Seventh Heaven

[downendcity]

1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

Doubt it in the 50s, when - for example - Bristolians often went to City and Rovers games on consecutive weekends.  Nowadays only @Robboreddoes that! 

But you're right. The 70s is when the real needle crept into football rivalries. 

Ah, so when RR says he's been there, seen that and got the t-shirt, this is the t-shirt he means.....

[maxjak]

2 hours ago, redkev said:

On today’s performance and attitude I would be stripping Fernandez of the captaincy first thing tomorrow morning and look to get rid end of season , cheat who is always diving , constantly on the refs back , bad attitude now and again has a decent game , get rid 

Yep....... i noticed in the end sequence on MOTD, that he went down clutching his face, after receiving a gentle push in the chest.  He  should know that the camera sees everything these days, he is an embarrassment..... Ha!!

[RedLionLad]

7 hours ago, Super said:

Neville has gone in hard on Fernandes!

Should have been a yellow at least

[Bris Red]

8 hours ago, TheReds said:

I know a few Liverpool fans myself and none have ever been to a single game (I've seen them live once more than them), the same as a couple of Spurs fans who have never been to a single Spurs game between them. None have ever even tried to get on any supporters club/members etc to try and get match tickets either. Very odd.

Plenty of Liverpool ‘fans’ in Bristol that i know haven’t even been to the city of Liverpool let alone stepped inside of Anfield. Absolutely mental.

[RedorDead BCFC]

38 minutes ago, Bris Red said:

Plenty of Liverpool ‘fans’ in Bristol that i know haven’t even been to the city of Liverpool let alone stepped inside of Anfield. Absolutely mental.

I’m reading my Facebook Man U and Liverpool friends arguing. I think most of them have never been north of Cheltenham let alone to Manchester or Liverpool. 

[Robbored]

7 hours ago, maxjak said:

Yep....... i noticed in the end sequence on MOTD, that he went down clutching his face, after receiving a gentle push in the chest.  He  should know that the camera sees everything these days, he is an embarrassment..... Ha!!

That kind of ‘street craft’ as the Latino’s call it is just a part of their game. Lots of them behave in a similar fashion. There are numerous examples - the ‘hand of god’, Simeone getting Beckham sent off and grinning about it.. Diving and feigning injury, Neymar exaggerated rolling is another example…….the list in endless.

Simeone is exactly the same as a manager in Spain with Athletico Madrid - cheating bastards.

[AshtonGreat]

1 hour ago, Bris Red said:

Plenty of Liverpool ‘fans’ in Bristol that i know haven’t even been to the city of Liverpool let alone stepped inside of Anfield. Absolutely mental.

That’s the beauty of Sky Sports

[RedorDead BCFC]

40 minutes ago, Robbored said:

That kind of ‘street craft’ as the Latino’s call it is just a part of their game. Lots of them behave in a similar fashion. There are numerous examples - the ‘hand of god’, Simeone getting Beckham sent off and grinning about it.. Diving and feigning injury, Neymar exaggerated rolling is another example…….the list in endless.

Simeone is exactly the same as a manager in Spain with Athletico Madrid - cheating bastards.

Fernandez is European not Latino though? 

[cidered abroad]

13 hours ago, cidercity1987 said:

Out come the fake scousers of OTIB , boringggggggg

I have been a City supporter for over seventy years. But I also appreciate watching great teams and individual players over the years.

So am I wrong to admire the goal that De Bruyne scored last week? Or to cherish the great international sides like Hungary in 1950's, Brasil with Pele and players. Especially the Man U Busby Babes with so many tragically taken early in Munich.

So for a Premier League team to slaughter a club third in the table by 7-0, I consider that to be a superb achievement.

From a lover of all sports but especially rugby and football.

[cidercity1987]

6 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

I have been a City supporter for over seventy years. But I also appreciate watching great teams and individual players over the years.

So am I wrong to admire the goal that De Bruyne scored last week? Or to cherish the great international sides like Hungary in 1950's, Brasil with Pele and players. Especially the Man U Busby Babes with so many tragically taken early in Munich.

So for a Premier League team to slaughter a club third in the table by 7-0, I consider that to be a superb achievement.

From a lover of all sports but especially rugby and football.

No problem

But at least three of the most prolific posters on OTIB are fake scousers.

It's just a bit weird.

[Davefevs]

8 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

Don't think there's a one size fits all approach to football support. Plenty can be passionate and knowledgeable without attending, Plenty can attend and know nothing about the sport (we've got enough of them!!!) 

