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5 minutes ago, LoyalRed said:

But why?  Do you really think Spurs would offer 20 million for him when they don't even play their own hot prospect?  As a manager in the Premiership where you need to get results to keep your job, why would you invest 20 million in a player that won't guarantee immediate results on the pitch.  Personally I would like to see Scott staying for one more season and helping to get us into the top half of the table. 

25M for most Premier League teams isn't much. I don't see it as a gamble.

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2 hours ago, BUTOR said:

Surprised by some of the outcry I’ve seen to this. Can see exactly why Scott would prefer to play for Bournemouth. Or at the least what they can convincingly sell to him. Ambitious club on the up, new ownership, exciting manager wanting to play energetic front foot football, new stadium around the corner, big wages, and a strong chance of holding down a first team spot. I don’t think it’s a bad move if he is given game time, they may not have a big fan base but they can still offer a damn sight more than we can right now. That’s just the order of things, even if not historically. 

Yepp, it's frustrating and somewhat embarrassing that Bournemouth are a long way ahead of us, but they're exactly that - a long way ahead of us.

This coming season will be Bournemouth's 7th season in the Premier League in the last 10 years. In the other 3 seasons they finished 1st, 2nd, and 6th in the Championship.  They're not the guaranteed relegation fodder than many have them down to be (and even if they were, they're still a big step up from us currently).

I agree that Scott could probably find a 'bigger' club willing to give him lots of playing time, but the idea that a move to Bournemouth would be "underwhelming" or that "Scott would have no interest in a club like Bournemouth" is a bit naive.

And from our perspective, £25m is £25m, regardless of who's paying it.

 

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30 minutes ago, BLRed said:

Think that’s been the plan all along? Most people see him as a winger but he did play a lot centrally at Wycombe. I guess that frees up a space for Benarous to compete with bell for left wing spot 

I always thought Mehmeti played wide and cut inside even at Wycombe....

@Davefevswhats the tool you have that shows players most played positions?! 

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7 minutes ago, Randy Marsh II said:

I expect West Ham to join in over the next couple of days

I suspect that Alex's own agent has been on at Bournemouth. He'll be playing them all against each other. He'll be telling Bournemouth that Spurs etc are about to come in for him so they need to move quick, he's doing this knowing a bid from Bournemouth etc will wake up the other clubs. 

We as a club are probably doing the same with agents, intermediaries and even the press. It's no coincidence that news of a Wolves bid came out today.

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1 hour ago, Ecko said:

Do some of your really think players give a shit about the size of a football club? 

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32 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

I totally disagree with the last sentence.

Knight would have gone to a bigger club like lets say Leeds if they went for him. He chose us over Derby.

Scott would choose Bournemouth over us but he wouldn't choose Bournemouth over say Spurs, given half the chance

I really do think fans exaggerate the important of club size/history to players. Especially club history.....remember that most of the major trophies won by Championship teams were won before the majority of present players were even born.

Yes, Knight probably would have chosen Leeds over us, but that's because they'd be able to pay more money and are more likely to be promoted, not "because they're Leeds!". We supposedly beat WBA and Norwich to the signing of McCrorie - good evidence that as soon as those sides have a midtable finish, they're no more attractive than we are.

Think of it this way - when you're considering job offers, do you care if your potential employer won UK Business of the Year in 1963? Do you care how many customers they have in the UK? Do you care how well known the company is? Or do you care about the specific opportunity they're offering you. and how much they're willing to pay you for it?

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10 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

The fact Bournemouth have made a bid and are looking to make an improved bid, would suggest that they know or at least are confident that AS would be keen to join them. 

Nah, but @TV Tom says Alex Scott will never go there!

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West Ham have a lot of potential targets so whether they'll go for Scott remains to be seen.

https://www.thewesthamway.com/2023/07/13/trump-card-report-hammers-eye-move-for-midfield-duo/

Tyler Adams and Ward-Prowse.

