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I don't think Scott's down turn of form is either not trying, nor just an off day or three... its that he knows he's going, and his mindset is in a totally different place. His focus has changed. Up to you if you of you want to blame him. Personally, I wouldn't select him, and he definitely had to come off at halftime v Burnley 

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Shame to see some of the less than supportive comments on here.  I’m convinced he’s known where he is going since the Watford game.  And good bloody luck to the lad.   Poor performance yesterday but the pressure on him to not get injured whilst putting a shift in must’ve been big.  I’d defy anyone of us on here not to also feel pressure when a possible 15/20 fold wage increase is coming your way - never mind the step up in class, life experiences, and potential opportunities that will accompany the move.

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So Scott had a poor game yesterday (certainly by his standards) but he's 19 and that happens. I watched Bellingham play for Dortmund in the Ruhr derby with Bochum on Friday night and he didn't have a great game either. The only disappointment for me is that if it proves to be his last game in a City shirt at the Gate. But it's been a privilege to watch him develop into the player he is, and can become so despite yesterday's mistake its a big HOORAH from me. 

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6 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

This is it, Fevs, and what I object to is not others having a different take on matters than me, but getting insulted (not by you, natch) for having my own views.  It certainly was rife among the crowd filing out around me that it was a poor performance by Scott with him seeming to have mentally left our club already. I'm a competitive sort and I like to see us win even dead rubbers like yesterday, so it wasn't the last home game of the season I had wanted to watch.

Like everyone, I appreciate some great performances by the young man and wish him all the best wherever his career takes him. I don't think it'll be long before we find out where that will be.

(On a completely unrelated point, but seeing as you mentioned Benson, how on earth did an Angolan Belgian player end up with that name? Were his parents big fans of a certain 1980s American comedy?)

I certainly prefer seeing debate with a bit of courtesy.

I’ve often said you can see a game different at AG than on the telly, and even in AG from one side of the ground to another.

…and it’s gonna get a bit boring on here on just over a weeks time, until the “we’ve not signed anyone yet” threads start! ?

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59 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

and it’s gonna get a bit boring on here on just over a weeks time, until the “we’ve not signed anyone yet” threads start!

Whilst I won’t be moaning, am hoping that being one of the first teams that could say “Championship for sure 23/24” to targets/their representatives, will allow us to get business done reasonably early (rumours hint this maybe the case?). And then we can get the squad up to speed on how we’re going to play with a longer pre season together than most. Given we won’t be shipping in superstars (however much we get for AS), a more Luton-esque/whole greater than the sum of the parts approach relies more heavily on everyone understanding each other/the system. After all, gotta be some benefits to being mid-table non entities. 

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17 hours ago, italian dave said:

Not sure the feeling would be mutual after yesterday! And before anyone starts - I’m only joking! 

I don't see why not, after all, he's the only reason they're still on to top the 100 points.

I'm joking too btw 

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14 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I certainly prefer seeing debate with a bit of courtesy.

I’ve often said you can see a game different at AG than on the telly, and even in AG from one side of the ground to another.

…and it’s gonna get a bit boring on here on just over a weeks time, until the “we’ve not signed anyone yet” threads start! ?

I apologise to @Red-Robbo for calling him a dick, but to say “I didn't clap him off. I applauded the substitution. ” just seems very ungracious to a 19 year old kid with a massive decision to make in the not too distant. For me, mistake aside, it was an average performance, not poor, just average for the standards he’s set. 
 

Every City fan in the ground should have clapped him off for what he’s done over 2 years. Not clapped him being subbed for one mistake and a slightly below par game. 
Probably the last chance we’ll get. 

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27 minutes ago, glynriley said:

I apologise to @Red-Robbo for calling him a dick, but to say “I didn't clap him off. I applauded the substitution. ” just seems very ungracious to a 19 year old kid with a massive decision to make in the not too distant. For me, mistake aside, it was an average performance, not poor, just average for the standards he’s set. 
 

Every City fan in the ground should have clapped him off for what he’s done over 2 years. Not clapped him being subbed for one mistake and a slightly below par game. 
Probably the last chance we’ll get. 