Agree.

I make no secret that Liverpool is my “other team”.  First game I watched on tv was Liverpool v BMG, before I watched City.  Liverpool played in red, so when dad brought home two big wall-posters, one City, one Rovers, it was the City one that I wanted.  My bruv got the Rovers one, although he did the same as me and followed City because of the red of Liverpool.  He actually isn’t a sports fan, but would take Liverpool over City when they played, unlike me.  My first City game was the 1-0 v Liverpool (Royle).  I like Celtic because Dalglish signed from them.  I like BMG (as my German team) because of that first tv match.

I look out for lots of clubs’ results, silly little reasons.

And I’ve been to Anfield many times.  Not that attending means anything.

I can like football and teams for whatever reasons I like.  Who defined the rules that 1) you could only like 1 team and 2) had to go to their games to qualify.

2 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

No problem

But at least three of the most prolific posters on OTIB are fake scousers.

It's just a bit weird.

….and 3) have to be a scouser to like Liverpool.

[cidercity1987]

5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Agree.

I make no secret that Liverpool is my “other team”.  First game I watched on tv was Liverpool v BMG, before I watched City.  Liverpool played in red, so when dad brought home two big wall-posters, one City, one Rovers, it was the City one that I wanted.  My bruv got the Rovers one, although he did the same as me and followed City because of the red of Liverpool.  He actually isn’t a sports fan, but would take Liverpool over City when they played, unlike me.  My first City game was the 1-0 v Liverpool (Royle).  I like Celtic because Dalglish signed from them.  I like BMG (as my German team) because of that first tv match.

I look out for lots of clubs’ results, silly little reasons.

And I’ve been to Anfield many times.  Not that attending means anything.

I can like football and teams for whatever reasons I like.  Who defined the rules that 1) you could only like 1 team and 2) had to go to their games to qualify.

….and 3) have to be a scouser to like Liverpool.

And therein defines the reason why the sixth biggest city is so pathetic at football

If our most dedicated fans (by number of posts) also support another team what chance do we have of getting floating Bristolians away from the likes of Liverpool/Man Utd?

[Davefevs]

5 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

And therein defines the reason why the sixth biggest city is so pathetic at football

If our most dedicated fans (by number of posts) also support another team what chance do we have of getting floating Bristolians away from the likes of Liverpool/Man Utd?

I’d hate to think posting a lot on OTIB qualifies me as a “most dedicated” fan, far from it.  Dedicated poster, maybe!  I’m far from being a typical fan, I’m a football fan, yep, sports fan, yep.  I’m not a die-hard.  I don’t think it defines why a big city like us doesn’t have a top flight team at all.  It’s historical.  We missed the boat of having success as football grew post-war, in the 60s and 70s.

That’s when clubs grew huge like Liverpool and Man Utd, even Forest who are no bigger a club than us in reality.  Most continued that into the PL era.  New clubs joined it.  Tottenham and Man Utd both got relegated in the 70s, Man City in the 80s (or was it 90s, maybe both).  Timing is important.

We blew the chance, as you know, in the late 70s.  Had we ridden that relegation, or gone down and came back up, we could’ve sustained top flight football into the PL era.

You need to look elsewhere for your stereotype / typical City fan.

 

[Red-Robbo]

11 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

And therein defines the reason why the sixth biggest city is so pathetic at football

If our most dedicated fans (by number of posts) also support another team what chance do we have of getting floating Bristolians away from the likes of Liverpool/Man Utd?

 

My favourite Premier League team is whoever beats one of the "Big Six": if it's Leicester or Brentford or Brighton or whoever.

I think supporting City all your life gives you something of an underdog spirit vis a vis the massive clubs and you always like to see them toppled. 

From within the "Big Six", I probably have the most time for Spurs. I watched them a couple of times in the 80s when I was a student and ironically, it's the fact that they are the least successful (in modern times) of those six (maybe seven now, with Newcastle's Saudi money) makes me more sympathetic to them.

As I come from generation after generation of Bristolians, I have no real "claim" to any club from elsewhere though.

Growing up in the early 70s, playgrounds were full of Somerset "Leeds fans" because "they are the best club".  I never got that attitude. 

[Midred]

7 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

My favourite Premier League team is whoever beats one of the "Big Six": if it's Leicester or Brentford or Brighton or whoever.

