I don’t think the Luton chairman like us

[Silvio Dante]

Programme notes from last night. Dripping with bitterness. 
 

I’d also be bitter and pissed off if I lived in Luton mind.

 

[Northern Red]

How very unprofessional.

[HoldenBall]

What a very strange club Luton are, their fans too. They’re having a little honey moon period at the moment but with their terrible infrastructure and small fanbase it won’t last. 

[Robbored]

I can’t see anything unprofessional in that article - he’s saying it as it is. No criticism of us at all.

[exAtyeoMax]

23 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Programme notes from last night. Dripping with bitterness. 
 

I’d also be bitter and pissed off if I lived in Luton mind.

 

Layout is a bit shit too. 

[Major Isewater]

3 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Layout is a bit shit too. 

Done on his Amstrad by the looks of things. 

[Unan]

A bit of a nibble, not much of one, although surprised the chairman didn’t rise above it. Luton are doing well at the moment, fair play to the club. Thought the fans acted pretty small time / tinpottery, we’re another club that’s done a lot of nothing, did we act the same way when we got to the Championship play off final? I don’t remember so, I don’t overly blame them mind, but surprised to see the vilification of Cornick when you’re 4th and winning, they seemed genuinely angry/bitter.

Edited March 16, 2023 by Marcus Aurelius

[cidercity1987]

Wait until we grab their next out of contract player who isn't quite good enough for the parachute clubs

[Barrs Court Red]

Another ex conference club with a chip on their shoulder.  

[GrahamC]

38 minutes ago, HoldenBall said:

What a very strange club Luton are, their fans too. They’re having a little honey moon period at the moment but with their terrible infrastructure and small fanbase it won’t last. 

They are remarkably successful at recruitment but a lot of their supporters seem to be suffering from delusions of grandeur.

They are punching above their weight but why they remain so bitter about the eternal truth that players will go elsewhere for better wages is baffling.

They certainly lack class, but if you’ve employed Nathan Jones twice that’s not exactly a surprise.

[Open End Numb Legs]

In poor taste. About as poor as ripping a shirt off an opponent or getting booked for rugby tackling a keeper as he tries to launch a quick break.

Maybe it was the salt that the camera man was wiping off the lens during the game last night.

[BigAl&Toby]

That’s chairmen for you. Compare that with the reception Harry Cornick got from the Luton fans as he walked off at the end.

Mind you Cornick last night was next to ******* useless.

[Port Said Red]

In what way have we been "giving it a go" this season? Our accounts are showing that we have been cutting back and consolidating in all areas. 

Tell the *** to mind his own business and build his club the ground he promised 3 seasons ago....... Why does that sound familiar?

[Kodjias Wrist]

Weird over the years how salty fans and owners get about ex players leaving. Seeing the likes of Barnsley, Rovers, Luton cry when they lose their players.

[Taz]

Just a little bitter then....

League table doesn't lie, they've been better than us last season and this, but some of their "better" players have still signed on with us - if you can't pay the going rate for a player in demand, then don't moan about it. That's like us moaning and being salty because someone below us has paid £2k a week more for a player of ours. That's football, it's how it works.

They do seem to think they're a bit above everyone else though, just waiting for the next fall down the leagues from them.

[GrahamC]

36 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

In what way have we been "giving it a go" this season? Our accounts are showing that we have been cutting back and consolidating in all areas. 

Tell the *** to mind his own business and build his club the ground he promised 3 seasons ago....... Why does that sound familiar?

This is the lazy narrative (all over social media) that conflates our latest accounts with what is actually now on the pitch.

Losing Palmer, Bentley, Martin etc, getting Wells to sign a much reduced new deal completely passes them by.

I’d be very interested to know the wage bill of the 11 who finished last night’s game, Dasilva aside I reckon it is bottom half in the Championship.

[W-S-M Seagull]

They are doing incredibly well at the moment. Why not just enjoy that? Especially considering where they've come from? The whole club should be buzzing but instead they are just very bitter and angry. Strange behaviour. 