Elsewhere being linked with Zakaria.

Edson Alvarez from Ajax was another. Nothing for a while.

Phillips staying at Man City but they did make inquiries etc.

6 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

Not a chance.

Supposing Scott begins to agitate for a move, then we have the start of a problem. His agent will also be eyeing up a nice bonus or commission I'm sure.

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6 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

Not a chance.

Would hope not. Didn't specify if this was exclusive of sell ons. If there isn't the interest and our valuation isn't met let's hope we can keep him. 

However if Alex has his head turned.....

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20 minutes ago, RedEd73 said:

Alex Crook on Talksport indicating that he feels Bournemouth will get him for about £18m as there isn't the interest that City were hoping for from other clubs. 

Whilst 18 million is a lot of money, the club will have a very unhappy fanbase on its hands if he goes for that. 

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25 minutes ago, RedEd73 said:

Alex Crook on Talksport indicating that he feels Bournemouth will get him for about £18m as there isn't the interest that City were hoping for from other clubs. 

I think we will keep him for now then if that’s the best offer that comes in

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Just now, RedEd73 said:

January I reckon. Won't wait until next summer, unless Alex signs a new contract with a release clause (assuming our valuation isn't met this summer)

Depends how well we're doing in January.

If we're bottom third or lower midtable going nowhere then maybe, if we're in the mix for the playoffs or even above then we just can't sell then. Maybe if we get a top offer but beyond that we just can't.

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1 minute ago, RedEd73 said:

January I reckon. Won't wait until next summer, unless Alex signs a new contract with a release clause (assuming our valuation isn't met this summer)

Next summer, when we know what League we are in, what we have and what we need, what is available, and by which time Scott will have demonstrated to the World what a great player he is having led City to the promised land.  We do not need to sell, so don’t 

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8 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Whilst 18 million is a lot of money, the club will have a very unhappy fanbase on its hands if he goes for that. 

Would do you think we should do if no one is prepared to go any higher up front, then?

Keep a player who wants to leave? With no guarantee that he’s going to be happy in the interim. He also won’t sign the new contract that’s been on offer for months, pretty obvious why.

Wait a year for offers that probably won’t get any higher as he’ll then be a year from his contract expiring? 

We realistically have 2 weeks to see what the highest offer we get is and then almost certainly sell.

Bournemouth are currently the only game in town, West Ham might be interested but he’s well down their list.

 

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I just have thoughts that if he stays here another season, in which we expect/dream that we'll be banging on the Prem door and playing for England Under 21's it will significantly increase his transfer value.

And if that happens, I still have a feeling that he impressed Guardiola enough for them to be in the hunt. 

However, while the impression I get from City, is that we don't want him to go yet, I think the reality is that we want a big enough lump sum in our kitty to support our firm desire for Prem at Ashton Gate.

The arrival of Pearson and his cohorts have significantly changed the thinking at City from "We'd like to play in the Premier" to "It's about time that we did what a club the size of City and the population of greater Bristol deserve, is promotion within two years".

 

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6 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Could be 10 up front and 15 million spread over a few years.

True although their upper bid seems to have topped our at £18m.

Same principle would apply of course, £10m up front then instalments spread over 2-4 years. Of course I don't see us selling for £18m.

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6 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Would do you think we should do if no one is prepared to go any higher up front, then?

Keep a player who wants to leave? With no guarantee that he’s going to be happy in the interim. He also won’t sign the new contract that’s been on offer for months, pretty obvious why.

Wait a year for offers that probably won’t get any higher as he’ll then be a year from his contract expiring? 

We realistically have 2 weeks to see what the highest offer we get is and then almost certainly sell.

Bournemouth are currently the only game in town, West Ham might be interested but he’s well down their list.

