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10 minutes ago, Loïs said:

I'm amazed you'd need to pressure the ref to book a guy for jumping on the keeper's back when he's releasing the ball. Shocking bit of refereeing

They had a close up in the last seconds where Luton got the last corner. Woodrow picks the ball up and throws it off the pitch. Nothing happened, again, shocking...

To be fair, he should've sent off Pring which was probably the worst decision all game. Just glad it went our way for a change (fat lot of good it did us)

Luton were better side by a mile, but we lost to a goal we never should've conceded

I thought the Pring decision was pretty much the only one he gave us over 90 minutes.

Not the reason we lost but seemed to give every marginal one to them.

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2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

I think with Kalas at CB, Pring at LB and Williams and James midfield we would cope with the physicality and power much better.

At times it felt like Luton had multiple Semenyos on the pitch. So much power and pace. Bell, Adebayo, Morris, Campbell, others. The first half was boys against giants.

Second half was better matched, and Sykes and Weimann ran their socks off. But we still just couldn't threaten.

1-0 Luton was, imo, a fair result.

With Naismith perhaps we pass around the press a bit better too.

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 We Got a bit lucky in the 1st half pring not to be sent off to be honest or be behind by 2 or 3. Not too bothered considering the team we had out and Luton showing why they are where they very physical , lots of crosses and could play on the deck . 

We pushed cornick  up front in the 2nd half and he was able to get more stuck in and Luton  lot less possession  or in our half at least .  We sacrificed width  when we brought on the subs which did make our midfield more balanced and in the 2nd half we  defended a lot better as a team . Very impressed with our fitness levels come the last 15 minutes . 

I would say it is a game semenyo would of thrived on but there hasn't been many games where we have missed him but also just physical presence in general we could do with bringing in come the summer . 

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With no excuse the amount of the players unavailable with the thinist of squads we are where we are.

Luton with a real chance of the play offs, we get out played.

Really can't believe how so many are pissed off.

Were gona finnish half way up the league and anyone withy any vision can see progress.

Next season we will be stronger Most will stay with it. Keep the faith City fans.

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REDOXO

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22 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Did you just hear Gary Owers in response to Ian? 'Oh God'

Ian was on form tonight that’s for sure. 
 

Clearly there must be some insight into how Ill Tanner is and the fitness of Kane Wilson?
 

Obviously Nigel Pearson is a bit clueless is a common thread. I always think that some people write and sound like they don’t like Pearson and want him to fail as they put so much energy into screaming sack the bastard when we were struggling. 
 

(I think I will give FBC a miss this week)

On the other hand we didn’t win any second ball in the first half, dinked passes to no one and couldn’t cope with the power of their forwards throughout. We are a bit bare bones for sure and that is great experience for the youngsters!

 

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20 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

We deserved to lose, we look and looked tired.

Our run has in gemeneral been great but injury has been killing us a bit. Hopefully Tanner back Saturday.

Naismith, James, Conway post international break?

Next season we have contracted for sure...

O'Leary, Bajic

Tanner, Wilson, Atkinson, Pring

Naismith, James, Williams, Scott

Mehmeti, Cornick, Benarous, Sykes

Bell, Conway, Weimann, Wells

Vyner surely either new deal or contract option activated.

Hakin, Kalas, DaSilva all questions over contracts.

6 injured, one coming back from long term injury in Wilson and Bajic loaned out.

A couple of PL loanees, we need to keep most of the above and add a few IMO. Departures may make the necessary additions 7 or 8.

You see Scott here next season? 

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18 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

I think with Kalas at CB, Pring at LB and Williams and James midfield we would cope with the physicality and power much better.

At times it felt like Luton had multiple Semenyos on the pitch. So much power and pace. Bell, Adebayo, Morris, Campbell, others. The first half was boys against giants.

Second half was better matched, and Sykes and Weimann ran their socks off. But we still just couldn't threaten.

1-0 Luton was, imo, a fair result.

With the size of their front two Atkinson was a huge miss for us tonight, take your point about Kalas but unlike Rob, he’s missed most of the last year.

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7 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Ian was on form tonight that’s for sure. 
 

Clearly there must be some insight into how Ill Tanner is and the fitness of Kane Wilson?
 

