Alex Scott - Treasure his outstanding talent

[clunes]

He’s Bellingham’s replacement at Dortmund (if they can afford him)

Edited February 5, 2023 by clunes

[Steve Watts]

6 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

@Steve Watts this sounds familiar

I knew I'd heard it somewhere before!

[Wanderingred]

Am I really reading comparisons with the likes of Graelish and Iniesta and him spearheading an 2023-24 promotion push? Easy guys.

Edited February 5, 2023 by Wanderingred

[Ian M]

If he keeps up the current form, could an U21 call up happen before the season is out?

[PHILINFRANCE]

6 hours ago, Vidal said:

Doubt it. Elliott was having a much bigger impact in the Championship then Scott is….did it at a younger age too.

 

5 hours ago, Vidal said:

It is very true. He was carrying a Blackburn side when he was 17. One is currently playing regularly for Bristol city the other for Liverpool. Huge difference.

If you are referring to Harvey Elliot, he only played a handful of Championship games, and they were all for Fulham.

[arrytheb]

May have missed this in the comments but to get out of the position he was in was good, but there's a lot of others professionals who could do that at our standard. But to do that and then play that pass.... my god that was special. 

 

He's a very very special talent.

[REDOXO]

1 hour ago, Ian M said:

If he keeps up the current form, could an U21 call up happen before the season is out?

Could be There is a place in there now Massengo has gone back to France

[Oh Louie louie]

Best ive seen in years,if he's not in the pfa team this season, be a travesty of justice

Edited February 5, 2023 by Oh Louie louie
Misspelled

[Port Said Red]

10 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said:

Is he better than Gerry Gow at the moment than no so answers your the second part as well 

Apart from the obvious statement about how the game has changed in 50 years, I would say they have had a similar effect in different ways. I am a few years younger than @slartibartfast or a few of the others, so their memories may be better than mine, but as I remember him, Gow was a midfield general even at 17 but although he started as the youngster in an aging side it was very quickly a young side.

Although he was more than the tough tackler from legend, I don't think of him as having the all round game that Scott has already, the fact that it's already difficult to find a weakness in his game is incredible. I would still like him to have more opportunities at dead ball situations, in the Premier League in particular, they are often the deciding factor in a game, take Ward-Prowse for example, but he really has everything else.

You have compared him to Harvey Elliott, who for some reason you seem to have seen a lot of, but I will be interested in what the Norwich fans have to say after next week, because I think Madison is the best comparison and they saw him at the same age. 

You are right that we are a little blinded by the fact that he is in our team, but having spent nearly 55 years drooling over the talent in other teams, it's great to see one we have developed ourselves.

I think you have a higher opinion of him than @Vidal, but then judging by his extensive shopping list, he doesn't appear to rate many of our current squad, or have faith in the Academy to produce further talent.

It's nice to have some balance though..

[cidered abroad]

It's almost impossible to compare players who were/are playing for us fifty years apart.

Gow may have been a harder tackler and actually scored more goals.

Alex certainly has more pace.

To compare them to get which is the better one is unfair on both. Those of us who saw Gow's whole career at City over ten years will more easily remember him as he was toward the end of his City career. However we've only had under two seasons to judge and compare Scott.

A ten year spell with City will put him up at the top table with the Bristol City all time greats, Wedlock, Atyeo and Gow.

[Port Said Red]

14 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

It's almost impossible to compare players who were/are playing for us fifty years apart.

Gow may have been a harder tackler and actually scored more goals.

Alex certainly has more pace.

To compare them to get which is the better one is unfair on both. Those of us who saw Gow's whole career at City over ten years will more easily remember him as he was toward the end of his City career. However we've only had under two seasons to judge and compare Scott.

A ten year spell with City will put him up at the top table with the Bristol City all time greats, Wedlock, Atyeo and Gow.

I mentioned Gerry Sharpe in a previous thread @cidered abroad, and although he was before my time I think you have said you saw Eisentrager (another Alex ) would you say they were better comparisons?

