Harry Cornick

[Unan]

8 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said:

With Mehmeti, I can see why we signed him.  I see effort and skill but limited output that we (and he) can maybe address. With Harry Cornick, I can't see anything positive in his play and remain at a loss to understand what our scouts were able to see that I can't.

To be fair, our forwards have not been receiving much support from midfield of late and I have noticed with Cornick that when he gets the ball, there seems to be little on for him in that there is nobody around him getting into space or any easy/obvious passes on.

From a formation perspective, I really don't know what suits us best.  It seems that when we change it, it seems to work, then in a couple of games the other teams work us out, so we may need to keep them guessing and mix it up a bit (even though it's nice to see a settled team and formation in an ideal world).

This season is probably a write off now and we need to concentrate on building something for bext year (probably without Alex Scott but with one or two incoming to improve things).  The frustrating thing is that the next few games would have been so much more exciting had we not thrown away some of the matches we should have got points from and been 8 or 9 more points further up the table.

Massively oversimplifying but he’s an upgrade on Martin, age wise if nothing else, and I assume the scouts must at a minimum believe he can equal Martins output + additional years. I’d say that counts as an upgrade, although arguably not much of one. However, we are where we are, we won’t be signing a top Championship striker, marginal upgrades is what we’re looking at at the moment, and I think, medium term, he will be one. 

Edited March 22, 2023 by Marcus Aurelius

[spudski]

31 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Whether it is right or not, it's life and they have to just focus on the game. And that's what the really successful players and managers do.

Lots of us have jobs where our work is on show to the public and we might get unfair or OTT criticism from people not particularly qualified to pass judgement. Football is more immediate, more visceral, than most disciplines, but 'twas ever thus.

The growing of a thick skin is essential for development. 

I don't disagree with you regarding it's essential to overcome the nerves and focus.

My point being...is that as fans it's easy to be flippant and think it's easy to overcome. 

Whilst we all at some time have focus on us in the work place...we don't have thousands screaming for your blood if you under perform.

Like I said in my original post, imo, it's the most over looked thing that pros need to overcome. 

[Red-Robbo]

2 minutes ago, spudski said:

I don't disagree with you regarding it's essential to overcome the nerves and focus.

My point being...is that as fans it's easy to be flippant and think it's easy to overcome. 

Whilst we all at some time have focus on us in the work place...we don't have thousands screaming for your blood if you under perform.

Like I said in my original post, imo, it's the most over looked thing that pros need to overcome. 

 

I agree. Mental toughness is just as important as physical toughness. 

[Pheasant plucker]

I think, something that has been overlooked when Harry was signed is, that (and I'm pretty sure I didn't dream this!)  NP said that (me paraphrasing) we look for value in players - we try to see things other teams have missed about players, and to coach them to be able to do a "different" role than they may be used to. This means we can hopefully afford to have a player playing in a posistion we may not be able to afford, at the time, otherwise (sorry, hope that makes sense). I therefore  believe Harry has been bought to play a different role than he was at LTFC, this would have worked better if, as intended, he was bought in the summer, and behind closed doors, and friendlies, coached to his new role. I agree he is struggling, and is not the player we want him to be at present...but he's not as bad as some are portraying. He's just learning "on the job" so-to speak, getting invaluble minutes with the team. Please bear this in mind when judging him. He may indeed turn out not to be what we need, but he's obviously giving his best out there, and that's all we can ask, surely? 

If it doesn't work out, he'll move on...thats the nature of his chosen profession, but he's doing all this infront of 20k crowds most weeks. I don't bloody envy him (even on his wage, I couldn't do it), and fair play to him for taking up the challenge.

Best of luck Harry!

 

Edited March 23, 2023 by Pheasant plucker
Tried to make it make more sense

[phantom]

I am amazed that so many people have written this chap off already

He's just had a massive upheavel in his personal life moving over to the area, he also has a new employer - any of us would struggle with that alone

He's clearly raw in talent and with many other players in our squad in time their quality has improved.