Obviously Nigel Pearson is a bit clueless is a common thread. I always think that some people write and sound like they don’t like Pearson and want him to fail as they put so much energy into screaming sack the bastard when we were struggling. 
 

(I think I will give FBC a miss this week)

On the other hand we didn’t win any second ball in the first half, dinked passes to no one and couldn’t cope with the power of their forwards throughout. We are a bit bare bones for sure and that is great experience for the youngsters!

 

That's exactly what it is. To be fair it's not unique to Pearson, previous managers and God knows how many players have had it over the years.

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7 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Ian was on form tonight that’s for sure. 
 

Clearly there must be some insight into how Ill Tanner is and the fitness of Kane Wilson?
 

Obviously Nigel Pearson is a bit clueless is a common thread. I always think that some people write and sound like they don’t like Pearson and want him to fail as they put so much energy into screaming sack the bastard when we were struggling. 
 

(I think I will give FBC a miss this week)

On the other hand we didn’t win any second ball in the first half, dinked passes to no one and couldn’t cope with the power of their forwards throughout. We are a bit bare bones for sure and that is great experience for the youngsters!

 

Unfortunately, Ian doesn't understand that sometimes we just simply lose to better opposition. Luton have the 2nd best 'loss record' in the league this season. I expected zero points this evening. 

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6 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

A team that that James, Naismith, Williams, Atkinson in it could well have got a point tonight

Don’t think Conway up front would have exactly weakened us, either.

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I would love us to get Adabeyo, tore us apart at times. We would need a very big piece of paper to get his full name on it though (?)! Look it up.

No issue at all with the result, well played Luton, terrific side.

Now, at least, we know the level we must aspire to, with all our players back.

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39 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

I thought the Pring decision was pretty much the only one he gave us over 90 minutes.

Not the reason we lost but seemed to give every marginal one to them.

Thought that was a fair advantage call, they wouldn't have been happy if the guy finishes and the whistle had already blown. So not even that decision was giving us the benefit. Where I think he let himself down was not penalising challenges where there was no attempt to play the ball. 

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16 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

A squad decimated by injuries. It was a very poor performance, but to a man they have put in a lot this season. I think it will take its toll over the remaining weeks.

Looking at the remaining fixtures, it’s a blessing we have such a cushion over the bottom 3 as I think points in April will be few and far between.

You’ve got to love this forum.

Some were (ridiculously) talking about the playoffs 4 games ago & now we have “we won’t get another point”.

Reading & Rotherham at home to come in April plus it’s not beyond us to get a surprise away result, seeing as we’ve won at Stoke on our last 4 visits…

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1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

You’ve got to love this forum.

Some were (ridiculously) talking about the playoffs 4 games ago & now we have “we won’t get another point”.

Reading & Rotherham at home to come in April plus it’s not beyond us to get a surprise away result, seeing as we’ve won at Stoke on our last 4 visits…

For the record, I never once mentioned the play offs! For me it’s always been about looking over our shoulder.

You are probably right though. It’s a forum so people should all say the same thing and not have their own views. What were we thinking!

Some people are realistic, some see everything through rose tinted glasses. I guess that’s the point in having a forum?

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1 minute ago, David Brent said:

It doesn’t put that argument to bed at all. No way we could play that way for 90 minutes. Luton proved that by allowing us to still be in the game. 

What Luton showed us tonight is how far we still have to go. It seems that Nige is trying to get us play in a similar manner as they do so it was an interesting to see how far off of that we are. 

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11 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

For the record, I never once mentioned the play offs! For me it’s always been about looking over our shoulder.

You are probably right though. It’s a forum so people should all say the same thing and not have their own views. What were we thinking!

Some people are realistic, some see everything through rose tinted glasses. I guess that’s the point in having a forum?

I really like Graham's posts generally but tonight he's accused 3 of us of saying things we didn't say. Not sure what's up.

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8 hours ago, mozo said:

I really like Graham's posts generally but tonight he's accused 3 of us of saying things we didn't say. Not sure what's up.

Apologies if that’s the case.

Re the last one I was trying to say that the reality here is far more dull, we were never in with a prayer of the playoffs, as some (like the bloke with the Robin mask), but not you, had suggested.

Likewise some were saying we could get drawn into the relegation fight, needed 52 points to stay up (!) or that we now won’t get another point.