[Bodiesaffer]

He’s not going anywhere unless the buying club meets are valuation.   Although a long shot that anyone wouldn’t meet the asking price.  I like him to give us one more season,  however that’s wishful thinking.  25mil is too cheap.

[Vidal]

5 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

 

If you are referring to Harvey Elliot, he only played a handful of Championship games, and they were all for Fulham.

You are completely wrong.

[ExiledAjax]

NTT20 continuing to bang the drum.

Something noticeable if you pause it just as he plays the pass. 4 of Preston's players are completely focused on him. That pass takes 40% of their outfield players out of the game.

 

Edited February 5, 2023 by ExiledAjax

[mozo]

8 hours ago, clunes said:

He’s Bellingham’s replacement at Dortmund (if they can afford him)

 

7 hours ago, Ian M said:

If he keeps up the current form, could an U21 call up happen before the season is out?

Both these things should happen.

[Mad Cyril]

2 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said:

Best ive seen in years,if he's not in the pfa team this season, be a travesty of justice

Have PFA got £25m though? If not they can't have him.

[MarcusX]

13 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

I think the thing here is twofold -

Firstly, Alex genuinely comes across as a good kid and has given his all week on week. Look at how (similar to Bellingham in the World Cup post penalty) how he was straight to Atkinson post mistake Vs Swansea for example. He’s a good kid, works hard, and deserves success.

Secondly, as a fanbase - whether he’s from Guernsey or not, he’s one of our own. Debut for us, early years with us. He’ll always be “ours”. Fans have an affection for players, and their future success reflects both well on the club but the fans feel pride. Think of how much the gas go on about Lambert. Alex is one of us, and as fans every time he plays for England (as will happen) we will all feel pride.
 

There’s a mural of Bellingham at Brum. They’re insanely proud of him. Wanting the best for Alex is the same thing. 

I used to think the way Birmingham acted was a bit embarrassing, I’m not suggesting we retire Scott’s number but I certainly get it now. You just don’t get this type of player very often at a club like ours 

[Super]

9 hours ago, clunes said:

He’s Bellingham’s replacement at Dortmund (if they can afford him)

Why would they not be able to afford him?

[mozo]

4 minutes ago, Super said:

Why would they not be able to afford him?

I'm guessing it was a joke?

I'd be shocked if Dortmund scouts aren't looking at him. He'd be available for about a 3rd of the Bellingham money and would be able to hit the ground running in the Bundesliga.

Totally makes sense for Scott too because he'd have a good chance of regular games at a team likely to be in the Champions League. 

Dortmund are back in the title race this season n all.

[P'head Red]

Great video here on Twitter of his involvement yesterday..

https://twitter.com/AnalysisBCFC/status/1621979446751252480?t=yncs9TZhCj_VWJZMTTlm_g&s=19

[Port Said Red]

Does anyone have that video montage from the WBA game? The link to it on the other thread is dead.

[Hazelboy]

7 hours ago, Ian M said:

If he keeps up the current form, could an U21 call up happen before the season is out?

I find it odd he’s not in there already, Mcatee, Doyle & Morton all in the squad ahead of him last time. 
Clearly streets ahead of all 3 of them (although I was impressed by Morton last week) guess it’s just because he’s not in a ‘big 6’ club.

[One Team]

As a few have said we need to enjoy Alex whilst we can. If he keeps this up he will be leaving for a significant fee in the summer. 

Unless we get promoted and end up in Europe after winning the FA Cup! 

[slartibartfast]

The difference between AS and Gerry Gow (and Gerry Sharp, as someone mentioned him) is that Alex, when introduced to first team football, hit the ground running. I'm old enough to remember Gow's first season , (and come to that early seasons Sharp)...... basically they weren't very good, AND the crowd didn't like them much..........."Gow's not a patch on Kellard" . It took a good four or five months for Gow to settle and play football , instead of just "kicking " people! Even Sharpey didn't really "do it" until about two seasons before his tragic ,premature retirement .