At the end of the day he is OUR player and needs our support to help him raise his game, those giving him any kind of negative reaction are certainly not helping the player or the club, get behind the lad - wait until he's settled into our style of play and give him as many games as possible the rest of this season, and then with a pre-season behind him I am sure those that scouted him etc will show why he was brought to Bristol City

[And Its Smith]

Some boos today when his named got called out as he came on for Conway.  Incredibly shit support from those fans 

[Numero Uno]

14 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Some boos today when his named got called out as he came on for Conway.  Incredibly shit support from those fans 

When somebody new to the club is struggling to find his feet you have to be a bit of a simpleton to boo them when they come on. The same people would not realise that 60 minutes for Conway barring injuries to others would most likely have been decided before the game.

Edited April 1, 2023 by Numero Uno

[Son of Fred]

14 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Some boos today when his named got called out as he came on for Conway.  Incredibly shit support from those fans 

I'm firmly in the jury very much being out with Cornick,to say the least -

But to boo the bloke??

F@rkin ridiculous.. embarrassing.

[bexhill reds]

1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

When somebody new to the club is struggling to find his feet you have to be a bit of a simpleton to boo them when they come on. The same people would not realise that 60 minutes for Conway barring injuries to others would most likely have been decided before the game.

Conway was only ever going to do 60 mins, confirmed on Robins TV

[Northern Red]

Not a surprise, sadly. Wouldn't be the first time this season.

[BCFCGav]

Muppets. They’ll deny ever doing it when he comes good.

[Port Said Red]

Played well when he came on, got stuck in helped in the press, he'll be fine as long as ******* **** off and find somebody else to abuse. Why does there always have to be one target for them?

[Numero Uno]

Just now, Port Said Red said:

Played well when he came on, got stuck in helped in the press, he'll be fine as long as ******* **** off and find somebody else to abuse. Why does there always have to be one target for them?

I’d like to see one of the whoppers come on here and justify booing the bloke.

[Northern Red]

1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

I’d like to see one of the whoppers come on here and justify booing the bloke.

As said, if anyone on here was doing it they'd just deny it happened.

[GrahamC]

2 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Played well when he came on, got stuck in helped in the press, he'll be fine as long as ******* **** off and find somebody else to abuse. Why does there always have to be one target for them?

It’s really sad, isn’t it?

I found Mehmeti really frustrating today, trying to be far too over elaborate & attempting to beat one man too many.

It would never enter my head to boo him though, how would that help anyone?

[richyy66]

Didn't think Cornick looked to bad when he came on. Was willing to put a shift in. Patience is the key. Sure he will become an important squad player next season

[AppyDAZE]

I wonder if they'd have booed if that volley would have gone just the other side of the post?

These people aren't just embarrassing, they must be pig shit thick too

 

 

[Port Said Red]

2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

It’s really sad, isn’t it?

I found Mehmeti really frustrating today, trying to be far too over elaborate & attempting to beat one man too many.

It would never enter my head to boo him though, how would that help anyone?

I struggle to understand why they think a footballer's life is any different to their own. In any walk of life when you change jobs it's always difficult initially, even if your new job is the same skillset as your old one, you need to learn the dynamics of the company, learn the new processes and get to know how others work around you. Add to that, moving to a new part of the country and you have lots of potential distractions from your actual job.

Mehmeti's issue is slightly different I think, he sounds incredibly driven and he wants to get to the top, yesterday, I think he is just trying too hard and overthinking things.

Hopefully after the summer they will have the chance to come to terms with where they are and what they need to do, until then the boo boys can **** off, we drowned out the "anti-Vyners" let's do the same with the Cornick booers.

[GrahamC]

Just now, Port Said Red said:

I struggle to understand why they think a footballer's life is any different to their own. In any walk of life when you change jobs it's always difficult initially, even if your new job is the same skillset as your old one, you need to learn the dynamics of the company, learn the new processes and get to know how others work around you. Add to that, moving to a new part of the country and you have lots of potential distractions from your actual job.

Mehmeti's issue is slightly different I think, he sounds incredibly driven and he wants to get to the top, yesterday, I think he is just trying too hard and overthinking things.