That’s not happening either.

Slow but steady progress whilst drastically reducing our wage bill.

 

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8 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

What Luton showed us tonight is how far we still have to go. It seems that Nige is trying to get us play in a similar manner as they do so it was an interesting to see how far off of that we are. 

Depth of our squad/lack of it. More of the problem. 

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Exactly the performance and sort of game I predicted , I have seen Luton a few times this year and I knew they would be all over us like a rash , did well to come out of the first half only 1 down , quite a bit better 2nd half .

what is it with us and tight small grounds never seem to do that well , Griffin park , kenilworth road , Dean court ( Bournemouth for you young uns ) apart from the one occasion I think twerton was a bit of a nightmare ground aswell

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1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Apologies if that’s the case.

Re the last one I was trying to say that the reality here is far more dull, we were never in with a prayer of the playoffs, as some (like the bloke with the Robin mask), but not you, had suggested.

Likewise some were saying we could get drawn into the relegation fight, needed 52 points to stay up (!) or that we now won’t get another point.

That’s not happening either.

Slow but steady progress whilst drastically reducing our wage bill.

 

@GrahamC the bloke with the robin mask?

Guilty. Pleased I made an impression.

I’d have hoped that anyone with an ounce of intelligence would have seen it for what it was.

Optimistically tongue in cheek.

There are far too many on here who seem to take life and themselves far too seriously. 

Me? Life’s too short for that and I like to have some fun. And let’s face it. We don’t get much fun watching our beloved BCFC at either home or away.

Unless I guess you play the football expert, like analysing phases of game play or truly enjoy dour performances week in, week out.

Slow but steady progress. Hmmmm. Not based on what this little Robin has seen through his mask.

We were poor against Cardiff. Poor against Huddersfield. Poor against Blackpool. Nine points we should have had in the bag - if we’re making steady progress.

And if we’re making progress we would have played far better last night.

I guess my mask might be affecting my eye sight but frankly I see little tangible and sustained progress.

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2 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

We want "Bazball" progress next season, smashing it all over the place. We've done the Boycott/Tavare progress now. Either that, or people will be drifting away, up Nevil Road ..... 

They really won’t.

Gates are up, why is that if it’s dull?

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16 minutes ago, BigAl&Toby said:

@GrahamC the bloke with the robin mask?

Guilty. Pleased I made an impression.

I’d have hoped that anyone with an ounce of intelligence would have seen it for what it was.

Optimistically tongue in cheek.

There are far too many on here who seem to take life and themselves far too seriously. 

Me? Life’s too short for that and I like to have some fun. And let’s face it. We don’t get much fun watching our beloved BCFC at either home or away.

Unless I guess you play the football expert, like analysing phases of game play or truly enjoy dour performances week in, week out.

Slow but steady progress. Hmmmm. Not based on what this little Robin has seen through his mask.

We were poor against Cardiff. Poor against Huddersfield. Poor against Blackpool. Nine points we should have had in the bag - if we’re making steady progress.

And if we’re making progress we would have played far better last night.

I guess my mask might be affecting my eye sight but frankly I see little tangible and sustained progress.

Fair play to you.

You said you are in your late 50s, so if you want to go around with a piece of latex on your head for “fun” then good for you.

This is a forum, it’s all about opinions, I’ve seen many of the same games as you & couldn’t disagree more on what we have both watched, so let’s just leave that there.

I’m interested in where we are going as a club, how we get there, not fancy dress but it takes all sorts.

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Not bothered by this result. Luton are doing well, we're not going to get relegated or make the playoffs.

A small squad that's still developing with loads of young players - exactly the sort of game we'd struggle in annoyingly. I am hoping that by this time next year, we'll be winning more games like this and have a realistic chance of playoffs by mid-March.

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The most entirely predictable of results..........knew it would be 1-0  or 2-0.........we sorely need some physical presence in midfield and a forward who can hold the ball up.   Still better sides than us will lose at Luton's building site of a ground?  Hey Ho........to Swansea we will go.  