[Silvio Dante]

13 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

This is the lazy narrative (all over social media) that conflates our latest accounts with what is actually now on the pitch.

Losing Palmer, Bentley, Martin etc, getting Wells to sign a much reduced new deal completely passes them by.

I’d be very interested to know the wage bill of the 11 who finished last night’s game, Dasilva aside I reckon it is bottom half in the Championship.

That was the bit that first stuck out for me. The way he’d written it (no doubted coloured by the fact we took Naismith) was that this season we’d been throwing money at things - when the complete opposite is true. It allows them though to portray themselves as the plucky underdog- but on the wages front I’d bet that Marvellous Nakamba was the highest paid player out there by a street, and they’ll be funding all of that in his loan spell.

Add in the comments specifically about Naismith and the bit about “you beat us but it was our worst performance of the season” (sic) then it just comes across as both bitter and unprofessional. 

[Portland Bill]

Why are a lot of our fans paranoid, I can’t see anything untoward in what he says. 

[Super]

2 minutes ago, Portland Bill said:

Why are a lot of our fans paranoid, I can’t see anything untoward in what he says. 

I'm with you nothing in that for me.

[cidered abroad]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

I can’t see anything unprofessional in that article - he’s saying it as it is. No criticism of us at all.

I'm not surprised that you see nothing amiss with that article. It's full of bitterness if you can read between the lines. Chairmen should be more graceful than that.

And for the rest of City fans. This is a club that has spent a lot longer in the top league since the war and been to cup finals, not Mickey Mouse ones, than us.

They play a horrible style, but effective. Are well trained in the darker side of things will probably be in the play offs for the second year in a row. If they did go up, they would (dis)grace the Prem for quality of football but would be £100 million better off in one season.

While our massive club, with a superb stadium instead of some people's back yards, will still be stuck in the Championship.

PS. At least our owner has not knowingly cheated the FFP rules like Luton did on their way out of the League a few years ago. And he had the decency to get rid of the worm who did.

Edited March 16, 2023 by cidered abroad

[DaveF]

Wow our fans are sensitive aren't they? Can't see anything wrong with what he's written to be honest...

[Portland Bill]

23 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Wow our fans are sensitive aren't they? Can't see anything wrong with what he's written to be honest...

Yeah, just imagine if he had called us ‘Bristol’ !!.

[Super]

31 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

I'm not surprised that you see nothing amiss with that article. It's full of bitterness if you can read between the lines. Chairmen should be more graceful than that.

And for the rest of City fans. This is a club that has spent a lot longer in the top league since the war and been to cup finals, not Mickey Mouse ones, than us.

They play a horrible style, but effective. Are well trained in the darker side of things will probably be in the play offs for the second year in a row. If they did go up, they would (dis)grace the Prem for quality of football but would be £100 million better off in one season.

While our massive club, with a superb stadium instead of some people's back yards, will still be stuck in the Championship.

PS. At least our owner has not knowingly cheated the FFP rules like Luton did on their way out of the League a few years ago. And he had the decency to get rid of the worm who did.

What a bizarre rant. 

[Bris Red]

2 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Programme notes from last night. Dripping with bitterness. 
 

I’d also be bitter and pissed off if I lived in Luton mind.

 

As others have said with their terrible facilities and League 1 fanbase at best it is hard to see Luton sustaining their current trajectory. 

You can only go so far on home gates of 7 thousand and a stadium that is horrendously outdated.

We all know where we are heading as a club and we have finally started to lay the foundations to not only reach the Premier league but having a decent chance of staying there if and when we finally do it. Luton on the other hand need serious investment off the pitch and about 12 thousand more home fans through the turnstiles each week to truly be able to sustain themselves at this level or the level above IMO, if they don’t go up this season i would surprised to see them finish above us next season in the championship..
 

 

Edited March 16, 2023 by Bris Red

[CiderJar]

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

That was the bit that first stuck out for me. The way he’d written it (no doubted coloured by the fact we took Naismith) was that this season we’d been throwing money at things - when the complete opposite is true. It allows them though to portray themselves as the plucky underdog- but on the wages front I’d bet that Marvellous Nakamba was the highest paid player out there by a street, and they’ll be funding all of that in his loan spell.

