right time to move him on but good luck to them both. Edited January 31, 2023 by Super 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Chris Martin and Timm Klose have left the club by mutual agreement. The club would like to thank them for their service and wish them all the best for the future. Edited January 31, 2023 by chucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I would have kept Klose around, we're very light at centre-half now with no scope for incomings. Atkinson, Vyner, just-back Kalas and Naismith who we need in midfield. Brian, what you got in the academy my friend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbury Red Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Percy Pig said: All the best to both, but especially Chris Martin. Instrumental in our survival last season and WSM was a joy second half of last year. He never once gave less than 100% for the cause and I for one am grateful for his service. Think this opens up a return to Derby, which would be a great move for him if it materialises. Plus those goals against Cardiff. Cult hero just for them! And don’t forget ……. He scored our last PENALTY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Martin turned out to be a good signing, Klose was less involved but still useful, so...credit to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 So Long Chris and Tim.............and thanks for all the Fish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonRobin21 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I honestly wouldn’t rule out Martin signing for the blue few. He and his family are very settled in the area. He would certainly do a job in League 1, where his attributes would be best suited. Wish him well regardless of where he ends up. He’s a very nice guy, who did well for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Martin did a pretty decent job for us for most of his stay. I have to say, his last game for us, can’t remember who against, was one of those moments when a lot of us thought that’s it, barring injury to others that’s the last time he’d play for us. Klose was an odd one, did well enough to warrant an extra year but that year for whatever reason just didn’t work out. Best of luck in the future to both players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, ralphindevon said: Martin did a pretty decent job for us for most of his stay. I have to say, his last game for us, can’t remember who against, was one of those moments when a lot of us thought that’s it, barring injury to others that’s the last time he’d play for us. Klose was an odd one, did well enough to warrant an extra year but that year for whatever reason just didn’t work out. Best of luck in the future to both players. Yes I do agree, a younger Martin would of been nice. And Klose just seemed to loos his game. Best of the luck to both and thanks for your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Well done NP. That’s nearly all the deadwood gone now. JD and likely Kalas out in the summer and that’s some huge savings. Should have a highly competitive squad next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, TomF said: In hindsight shouldn’t have given klose a deal in summer but didn’t quite expect him not to feature after such strong showing last season. Didn't he have a family issue in Switzerland? I can remember NP saying he had gone back to deal with it a while ago, maybe that situation got worse and prevented him from being here if so then hopefully all is well for TK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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exAtyeoMax Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 https://twitter.com/BBCKentSport/status/1620555924695048193?s=20&t=4yyyPgV2E3TQXQpZLGLjpQ gone to Gillingham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingleRed Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 CM gone to Gillingham according to Bristol Live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 CM has signed for Gillingham, bit surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Seemed a bit of a surprise move. They've now deleted the tweet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I think that shows his level of drop off between Spring 2022 and Autumn 2022. Up until then he was a very worthy Champ level player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 As pointed out on the HC thread, it seems as if BBC Kent, the source of the Gills link, have held their hands up… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Edit: Seems to have stemmed from this: The guy tweeting is a Cheltenham fan on a windup, and BBC Kent fell for it Edited January 31, 2023 by Northern Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: I think that shows his level of drop off between Spring 2022 and Autumn 2022. Up until then he was a very worthy Champ level player His legs have gone now. League 2 is about his level now. Will prob help keep them up Edited January 31, 2023 by Super Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Thank you to both for their efforts and best of luck too. Klose last sesson looked a good steadying influence shame it didn't happen for him thus season- a year too far maybe, same for Martin albeit with some reasonable displays interspersed. Martin last season, intelligence, took a bit of physical load and chipped in with some goals and assists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Both played important parts last season, so good luck to them in their next journeys. Stories that Klose has been excellent with the u21s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Both really were instrumental in our improvement in the second half of last season with WSM banging in the goals up front and Klose proving a more than adequate and rather classy replacement for Kalas at the back. The benefit of their experience shone through and we should definitely be thankful for their efforts. However there often is a tipping point for professional footballers in their mid 30s when their pace goes a little and the speed of thought no longer quite makes up for that. Plus I do wonder if Klose was missing the family more than previously. Last time I saw him a couple of weeks ago in Clifton Down Shopping Centre he was very engrossed in a chat (in German) on his phone, presumably calling home. And it would seem that’s where he is now heading. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Hang on. So Martin's not gone to Gillingham? But has left us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: Both played important parts last season, so good luck to them in their next journeys. Stories that Klose has been excellent with the u21s. Klose has been coaching the kids for a while now as well and they absolutely love him. He's an excellent coach, they loved his approach to sessions and the experiences he shared about his career. They found him hilarious to boot. From what I hear he's a great person to have around. The boys all signed a card for him last night when he said his goodbyes. I don't pretend to know the guy personally but everything I've heard is positive and I hope he's a huge success in his coaching career back in Switzerland. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Hang on. So Martin's not gone to Gillingham? But has left us? He's left us but not gone to Gillingham. It was a windup tweeted by a Cheltenham fan in response to Gillingham's twitter admin teasing a last minute signing (not him), and BBC Kent picked it up and ran with it instead of doing any check on the legitimacy of it. Edited February 1, 2023 by Northern Red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Unsurprisingly, there are plenty of Derby fans wanting Martin to go back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Unsurprisingly, there are plenty of Derby fans wanting Martin to go back there. I'd say they're doing ok without him tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Denbury Red said: And don’t forget ……. He scored our last PENALTY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 11 hours ago, Denbury Red said: And don’t forget ……. He scored our last PENALTY!!!! Ha ha! Ancient history! We’ve had three prime ministers and two monarchs in that time. And half the starting line up that day (well, 5 out of the 11) are no longer with the club now! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Jacki said: Klose has been coaching the kids for a while now as well and they absolutely love him. He's an excellent coach, they loved his approach to sessions and the experiences he shared about his career. They found him hilarious to boot. From what I hear he's a great person to have around. The boys all signed a card for him last night when he said his goodbyes. I don't pretend to know the guy personally but everything I've heard is positive and I hope he's a huge success in his coaching career back in Switzerland. Sounds like a Scotty Murray type character, shame he's not staying to coach here Edited February 1, 2023 by Red Cloud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 30 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Unsurprisingly, there are plenty of Derby fans wanting Martin to go back there. Fans who do not realise that time waits for no man and none of us are the guys we were once. Forwards in their 30s in particular can either ride the decline in pace and develop more canny ways of operating, or show a sharp decline in effectiveness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said: Fans who do not realise that time waits for no man and none of us are the guys we were once. Forwards in their 30s in particular can either ride the decline in pace and develop more canny ways of operating, or show a sharp decline in effectiveness. Yep. Also seen a few Sunderland fans wondering whether he'd be an option for them, then I remembered that his only goal this season was against them in the first home game and they probably haven't taken much notice of what he's done (or not, more like) since then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I thought our last penalty was scored by bob taylor? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Fans who do not realise that time waits for no man and none of us are the guys we were once. Forwards in their 30s in particular can either ride the decline in pace and develop more canny ways of operating, or show a sharp decline in effectiveness. That’s true but even though I speak as a fan of Martin, he never had any to start with. Never forget the goal in the 5-0 v Hull, when he ran from almost the halfway line, the defender “chasing” him must have had the speed of a traction engine. Brilliant holding the ball up & a decent finisher though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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