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glynriley

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1 minute ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

We need some panic till something happens. Then we can panic about what has happened or panic about what did not happen. Surely there has to be panic ?

 

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chinapig

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6 hours ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said:

Been saying West Ham likely destination for Alex. They scouted him loads of times including every or nearly every game post Christmas. Very keen on him, but will they pay the valuation?

They are about to appoint a technical director which might put Rob Newman's job at risk. No indication it will affect their interest in Alex though.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jun/21/west-ham-on-verge-of-appointing-tim-steidten-as-new-technical-director

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GrahamC

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Clearly loads of moving parts to this but saw this morning that Wolves are selling Nathan Collins to Brentford, & read last week that Everton haven’t taken up their option to sign Conor Coady so Wolves will be integrating him back into their squad as his replacement.

With Neves sold too this sorts their FFP & gives them the funds to buy.

Might not be them of course, but know they were very keen in January & no reason that should have changed.

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Monkeh

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11 hours ago, luke_bristol said:

How can we build a side if we keep selling our best players?

How can we stay out of administration by not selling players?

We need to sell to lay some solid foundations

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1 hour ago, Monkeh said:

How can we stay out of administration by not selling players?

We need to sell to lay some solid foundations

I really don’t understand why people don’t get this. Any club outside of the top 6 premier league teams need to sell to progress

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Mr Popodopolous

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If Collins goes for £20m, book profit there is £4m less any sell on fee to Burnley. Therefore to all intents and purposes it's £4m towards FFP.

It may get them back to parity. Then it's £1 in £1 out although wage savings on those who left on frees  and in general also will improve the cost base.

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Northern Red

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4 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said:

Man City about to bid for Rice. Still think West Ham is Scott’s most likely destination.

There's talk of them including Kalvin Phillips in a deal. Same with Man Utd and McTominay. Though there is a suspicion that a lot of it is to get Arsenal to pay up.

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5 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

There's talk of them including Kalvin Phillips in a deal. Same with Man Utd and McTominay. Though there is a suspicion that a lot of it is to get Arsenal to pay up.

Especially as Rice has let it be known that he wants to join Arsenal and has already agreed terms with them.

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AshtonRobin21

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Think this accelerates in the next few weeks. 

West Ham and Wolves (FFP aside) both look set to come into some money.

If one, or both make a move for Scott, then this might also spark others into action.

As it stands, I would be very surprised (and delighted) if he were to still be here this season.

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Mr Popodopolous

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59 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

Think this accelerates in the next few weeks. 

West Ham and Wolves (FFP aside) both look set to come into some money.

If one, or both make a move for Scott, then this might also spark others into action.

As it stands, I would be very surprised (and delighted) if he were to still be here this season.

West Ham seem more financially able than Wolves once the Rice move goes through although they will he looking for FFP reasons be looking to have a net spend of £0.

So say they get £100m for Rice..will they spend 25 pct of that on Scott? Depends how much of the side they want to revamp I guess.

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Betty Swallocks

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18 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said:

He said he doesn't want to leave does he?

The problem for Phillips though is another season of sitting on the bench at City will be terrible for his chances of making the squad for the Euros and he’ll know that.

I’d imagine he’ll be looking for assurances on game time over the summer.

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Monkeh

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7 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

The problem for Phillips though is another season of sitting on the bench at City will be terrible for his chances of making the squad for the Euros and he’ll know that.

I’d imagine he’ll be looking for assurances on game time over the summer.

He can look at ake, he was on the bench for a season before becoming a key player, 

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Betty Swallocks

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7 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

He can look at ake, he was on the bench for a season before becoming a key player, 

Yeah for sure, he wouldn’t be the first player to have struggled for game time in his first season at Man City to go on to make a significant contribution in his second.
However, If that wasn’t to materialise, he’s find himself at risk of not making the England squad next summer. 

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14 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Yeah for sure, he wouldn’t be the first player to have struggled for game time in his first season at Man City to go on to make a significant contribution in his second.
However, If that wasn’t to materialise, he’s find himself at risk of not making the England squad next summer. 

While Southgate is in charge, his place is in no danger,

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JoeAman08

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12 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Harry Maguire plays in a position where we haven’t been well stocked with quality or quantity.
Another season of not playing and I think Levi Colwill will have taken his place. 

Disagree especially over the last year or so. Tomori, Stones, Guehi, Smalling, Dunk, Burn(playing LB) and Mings all have been playing more often and arguably better than HM has over the same period. 