 

Not heard any evidence that Alex “Doesn’t want to be here” quite the reverse in fact. I think if no one meets £25M, we keep him. If we DID get promoted next year, everything changes. If we don’t but Alex has another year like last year his value would rise (better PL teams interested) which would offset some on the ‘last year of contract’ loss. Time we stopped selling our best players for less than what we felt they were worth. 
 

we decided to get the Dhedhou ‘value on the pitch’ (although FD didn’t deliver it), I would prefer we do the same again unless someone makes a serious bid. 

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6 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Would do you think we should do if no one is prepared to go any higher up front, then?

Keep a player who wants to leave? With no guarantee that he’s going to be happy in the interim. He also won’t sign the new contract that’s been on offer for months, pretty obvious why.

Wait a year for offers that probably won’t get any higher as he’ll then be a year from his contract expiring? 

We realistically have 2 weeks to see what the highest offer we get is and then almost certainly sell.

Bournemouth are currently the only game in town, West Ham might be interested but he’s well down their list.

 

Hold out. 

Transfer market barely waking up from its winter hiatus and people are panicking. 

18 million isn't a figure that many of us will feel is acceptable to let him leave for. 

I'm not sure if Alex will be throwing a tantrum if we don't accept a low bid from Bournemouth. He is a mature lad, he knows the deal. I also question whether he would ideally want to return to Bournemouth. Of course they can offer him premier league football which will be attractive to him but he didn't have a good experience there before. 

If we don't get what we want then he plays for us and we see how things are in January. 

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2 hours ago, UpTheReds said:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-alex-scott-bournemouth-8596558

Wolves bid for him before Bournemouth did according to BristolPost.

Further evidence that the club want this to be out in the open. Imagine they asked for Piercy to sit on the wolves bid News until another club bid, then release it all together to help trigger the bidding war 

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48 minutes ago, Bobby kellard hero said:

Scott has not said he wants to leave.Pearson has also said we are not a selling club anymore.If a club meets our valuation I would want that up front and any add ons extra.

Scott will clearly be willing to join Bournemouth as they've submitted a bid, they wouldn't bother if he'd indicated he wouldn't go.

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3 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

Not heard any evidence that Alex “Doesn’t want to be here” quite the reverse in fact. I think if no one meets £25M, we keep him. If we DID get promoted next year, everything changes. If we don’t but Alex has another year like last year his value would rise (better PL teams interested) which would offset some on the ‘last year of contract’ loss. Time we stopped selling our best players for less than what we felt they were worth. 
 

we decided to get the Dhedhou ‘value on the pitch’ (although FD didn’t deliver it), I would prefer we do the same again unless someone makes a serious bid. 

Lansdown has confirmed a new contract offer has been on the table for months, and Scott isnt signing it, so thats clearly a hint he is keeping his options open at the very least. We cant be in a position where a prodigy comes through like this and ends up going for nothing/ running the risk of a tribunal setting the fee…. What if inter have told his agent not to sign anything, let his contract run out and they will take him on a free transfer in 2 years! 

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5 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Further evidence that the club want this to be out in the open. Imagine they asked for Piercy to sit on the wolves bid News until another club bid, then release it all together to help trigger the bidding war 

Although Crook suggested that there hasn't yet been the interest hoped for.

Scott is a very special talent but PL clubs can and do cast their net far and wide. If it's true that FFP is starting to be enforced more strictly in the PL then that could be a consideration for some.

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1 minute ago, Simon bristol said:

Lansdown has confirmed a new contract offer has been on the table for months, and Scott isnt signing it, so thats clearly a hint he is keeping his options open at the very least. We cant be in a position where a prodigy comes through like this and ends up going for nothing/ running the risk of a tribunal setting the fee…. What if inter have told his agent not to sign anything, let his contract run out and they will take him on a free transfer in 2 years! 

Indeed, 18 months for Inter because European clubs can start chatting to players in the final 6 months of their deal..so January 2025!