[Port Said Red]

14 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

The difference between AS and Gerry Gow (and Gerry Sharp, as someone mentioned him) is that Alex, when introduced to first team football, hit the ground running. I'm old enough to remember Gow's first season , (and come to that early seasons Sharp)...... basically they weren't very good, AND the crowd didn't like them much..........."Gow's not a patch on Kellard" . It took a good four or five months for Gow to settle and play football , instead of just "kicking " people! Even Sharpey didn't really "do it" until about two seasons before his tragic ,premature retirement .

In Gow's defence he was only 17 on debut, and there were some right old tough men in those days.

I remember my old man being nearly in tears when he told me Gerry Sharpe was finished.

Edited February 5, 2023 by Port Said Red

[cidered abroad]

2 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

I mentioned Gerry Sharpe in a previous thread @cidered abroad, and although he was before my time I think you have said you saw Eisentrager (another Alex ) would you say they were better comparisons?

Eisentrager was a forward. Played winger and inside forward. Could jump very high for a short person. A solid player but not in the same league as Scott.

Gerry Sharpe was in the same build as Scott. Tricky with ball and in that department similar to Scott..

But with no disrespect to either Alec and Gerry, neither of them as good as Scott except maybe for the number of goals scored.

Both are regarded by me as among the City players to remember but as Scott may not be here much longer he'll be forgotten in 30 years.

[SuperRed]

1 hour ago, P'head Red said:

Great video here on Twitter of his involvement yesterday..

https://twitter.com/AnalysisBCFC/status/1621979446751252480?t=yncs9TZhCj_VWJZMTTlm_g&s=19

Full of confidence and just gliding past people, pleasure to watch. 

[spudski]

We can all see the obvious technical skill,  awareness, timing, spacial awareness, weight of pass, movement etc...but there is one thing that really sticks out for me...and that's how he shapes his body to receive and move, not only in possession but out of it as well. He uses it to create space for himself, which in turn creates extra time. He also uses so well to protect the ball...in doing so he either creates space for himself or draws a foul. 

The move he did yesterday in the lead up to the perfectly weighted ball down the channel to Wells...note how after beating the defender, he cuts inside across the defender,  blocking any tackle, and if there is one, it would lead to a foul.

He does this time and time again. It's a very special quality.

I'd love to know whether he was doing this whilst at Guernsey or whether it's something he's picked up whilst being coached in the U23s. 

Stunning player.

[PHILINFRANCE]

4 hours ago, Vidal said:

You are completely wrong.

Wrong in that you weren’t referring to HE, or in respect of his appearances in The Championship?

[Davefevs]

22 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

Wrong in that you weren’t referring to HE, or in respect of his appearances in The Championship?

He had a loan at Blackburn Phil.

[bcfc01]

22 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

He had a loan at Blackburn Phil.

40 odd appearances and 7 goals.

[Leveller]

12 hours ago, Wanderingred said:

Am I really reading comparisons with the likes of Graelish and Iniesta and him spearheading an 2023-24 promotion push? Easy guys.

It’s difficult to compare his potential with Grealish, however, he is ahead of him in experience at the same age; at Scott’s age, Grealish was on loan in League One and only just about to return to Villa to make his debut.

[Mike Stone]

1 hour ago, spudski said:

We can all see the obvious technical skill,  awareness, timing, spacial awareness, weight of pass, movement etc...but there is one thing that really sticks out for me...and that's how he shapes his body to receive and move, not only in possession but out of it as well. He uses it to create space for himself, which in turn creates extra time. He also uses so well to protect the ball...in doing so he either creates space for himself or draws a foul. 

The move he did yesterday in the lead up to the perfectly weighted ball down the channel to Wells...note how after beating the defender, he cuts inside across the defender,  blocking any tackle, and if there is one, it would lead to a foul.

He does this time and time again. It's a very special quality.