I think supporting City all your life gives you something of an underdog spirit vis a vis the massive clubs and you always like to see them toppled. 

From within the "Big Six", I probably have the most time for Spurs. I watched them a couple of times in the 80s when I was a student and ironically, it's the fact that they are the least successful (in modern times) of those six (maybe seven now, with Newcastle's Saudi money) makes me more sympathetic to them.

As I come from generation after generation of Bristolians, I have no real "claim" to any club from elsewhere though.

Growing up in the early 70s, playgrounds were full of Somerset "Leeds fans" because "they are the best club".  I never got that attitude. 

Super Bristol,

Super City,

Supercede,

Super Leeds!

As someone said as we moved into the quarter finals. 

[Midred]

42 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Agree.

I make no secret that Liverpool is my “other team”.  First game I watched on tv was Liverpool v BMG, before I watched City.  Liverpool played in red, so when dad brought home two big wall-posters, one City, one Rovers, it was the City one that I wanted.  My bruv got the Rovers one, although he did the same as me and followed City because of the red of Liverpool.  He actually isn’t a sports fan, but would take Liverpool over City when they played, unlike me.  My first City game was the 1-0 v Liverpool (Royle).  I like Celtic because Dalglish signed from them.  I like BMG (as my German team) because of that first tv match.

I look out for lots of clubs’ results, silly little reasons.

And I’ve been to Anfield many times.  Not that attending means anything.

I can like football and teams for whatever reasons I like.  Who defined the rules that 1) you could only like 1 team and 2) had to go to their games to qualify.

….and 3) have to be a scouser to like Liverpool.

How many of us support a team that we adopted from a move in later life?

I would have to support Kettering Town if place of birth was compulsory as a supporting criteria!

[Kodjias Wrist]

Back to the match itself from a neutral perspective I agree with GN post match in all honesty but he needed to admit Liverpool played very well for the first 30 mins in second half. I actually thought Man Utd edged it with chances in the first half. After 4 or 5 its a capitulation and the last couple of goals they conceded were embarrasing. Fernandez attitude was embarrassing also.

Also not sure what point Souness and Carragher were trying to make on Man Utd. They have had a really good upturn in performances and they mention the last 2 or 3 years? 

[Robbored]

1 hour ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Fernandez is European not Latino though? 

Is he not Argentinian? I was going by his surname.

I just looked him up - he’s Portuguese so may as well be a Latino. They have a similar attitude to the beautiful game.

Edited March 6, 2023 by Robbored

[Super]

19 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Back to the match itself from a neutral perspective I agree with GN post match in all honesty but he needed to admit Liverpool played very well for the first 30 mins in second half. I actually thought Man Utd edged it with chances in the first half. After 4 or 5 its a capitulation and the last couple of goals they conceded were embarrasing. Fernandez attitude was embarrassing also.

Also not sure what point Souness and Carragher were trying to make on Man Utd. They have had a really good upturn in performances and they mention the last 2 or 3 years? 

I never seen to get Souness tbh. I would rather neutral pundits.

[Robbored]

7 minutes ago, Super said:

I never seen to get Souness tbh. I would rather neutral pundits.

Broadcasters want pundits to disagree. That’s why you don’t see both Neville and Keane on at the same time but we do see Carragher and Neville and yesterday it was Souness who all we all know was a top Liverpool player.

[Red-Robbo]

9 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

This has got to be the single worst argument I've ever seen and I post on OTIB and have had a twitter account.

Good going that. 

 

Success begats success and should City enjoy prolonged time in the top flight, our shirts would be on sale in Sports Direct for "glory hunters" elsewhere and being exported by the tonne to China, Indonesia, Thailand, the US etc.

It's not an attitude I understand, but I'm coming from a different place than many fans. My family's solid City, my roots are entirely local and our bond to the club is deeper than just as fans.

But I look at a schoolmate of mine: dad from Cornwall, mum from Scotland, grew up in Somerset, 25 miles south of Bristol. Decided in his youth he was an Arsenal fan. But he lives in Leicester and has done for years, so once they get successful, he suddenly "follows the Foxes" and was all full of it in their title-winning year. Dunno if he's now re-finding his love of Arsenal. 

Some people are like that and just float about between clubs. Others pick clubs they have no geographical or family ties to: I remember ribbing a colleague from Hertfordshire who became a Southampton fan in 1976, when they won the FA Cup. "If I was hunting glory, do you really think I'd have picked Southampton!" was his retort, and fair point, he's stuck with them through thick and thin, unlike the Fox/Gooner hybrid I mentioned earlier.