Add in the comments specifically about Naismith and the bit about “you beat us but it was our worst performance of the season” (sic) then it just comes across as both bitter and unprofessional. 

Yes. I'm amazed that a chairman does not realise that released accounts are generally for the season before the one we are currently in. He's not really got his finger on the pulse has he?

[hollydog]

12 minutes ago, Bris Red said:

As others have said with their terrible facilities and League 1 fanbase at best it is hard to see Luton sustaining their current trajectory. 

You can only go so far on home gates of 7 thousand and a stadium that is horrendously outdated.

We all know where we are heading as a club and we have finally started to lay the foundations to not only reach the Premier league but having a decent chance of staying there if and when we finally do it. Luton on the other hand need serious investment off the pitch and about 12 thousand more home fans through the turnstiles each week to truly be able to sustain themselves at this level or the level above IMO, if they don’t go up this season i would surprised to see them finish above us next season in the championship..
 

 

Tbf, they have just secured planning permission for a new £17.5k capacity ground and I shudder a little at your final remark given that so many on here said the same when we signed Naismith! 
But Chairman’s remarks out of order.

[bcfc01]

I can see why some see it as a bit unprofessional, but it just reads as an ill educated ramble to me which shouldn't be taken seriously.

They're a tinpot little outfit punching well above their weight and fair play to them for doing it over two seasons, but I really can't see them maintaining it given their current lack of infrastructure and the fact that their better players will always move on to better/bigger clubs paying more money, regardless of where they are in the league.

The fact they don't recognise it is a bit weird, but they're not alone in that - we have close noisy neighbours who are equally tinpot with a lack of self awareness.

 

 

 

 

[Super]

7 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

I can see why some see it as a bit unprofessional, but it just reads as an ill educated ramble to me which shouldn't be taken seriously.

They're a tinpot little outfit punching well above their weight and fair play to them for doing it over two seasons, but I really can't see them maintaining it given their current lack of infrastructure and the fact that their better players will always move on to better/bigger clubs paying more money, regardless of where they are in the league.

The fact they don't recognise it is a bit weird, but they're not alone in that - we have close noisy neighbours who are equally tinpot with a lack of self awareness.

 

 

 

 

In fairness that "tinpot little club" have achieved more than we have over the years.

Edited March 16, 2023 by Super

[bcfc01]

Just now, Super said:

In fairness that "tinpot little club" have achieved more than we have over the years.

Yep, including a trip to the conference.

[italian dave]

1 hour ago, Portland Bill said:

Why are a lot of our fans paranoid, I can’t see anything untoward in what he says. 

 

51 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Wow our fans are sensitive aren't they? Can't see anything wrong with what he's written to be honest...

Agree. I can’t really see what the problem is with it. 

If it’s having a dig at anyone anywhere it seems to me it’s ‘the media’ - presumably local.

If anyone is looking for graceless and bitter then the place to look would be to read some of the comments about Luton on OTIB. 

[Super]

4 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Yep, including a trip to the conference.

Also spent a lot of years in the top league and won a major trophy. 

[bcfc01]

6 minutes ago, Super said:

Also spent a lot of years in the top league and won a major trophy. 

Yep, 35 years ago with a top average attendance of 13k but normally between 9-10k

More lately, five years in the National League and five in League 2. 

Tinpot little outfit.

[Northern Red]

28 minutes ago, CiderJar said:

Yes. I'm amazed that a chairman does not realise that released accounts are generally for the season before the one we are currently in. He's not really got his finger on the pulse has he?

Oh I'm sure he knows full well, but it suits the narrative that he's trying to push.

All a bit odd really.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

Why do we give a damn? I doubt that NP or anyone else at City has lost any sleep. Only on OTIB does anyone care about what the Luton chairman thinks. 

