Wigan Athletic at home match thread

[Vidal]

I don’t know why Wigan are playing for a draw they could do us

[Super]

We've not done enough tonight. They deserved something from the game.

[Slippin cider]

FT 1-1

[Alessandro]

Quick thoughts for the night:

Positives: Still unbeaten - Joe Williams, best performance in a City shirt? - Mehmeti looks a real talent - Scott still not suspended

Negatives: Well it's not a result for a play off chasing team () - switched off badly for their goal, so soft - Weimann rusty, missed Sykes' recent levels 

[luke_bristol]

Disappointing result but completely predictable. On to the next one.

[Vidal]

Content with the draw. Didn’t deserve a win and wigan could’ve done us. 
 

if you don’t play well don’t lose and we didn’t.

[pillred]

Well that was underwhelming to say the least.

[Lrrr]

4 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

He was the dangerous one - slid in out of control. George just held his ground.

George’s studs were up on the boot he went in with, still dangerous from George, another ref could easily see that another way 

[TonyTonyTony]

McLean - what a massive ***

[Vidal]

1 minute ago, Alessandro said:

Quick thoughts for the night:

Positives: Still unbeaten - Joe Williams, best performance in a City shirt? - Mehmeti looks a real talent - Scott still not suspended

Negatives: Well it's not a result for a play off chasing team () - switched off badly for their goal, so soft - Weimann rusty, missed Sykes' recent levels 

Think Wigan did us a massive favour in that when they scored they just sat back and defended.

[Portchy]

I knew it was going to be bad, but **** me that was painful

[Andrew_V1]

If there was ever an advert for don’t change a winning team this was it. 

Please stop the playoff chat that performance was miles and miles off the required standards

 

[The Journalist]

Stopped playing between the two goals. That’s the difference between a side pushing upwards and a side not. Would’ve won that otherwise.

[AberRed]

First genuinely disappointing result for quite a while. At least we got something from it

[Numero Uno]

Take a point and move on. Overall we were crap. Cornick and Weimann rusty, we just can’t break teams like Wigan down. Still unbeaten this year, 10 point gap to 21st so not a disaster.

[Fordy62]

For me that should be three points. Max should save their effort. I bet 18 of 24 championship keepers saves that. 

[Malago]

No complaints.

We’re a long way off play off material.  Nothing to lose on Saturday.  Might as well give it a good go.

[Spike]

A frustrating game that one, I think Wigan did a good job of applying the press on us at times, made it difficult to build up any kind of play. Loss of points comes down to poor defending, I mean we held Norwich off at 1-0 but today a sloppy bit of defending was the difference. 

[Jerseybean]

Immediate reflections on that…..low quality game, a draw was about right, either team could have nicked it, we didn’t create much, kind of game we would have lost a while back, poor goal for us to concede, thought Scotty and in glimpses Anis looked impressive.

Ten unbeaten on to the next one. 

[Red Exile]

Poor - sorry to say. Too sloppy in our passing - gifting them possession which let them get back into the game. City at their worst for about 15 minutes. Needed someone to step in and calm things down. What a wasted opportunity.

Still - doesn't look like we're getting relegated!

[Mihai]

Guys why are you talking about playoffs ? Be glad we stay up and we can build on this 16 remaing games to push for a better place next season. Our team has no quality for top 6 yet.

[bs22 red]

4pts from the last 2 homes games  would have taken that

[The Gasbuster]

1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said:

McLean - what a massive ***

Bloke’s an asshole. He will never change

[DaveF]

1 minute ago, Fordy62 said:

For me that should be three points. Max should save their effort. I bet 18 of 24 championship keepers saves that. 

Dunno their Striker was only about 4 yards out, more the defenders fault for me.

[Northern Red]

Before Saturday I think we'd all have taken 4 points from the 2 games, just maybe not in this order though.

[Woofyourkipper]

3 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

Quick thoughts for the night:

Positives: Still unbeaten - Joe Williams, best performance in a City shirt? - Mehmeti looks a real talent - Scott still not suspended

Negatives: Well it's not a result for a play off chasing team () - switched off badly for their goal, so soft - Weimann rusty, missed Sykes' recent levels 

Williams?

ffs

[Robin101]

Well look, it’s a bit disappointing. But we were due a slightly dud performance and it’s positive that we got a draw not a 1-0 or 2-1 loss. 