Both the guys I mention watch more football than me, read about football more than me, probably know more about lots of aspects of the game than me. 

So, who is the "real" fan?  I have to agree with the thrust of your earlier argument that it does, indeed, take all sorts.

The idea of just choosing a club from somewhere you have little connection to, based on their current success, seems alien to me, but not everyone is as rooted to their local side as I am. AFAIC whatever your reason for choosing City, we welcome your support. 

[View from the Dolman]

Just now, Robbored said:

That’s why you don’t see both Neville and Keane on at the same time

That's weird - I saw exactly that yesterday.

[Major Isewater]

11 hours ago, RedLionLad said:

The War of the Roses is where it all stems from.

Was always a Quality Street man myself. 

[2015]

34 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Back to the match itself from a neutral perspective I agree with GN post match in all honesty but he needed to admit Liverpool played very well for the first 30 mins in second half. I actually thought Man Utd edged it with chances in the first half. After 4 or 5 its a capitulation and the last couple of goals they conceded were embarrasing. Fernandez attitude was embarrassing also.

Also not sure what point Souness and Carragher were trying to make on Man Utd. They have had a really good upturn in performances and they mention the last 2 or 3 years? 

Personally thought G Nev had lost his head for a few minutes. Must hurt seeing his team lose 7-0 to his most despised team though.

I f****** hated their Fergie era 

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, Major Isewater said:

Was always a Quality Street man myself. 

No celebrations for you then!

[southside]

9 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Was always a Quality Street man myself. 

But roses tended to grow on you

[Kodjias Wrist]

10 minutes ago, 2015 said:

Personally thought G Nev had lost his head for a few minutes. Must hurt seeing his team lose 7-0 to his most despised team though.

I f****** hated their Fergie era 

Yeah he did but they were being pretty condescending If it wad the other way around the reaction would of been worse. As i said not sure what point they were trying to make he answered tueir questions several times. 

Hes right in saying a 7-0 defeat is a freak result especially so high up the pyramid. That wasn't enough for the pool boys to hear. Man Utd have been doing very well recently, these are all facts. I guess his refusal to give credit to Liverpool set the tone.

[redsince1994]

52 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Is he not Argentinian? I was going by his surname.

I just looked him up - he’s Portuguese so may as well be a Latino. They have a similar attitude to the beautiful game.

You REALLY need to learn the definition of Latino. I have seen you post similar numerous times, I'm assuming it is borne of ignorance rather than prejudice but it's not a good look.

[Kodjias Wrist]

7 minutes ago, redsince1994 said:

You REALLY need to learn the definition of Latino. I have seen you post similar numerous times, I'm assuming it is borne of ignorance rather than prejudice but it's not a good look.

In all fairness there are many different definitions for Latino, some broader than others and some include portugese descent.

[2015]

12 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Yeah he did but they were being pretty condescending If it wad the other way around the reaction would of been worse. As i said not sure what point they were trying to make he answered tueir questions several times. 

Hes right in saying a 7-0 defeat is a freak result especially so high up the pyramid. That wasn't enough for the pool boys to hear. Man Utd have been doing very well recently, these are all facts. I guess his refusal to give credit to Liverpool set the tone.

I think that was the main reason why Carragher and Souness were in amazement about G Nev's comments. You have to give some credit to the opposition for that scoreline too. Even Keane had a wry smile on his face during the debate. He knew that G Nev was talking through passion rather than with his brain.

Like you said, Man Utd have been excellent for the last 3 or 4 months and it is is a freak result. Couldn't have had a worse performance against a worse club from United's point of view.

[redsince1994]

1 minute ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

In all fairness there are many different definitions for Latino, some broader than others and some include portugese descent.

Yep Portuguese descent but not people born in Portugal. The issue really is just the "Cheating = Latino" mindset.

Fernandes was absolutely disgraceful mind, just looked and he somehow didn't pick up a yellow yesterday!

[Kodjias Wrist]

1 minute ago, redsince1994 said:

Yep Portuguese descent but not people born in Portugal. The issue really is just the "Cheating = Latino" mindset.

Fernandes was absolutely disgraceful mind, just looked and he somehow didn't pick up a yellow yesterday!

Yeah i couldn't believe his attitude and body language. The game really needs to look at retrospective action on players for bringing the game into disrepute. Grabbing his face like that was absolutely pathetic. Id be so embarrassed if that was my player.