Hopefully after the summer they will have the chance to come to terms with where they are and what they need to do, until then the boo boys can **** off, we drowned out the "anti-Vyners" let's do the same with the Cornick booers.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not concerned about Mehmeti, he’s 22 & still learning.

Really just making your point, how does anyone think that helps the situation?

Is the bloke not trying? Clearly he is, so it is simply baffling.

[Guest]

Just logged on to have a moan about this. To boo a city player is an absolute disgrace, thought he done well when he came on, he’s an intelligent player who puts himself about. Give the lad a chance. 

[Northern Red]

It'll be the same ones who were booing a kid on his debut. They all deny that happened too.

[Jeez]

 

Didn’t hear the boo’s from the Lansdown  but if true that’s disappointing whatever your opinion.

His rapid track back when they were 2 on 1 was impressive & was so close to that volley going in for the winner. 

Better today just don’t think anyone is entirely sure what his role is yet.

 

[joe jordans teeth]

33 minutes ago, richyy66 said:

Didn't think Cornick looked to bad when he came on. Was willing to put a shift in. Patience is the key. Sure he will become an important squad player next season

I will not slag a player off but the willingness to put a shift in should be a given 

[Red-Robbo]

Heard one bloke booing, but that was it.  Rather daft. It was clear why Conway wasn't going to be risked for more than an hour on his return.

I didn't think Cornick played too badly today, but I'm less confident than others that he'll "come good next season".  He may eventually score one or two, but at the moment, he's not looking like he'll be what we want as a first-choice striker.

Time will tell. Let's see how he's fitting in to a different-looking side late summer/early autumn. 

[2015]

Who the **** boo's one of our own players? Whatever you think of them, that's pathetic behaviour

[Super]

7 minutes ago, 2015 said:

Who the **** boo's one of our own players? Whatever you think of them, that's pathetic behaviour

It wasn't that many not Russell Osman numbers! Still moronic though.

[redkev]

Done fine when he come on I thought 

[sephjnr]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

It’s really sad, isn’t it?

I found Mehmeti really frustrating today, trying to be far too over elaborate & attempting to beat one man too many.

It would never enter my head to boo him though, how would that help anyone?

Considering that for large stretches of several seasons we've been too hesitant to beat *any player* straight-in-front and insist on playing around, Mehmeti has been one of the freshest breaths of air in some time. I really hope he doesn't dial it back too far.

Edited April 1, 2023 by sephjnr

[redsocks]

Sorry to say Harry's a bag of shite a bad signing.hope he improves.to me he brings nothing to the team.

As for today 2 poor sides.reading probably the worst side we have played at home this season.lets hope we have enough points.

[David Brent]

17 minutes ago, redsocks said:

Sorry to say Harry's a bag of shite a bad signing.hope he improves.to me he brings nothing to the team.

Nonsense.

[David Brent]

11 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

Fun that the OTT criticism, abuse and wetherspoons MNF punditry on here and social media has now transitioned to the stadium. 

I was assured it wouldn't. 

What fun.

Such a shame. It’s already forced me away from the club’s social media. I thought Ashton Gate was an escape. 

It’s mostly positive and knowledgable on here in comparison tbf 

[bcfcredandwhite]

I’ve never booed a city player in my life. Not even the likes of Diony. 
Groan when something goes wrong yes, but targeted booing no. 
I’d rather encourage the players than shoot them down. 

[glynriley]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

It’s really sad, isn’t it?

I found Mehmeti really frustrating today, trying to be far too over elaborate & attempting to beat one man too many.

It would never enter my head to boo him though, how would that help anyone?

Agree. His end product currently is very poor. Hopefully a few more games and a decent pre season will do him the world of good. 

[Port Said Red]

41 minutes ago, redsocks said:

Sorry to say Harry's a bag of shite a bad signing.hope he improves.to me he brings nothing to the team.

As for today 2 poor sides.reading probably the worst side we have played at home this season.lets hope we have enough points.

Everyone entitled to their own opinion and all that, but that's a shockingly poor post.

[Silvio Dante]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

It’s really sad, isn’t it?

I found Mehmeti really frustrating today, trying to be far too over elaborate & attempting to beat one man too many.

It would never enter my head to boo him though, how would that help anyone?