And personally it’s great to be frustrated that our somewhat unlikely play off campaign has faltered rather than sinking towards relegation.

You never know, beat Sunderland and it looks a great result again!

[Bris Red]

Take a point. In reality we are still way off the pace in regards to the play-offs IMO. I still stand by what i said a few days ago that a top 12 finish would be a decent season given our circumstances.

[Vidal]

2 minutes ago, Andrew_V1 said:

If there was ever an advert for don’t change a winning team this was it. 

Please stop the playoff chat that performance was miles and miles off the required standards

 

Yep miles off. Mid table team.

Just now, Bris Red said:

Take a point. In reality we are still way off the pace in regards to the play-offs IMO. I still stand by what i said a few days ago that a top 12 finish would be a decent season given our circumstances.

I would take mid table mediocrity.

[ciderwithtommy]

I just don’t get us going long for the last 10 minutes with bell and wells up top. Played into their hands.

[pillred]

1 minute ago, bs22 red said:

4pts from the last 2 homes games  would have taken that

Probably would have expected the results to be reversed but yes.

[Spike]

1 minute ago, Andrew_V1 said:

If there was ever an advert for don’t change a winning team this was it. 

Please stop the playoff chat that performance was miles and miles off the required standards

 

I agree to a degree, too many changes but I thought Mehmeti was a whole other level out wide. Bell does an amazing job running and chasing down but he doesn't have that cross in his bag and he isn't as confident running at a player from a standstill. I'd be interested to see Mehmeti, Bell and Sykes upfront with Bell in the middle, I reckon his closing down and ability to create space off of the ball would be interesting with Sykes and Mehmeti looking to cut inside and cause panic.

[Tinmans Love Child]

3 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

For me that should be three points. Max should save their effort. I bet 18 of 24 championship keepers saves that. 

I think 17

[cidercity1987]

Scored a lovely goal, hit the post and the bar but didn't do enough to win

Wigan looked decent and the kind of side that we never pick up a home win against 

[The Original OTIB]

3 minutes ago, Malago said:

No complaints.

We’re a long way off play off material.  Nothing to lose on Saturday.  Might as well give it a good go.

Well shots on target would help, only one tonight. 

[Lrrr]

3 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

For me that should be three points. Max should save their effort. I bet 18 of 24 championship keepers saves that. 

Tanner shouldn’t let Fletcher get across him and have a shot from 6/7 yards out so easily, only so much Max can do at that point 

[Vidal]

1 minute ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

I think 17

He won’t be our number 1 next season.

[Red_Alligator]

Well that's football summed up nicely in two games. Frustrating tonight, expected the three points but there you are. One game at a time..

[Super]

2 minutes ago, Mihai said:

Guys why are you talking about playoffs ? Be glad we stay up and we can build on this 16 remaing games to push for a better place next season. Our team has no quality for top 6 yet.

Hopefully people will stop the daft playoff talk now. We're a long way off although an improving team.

[petehinton]

9 unbeaten, in with a real shout to finish top 10, and rotated ourselves well considering wells Sykes and bell are far more suited to Sunderland away than Wigan at home. 

Theyve scored a truly shite goal and any chance came from deflections along the way. Hit the underside of the bar and inside of the post straight after  

Feels like some just want to find something to moan about after having it so good for a few months. 

[redkev]

Credit to Wigan , denied us possession and room . 
denying us possession and quick pressing meant that we went to hitting a fair few I wouldn’t say long aimless balls but longer passes meaning the % rate for keeping possession is lower hence why lots of turn over ( god that’s rugger talk )

[ProfitInMyPocket]

Bar the two woodworks and a few wayward smashes across the box we didn't create much else, fair play to Wigan.

They could have pinched it and so could we. 

Weimann really poor decision making, Cornick will take time to settle but looked ok in linking up some bits first half.

Mehmeti overplays sometimes but showed a bit of his quality tonight, got us a point with that ball in for big Rob.

Another game unbeaten, people speaking like we're right in and amongst the top six, this team is growing and learning still.

We'd have thrown that game away in previous seasons! Another point on the board and on to Saturday.

 

 

[Simon bristol]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

I agree to a degree, too many changes but I thought Mehmeti was a whole other level out wide. Bell does an amazing job running and chasing down but he doesn't have that cross in his bag and he isn't as confident running at a player from a standstill. I'd be interested to see Mehmeti, Bell and Sykes upfront with Bell in the middle, I reckon his closing down and ability to create space off of the ball would be interesting with Sykes and Mehmeti looking to cut inside and cause panic.