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38 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

While Southgate is in charge, his place is in no danger,

At the World Cup his preference was for Rice, Henderson and Bellingham. He didn't use a double pivot.

With Bellingham injured recently he played Alexander-Arnold not Phillips. And with Maddison and Eze now in the squad Phillips is going to need to be getting games as there's lots of competition.

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Betty Swallocks

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7 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

Disagree especially over the last year or so. Tomori, Stones, Guehi, Smalling, Dunk, Burn(playing LB) and Mings all have been playing more often and arguably better than HM has over the same period. 

Don’t think any of them aside from Stones have done well enough to oust Maguire, he’s in possession of the shirt and has always been good playing for England. 
 

I get picking players on form etc etc but I think centre back is high up in the positions that you need more tried and trusted players. Same as goalkeeper, which is why Pickford is firmly the no 1. 

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3 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Don’t think any of them aside from Stones have done well enough to oust Maguire, he’s in possession of the shirt and has always been good playing for England. 
 

I get picking players on form etc etc but I think centre back is high up in the positions that you need more tried and trusted players. Same as goalkeeper, which is why Pickford is firmly the no 1. 

Mings has improved under Emery, he was too gung ho before, otherwise I tend to agree.

Colwill looks the best prospect to me but will be get enough game time at Chelsea?

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9 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Don’t think any of them aside from Stones have done well enough to oust Maguire, he’s in possession of the shirt and has always been good playing for England. 
 

I get picking players on form etc etc but I think centre back is high up in the positions that you need more tried and trusted players. Same as goalkeeper, which is why Pickford is firmly the no 1. 

I think this is Southgate making England like a club side….Maguire in possession of the shirt, hasn’t done anything to lose it.

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2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think this is Southgate making England like a club side….Maguire in possession of the shirt, hasn’t done anything to lose it.

Remarkably like Nigel in fact. Now we know where Gareth gets his inspiration!

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Betty Swallocks

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5 minutes ago, chinapig said:

Mings has improved under Emery, he was too gung ho before, otherwise I tend to agree.

Colwill looks the best prospect to me but will be get enough game time at Chelsea?

I hope he does, he looks like a really good prospect. Two strong seasons out on loan, hopefully he nails a position for Chelsea in the season coming up.

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Betty Swallocks

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6 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think this is Southgate making England like a club side….Maguire in possession of the shirt, hasn’t done anything to lose it.

Definitely. I think he made a rod for his own back when he previously said about picking players on form. 
 

International games are so far apart that you could have 5/6 defensive partnerships a year if you went on form alone, which doesn’t seem like a great foundation for success.  

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JoeAman08

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1 hour ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Don’t think any of them aside from Stones have done well enough to oust Maguire, he’s in possession of the shirt and has always been good playing for England. 
 

I get picking players on form etc etc but I think centre back is high up in the positions that you need more tried and trusted players. Same as goalkeeper, which is why Pickford is firmly the no 1. 

Which I think is fine for a time. Why I don’t complain about Pickford because he is playing week in and week out. Not sure it sends a great message to the younger players trying to break through to the squad that no matter how well you do Maguire is still in.

Idk my opinion anyway. I agree about more tried and trusted but many of the ones I have named are plenty tried and trusted for their clubs. Running the risk of missing out on better just because he come in at the right time. England hasn’t won anything and come up short a few times now in recent years. So I don’t see how you can just say ok we won’t look to upgrade when there are options. 

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4 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

For what it's worth, Southgate did say during the recent international period that the Maguire situation isn't ideal and can't go on indefinitely. And I suspect the player is well aware of that too, he'll move if United can get a replacement.

 

And still it goes on!

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2 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Great player but his lack of goals and assists is a factor I am sure for some who prefer stats. Beliieve there is a good chance he will be here for another season which will further boost his value,  and who knows we might just fluke the play offs.

Not a chance he’ll be here in August. Too many rumours swirling already.

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Gazred

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Intersting if true about Inter. Perhaps there was something in that tweet from yesterday about his agent trying to place him at top European clubs. If the interest from Inter is genuine then there must be plenty of others in Europe that are aware of him.

It's only going to take 1 opening bid i think to see a few more come out of the woodwork who have not been named in rumours yet.

Let the bidding war commence!

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6 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Great player but his lack of goals and assists is a factor I am sure for some who prefer stats. Beliieve there is a good chance he will be here for another season which will further boost his value,  and who knows we might just fluke the play offs.

No professional scouting department will be put off by lack of goals and assists.

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