I said this about Anis after game one. He has a tendency to run into traffic and not get his head up - undoubted ability, but a bit too much towards “playground footballer” for me at present. I’m only concerned if we get to next season and he’s still the same

1 hour ago, Port Said Red said:

I struggle to understand why they think a footballer's life is any different to their own. In any walk of life when you change jobs it's always difficult initially, even if your new job is the same skillset as your old one, you need to learn the dynamics of the company, learn the new processes and get to know how others work around you. Add to that, moving to a new part of the country and you have lots of potential distractions from your actual job.

Mehmeti's issue is slightly different I think, he sounds incredibly driven and he wants to get to the top, yesterday, I think he is just trying too hard and overthinking things.

Hopefully after the summer they will have the chance to come to terms with where they are and what they need to do, until then the boo boys can **** off, we drowned out the "anti-Vyners" let's do the same with the Cornick booers.

I actually (bizarrely) think Anis lacked confidence today - the confidence to go early and pull the trigger. The one that sticks out is about ten minutes to go when Andi squared it (hard) to him. The move was to shift it onto left foot and fire, but took too long. His shots when he did have them were tame. Might be overthinking as you say, but I think there is a degree of self doubt - he’s clearly not finding it as easy at this level as he did at L1, but hopefully that’s a short term thing.

[KeepUpLino]

11 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Everyone entitled to their own opinion and all that, but that's a shockingly poor post.

Thick as pig shit… 

[redsocks]

Ok what has he brought to Bristol city so far.

[cidered abroad]

If he was so terrible, he wouldn't have made so many appearances at Luton.

He is clearly not 100% match fit, but there were some signs today of what he can do.

[Kolsch]

Disgrace the reaction he got today. Didn’t think he did too bad, but even if he was abysmal we still shouldn’t boo players in a red shirt ever.

[Guest]

52 minutes ago, redsocks said:

Ok what has he brought to Bristol city so far.

So what your saying is, because in your opinion he hasn’t “brought” anything to the club, that warrants his own fans booing him?

[kiwicolin]

On 15/03/2023 at 22:43, old_eastender said:

Up to now, reinforced by poor sub appearances, wondering why we signed a near 28 year old forward, with a goal record in the Championship of just 1 in every 5 or 6 games. Could not watch tonight's game, so wondering how do he do having been given his 1st start?

Give him time. A pre season and a fitter player,  he can become good for us. 

[lenred]

4 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

Some boos today when his named got called out as he came on for Conway.  Incredibly shit support from those fans 

Complete and utter ‘ing embarrassment. Shame on those booing our own player who is  trying to settle in at a new club and new environment.   Utterly pathetic.   

Edited April 1, 2023 by lenred

[BS13 Robin]

3 hours ago, redsocks said:

Sorry to say Harry's a bag of shite a bad signing.hope he improves.to me he brings nothing to the team.

As for today 2 poor sides.reading probably the worst side we have played at home this season.lets hope we have enough points.

I think you need to lay off the alcohol to be honest,what a pathetic post!

[Red-Robbo]

3 hours ago, Kolsch said:

Disgrace the reaction he got today. Didn’t think he did too bad, but even if he was abysmal we still shouldn’t boo players in a red shirt ever.

 

Was there a lot of booing?  I can honestly say I didn't hear it.

Maybe I'm going deaf. 

[petehinton]

Did well when he came on. Almost scored a Beauty with the last kick. He’s going to make a lot of ‘fans’ look very stupid next season. 
 

Fair amount of booing by me in the south stand. Total embarrassment. But I’m sure they’re proper fans who probably also demand refunds after bad performances. 

[robinforlife2]

3 hours ago, petehinton said:

Did well when he came on. Almost scored a Beauty with the last kick. He’s going to make a lot of ‘fans’ look very stupid next season. 
 

Fair amount of booing by me in the south stand. Total embarrassment. But I’m sure they’re proper fans who probably also demand refunds after bad performances. 

Ohhhhh it’s all coming out now Pete! The chief booer are we 

[CiderJar]

This goes in, instant hero.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxYWv1qjTwpgqtuh8bmgvvyVGPu1WfjK10

 

 

[Numero Uno]

5 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Was there a lot of booing?  I can honestly say I didn't hear it.