Conway in the middle would be crying out for those 2 wide

[Dan Robin]

Shame we didn't win, but overall the result is fair: we were the best team in the 2nd half despite conceding a poor goal, but they had some chances too so at the end a point is OK.

 

Edited February 15, 2023 by Dan Robin

[Northern Red]

James McClean seems to have a permanent chip on his shoulder. Very angry man.

[Spike]

2 minutes ago, Mihai said:

Guys why are you talking about playoffs ? Be glad we stay up and we can build on this 16 remaing games to push for a better place next season. Our team has no quality for top 6 yet.

I'm just disappointed that we didn;t break into the top half. I think a top half finish this season would show a real change since the change of formation, tactics and signings. It would definitely make a great sales point to potential summer signings, to show we changed things up, brought in some new faces and turned the season around from a relegation fight to a respectable league position. Still, it's only one game and it's not a loss, earlier in the season Wigan would have come away with all three points so it's still an improvement. 

[Vidal]

Just now, ProfitInMyPocket said:

Bar the two woodworks and a few wayward smashes across the box we didn't create much else, fair play to Wigan.

They could have pinched it and so could we. 

Weimann really poor decision making, Cornick will take time to settle but looked ok in linking up some bits first half.

Mehmeti overplays sometimes but showed a bit of his quality tonight, got us a point with that ball in for big Rob.

Another game unbeaten, people speaking like we're right in and amongst the top six, this team is growing and learning still.

We'd have thrown that game away in previous seasons! Another point on the board and on to Saturday.

 

 

Weimann the weak link. Was dross.

[BS3_RED]

That first half was just shocking. Looked  unbalanced and  very disjointed. Why make so many changes?

Edited February 15, 2023 by BS3_RED

[maxjak]

2 hours ago, maxjak said:

Yep me too...........can see a draw, or worse.   Put it down to City long term paranoia?

Bad luck City ............but the most predictable of results........it was always gonna be a draw?   Any talks of a late run to the play offs is a delusional dream, but a top ten finish is certainly feasible......which pre season would be regarded as progress?

[Mihai]

Just now, Super said:

Hopefully people will stop the daft playoff talk now. We're a long way off although an improving team.

Yea, but I am more positive now than in December. At least even this game we had some moments when we pushed for a goal, not playing only the classic " non football" long balls forever like we do when Martin is on.

[ChippenhamRed]

4 minutes ago, Andrew_V1 said:

If there was ever an advert for don’t change a winning team this was it. 

Please stop the playoff chat that performance was miles and miles off the required standards

 

In reality the play offs are probably beyond us this year, but we’re now 10 games unbeaten and recent performances against good sides have been very much play off standard. One slightly disappointing result - which all teams will have - doesn’t make that any less true. No play off chasing team will hit their peak level every week.

[BCFC Rich]

I confess I knew nothing about Mehmeti before the transfer rumors. Then saw the youtube video and was obviously excited about his talent. So purely based on the video and the skill he had, I made an assumption he would be a bit more laid back off the ball - so today it was great to see him press, harass and track back for the whole game. I was very impressed with hi. 

[David Brent]

Oh well. On to Saturday to continue this run. 

[Ska Junkie]

Not a great game or performance but Wigan are certainly scrapping and deserved their point.

We move on to Wear side where we should just go for it, not going up, not going down.

MOM, probably big Rob although Williams and James were decent.

A bit 'anti football' would be the feeling I leave with tonight.

[Alex_BCFC]

We were never going to get 10 wins from 16 so at least we can focus on a realistic aim of top half and continue to build for next season.

Soft gol conceded but fair result although we looked a bit more likely with couple of efforts on woodwork after the equaliser. 

[HOZDA]

Never simple or guaranteed in this league, especially against struggling and dogged sides. Poor performance overall but we got a point and are still undefeated. Onto the next. Tough game vs Sunderland but hopefully will be more of an open game.

[ChippenhamRed]

4 minutes ago, Spike said:

I'm just disappointed that we didn;t break into the top half. I think a top half finish this season would show a real change since the change of formation, tactics and signings. It would definitely make a great sales point to potential summer signings, to show we changed things up, brought in some new faces and turned the season around from a relegation fight to a respectable league position. Still, it's only one game and it's not a loss, earlier in the season Wigan would have come away with all three points so it's still an improvement. 