I guess I was caught up in the game and the substitution wasn't for just that mistake; he'd been pretty poor since kick-off and started to just drift out of contention altogether.  As others have said, it's probable that the move was weighing on his mind and his concentration level had dropped.  Pearson would've known this and perhaps only played him so he could have a farewell from the crowd, which is why it's unfortunate that his last match ended like that.

If I was ungracious, I'd say I was in the company of at least two-thirds of the Dolman - but hopefully my posts here show that I do appreciate his talent and gave enjoyed his time at the club. 

Of course, it isn't a one-way street either: Scott gave us some lovely displays and was a very important player and will earn the club money, but City improved him and gave him the platform at an early age from which he'll  hopefully go on to have a fantastic career and earn shedloads of money.

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David Ornstein reporting today that Charlie Patino wants to leave Arsenal on perm.

Assume he won’t get a premier league move. And not many other champ clubs will have money this summer (assuming we sell AS). That is an Alex Scott replacement I’d like to see here. 
 

 

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9 minutes ago, the1stknowle said:

David Ornstein reporting today that Charlie Patino wants to leave Arsenal on perm.

Assume he won’t get a premier league move. And not many other champ clubs will have money this summer (assuming we sell AS). That is an Alex Scott replacement I’d like to see here. 
 

 

You don’t mess with Charlie Patino.

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49 minutes ago, the1stknowle said:

David Ornstein reporting today that Charlie Patino wants to leave Arsenal on perm.

Assume he won’t get a premier league move. And not many other champ clubs will have money this summer (assuming we sell AS). That is an Alex Scott replacement I’d like to see here. 
 

 

He would have played with Alex @ U19 level, so perhaps Alex can put in a word.

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1 hour ago, Percy Pig said:

My mate who works at Brighton's academy is saying that the whole building is talking about Alex replacing Mac Alister this summer. A lot of buzz about it apparently. 

I think that would be a great move for him (and us if we can get the standard sell on inserted). Club doing well, good track record of bringing players through and only selling when it suits them (£££). The sort of club I'm sure we aspire to be

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6 minutes ago, Harvey86 said:

I think that would be a great move for him (and us if we can get the standard sell on inserted). Club doing well, good track record of bringing players through and only selling when it suits them (£££). The sort of club I'm sure we aspire to be

Would be a super move for him. Webster/Scott v Kelly/Semenyo for points. 

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On 01/05/2023 at 20:03, Street red said:

The more clubs the better that come in for him it just increases his price.

Don't think Leeds would be a good move still think Brighton would be quality for Scott.

Not sure- he's gain a lot of valuable experience working under several different managers in one season.

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28 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

He might support them but he ain't so daft as to sign for that bunch of losers. 

 

I expect he'd rather like being in a team that's seventh in the Prem and to be earning squillions of quid, but let's face it where any upward-bound player goes is based on an equation to do with money and likely/promised game time. Sometimes, a favoured manager will swing it, but I'd suggest for most professionals it comes down to cash + opportunities.  

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If there was an offer from Man City and I was Alex I would jump at it.

May not get much game time initially as that is how Pep works, but in the medium term it could be a great  move for him, surrounded by excellent players and being coached by the best in the business.

Nathan Ake is a great example, went there as a thought, a squad filler, took him a year to get the way they play and now starts every game.

If Man City is not an option than Brighton would be a good, if different option. My only concern would be whether that can hold on to their coach, lot of management changes predicted in Serie A and I would have thought he would be a target.

Equally, as many have said, Dortmund would be a good option for the lad.

 

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15 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

For AS it needs to be a club on the up, not one that could face upheaval due to relegation or change of ownership/manager regime.

No need to chase the money, that will come with the right choice, if he decides to leave.

 

 

Mr Barton's mouth is always open.

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15 hours ago, Nugget said:

Well, his post award interview has given some hint of wanting to stay. Could just be good media training & not the right setting to say otherwise!

IF Alex does decide to stay another year or two, I would hope that we play him in one position in the side. I'm not going to say which, as I'm not qualified to do so, but Pearson and his coaches are.

By deciding which is his most promising and productive place in the team, I suggest it would also be a big benefit in the long run, to his growth towards top Premier and England, combined with a more significant sale price. 