[Super]

11 minutes ago, redsince1994 said:

Yep Portuguese descent but not people born in Portugal. The issue really is just the "Cheating = Latino" mindset.

Fernandes was absolutely disgraceful mind, just looked and he somehow didn't pick up a yellow yesterday!

[Gazred]

[The Batman]

I watch the United Stand YouTube channel when they lose as Goldbridge does love a good rant. 

since Jan 2020, they've played 8 matches and the aggregate score is 25-7 to Liverpool. 

[RedorDead BCFC]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

Is he not Argentinian? I was going by his surname.

I just looked him up - he’s Portuguese so may as well be a Latino. They have a similar attitude to the beautiful game.

Do you honestly think that being some sort of a football fan we believe you that you had no idea he was Portuguese?

 

 
 

Edited March 6, 2023 by RedorDead BCFC

[Northern Red]

 

[downendcity]

5 hours ago, Robbored said:

That kind of ‘street craft’ as the Latino’s call it is just a part of their game. Lots of them behave in a similar fashion. There are numerous examples - the ‘hand of god’, Simeone getting Beckham sent off and grinning about it.. Diving and feigning injury, Neymar exaggerated rolling is another example…….the list in endless.

Simeone is exactly the same as a manager in Spain with Athletico Madrid - cheating bastards.

Or as we call it "cheating".

It's about time they had a post match review system, where incidents like this are reviewed and if a player is then found to have simulated an injury in an attempt to get an opposition player booked or sent off then retrospective punishment can be applied. For goodness sake, they did this to Bailey Wright and he hadn't done anything wrong!

In rugby I think I'm right in saying they have a similar system where a player is cited (sp) to be reviewed subsequently ( rugby lads/lasses can clarify this).

The problem is that while players continue to get away with this sort of thing, and think that it might give them an advantage, then they will keep doing it. A few 3 match bans given retrospectively might cause a change in attitude.

The cynic in me thinks that nothing will change, but that players like Bailey Wright, at clubs like ours, will get punished while the premier league superstars will  continue, because they are excused as  " it's street craft', part of their game" or "part of their footbal culture" .

 

[downendcity]

1 hour ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Do you honestly think that being some sort of a football fan we believe you that you had no idea he was Portuguese?
 

In fairness, Fernandez was born in Portugal, plays for Portugal, speaks Portuguese and has a Portuguese wife, so you can see why it might be difficult for Robbored  to determine that he is, in fact, Portuguese!

That, and that it's not on the OS, of course!!!

[Red-Robbo]

5 minutes ago, downendcity said:

In fairness, Fernandez was born in Portugal, plays for Portugal, speaks Portuguese and has a Portuguese wife, so you can see why it might be difficult for Robbored  to determine that he is, in fact, Portuguese!

That, and that it's not on the OS, of course!!!

 

He's "Fernandes" and generally speaking that's one way to tell the two Iberian states apart: Spanish surnames that end in -ez end in -es in Portuguese.

 

[downendcity]

1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

He's "Fernandes" and generally speaking that's one way to tell the two Iberian states apart: Spanish surnames that end in -ez end in -es in Portuguese.

 

Even less reason to be confused then! 

[Robbored]

3 hours ago, redsince1994 said:

You REALLY need to learn the definition of Latino. I have seen you post similar numerous times, I'm assuming it is borne of ignorance rather than prejudice but it's not a good look.

Latino - a person of South American descent. 

Brazil are only S.American country that speak Portuguese. All the others speak Spanish.

[Robbored]

2 hours ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Do you honestly think that being some sort of a football fan we believe you that you had no idea he was Portuguese?

I take zero interest in Man Utd. In fact I wasn’t aware that Fernandez was captain so why would I know where his was from?…………..

Having watched his antics of feigning injury, pushing the linesman and trying to get opponents sent off smacked of typical Latino behaviour.

[Bazooka Joe]

2 hours ago, Gazred said:

Why the long face Fernandez ?

You were United's MOTM,

Moaner of the Match.

Never mind,

Noddy still rates you.

[Super]

3 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I take zero interest in Man Utd. In fact I wasn’t aware that Fernandez was captain so why would I know where his was from?…………..

Having watched his antics of feigning injury, pushing the linesman and trying to get opponents sent off smacked of typical Latino behaviour.

Didn't you see him in the World Cup?