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2 hours ago, redkev said:

Exactly the performance and sort of game I predicted , I have seen Luton a few times this year and I knew they would be all over us like a rash , did well to come out of the first half only 1 down , quite a bit better 2nd half .

what is it with us and tight small grounds never seem to do that well , Griffin park , kenilworth road , Dean court ( Bournemouth for you young uns ) apart from the one occasion I think twerton was a bit of a nightmare ground aswell

Please never mention Trumpton again......without doubt........my worst ever experience at an away fixture?  Amongst many away games.

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I think a few people have mentioned this before but Luton have recruited to a plan.
 

We collected players under LJ/Ashton and the fall out is now quite clear. Our approach has had implications on and off the pitch.

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1 hour ago, Beni71 said:

I think a few people have mentioned this before but Luton have recruited to a plan.
 

We collected players under LJ/Ashton and the fall out is now quite clear. Our approach has had implications on and off the pitch.

Yeah the 'great reset' has IMO another season left in the financial prudence sense however culturally I feel as though we are pretty much there. 

Another big season of change for the squad? Potebtially 4 or 5 out and that 5 or 6 in? What we don't want is to lose the opportunity for our youth pathway so that may limit the incomings.

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9 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Yeah the 'great reset' has IMO another season left in the financial prudence sense however culturally I feel as though we are pretty much there. 

Another big season of change for the squad? Potebtially 4 or 5 out and that 5 or 6 in? What we don't want is to lose the opportunity for our youth pathway so that may limit the incomings.

Agree on the cultural change, we’ve made good strides on that front.

Difficult to know where we are as a squad with so many injuries but I think 3-5 exits and may be the same incoming. Think the club has a direction again, just need to stick to it. 

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4 hours ago, BigAl&Toby said:

@GrahamC the bloke with the robin mask?

Guilty. Pleased I made an impression.

I’d have hoped that anyone with an ounce of intelligence would have seen it for what it was.

Optimistically tongue in cheek.

There are far too many on here who seem to take life and themselves far too seriously. 

Me? Life’s too short for that and I like to have some fun. And let’s face it. We don’t get much fun watching our beloved BCFC at either home or away.

Unless I guess you play the football expert, like analysing phases of game play or truly enjoy dour performances week in, week out.

Slow but steady progress. Hmmmm. Not based on what this little Robin has seen through his mask.

We were poor against Cardiff. Poor against Huddersfield. Poor against Blackpool. Nine points we should have had in the bag - if we’re making steady progress.

And if we’re making progress we would have played far better last night.

I guess my mask might be affecting my eye sight but frankly I see little tangible and sustained progress.

If you haven’t seen sustained progress on & most certainly off the pitch then quite frankly I don’t think you understand football very well . As for the   Robin mask, at least I’ll know who to avoid at games ?

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4 hours ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said:

Take as it is, their teams niggling and shithousery was awful.  They are packed full of loanies that flatter them.   I hated every minute of the last 20 mins of that game it's was horrible to watch.  They got what they wanted though the win after nicking a goal. 

Put it behind and move on. 

We've only got three loans, out of which only Marvellous is important for us

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11 hours ago, Bodiesaffer said:

Conceding the early goal shocked us, we didn’t recover, Luton were very good last night, had a great press and past it quick.  We got to grips with it in the second half.  Fitness of our team is top drawer.  Luton tired second half. 

Agree.  We started appallingly.  Poor decision making.  This is not an excuse, but appeared (on telly) that we were playing into a strongish wind and just couldn’t clear our lines with a long ball, whilst getting heavily pressed with the short stuff…it just grew into a catalogue of errors, poor decisions.  Still a bit of work to do to realise when it’s a case of battening down the hatches and just frustrate your opponents.

But the game plan when you’re 1-0 down is different to 0-0 and we really struggled.  I was so glad we went in at just 1-0.

We saw Luton find it harder second half into the wind, but they still had an out ball to Adebayo and Morris to relieve lack of territory.  We tried hard, put a lot of effort in, but the bit of quality was missing and we didn’t fashion many chances.  But I agree our fitness is good, we kept going.  That’s a bonus.

Luton weren’t hanging on in terms of a siege from us, but they were getting panicky, as were their fans…and time wasting hugely, cynical fouls, etc.  I hope Sam Bell learns to be a bit smarter when he’s gonna get whacked…either make sure you buy the foul or get a pointy elbow in the way (not a flailing one, just use them to protect you and make the opponent think twice).