Maybe I'm going deaf. 

Shouldn’t be ANY. The amount is a complete irrelevance: Not loads but enough for people to notice, including the player himself and manager no doubt.

[Jacki]

I didn’t hear any booing when he came on but don’t doubt it happened. Some of our ‘fans’ have history where this kind of thing is concerned, and it’s as depressing as it is predictable. Quite what these people think they’re helping when they act like that is beyond me. Coming on to that kind of reception when you’re lacking in confidence anyway must be an absolute nightmare. What is the point? 

I thought Cornick did ok when he came on yesterday. He offered plenty of energy, pressed well and looked after the ball as well as I’ve seen him so since joining us. I’ve seen comments on Twitter about him ‘stealing a living’ and the like and I just see that as embarrassing. He’ll continue to get better, if these morons haven’t hounded him out by then, and when he does I hope they give him the credit he deserves. 

[Kingswood Robin]

Yesterday was the best I've seen him play for us since signing. He also operates in an area where our play looks least defined. We don't have that purpose/telepathy in the final third. That needs to evolve when Scott and others leave and new players come in, hopefully Cornick will play a part in that.  

[city1983]

13 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said:

Yesterday was the best I've seen him play for us since signing. He also operates in an area where our play looks least defined. We don't have that purpose/telepathy in the final third. That needs to evolve when Scott and others leave and new players come in, hopefully Cornick will play a part in that.  

Yeah I thought he looked decent enough yesterday, I struggle to think of anything he did wrong.

weimann was out for a while and is struggling for form yet gets a completely free pass. He was woeful yesterday and if Cornick put in that performance would have been given absolute pelters

Cornick has barely played this season and is slowly finding his feet, and I think just needs a goal to get a bit of a spring in his step. For me he offered more than both weimann and wells yesterday in just 30 minutes.

[Port Said Red]

Who knew he had a decent long throw on him too? That could be a useful option once we have a bit of height back in the team.

[TV Tom]

We really do have some moronic fans

[The Gasbuster]

55 minutes ago, city1983 said:

Yeah I thought he looked decent enough yesterday, I struggle to think of anything he did wrong.

weimann was out for a while and is struggling for form yet gets a completely free pass. He was woeful yesterday and if Cornick put in that performance would have been given absolute pelters

Cornick has barely played this season and is slowly finding his feet, and I think just needs a goal to get a bit of a spring in his step. For me he offered more than both weimann and wells yesterday in just 30 minutes.

Others have said he played well yesterday, but I am with you, I thought he was dreadful yesterday.

1 hour ago, Kingswood Robin said:

Yesterday was the best I've seen him play for us since signing. He also operates in an area where our play looks least defined. We don't have that purpose/telepathy in the final third. That needs to evolve when Scott and others leave and new players come in, hopefully Cornick will play a part in that.  

Yep, agree with this.

[sh1t_ref_again]

2 hours ago, Jacki said:

I didn’t hear any booing when he came on but don’t doubt it happened. Some of our ‘fans’ have history where this kind of thing is concerned, and it’s as depressing as it is predictable. Quite what these people think they’re helping when they act like that is beyond me. Coming on to that kind of reception when you’re lacking in confidence anyway must be an absolute nightmare. What is the point? 

I thought Cornick did ok when he came on yesterday. He offered plenty of energy, pressed well and looked after the ball as well as I’ve seen him so since joining us. I’ve seen comments on Twitter about him ‘stealing a living’ and the like and I just see that as embarrassing. He’ll continue to get better, if these morons haven’t hounded him out by then, and when he does I hope they give him the credit he deserves. 

I guess these are comments by the entitled Twitter young ones, which the only thing lower than their age is their IQ

[Port Said Red]

7 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

I guess these are comments by the entitled Twitter young ones, which the only thing lower than their age is their IQ

I don't think young ones use "Twittah" anymore, too much like writing, innit? It's all "Insta", and Tiktok now mate.