[Super]

9 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Yep, 35 years ago with a top average attendance of 13k but normally between 9-10k

More lately, five years in the National League and five in League 2. 

Tinpot little outfit.

I don't get what your point is. They are a smaller club but have achieved more than a lot of teams. Fair play to them.

[Red-Robbo]

25 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Yep, 35 years ago with a top average attendance of 13k but normally between 9-10k

More lately, five years in the National League and five in League 2. 

Tinpot little outfit.

 

And based in probably Britain's most horrible town.  Seriously, are there any worse? Blackburn? Stevenage? Newport? Wrexham? Mansfield?   It's certainly in the Premier League for grot. 

Edited March 16, 2023 by Red-Robbo

[italian dave]

18 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Yep, 35 years ago with a top average attendance of 13k but normally between 9-10k

More lately, five years in the National League and five in League 2. 

Tinpot little outfit.

But a “tinpot little outfit” who on the pitch were better than us in every single department last night. 

[Super]

7 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

And based in probably the Britain's most horrible town.  Seriously, is there any worse? Blackburn? Stevenage? Newport? Wrexham? Mansfield?   It's certainly in the Premier League for grot. 

Just be grateful Port Talbot aren't in the league 

Edited March 16, 2023 by Super

[bcfc01]

2 minutes ago, italian dave said:

But a “tinpot little outfit” who on the pitch were better than us in every single department last night. 

Agreed.

And so were we when we beat them earlier in the season.

But I don't see what that has to do with my opinion that they are a tinpot little outfit.

[Barrs Court Red]

13 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

And based in probably Britain's most horrible town.  Seriously, are there any worse? Blackburn? Stevenage? Newport? Wrexham? Mansfield?   It's certainly in the Premier League for grot. 

Barrow, and it’s not even close.

[italian dave]

6 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Agreed.

And so were we when we beat them earlier in the season.

But I don't see what that has to do with my opinion that they are a tinpot little outfit.

Just the irony of it coming in a thread that’s about the Luton Chairman’s so say derogatory comments about us. 

[Red-Robbo]

Just now, Barrs Court Red said:

Barrow, and it’s not even close.

Good point. We have a premier league winner.

 

Hall of fame (in my opinion) UK grotty league:

PL Clubs:  Winner - Croydon (Palace) r/up Wolverhampton

Championship:  Winner - Luton r/up Blackpool

L1:  Winner - Barnsley r/up Peterborough

L2:  Winner - Barrow r/up Hartlepool

[Super]

14 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Good point. We have a premier league winner.

 

Hall of fame (in my opinion) UK grotty league:

PL Clubs:  Winner - Croydon (Palace) r/up Wolverhampton

Championship:  Winner - Luton r/up Blackpool

L1:  Winner - Barnsley r/up Peterborough

L2:  Winner - Barrow r/up Hartlepool

Bolton and Huddersfield must have been close!

[Northern Red]

Stoke. The area around Port Vale's ground in particular.

[Guest Rob LTFC]

3 hours ago, GrahamC said:

They are remarkably successful at recruitment but a lot of their supporters seem to be suffering from delusions of grandeur.

They are punching above their weight but why they remain so bitter about the eternal truth that players will go elsewhere for better wages is baffling.

They certainly lack class, but if you’ve employed Nathan Jones twice that’s not exactly a surprise.

Not bitter at all.Regarding Kal,he was great for us but when he left he went about it in the wrong way way saying things like i want to play for the best manager in the league,why say such petty things??? As for Harry,great player on his day but does drift in and out,will always give 100% and a top bloke.Godd luck for the rest of the season.

[Antman]

they were impressive last night in the way they harried and hassled and in those two front guys they have a potent outlet.

We've seen a few clubs actually go up with this urgent, frantic pressing game (Leeds, Brentford)  and it's not entirely out the question that they might make a promotion via the play off's, but those teams were more solidly developed IMO

 

if they did I would enjoy reading about them getting torn a new a.rsehole on a weekly basis....

 

[cidercity1987]

26 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Stoke. The area around Port Vale's ground in particular.