I'd love to know whether he was doing this whilst at Guernsey or whether it's something he's picked up whilst being coached in the U23s. 

Stunning player.

Great post

[CityCiderEd]

2 hours ago, spudski said:

We can all see the obvious technical skill,  awareness, timing, spacial awareness, weight of pass, movement etc...but there is one thing that really sticks out for me...and that's how he shapes his body to receive and move, not only in possession but out of it as well. He uses it to create space for himself, which in turn creates extra time. He also uses so well to protect the ball...in doing so he either creates space for himself or draws a foul. 

The move he did yesterday in the lead up to the perfectly weighted ball down the channel to Wells...note how after beating the defender, he cuts inside across the defender,  blocking any tackle, and if there is one, it would lead to a foul.

He does this time and time again. It's a very special quality.

I'd love to know whether he was doing this whilst at Guernsey or whether it's something he's picked up whilst being coached in the U23s. 

Stunning player.

Absolutely spot on. The difference between a good player and an exceptional one . He has the chance to be

[Sitrom]

1 hour ago, CityCiderEd said:

Absolutely spot on. The difference between a good player and an exceptional one . He has the chance to be

To be what?????  I've been sat here for an hour for you to finish this sentence.  I can't take it anymore!!!

Edited February 5, 2023 by Sitrom
Grammer

[mozo]

17 minutes ago, Sitrom said:

To be what?????  I've been sat here for an hour for you to finish this sentence.  I can't take it anymore!!!

The king of Burundi?

Miss World?

The first footballer in space?

Edited February 5, 2023 by mozo

[The Humble Realist]

He is incredible for his age but we need to keep calm and keep a perspective. 

It was only preston away last season that everyone was raving about massengos performance  

He is certainly in superb form at the moment and it's a joy to see him, bell and many others in the team thriving. 

 

[Davefevs]

10 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said:

He is incredible for his age but we need to keep calm and keep a perspective. 

It was only preston away last season that everyone was raving about massengos performance alongside the brilliant Scott

He is certainly in superb form at the moment and it's a joy to see him, bell and many others in the team thriving. 

 

[bcfc01]

2 hours ago, CityCiderEd said:

Absolutely spot on. The difference between a good player and an exceptional one . He has the chance to be

Never finish a sentence on preposition.

It leaves people in a state of

 

 

 

suspense.

Edited February 5, 2023 by bcfc01

[Redtucks]

21 hours ago, Leveller said:

It is. I remember her telling me.

But did she tell you about his........????

 

Edited February 5, 2023 by Redtucks

[Numero Uno]

3 hours ago, The Humble Realist said:

He is incredible for his age but we need to keep calm and keep a perspective. 

It was only preston away last season that everyone was raving about massengos performance  

He is certainly in superb form at the moment and it's a joy to see him, bell and many others in the team thriving. 

 

There's a massive difference tbh. Massengo gave us one great performance in every 20 games with plenty of very ordinary ones in the other 19, Scott averages you one great one, three good ones and one ordinary one every five, also has an U19 Euro's final win where he started under his belt and will end up in the U21's before the season is out. Massengo hasn't got what Scott did yesterday in his locker, he's not that player.

[The Humble Realist]

1 hour ago, Numero Uno said:

There's a massive difference tbh. Massengo gave us one great performance in every 20 games with plenty of very ordinary ones in the other 19, Scott averages you one great one, three good ones and one ordinary one every five, also has an U19 Euro's final win where he started under his belt and will end up in the U21's before the season is out. Massengo hasn't got what Scott did yesterday in his locker, he's not that player.

There are threads on how amazing massengo is/was going to be not a million miles off what people are saying about Scott.

I'm not criticising him,  he is superb! I'm just saying lets keep our praise in check too. Young players go through phases. 

The great thing for scott is every 2 or 3 months his good performances seem to be more common. He wasnt playing like this in October/November when the team was struggling,  hopefully hes growing in confidence and this  is helping the rest of the team too.