[redsince1994]

14 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Latino - a person of South American descent. 

Brazil are only S.American country that speak Portuguese. All the others speak Spanish.

And given Fernandes is Portuguese........

[redsince1994]

6 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I take zero interest in Man Utd. In fact I wasn’t aware that Fernandez was captain so why would I know where his was from?…………..

Having watched his antics of feigning injury, pushing the linesman and trying to get opponents sent off smacked of typical Latino behaviour.

Ok I take back the assumption that this was just ignorance, you're a racist 

[Bazooka Joe]

Neville was so rattled he called Carragher "James"

Taxi for Neville.

"Home James"

[Robbored]

6 minutes ago, Super said:

Didn't you see him in the World Cup?

No…….who was he playing for?

[Robbored]

5 minutes ago, redsince1994 said:

And given Fernandes is Portuguese........

Yeah - and Portuguese is spoken in Brazil…….can you not see the connection?

[SE23Red]

3 minutes ago, Robbored said:

No…….who was he playing for?

Brazil

[redsince1994]

Just now, Robbored said:

Yeah - and Portuguese is spoken in Brazil…….can you not see the connection?

Between Fernandes and Brazil?

Not really, given he is Portuguese. As has been pointed out repeatedly. 

 

Literally none of this is relevant however, you are doing your usual strawman arguments to get away from the fact you assumed someone's ethnicity because of how they act on a football pitch.

 

[Gert Mare]

I'm not a plastic supporter of any other club.

I support my own and that's it.

Means absolutely nothing to me if either club wins anything.

However, as a neutral I enjoyed the match.

Hopefully Liverpool will get battered 7-0 next week just so I don't have to see all of the plastic fans spouting irrelevant drivel all over their social media feeds. Like it ACTUALLY means anything to them.

**** off plastic supporters. There is only one club to give a shit about. Your own!

[steviestevieneville]

16 hours ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

I’ve been told (and I’m open to being corrected) that the reason Man U and Liverpool hate each other is nothing to do with being local rivals, nor religion or politics - apparently it was after the Munich air disaster when many of the ‘Busby Babes’ tragically lost their lives, Liverpool fans draped piss-taking banners mocking the tragedy from motorway bridges around the area. 
Man U fans have (understandably) never forgiven them for this and the hatred has grown. 
Like I said - I’m open to being corrected on this, but this is my understanding from what I’ve been told. 
 

The rivalry I’ve been told is between the two citys before football . Manchester took a lot of work away from Merseyside when the Manchester ship canal was built 

[Super]

50 minutes ago, Robbored said:

No…….who was he playing for?

Wales

[Robbored]

37 minutes ago, redsince1994 said:

Between Fernandes and Brazil?

Not really, given he is Portuguese. As has been pointed out repeatedly. 

 

Literally none of this is relevant however, you are doing your usual strawman arguments to get away from the fact you assumed someone's ethnicity because of how they act on a football pitch.

That’s quite correct. However I’d add that it’s the footballing culture that determines such shithousery. It’s the way in which they’re coached as youngsters and until they play overseas think that that the way football should be played.

Obviously I’m not criticising the entire population of S America - just those who were coached to playing football in the fashion that they do.

I’m 100% certain that I’m not the only football fan who holds this view.

[cidered abroad]

7 hours ago, cidercity1987 said:

And therein defines the reason why the sixth biggest city is so pathetic at football

If our most dedicated fans (by number of posts) also support another team what chance do we have of getting floating Bristolians away from the likes of Liverpool/Man Utd?

The word "support" means, IMO, someone who consistently pays entrance money to attend a clubs matches as opposed to a"fan". Thus while many of us take an interest in lots of different clubs, all over the planet and for dozens of different reason's, that doesn't mean that we support them either financially or in fact get to see them live. Maybe once a year or three. If I'm walking through a local park and there is a game in progress, I stop to have a look and enjoy others playing the greatest team game ever devised.

Your opinion seems to imply that people like me and @Davefevs and plenty of others on this forum taking an interest in the world of football outside of Ashton Gate are damaging Bristol City's chances of progression upwards. How sad!

 

Edited March 6, 2023 by cidered abroad

[Numero Uno]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

Yeah - and Portuguese is spoken in Brazil…….can you not see the connection?

Brazilian Portuguese is different from the Portuguese version, a lot easier to learn.