Straight out of the 1970's

[GrahamC]

36 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Stoke. The area around Port Vale's ground in particular.

Stoke is the worst City in Western Europe not just England.

Wouldn’t look out of place in Belarus, absolute shit hole.

Edited March 16, 2023 by GrahamC

[italian dave]

35 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Stoke. The area around Port Vale's ground in particular.

And I give you Middlesbrough.

Quite a lot of Championship contenders, for sure! (Although I agree that the very worst of Stoke is P Vale (Burlsem?)

[southside]

1 hour ago, Northern Red said:

Oh I'm sure he knows full well, but it suits the narrative that he's trying to push.

All a bit odd really.

Snidey

[Red-Robbo]

34 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Stoke. The area around Port Vale's ground in particular.

 

Certainly an also-ran. Hull as well, although the Old Town was significantly improved when it became City of Culture.

Hull and Stoke remain the only UK places where the shell suit still is common currency among young people. 

[cidered abroad]

2 hours ago, Bris Red said:

As others have said with their terrible facilities and League 1 fanbase at best it is hard to see Luton sustaining their current trajectory. 

You can only go so far on home gates of 7 thousand and a stadium that is horrendously outdated.

We all know where we are heading as a club and we have finally started to lay the foundations to not only reach the Premier league but having a decent chance of staying there if and when we finally do it. Luton on the other hand need serious investment off the pitch and about 12 thousand more home fans through the turnstiles each week to truly be able to sustain themselves at this level or the level above IMO, if they don’t go up this season i would surprised to see them finish above us next season in the championship..
 

 

But from where are they going to fill any new stadium? One has to remember that town is so close to London via motorway and train that the majority of football fans are supporters of the big Premier League teams. Why watch Luton when a half an hour away is quality football in modern stadia? Even Watford, Luton's local derby only pull in just over 20,000 in the Prem.

 

[Swede]

51 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Certainly an also-ran. Hull as well, although the Old Town was significantly improved when it became City of Culture.

Hull and Stoke remain the only UK places where the shell suit still is common currency among young people. 

Actually Burnley should be top of your list. They love a shell suite there. Looks lovely with a flat cap.

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Certainly an also-ran. Hull as well, although the Old Town was significantly improved when it became City of Culture.

Hull and Stoke remain the only UK places where the shell suit still is common currency among young people. 

There is also a good reason why people who only think books are for colouring in vote for monkeys like Jonathan Gullis.

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

2 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

Good point. We have a premier league winner.

 

Hall of fame (in my opinion) UK grotty league:

PL Clubs:  Winner - Croydon (Palace) r/up Wolverhampton

Championship:  Winner - Luton r/up Blackpool

L1:  Winner - Barnsley r/up Peterborough

L2:  Winner - Barrow r/up Hartlepool

And Crewe...shudder. I lived there. There's summat in the water!

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

3 hours ago, cidered abroad said:

I'm not surprised that you see nothing amiss with that article. It's full of bitterness if you can read between the lines. Chairmen should be more graceful than that.

And for the rest of City fans. This is a club that has spent a lot longer in the top league since the war and been to cup finals, not Mickey Mouse ones, than us.

They play a horrible style, but effective. Are well trained in the darker side of things will probably be in the play offs for the second year in a row. If they did go up, they would (dis)grace the Prem for quality of football but would be £100 million better off in one season.

While our massive club, with a superb stadium instead of some people's back yards, will still be stuck in the Championship.

PS. At least our owner has not knowingly cheated the FFP rules like Luton did on their way out of the League a few years ago. And he had the decency to get rid of the worm who did.

I thought they played some nice football, particularly in the first half last night.

[2015]

2 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

Yep, 35 years ago with a top average attendance of 13k but normally between 9-10k

More lately, five years in the National League and five in League 2. 

Tinpot little outfit.

When was the last time we were in the top flight?

[Oh Louie louie]

Around burden park was rough, 

[bcfc01]

2 minutes ago, 2015 said:

When was the last time we were in the top flight?