Hes an incredibly talented young player , but we still need to be patient with him and he needs to keep doing what he is doing. Keeping his head down, working hard etc etc 

[McNasty Filth]

On 04/02/2023 at 20:41, mozo said:

Who should he be compared to?

Gazza, you heard it here first!!!

[Dolman_Stand]

Does anyone know if any of the bookies are taking bets on him for the Euro 2024 squad?

[Kodjias Wrist]

36 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said:

There are threads on how amazing massengo is/was going to be not a million miles off what people are saying about Scott.

I'm not criticising him,  he is superb! I'm just saying lets keep our praise in check too. Young players go through phases. 

The great thing for scott is every 2 or 3 months his good performances seem to be more common. He wasnt playing like this in October/November when the team was struggling,  hopefully hes growing in confidence and this  is helping the rest of the team too.

Hes an incredibly talented young player , but we still need to be patient with him and he needs to keep doing what he is doing. Keeping his head down, working hard etc etc 

Yes I think we all want our players (especially young and expensive ones!) to do well so there is an element of us seeing through rose tinted glasses.

As @Numero Unosaid there is a huge difference between the two.

Scotts development was accelerated because we didn't have enough options with the injury crisis and a pretty poor side in general, whereas Han suffered from an inflated squad under a manager who switched players frequently in and out of the team.

The obvious one for us fans would be that he contributes more scores and assists far more than Han. I can't fault Hans energy at times and for every below par performance, there was a very good one too. I am not sure whether his hair style like Chong at Birmingham made him stand out, but he seemed to get alot of positive reviews from oppostion fans compared to most of our team!

Both had potential but Scott is more consistent and is that level or two above him ability wise IMO.

[mozo]

42 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said:

There are threads on how amazing massengo is/was going to be not a million miles off what people are saying about Scott.

I'm not criticising him,  he is superb! I'm just saying lets keep our praise in check too. Young players go through phases. 

The great thing for scott is every 2 or 3 months his good performances seem to be more common. He wasnt playing like this in October/November when the team was struggling,  hopefully hes growing in confidence and this  is helping the rest of the team too.

Hes an incredibly talented young player , but we still need to be patient with him and he needs to keep doing what he is doing. Keeping his head down, working hard etc etc 

To be fair, the club itself is advertising the Man City game with Scott as the poster boy, which just adds to the hype.

 

 

[PHILINFRANCE]

11 hours ago, Davefevs said:

He had a loan at Blackburn Phil.

Of Course, I remember now that you remind me.

My recollection was of this precocious 15 year old signing for Liverpool from Fulham and having broken records for being the youngest to have played for various teams in various competitions - I also remember his crass post about Tottenham's (now) leading scorer, Harry Kane, but that is another (best forgotten) subject.

My apologies to @Vidal - assuming Alex Scott does leave in the Summer (I hope not, and still believe there is an outside chance he might stay on for just one more season), it will be interesting to see how the two compare in a season or two.

[Major Isewater]

Apart from all the justified praise being heaped on Scott by a multitude of heapers I would just like to add one other thing that seems absent and that is his ability to get continually clattered and still get up and play his normal game. He really appears to be the epitome of a top player. I would so love the guy to stay for next season and give us a chance of promotion. 
I’d tell him he could become a legend in Bristol and choose whichever club he wanted as a Prem player. Stuff the short term transfer money let’s get to the land of milk and honey , no not Wales, before they close the revenue streams. 
 

[The Bard]

21 hours ago, Hazelboy said:

I find it odd he’s not in there already, Mcatee, Doyle & Morton all in the squad ahead of him last time. 
Clearly streets ahead of all 3 of them (although I was impressed by Morton last week) guess it’s just because he’s not in a ‘big 6’ club.

There's an under 20 world cup in May.

 

That's more useful in his development than some under 21 games.

[grifty]

He's got a bit of edge about him too. When Nahki got Cunningham'd, Scott was straight in to try and drag Wells away, but not before he'd pushed two of the Preston players behind the refs back.