[Cityboy1954]

On 22/03/2023 at 09:29, Davefevs said:

And that was the exact thrust of my reply to RedRobbo, that all the forwards are struggling a bit at the mo’.

So many off their game at the moment wells weinmann Dasilva aswell as cornick nice,to see Tommy back though .

[Red-Robbo]

2 hours ago, city1983 said:

Yeah I thought he looked decent enough yesterday, I struggle to think of anything he did wrong.

weimann was out for a while and is struggling for form yet gets a completely free pass. He was woeful yesterday and if Cornick put in that performance would have been given absolute pelters

Cornick has barely played this season and is slowly finding his feet, and I think just needs a goal to get a bit of a spring in his step. For me he offered more than both weimann and wells yesterday in just 30 minutes.

 

I thought Weimann was quite a threat in the first half but just faded out of the game. He seems to have lost his 90 minutes zip. 

Cornick has now had 420 minutes for us, so I'd not say "hardly played" for us. He also played in 22 matches this season for Luton - and was playing for them the week before he joined us, but I agree he didn't really do anything wrong. I disagree that he looked better than other forwards. 

Given Conway's time out, it made sense to rest him after an hour, but I think - had we been able to play Tommy for the full 90 minutes - that he might've tucked away some of those late chances.

C'est la vie!

[Swede]

As many have said, he's gone through a massive upheaval professionally and domestically moving from one club to another. Fans tend to forget that players are human too.

Maybe he was settled at Luton but starting to slip down the pecking order so this opportunity came up & thinking of furthering his career he made the move. He'll be better when he gets that first goal. He just needs to feel a part of this club. He just needs the support of everyone.

Booing him is senseless and so negative, like that's meant to spur him on? With that sort of support they need to go to Chernobyl. Some people are so thick.

[Swede]

I thought he contributed more when he came on, he's getting better. What he needs is a good pre season. 

[exAtyeoMax]

7 hours ago, CiderJar said:

This goes in, instant hero.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxYWv1qjTwpgqtuh8bmgvvyVGPu1WfjK10

 

 

Wow looks even better from that angle! I only saw the ball coming towards me. 

[Mr Hankey]

16 hours ago, Kolsch said:

Disgrace the reaction he got today. Didn’t think he did too bad, but even if he was abysmal we still shouldn’t boo players in a red shirt ever.

Yep, couldnt believe it when i heard that. We certainly have a lot of idiotic fans, not too suprising that we aren’t a particularly well liked club.

[CiderJar]

1 hour ago, Swede said:

With that sort of support they need to go to Chernobyl. 

I am not understand?

[Red-Robbo]

18 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said:

Yep, couldnt believe it when i heard that. We certainly have a lot of idiotic fans, not too suprising that we aren’t a particularly well liked club.

 

Do you honestly think other clubs don't have fans that have, on occasion, booed their own players?

I'm not saying it was justified yesterday, but it was from a tiny number of people at most. Sitting totally centrally in the Dolman I heard one, maybe there were a few more elsewhere. 

There are idiots that follow ever club. At certain clubs - for example a neighbouring one - they seem to make up the majority.  

[Mr Hankey]

33 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Do you honestly think other clubs don't have fans that have, on occasion, booed their own players?

I'm not saying it was justified yesterday, but it was from a tiny number of people at most. Sitting totally centrally in the Dolman I heard one, maybe there were a few more elsewhere. 

There are idiots that follow ever club. At certain clubs - for example a neighbouring one - they seem to make up the majority.  

Of course every fans have their idiots, however i tend to read the opponents forums the day before we play them & almost every single time they have nothing good to say about us….our team perhaps, but certainly not our fans, which i think is justifiable, only last season every time there was an opposition corner there were cans of Thatchers flying at the players!

I was in the South Stand and the booing was noticable from there.

For what its worth, i dont think many other teams fans would boo their own player after only having a handful of games, i dont think Diony or Kent even got that!

[Numero Uno]

14 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said:

Of course every fans have their idiots, however i tend to read the opponents forums the day before we play them & almost every single time they have nothing good to say about us….our team perhaps, but certainly not our fans, which i think is justifiable, only last season every time there was an opposition corner there were cans of Thatchers flying at the players!