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2 hours ago, phantom said:

Bristol Post = Taking stories from OTIB

Mehmetti will be his replacement

Post has been alot better since gregor mcgregor left, Piercy seems to get on better with the club and has generally been  reliable, it's just a shame he works for the post 

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13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Although Crook suggested that there hasn't yet been the interest hoped for.

Scott is a very special talent but PL clubs can and do cast their net far and wide. If it's true that FFP is starting to be enforced more strictly in the PL then that could be a consideration for some.

Is it possible that Bournemouth have got Crook to say that? 

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6 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Is it possible that Bournemouth have got Crook to say that? 

Interesting, never know. Hadn't thought of that..who knows in the fog of the transfer market- does he specialise in South Coast stuff.

For clarity the first paragraph is Crook, the second paragraph is my take to some extent.

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Bit of chatter from the Wolves end..There is also someone on there who claims to know a relative of Scott.

I really hope we stand firm because although this is a plausible scenario, the nauseating arrogance and inward looking nature of some PL fans is starting to grate. (Brightonwolf).

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I've been quite risk averse but £25m or close to £25m ie say £22m with several million more in realistic add-ons or no.

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11 minutes ago, Bobby kellard hero said:

What a load of bollocks from Mr Wolf.

I mean you never know but...I'm inclined to call it doubtful.

If Scott starts kicking up a fuss, puts in a transfer request which way does it go then.

Beijing Wolf isn't the poster in q btw, neither is Brighton Wolf it's Guernsey Wolf who claims to know a relative of Scott.

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25 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Interesting, never know. Hadn't thought of that..who knows in the fog of the transfer market- does he specialise in South Coast stuff.

For clarity the first paragraph is Crook, the second paragraph is my take to some extent.

Quick Google search says he covers the South Coast area. He's done lots of stories on Bournemouth. He has their new manager live on talksport with him today so he obviously has a very close relationship with them so I'm saying it's very plausible they have got him to say that. 

Bournemouth "Hi Alex, if you can leak a story about there being little interest in Alex Scott then we'll give you an interview with our new manager live on air" 

That sort of thing I suspect.

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2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

What @OneTeamInBristol would you suggest.

Quite bullish aren't we but if Scott gets his head turned how does the dynamic change in your considered view.

The kid seems perfectly happy here playing on his PlayStation with his mate ConwAy!

Head turners Wolves and Muff are not. However, I would say spurs, Manchester C/U,Liverpool, Arse Chelsea + one of about five European clubs then head turns would be an issue. This is going to run for a while yet as I personally feel something big is brewing!

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Just now, REDOXO said:

The kid seems perfectly happy here playing on his PlayStation with his mate ConwAy!

Head turners Wolves and Muff are not. However, I would say spurs, Manchester C/U,Liverpool, Arse Chelsea + one of about five European clubs then head turns would be an issue. This is going to run for a while yet as I personally feel something big is brewing!

PL and money is PL and money. Wolves have been in Europe recently so you never know.

That's the other good point though, so far there is no indication that Scott is clamouring for a move just yet. Sure it can change in a flash but I honestly think he could be better served for his overall development with one more season here, in a better side than he has played in so far who are looking upwards at last.

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18 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

What @OneTeamInBristol would you suggest.

Quite bullish aren't we but if Scott gets his head turned how does the dynamic change in your considered view.

I have no idea, as do 99% of people on here and that Wolves forum.

My laughing emoji was based on Beijing Wolf's comment about knowing Pearson's father in law, don't be so sensitive.

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46 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Bit of chatter from the Wolves end..There is also someone on there who claims to know a relative of Scott.

I really hope we stand firm because although this is a plausible scenario, the nauseating arrogance and inward looking nature of some PL fans is starting to grate. (Brightonwolf).

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I've been quite risk averse but £25m or close to £25m ie say £22m with several million more in realistic add-ons or no.

Brightonwolf is no bcfcshaggs ill tell you that much.

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11 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

PL and money is PL and money. Wolves have been in Europe recently so you never know.