Still 45 points to play for, we are still one of the form teams in the division, on a very good unbeaten run, and we had a decent transfer window.

I still expect us to finish in the top half.

[Numero Uno]

2 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said:

We were never going to get 10 wins from 16 so at least we can focus on a realistic aim of top half and continue to build for next season.

Soft gol conceded but fair result although we looked a bit more likely with couple of efforts on woodwork after the equaliser. 

Agree. A dose of realism tonight but without getting beat.

[Offside]

Disappointing we didn’t win after being 1-0 up, but a draw was a fair result. Looked like a soft goal to concede from my seat in the South Stand, but to be fair Wigan always looked dangerous and we lacked quality in the final third. The equaliser was coming - we were very lacklustre in the first 20 mins of the second half. 

[phantom]

Bit of perspective 

We were really struggling a few months back, now we're ten unbeaten 

[Robin101]

The Championship is so tight and unpredictable that paying too much attention to who the draws and the wins come against feels a bit futile.

Ten unbeaten, no matter who against and in what order, is a hell of an achievement. Well done lads.

[bcfc01]

Wigan more than deserved a point, looked very much like they wanted it more.

City very passive,

Wells and Bell barely touched the ball, not in the game and wandered around, same for Weimann who was woeful.

At least Cornick ran around a bit and Sykes got stuck into the game when he came on. They should start on saturday.

Scott just about average, didn't do enough and rightly subbed, but James and Williams very good.

Defenders all good.

Mehmeti good assist and hit post with a cross. Reminds me of Eliasson..

Vey disappointing and lacklustre performance, but 10 games undefeated.

Back to 16th.

[ChippenhamRed]

3 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said:

We were never going to get 10 wins from 16 so at least we can focus on a realistic aim of top half and continue to build for next season.

Soft gol conceded but fair result although we looked a bit more likely with couple of efforts on woodwork after the equaliser. 

I accept the play off chat is probably a bit optimistic and I’m as guilty as any one.

But it’s also a bit weird to completely give up on it on the strength of one slightly disappointing draw. Still 45 points to play for.

[Out of his pie crust]

As always, tough to get a win in this league, a point a good result based on the performance. Keep unbeaten run going Saturday and on we go

[David Brent]

We’re a counter attacking team, which I have no issue with at all.  But in order to counter, you have to be attacked.

Shame about the goal we conceded as Wigan offered little threat. Even from corners. 
 

[Major Isewater]

6 minutes ago, Spike said:

earlier in the season Wigan would have come away with all three points

Earlier in the season Wigan were rubbish, so I am not totally in agreement. 
Tonight they hardly threatened our goal and we pretty much switched off to gift wrap one for them. 
We didn’t quite do enough to put the game to bed.

 

[Bris Red]

Just now, ChippenhamRed said:

I accept the play off chat is probably a bit optimistic and I’m as guilty as any one.

But it’s also a bit weird to completely give up on it on the strength of one slightly disappointing draw. Still 45 points to play for.

Win against Sunderland on the weekend and I’m sure the play-off talk will re emerge.. Never say never of course but i would be absolutely shocked if we could win 10 or 11 out of the next 16 which is probably what would be needed to finish top 6. It would have to be a monumental effort.

[ChippenhamRed]

1 minute ago, David Brent said:

We’re a counter attacking team, which I have no issue with at all.  But in order to counter, you have to be attacked.

Shame about the goal we conceded as Wigan offered little threat. Even from corners. 
 

I felt this on Saturday. Norwich had a lot of the ball but I felt it suited us. We always carry such a threat on the break. The way we’re set up now, games like tonight can actually be harder.

[phantom]

Just now, TomF said:

.. so let’s just do a number on Sunderland like Middlesbrough have tonight 

Err that was Sheffield United 

[ChippenhamRed]

2 minutes ago, Bris Red said:

Win against Sunderland on the weekend and I’m sure the play-off talk will re emerge.. Never say never of course but i would be absolutely shocked if we could win 10 or 11 out of the next 16 which is probably what would be needed to finish top 6. It would have to be a monumental effort.

It would, and I’m not pretending it’s likely, but if it’s going to happen, it’s more likely to happen to a team on a 10 game unbeaten run with all the confidence and momentum that goes with it.

I know, I’m a naive fool.