[Numero Uno]

8 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

The word "support" means, IMO, someone who consistently pays entrance money to attend a clubs matches as opposed to a"fan". Thus while many of us take an interest in lots of different clubs, all over the planet and for dozens of different reason's, that doesn't mean that we support them either financially or in fact get to see them live. Maybe once a year or three. If I'm walking through a local park and there is a game in progress, I stop to have a look and enjoy others playing the greatest team game ever devised.

Your opinion seems to imply that people like me and @Davefevs and plenty of others on this forum taking an interest in the world of football outside of Ashton Gate are damaging Bristol City's chances of progression upwards. How sad!

 

Reminds me, I must stop watching Ashton & Blackwell United during international breaks.

[cidered abroad]

2 hours ago, Robbored said:

Latino - a person of South American descent. 

Brazil are only S.American country that speak Portuguese. All the others speak Spanish.

But both are languages derived mostly from 3rd Century Latin, both were invaded by Romans, and a small percentage of Arabic, due to another invasion of both countries. So I consider that Spain, Portugal and most countries from Mexico to Chile and Argentina are Latino, and that includes Brasil.

Both languages are very similar in grammar and for one who speaks and reads one it is fairly easy to understand the other. The big difference is the same as between London and Glasgow; both sound totally different to each other.

[MarcusX]

18 hours ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

I’ve been told (and I’m open to being corrected) that the reason Man U and Liverpool hate each other is nothing to do with being local rivals, nor religion or politics - apparently it was after the Munich air disaster when many of the ‘Busby Babes’ tragically lost their lives, Liverpool fans draped piss-taking banners mocking the tragedy from motorway bridges around the area. 
Man U fans have (understandably) never forgiven them for this and the hatred has grown. 
Like I said - I’m open to being corrected on this, but this is my understanding from what I’ve been told. 
 

The Manchester - Liverpool rivalry isn’t just limited to football, or sport and it dates back as far as the Industrial Revolution 

[Robbored]

37 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Reminds me, I must stop watching Ashton & Blackwell United during international breaks.

My outdoor bowls club is right to Ashton and Backwell FC.

We can hear them training and playing on Saturday afternoons.

[Midred]

Is Fernandes, irrespective of his language, ethnicity or place of birth, immune to punishment on or off the pitch? Not only did he commit several bookable offences on the pitch he also allegedly pushed a referee's assistant because said official had the temerity to place a hand on his arm! Nothing can be done now as Madley took no action at the time.

[Robbored]

35 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

But both are languages derived mostly from 3rd Century Latin, both were invaded by Romans, and a small percentage of Arabic, due to another invasion of both countries. So I consider that Spain, Portugal and most countries from Mexico to Chile and Argentina are Latino, and that includes Brasil.

Both languages are very similar in grammar and for one who speaks and reads one it is fairly easy to understand the other. The big difference is the same as between London and Glasgow; both sound totally different to each other..

It’s same in the Algarve where they speak a combination of Portuguese and Spanish. It’s almost a third language 

[RedLionLad]

14 minutes ago, Robbored said:

My outdoor bowls club is right to Ashton and Backwell FC.

We can hear them training and playing on Saturday afternoons.

Thanks for that fascinating input to a thread about a football match between Liverpool and Manchester United.

[MarcusX]

7 hours ago, Robbored said:

Is he not Argentinian? I was going by his surname.

I just looked him up - he’s Portuguese so may as well be a Latino. They have a similar attitude to the beautiful game.

I can’t believe you get away with posting this shite tbh

 

6 hours ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

In all fairness there are many different definitions for Latino, some broader than others and some include portugese descent.

Doesn’t make it ok to basically say all Latinos (or anyone who looks or sounds like they might be) are cheats

[Kodjias Wrist]

4 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

I can’t believe you get away with posting this shite tbh

 

Doesn’t make it ok to basically say all Latinos (or anyone who looks or sounds like they might be) are cheats

Didn't say it did.

[Robbored]

7 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

I can’t believe you get away with posting this shite tbh

 

Doesn’t make it ok to basically say all Latinos (or anyone who looks or sounds like they might be) are cheats.

Where did I post that?

I think you’re mistaken Marcus.

[Henry]

3 hours ago, Robbored said:

I take zero interest in Man Utd. In fact I wasn’t aware that Fernandez was captain so why would I know where his was from?…………..

Having watched his antics of feigning injury, pushing the linesman and trying to get opponents sent off smacked of typical Latino behaviour.

Another racist comment from you towards the Latin America people. Well done.

[Lrrr]