[mozo]

32 minutes ago, The Bard said:

There's an under 20 world cup in May.

 

That's more useful in his development than some under 21 games.

Didn't he win the U19 World Cup with England?

A winners medal at both ages would be amazing.

Edit: I think it's the U21 Euros in June?

 

Edited February 6, 2023 by mozo

[The Bard]

29 minutes ago, mozo said:

Didn't he win the U19 World Cup with England?

A winners medal at both ages would be amazing.

Edit: I think it's the U21 Euros in June?

 

Under 19s euros last year. Probably want to keep the same team together. 

[mozo]

1 hour ago, The Bard said:

Under 19s euros last year. Probably want to keep the same team together. 

Makes sense. As I say, a winners medal at U19 and U20 would be amazing for those lads.

Hopefully he could win something at U21s level as well, ahead of winning the 2026 world cup alongside Bellingham in England's midfield.

[CityCiderEd]

On 05/02/2023 at 17:44, Sitrom said:

To be what?????  I've been sat here for an hour for you to finish this sentence.  I can't take it anymore!!!

 Missus called me as I was typing and didn't realise I'd hit reply as I closed the laptop............"one of the best players ever to have played at AG" is the missing bit

[Nathandao]

On 05/02/2023 at 22:05, Dolman_Stand said:

Does anyone know if any of the bookies are taking bets on him for the Euro 2024 squad?

Tried to get odds for him to play at the 2026 World Cup but requestabet turned it down. Don’t know about Euros.

[Fordy62]

worth watching Kal Naismith’s comments on Alex Scott. It’s only a minute long but he sees what we see. 

[And Its Smith]

2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

worth watching Kal Naismith’s comments on Alex Scott. It’s only a minute long but he sees what we see. 

Gerrard is a decent comparison, better than Grealish anyway.  Fair to say Scott is on everyone’s radar now. Apart from the city fan on here last week who said he ‘isn’t that good’!

[Fordy62]

2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Gerrard is a decent comparison, better than Grealish anyway.  Fair to say Scott is on everyone’s radar now. Apart from the city fan on here last week who said he ‘isn’t that good’!

You can see what he means about Grealish. His on the ball style/close control. 

[And Its Smith]

3 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

You can see what he means about Grealish. His on the ball style/close control. 

Yeah I think if you merge Gerrard and Grealish you get Scott. 

[Merrick's Marvels]

15 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Is that available with subtitles? 

[Garland-sweden]

Think there is hope he can play with us next season to. Next season think we will be top six.

[And Its Smith]

3 minutes ago, Garland-sweden said:

Think there is hope he can play with us next season to. Next season think we will be top six.

Only one kind of hope. No hope 

[Garland-sweden]

3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Only one kind of hope. No hope 

He he. Its hope and even its hope its not unrealistic. Our boys get one year older and Will be better. The guy from Wycombe can be very good. Think we ends 10 place or somrthing, next season we will be better. 

[cidercity1987]

I dunno what podcast that is but it's shocking they don't know who Scott is 

[glynriley]

32 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Is that available with subtitles? 

Something about kilts…?

[Merrick's Marvels]

17 minutes ago, glynriley said:

Something about kilts…?

Imagine what it sounds like when they're pished! 

[The Gasbuster]

“He’s played every game for us at BRISTOL”

aaaaaaarrrrrggghhhhh !!!!

 

[maxjak]

Surely it's now  Alex De Scott?  

[Port Said Red]

13 hours ago, The Gasbuster said:

“He’s played every game for us at BRISTOL”

aaaaaaarrrrrggghhhhh !!!!

 

There's Only One Team etc etc.

You have to remember that saying "City" outside this area means Manchester to the majority of football fans.

[City oz]

On 06/02/2023 at 06:00, jaydee=inspiration said:

Gazza, you heard it here first!!!

Nah. Sir Gerry Gow for me would be a comparision.