 

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2 hours ago, ScottishRed said:

If there was an offer from Man City and I was Alex I would jump at it.

May not get much game time initially as that is how Pep works, but in the medium term it could be a great  move for him, surrounded by excellent players and being coached by the best in the business.

Nathan Ake is a great example, went there as a thought, a squad filler, took him a year to get the way they play and now starts every game.

If Man City is not an option than Brighton would be a good, if different option. My only concern would be whether that can hold on to their coach, lot of management changes predicted in Serie A and I would have thought he would be a target.

Equally, as many have said, Dortmund would be a good option for the lad.

 

Not sure about Man City, he could be buried under the talent there, would think Brighton, Villa, or hopefully Spurs. The latter I would consider a good fit.

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47 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

IF Alex does decide to stay another year or two, I would hope that we play him in one position in the side. I'm not going to say which, as I'm not qualified to do so, but Pearson and his coaches are.

By deciding which is his most promising and productive place in the team, I suggest it would also be a big benefit in the long run, to his growth towards top Premier and England, combined with a more significant sale price. 

 

I’d play him in central midfield.  I’m not qualified either, but this is a forum, so go for it.

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20 hours ago, Nugget said:

Well, his post award interview has given some hint of wanting to stay. Could just be good media training & not the right setting to say otherwise!

It might be that he intends to wind his contract down, which would be a disaster for the club.

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7 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said:

…not unless he led the charge to our promotion. Hardly a disaster

Amen to that but it's the hope that kills you.

I'd be delighted if he was here next year, but not if he doesn't sign a new contract. We need more than a few players in and from what I can see much of it will be funded by Alex Scott's sale.

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10 minutes ago, Searles said:

I’m going to go out on a limb and say he will be here next season, I just don’t think clubs will fork out the money quoted for him. It’s a lot of money for someone with his “record”, although we know if he did go it would be down to potential. He still needs to do more for me, impact the games more.

His record is perfect for most of the clubs in the Prem, if he was their own player they would have been loaning him out to Championship clubs at 17/18/19 to get experience. 

All that has been done for them, now they can reap the benefits.

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42 minutes ago, Searles said:

I think you have misunderstood my point, it is impossible for his record to be “perfect”, a handful of goals and assists is not good enough for someone with his role in the side. We know he offers more, but not £25 million more, not at this stage.

Now if he had got 5 goals and 10 assists last season then yes, this on top of his all round game would mean clubs spending the money. He didn’t achieve that, he should have in my opinion.

The assists figure is not as important as the chances created figure. His was in the 40's, one of the highest in the league.

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1 hour ago, Port Said Red said:

The assists figure is not as important as the chances created figure. His was in the 40's, one of the highest in the league.

Absolutely, too much made of assists, they come in all shapes and sizes, and can depend who’s on the end of them too.  I would use the Conway (Blackburn away) goal as an example, did great work dribbling out of defence to feed Weimann, who got the assist.  Scott gets nothing for that.  Well, okay he actually gets a Second Assist on Wyscout, but nobody looks at that.

I do think he needs to improve in this area, but we should also remind ourselves that he has played the large proportion of his minutes in CM, not as an AM/10.

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He got 4 goals last season, so we know he can do it…in fact some were from RWB.

It might be a reason why the big, big clubs might not fork out the money we want, but I’m sure he’s on their radar for all the other bits of his game.

 

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On 03/05/2023 at 10:52, Percy Pig said:

My mate who works at Brighton's academy is saying that the whole building is talking about Alex replacing Mac Alister this summer. A lot of buzz about it apparently. 

As much as I would like Alex to stay with us for another season, living in Brighton it would be perfect for him to come here but I do know people and players at the club and they have all said they no nothing about him joining. Not saying its not true of course as Brighton are like City in transfer deals in keeping things quiet but they know nothing about a potential deal..

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6 minutes ago, M.D said:

As much as I would like Alex to stay with us for another season, living in Brighton it would be perfect for him to come here but I do know people and players at the club and they have all said they no nothing about him joining. Not saying its not true of course as Brighton are like City in transfer deals in keeping things quiet but they know nothing about a potential deal..