That's the other good point though, so far there is no indication that Scott is clamouring for a move just yet. Sure it can change in a flash but I honestly think he could be better served for his overall development with one more season here, in a better side than he has played in so far who are looking upwards at last.

It would be silly to turn down the opportunity to play in the Premier League if Bournemouth meet out valuation. If they've bid for him then he'll have indicated he's happy to go there.

All it takes is one serious injury and the opportunity can be lost forever.

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13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

PL and money is PL and money. Wolves have been in Europe recently so you never know.

That's the other good point though, so far there is no indication that Scott is clamouring for a move just yet. Sure it can change in a flash but I honestly think he could be better served for his overall development with one more season here, in a better side than he has played in so far who are looking upwards at last.

I can see him starting the season for sure. If he shows form the offers will increase. A lot can happen between now and Friday 1st September at 11

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9 minutes ago, OneTeamInBristol said:

I have no idea, as do 99% of people on here and that Wolves forum.

My laughing emoji was based on Beijing Wolf's comment about knowing Pearson's father in law, don't be so sensitive.

Fair enough, yes that's true. Point well made by you. Yeah chatter is all speculation really on most forums with most posters, I shouldn't be so sensitive also.

6 minutes ago, KegCity said:

It would be silly to turn down the opportunity to play in the Premier League if Bournemouth meet out valuation. If they've bid for him then he'll have indicated he's happy to go there.

All it takes is one serious injury and the opportunity can be lost forever.

Of course, if they meet £25m then that's a whole different ball game.

My thinking is that they'll try and lever the price down as low as realistically possible.

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2 hours ago, !james said:

I always thought Mehmeti played wide and cut inside even at Wycombe....

@Davefevswhats the tool you have that shows players most played positions?! 

My eyes ???

Seriousky, until last season, he’d played the vast majority of his career playing off of the striker as a no10 / support striker in a central position

1 hour ago, slartibartfast said:

Crook knows, F A about us !

But he knows an awful lot about Bournemouth!

1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said:

£18m would still make him one of the most expensive teenagers to ever be sold by a Championship club. It's a fantastic fee. Just because we - Club and fans - want more doesn't mean we'll get it.

Exactly.  We can all say what we’d do, but ultimately City / SL / PA have another decision to make when the next bid comes in.

This money decreases SL’s need to top up the club to the extent he needs to each year.

We seem to be posting opinions as fact as to what the club will do, when we’ve little / no idea.

1 hour ago, Johnny Musicworks said:

Can’t see why Alex wouldn’t want to wait and see if a bigger club come in. It’s still early days in the window so unless his agent has indicated that nobody else is going to come in then why not wait for a potentially bigger opportunity. Time is on his side !

There is firstly little doubt in my mind that Alex is amenable to signing for Bournemouth, ditto Wolves if their bid is true also.  What we’ve no idea is how relaxed he is about City potentially declining bids.

Agents do have a reputation for saying there’s interest, but getting that club to bid is a different matter.

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1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Would do you think we should do if no one is prepared to go any higher up front, then?

 

Take the 18 mill but don't let anyone know, not even Bcfcshags mate. Then say: "undisclosed fee." Meanwhile, knock up a telegram to the Muff saying something like: "Muff. 25 mill. Plus Semenyo back on loan. Or forget it." Then leave this lying around the office, somewhere Bcfcshags mate will see it.

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2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

My eyes ???

Seriousky, until last season, he’d played the vast majority of his career playing off of the striker as a no10 / support striker in a central position

But he knows an awful lot about Bournemouth!

Exactly.  We can all say what we’d do, but ultimately City / SL / PA have another decision to make when the next bid comes in.

This money decreases SL’s need to top up the club to the extent he needs to each year.

We seem to be posting opinions as fact as to what the club will do, when we’ve little / no idea.

There is firstly little doubt in my mind that Alex is amenable to signing for Bournemouth, ditto Wolves if their bid is true also.  What we’ve no idea is how relaxed he is about City potentially declining bids.