You should know that, why ask me ?

[2015]

Just now, bcfc01 said:

You should know that, why ask me ?

Just think it's a bit ironic mocking 'tinpot' Luton Town when we haven't been a top flight club since 1980. Comes across as bitter, to me. 

They're a small Town who get gates of 9-10k aswell, we have a much bigger population and catchment area and have only recently started getting averages of over 16k consistently for the last 5 years.

We're in no place to mock a club punching above its weight, when we are exactly where we always have been. I don't know where some of our fans get the entitlement from, we're the biggest underachievers in England along with Plymouth IMO.

[maxjak]

With a very well organised side and extremely effective physicallity,  aligned to a tight pitch and intimidating atmosphere Luton were all over us.....and deservedly won.   However in the next couple of seasons we will be well above them in status and ability....so nothing to be too concerned about IMHO.

Edited March 16, 2023 by maxjak

[CiderJar]

3 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Why do we give a damn? I doubt that NP or anyone else at City has lost any sleep. Only on OTIB does anyone care about what the Luton chairman thinks. 

I'm pretty sure on football forums from clubs up and down the country what opposition staff say about their club is discussed. It is just a topic for conversation, most people don't really care, they just want to talk about it. Not caring about what he said is also a very valid opinion.

[Red-Robbo]

He's a dodgy geezer:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2279584/Two-Luton-officials-admit-criminal-pasts.html

[Open End Numb Legs]

46 minutes ago, maxjak said:

With a very well organised side and extremely effective physicallity,  aligned to a tight pitch and intimidating atmosphere Luton were all over us.....and deservedly won.   However in the next couple of seasons we will be well above them in status and ability....so nothing to be too concerned about IMHO.

I didn't catch most of the 1st half but I was disappointed that we lost to a team better set up for the conditions with our injury list. They were very physical which is fine but conceded yellow cards to professional fouls rather than mistimed challenges. The rugby tackle on Max when trying to start a quick break was bizarre, I think I would be very disappointed to see that from a City player.

Overall whilst they are riding high I have seen much better teams play us, as in better set up for any promotion.

I don't think they will get top 2 and the style of play that works on a wet night at home probably won't work at Wembley if they made it to the final. (Cue quoting this in May when they get promoted!).

[Davefevs]

What a weird and poorly articulated page. 

[eardun]

4 hours ago, hollydog said:

Tbf, they have just secured planning permission for a new £17.5k capacity ground and I shudder a little at your final remark given that so many on here said the same when we signed Naismith! 
But Chairman’s remarks out of order.

I think that might be the nub of the Chairman’s mild dig at us. I recall watching an interview from Pearson after we had signed Naismith (I think it was in the close season) and he was asked how we had managed to prise Naismith away from Luton and Pearson indicated that they’d done well but - and I can’t remember his exact words but this was the gist - that he wouldn’t expect Luton to do as well again this season. 

[Red_Alligator]

I can't see anything nasty in the content. 

It's frustrating that last night their team looked much better than ours for long periods and they are well placed to finish in a strong position this season. 

However, they'd surely need a new stadium in order to meet the requirements of the Premier League - IF they were to get there?

Good luck to them. No issues for me. 

[The Journalist]

I think Luton are a good team and are doing brilliantly. Last night they gave us our toughest game of the season so far IMO.

But, as they say, there's only one thing worse than a bad loser... a bad winner.

Edited March 16, 2023 by The Journalist

[italian dave]

2 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I thought they played some nice football, particularly in the first half last night.

I thought so too. 

I found it a strange match to watch. First half we were just so poor it was untrue. And yet I quite enjoyed watching Luton because I thought they played some really good stuff.

Second half they inexplicably decided to settle for the 1-0 and to revert to a mix of time wasting and outright thuggery. Although our football wasn’t great, and largely long balls and %s, we at least got behind them a few times and caused a few problems. So although it wasn’t great football on show, it was quite enjoyable, both because of the possibility that we might snatch a barely deserved equaliser, but also the fact that it would have been just desserts for Luton.