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22 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Agree.  We started appallingly.  Poor decision making.  This is not an excuse, but appeared (on telly) that we were playing into a strongish wind and just couldn’t clear our lines with a long ball, whilst getting heavily pressed with the short stuff…it just grew into a catalogue of errors, poor decisions.  Still a bit of work to do to realise when it’s a case of battening down the hatches and just frustrate your opponents.

But the game plan when you’re 1-0 down is different to 0-0 and we really struggled.  I was so glad we went in at just 1-0.

We saw Luton find it harder second half into the wind, but they still had an out ball to Adebayo and Morris to relieve lack of territory.  We tried hard, put a lot of effort in, but the bit of quality was missing and we didn’t fashion many chances.  But I agree our fitness is good, we kept going.  That’s a bonus.

Luton weren’t hanging on in terms of a siege from us, but they were getting panicky, as were their fans…and time wasting hugely, cynical fouls, etc.  I hope Sam Bell learns to be a bit smarter when he’s gonna get whacked…either make sure you buy the foul or get a pointy elbow in the way (not a flailing one, just use them to protect you and make the opponent think twice).

I wasn’t particularly aware of the wind Dave, either in the ground or outside. The rain was pretty unpleasant at times. I felt we just struggled with their pace and closing down and made rushed, poor decisions. Their game is quite high tempo and maybe that was a reason for them easing off second half - that and the fact that as you say our fitness is improving. 

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On TV it had a feel of non league.

The small ground, the odd camera position, the camera man or woman wiping the lens every 5 mins, the clear sound of the home coaching staff constantly effin and blindin at their players, the ball apparently being kicked over the stand out of the stadium (?), the bad weather making for a physical long ball match, the weird stands with weird advertising boards. Remind you of anywhere else?

Through the smeared lens the pitch looked fine which is something I suppose. 

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We seemed reluctant to boot it until we conceded a goal by giving the ball away. They were fitter stronger and faster and clearly wanted it more than our players did…who wanted to play at their own tempo. 

We were pony for the entire game but particularly in the first half. 

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1 hour ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

On TV it had a feel of non league.

The small ground, the odd camera position, the camera man or woman wiping the lens every 5 mins, the clear sound of the home coaching staff constantly effin and blindin at their players, the ball apparently being kicked over the stand out of the stadium (?), the bad weather making for a physical long ball match, the weird stands with weird advertising boards. Remind you of anywhere else?

Through the smeared lens the pitch looked fine which is something I suppose. 

Exactly what you want as a player, get in to ‘flow’ and focus on your teams tactics instead of trying to counter the opposition. Don’t worry about anything else other than playing your game, only paying attention to your own groups tactics. That’s one negative I can say about Nige, as in, I expected him to be the same.

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8 hours ago, italian dave said:

Where’s @Olé?

I was there, I honestly couldn’t be arsed with a match report as so little happened I was convinced it was a lot of effort for something no one would read, given that not only did nothing happen first half but even by Kenilworth Road’s standards I had an abysmal view with no depth or visibility of the other end, while even scanning left and right was around a pillar.

I decided pretty quickly that trying to put my limited view of proceedings into words was going to be of no use to anyone and didn’t bother which was in keeping with most of the team on the night and that embarrassing kit. In any case these days it’s a bit of a chore simply for someone to scream in derision that I gave their favourite player a 5 instead of a 6. :whistle2:

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5 hours ago, Olé said:

I was there, I honestly couldn’t be arsed with a match report as so little happened I was convinced it was a lot of effort for something no one would read, given that not only did nothing happen first half but even by Kenilworth Road’s standards I had an abysmal view with no depth or visibility of the other end, while even scanning left and right was around a pillar.

I decided pretty quickly that trying to put my limited view of proceedings into words was going to be of no use to anyone and didn’t bother which was in keeping with most of the team on the night and that embarrassing kit. In any case these days it’s a bit of a chore simply for someone to scream in derision that I gave their favourite player a 5 instead of a 6. :whistle2:

Fair comment Ole! I actually quite enjoyed the first half, but entirely down to enjoyment of watching Luton not City - and as they were kicking towards us we had a better view.

Don’t give up the reports though……always enjoy them after an away game.

And, you would have given anyone as much as a 5??? ?

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