Agents do have a reputation for saying there’s interest, but getting that club to bid is a different matter.

Completely agree, the media reports seem to change every other day. Spurs were front runners then West Ham then Inter Milan were interested now its Bournemouth as front runners.

There are so many moving parts to consider without really knowing the full story. The window is open for 6 weeks.. If he's going to move (and I think he will) I reckon it'll be towards the end of the window. Unless of course we get an offer we are happy with prior to this.

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4 minutes ago, RedRoss said:

Completely agree, the media reports seem to change every other day. Spurs were front runners then West Ham then Inter Milan were interested now its Bournemouth as front runners.

There are so many moving parts to consider without really knowing the full story. The window is open for 6 weeks.. If he's going to move (and I think he will) I reckon it'll be towards the end of the window. Unless of course we get an offer we are happy with prior to this.

And he is happy to go to the club who has hit the magic number. 
 

Muff will need a lot of selling, even more than usual. 

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Bit of chatter from the Wolves end..There is also someone on there who claims to know a relative of Scott.

I really hope we stand firm because although this is a plausible scenario, the nauseating arrogance and inward looking nature of some PL fans is starting to grate. (Brightonwolf).

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I've been quite risk averse but £25m or close to £25m ie say £22m with several million more in realistic add-ons or no.

Nige's father in law!  We all know if Wolves play dirty, Nige will just fight them off with his bare hands!

I think the best move for Alex from the teams linked so far would be Brighton. Exposure to European Football and would likely get the game time he wants.  Wolves and Bournemouth again will offer him the game time he wants, but would he want that in a team in transition that (certainly in Bournemouths case) are a good bet to struggle at the wrong end. He loves Spurs, but I don't know if he gets games there.  I'd love Newcastle to be interested as I think Howe is the perfect manager for someone like Scott to progress under, but I've not seen any link there since March.

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34 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

This money decreases SL’s need to top up the club to the extent he needs to each year.

£18m is almost an entire season's losses. It's a huge injection of cash. Honestly people seem fixated on the £25m figure...but I reckon we'd be happy with anything within 10% of £20m.

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12 minutes ago, Steve Watts said:

Nige's father in law!  We all know if Wolves play dirty, Nige will just fight them off with his bare hands!

I think the best move for Alex from the teams linked so far would be Brighton. Exposure to European Football and would likely get the game time he wants.  Wolves and Bournemouth again will offer him the game time he wants, but would he want that in a team in transition that (certainly in Bournemouths case) are a good bet to struggle at the wrong end. He loves Spurs, but I don't know if he gets games there.  I'd love Newcastle to be interested as I think Howe is the perfect manager for someone like Scott to progress under, but I've not seen any link there since March.

Him and Brighton feels a strong match. Younger players can shine there, the style of play under De Zerbi especially is brilliant,  Webster and Maupay to name two stepped up from the Championship (I know Maupay has had his difficulties at Everton but he was decent at Brighton). European football too as you say.

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17 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Who is better between Alex Scott and his u19 midfield mate Carney who went to Chelsea for £20m?

Just wondering

A good comparison is James McAtee who had a good season loan at Sheff U last year (didn't win EFL YPOTS though.....) and there have apparently been £30m offers in for him

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6 minutes ago, The Journalist said:

Bournemouth would feel a bit of an anti-climax, mainly because I genuinely think Alex has a real shot at playing for England within the next 24 months if he continues his current rate of progress. And he's not going to do that while he's at Bournemouth.

I don't really understand that. He might stand out in that Bournemouth team then he'll more than likely get a move to a bigger club. 

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9 minutes ago, Super said:

I don't really understand that. He might stand out in that Bournemouth team then he'll more than likely get a move to a bigger club. 

In the position he plays, playing in a team that'll get out-passed - and lose - most games, standing out will be difficult.

Don't think that point of view is too difficult to understand, personally, but all opinions innit.

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