I think any deal (if any) will gather pace after the u20 WC.

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10 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I think any deal (if any) will gather pace after the u20 WC.

Total sense there Dave. Would expect him to just concentrate on the WC first. Then seek his future after. What are the dates for the WC ? His agent must be getting clubs asking about him now one would of thought. So difficult to ignore it all till after WC

Just my thoughts 

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Was looking for bits of news about Scott etc. Apologies if already posted but a food article albeit from end of March.

https://theanalyst.com/2023/03/alex-scott-bristol-city-press-resistant-teenager/

For the chatter about Dortmund on here, nothing at all from their end. They already have a replacement in mind according to one report, someone called Enzo Le Fee.  Cannot say I know anything of him but he is 23, turned it in February according to a quick search.

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6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Was looking for bits of news about Scott etc. Apologies if already posted but a food article albeit from end of March.

https://theanalyst.com/2023/03/alex-scott-bristol-city-press-resistant-teenager/

For the chatter about Dortmund on here, nothing at all from their end. They already have a replacement in mind according to one report, someone called Enzo Le Fee.  Cannot say I know anything of him but he is 23, turned it in February according to a quick search.

23 seems a bit old for Dortmund, certainly for a “rising star”. Bellingham was truly precocious at 16, while at 19, Scott is the perfect age for them to improve a young player and then move on for an enormous fee 3-4 years later, as per Haaland.

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38 minutes ago, Dr Balls said:

23 seems a bit old for Dortmund, certainly for a “rising star”. Bellingham was truly precocious at 16, while at 19, Scott is the perfect age for them to improve a young player and then move on for an enormous fee 3-4 years later, as per Haaland.

No mention of a link and also perhaps they are looking to retain a bit more, be the destination with some more rather than the platform.

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Watching RTV post match, am I right in saying he was the only player to break the line of passive stewards to come and have a clap closer to the fans on his own?

It certainly looked like a goodbye.

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3 hours ago, Gazred said:

Watching RTV post match, am I right in saying he was the only player to break the line of passive stewards to come and have a clap closer to the fans on his own?

It certainly looked like a goodbye.

He was actually man handled, slightly reluctantly, to be at the front of everyone else by Andy King. So King thinks he’s definitely off. 

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9 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

He was actually man handled, slightly reluctantly, to be at the front of everyone else by Andy King. So King thinks he’s definitely off. 

Of course, he might simply have been saying “they’re singing your song Alex, it’s the last game of the season, go and take your applause”.

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And if just reasonably likely he’ll be off, he won’t get another chance to say goodbye, so might as well today. Doubt many will be livid if he pops up at the Old Cothamians 3rds community game in July having signed a new contract - “Scotty’s a ******, he said his goodbyes”.

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25 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Of course, he might simply have been saying “they’re singing your song Alex, it’s the last game of the season, go and take your applause”.

Is this summer as good as it’s going to get as far as getting the best price for him, or would it be possible to keep him another season and still get that money or maybe more? Presuming he stays on his current contract.

Just wandering what the Lansdown’s might be thinking. 

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6 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

Is this summer as good as it’s going to get as far as getting the best price for him, or would it be possible to keep him another season and still get that money or maybe more? Presuming he stays on his current contract.

Just wandering what the Lansdown’s might be thinking. 

He’s not the difference between going up next season or not for me, so I’d take the cash and put it towards the rebuild 

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10 minutes ago, Rob k said:

He’s not the difference between going up next season or not for me, so I’d take the cash and put it towards the rebuild 

I think I agree, obviously would love him to stay but in the long run probably best to cash in now.

it’s been great in the last few weeks that there’s been plenty of talk about how good Vyner, Pring and Conway are. Loving it .

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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Of course, he might simply have been saying “they’re singing your song Alex, it’s the last game of the season, go and take your applause”.

For me it was definitely that, Alex is a humble young player and King would rightly be telling him to appreciate his own achievements this season 

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4 hours ago, Gazred said:

Cheers.

Last we've seen of both then.

Pearson says we’ve offered Dasilva a new contract and new contract for Scott still on the table. Not saying they’re both staying this summer, but doubt any firm decisions from the players have been made yet

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