I was in the South Stand and the booing was noticable from there.

For what its worth, i dont think many other teams fans would boo their own player after only having a handful of games, i dont think Diony or Kent even got that!

I wouldn’t worry too much what Reading fans say about us notwithstanding a minority of idiots booing Cornick. The worst fanbase in the division by a mile.

[Offside]

I thought Cornick played well yesterday. He put himself about and was involved - exactly what’s needed from subs. 

[Red-Robbo]

18 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said:

Of course every fans have their idiots, however i tend to read the opponents forums the day before we play them & almost every single time they have nothing good to say about us….our team perhaps, but certainly not our fans, which i think is justifiable, only last season every time there was an opposition corner there were cans of Thatchers flying at the players!

I was in the South Stand and the booing was noticable from there.

For what its worth, i dont think many other teams fans would boo their own player after only having a handful of games, i dont think Diony or Kent even got that!

 

Maybe there are more idiots in the SS? 

But, to tackle your points: You think Kent and Diony were booed before they started playing?  They didn't work out here, for different reasons, and even Stevie Wonder could see that, but my memory was more of fan frustration than mass booing. And clubs and managers do not base their decisions on players on crowd reaction. Do you think Pearson would ever think to himself "I cannot play Cornick. There are about 20 people who'll boo him and someone might be unfair on Twitter." No, he is his own man and he makes his own mind up on whether a player should get game time.

Re: the club. I've travelled the world and all over the UK and where I find a fellow fan, I talk to them about football.  I've never encountered any negative impression of Bristol City or its fans. Some fans of more successful clubs, usually plastic fans, will say stuff like "why do you wanna support them?" or "poor you", but that's just the bantz you expect from the glory hunting fraternity. The reaction is pretty good and many recount pleasant visits to Ashton Gate and Bristol in general.

Football forums are a different box of cheese, and you'll always find someone with an axe to grind willing to sound off. Just look at me on the Plymouth thread! What you write on them, doesn't necessarily reflect what you think in the flesh - and I know a couple of good guys who support Argyle.  Hell, I have Gas-supporting friends, if it comes to that. 

As for booing their own players, I've lived outside Bristol since childhood and in many different places and have stood on the home terraces and heard Wimbledon, Chelsea, Spurs, Perugia, Southampton and Philadelphia Union fans boo their own players. You may recall the negative reaction from Reading fans to their double substitution yesterday.  It happens. It happens everywhere.

FWIW I agree with those that say it's unhelpful to the individual and the team, and also that it's too early to pass judgement on Cornick. If you condensed all his subs appearances together with the two starts, he has played less than 5 games with us. 

Ultimately, players' own performances are the only thing that will win over the doubters. If Cornick continues to play as he did yesterday, the boos- such that they were - will be silenced.

 

[Mr Hankey]

17 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Maybe there are more idiots in the SS? 

But, to tackle your points: You think Kent and Diony were booed before they started playing?  They didn't work out here, for different reasons, and even Stevie Wonder could see that, but my memory was more of fan frustration than mass booing. And clubs and managers do not base their decisions on players on crowd reaction. Do you think Pearson would ever think to himself "I cannot play Cornick. There are about 20 people who'll boo him and someone might be unfair on Twitter." No, he is his own man and he makes his own mind up on whether a player should get game time.

 

Think you have got the wrong end of the stick here fella……i said i don’t recall Kent or Diony ever getting booed by the fans, i could be wrong, but i certainly dont recall either getting booed when being subbed off or subbed on.

Where did i mention that i think Pearson wouldnt consider playing Cornick due to crowd reaction? All im saying is i thought that it was wrong to boo him, dont get me wrong, i think he has been crap so far and really dont see him working out here, but hopefully im wrong. I certainly dont think Pearson will base anything off of the crowds reaction.

Regarding City fans, i do think we have a large moronic following, my mind wont change on that i’m afraid!

[Red-Robbo]

27 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said:

 

Regarding City fans, i do think we have a large moronic following, my mind wont change on that i’m afraid!

 

No more than any other club IMO.  There is nothing especially stupid or especially clever about City fans.