Dastardly and Muttley Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: I don’t like Wolves, either. But Wolves more “pointless” than Luton & Bournemouth; I don’t think so !! At least there’s a story behind Luton and Bournemouth. Luton, the plucky ex-non league team who’ve risen back from the dead. Bournemouth, the Russian nemesis origin story. Wolves. A gold shirt? That’s it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDziek Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: I don’t like Wolves, either. But Wolves more “pointless” than Luton & Bournemouth; I don’t think so !! I like anyone who is going to pay us £25m or more! Gutted that he’s gonna go but I’ll be following his career and expect his next club to be a stepping stone to one of the big boys. Which, with a decent sell on fee, will be happy days for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: At least there’s a story behind Luton and Bournemouth. Luton, the plucky ex-non league team who’ve risen back from the dead. Bournemouth, the Russian nemesis origin story. Wolves. A gold shirt? That’s it. Really! Wolves are original members of the football league, Division One champions 3 times, Division 2 champions 4 times, Division 3 champions twice, Division 4 champions once and FA Cup winners 4 times. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboBCFC Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Really! Wolves are original members of the football league, Division One champions 3 times, Division 2 champions 4 times, Division 3 champions twice, Division 4 champions once and FA Cup winners 4 times. Not the JPT though is it? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 42 minutes ago, Davefevs said: If Alex is also happy with that, then we can really play hardball. If we accept less than £25m it may also be a sign of how highly we value having the money in the bank and the scope it gives us going forwards. 4 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Really! Wolves are original members of the football league, Division One champions 3 times, Division 2 champions 4 times, Division 3 champions twice, Division 4 champions once and FA Cup winners 4 times. I hate the way Wolves went up with the dodgy deal with a superagent.... ...and I'm still bitter about that night at Ashton Gate... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Really! Wolves are original members of the football league, Division One champions 3 times, Division 2 champions 4 times, Division 3 champions twice, Division 4 champions once and FA Cup winners 4 times. Yep agree Wolves are a proper club and will always be PL / strong Championship club. Got to be honest though was expecting a better choice than Wolves or Bournemouth for Alex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Really! Wolves are original members of the football league, Division One champions 3 times, Division 2 champions 4 times, Division 3 champions twice, Division 4 champions once and FA Cup winners 4 times. Indeed. Billy Wright, 105 England caps, 90 as captain. Stan Cullis, one of the great managers from 1948 to 1964, won the league 3 times. The first English club to take European football seriously, playing friendlies against top European sides before the European Cup started. Derek Dougan, John Richards, Steve Bull, 3 great strikers. The list goes on even if it doesn't quite match Bournemouth's illustrious history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 50 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: There are so many people on here who seem so keen for Alex to be sold I'm just surprised somebody hasn't yet told him to bu**er off and be gone. I maintain that our position should be that £25M gets you a seat at the table and that's it. It's the starting point for negotiation not the end point. Anything less should be rejected forthwith. I also don't like cash plus player deals. Most of the time you get a sum of cash and a disaffected player who is not wanted by his current club and is nothing more than a make weight for someone else. Finally I think if Scott is sold for 20M or more it's delusional to think we'd spend anymore than a third (if that) of what we receive. If it is 20m plus add ons ; it will be sold as near as possible 25m , the big one will be the sell on fee , 20% minimum , as if he reaches even half of his potential , that will be a fat payday in a few years , , next transfer could easily be 50 -75 million , I also think that if Wolves do have it accepted it will start a scramble with others who have been playing it cool . As far as spending it , I don’t any of us believe more than 4-5 million if that would be spent, at least this window, couple of class acts only maybe as squad needs to stay tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cov 77 said: If it is 20m plus add ons ; it will be sold as near as possible 25m , the big one will be the sell on fee , 20% minimum , as if he reaches even half of his potential , that will be a fat payday in a few years , , next transfer could easily be 50 -75 million , I also think that if Wolves do have it accepted it will start a scramble with others who have been playing it cool . As far as spending it , I don’t any of us believe more than 4-5 million if that would be spent, at least this window, couple of class acts only maybe as squad needs to stay tight I'm sorry it should be £25M plus add ons, otherwise we are selling ourselves short. I'd expect us to negotiate a 20% sell on but I wouldn't bank on benefitting from it. Too much store is placed on sell ons which for many clubs, especially us, don't seem to bear much fruit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I also don't like cash plus player deals. Most of the time you get a sum of cash and a disaffected player who is not wanted by his current club and is nothing more than a make weight for someone else. Finally I think if Scott is sold for 20M or more it's delusional to think we'd spend anymore than a third (if that) of what we receive. I'm so glad you mentioned that, whenever its been suggested that has been my thoughts, totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I'm sorry it should be £25M plus add ons, otherwise we are selling ourselves short. I'd expect us to negotiate a 20% sell on but I wouldn't bank on benefitting from it. Too much store is placed on sell ons which for many clubs, especially us, don't seem to bear much fruit. Not disagreeing it should be 25m , and it may be that 20m plus is 22m who knows , reference the sell on fee I really do think this will bear fruit , especially if he ends up at Wolves , West Ham et al because I think he will then move on to a top six or top European in a few years for a lot of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Still think that West Ham are lurking in the background and will show their hand soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Still think that West Ham are lurking in the background and will show their hand soon. The ink is still wet on the Rice contract. To me it seems as if clubs have made a move knowing that West Ham now have the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Still think that West Ham are lurking in the background and will show their hand soon. Yep - and they’d still have £75m left in the bank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Really! Wolves are original members of the football league, Division One champions 3 times, Division 2 champions 4 times, Division 3 champions twice, Division 4 champions once and FA Cup winners 4 times. I don’t deny Wolves have a more illustrious history or that they’re bigger. Just currently, I don’t find them interesting. I think I could name three of their players: Bentley, Kilman and Costa. They’re just a pretty dull team, never competing at the top end, mostly avoiding the bottom. If you asked 100 random people to name all 20 teams in the Premiership, I reckon Wolves would be one of the least mentioned teams. They’re, currently, dull and forgettable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, chinapig said: Indeed. Billy Wright, 105 England caps, 90 as captain. Stan Cullis, one of the great managers from 1948 to 1964, won the league 3 times. The first English club to take European football seriously, playing friendlies against top European sides before the European Cup started. Derek Dougan, John Richards, Steve Bull, 3 great strikers. The list goes on even if it doesn't quite match Bournemouth's illustrious history. I saw that team twice. At Cardiff City in 1952 and in the first floodlit game at City in 1953. They were a very good side with England's captain Billy Wright and a host of top quality in the side. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: I don’t deny Wolves have a more illustrious history or that they’re bigger. Just currently, I don’t find them interesting. I think I could name three of their players: Bentley, Kilman and Costa. They’re just a pretty dull team, never competing at the top end, mostly avoiding the bottom. If you asked 100 random people to name all 20 teams in the Premiership, I reckon Wolves would be one of the least mentioned teams. They’re, currently, dull and forgettable. Fair enough. The one I always forget is Crystal Palace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 50 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: I don’t deny Wolves have a more illustrious history or that they’re bigger. Just currently, I don’t find them interesting. I think I could name three of their players: Bentley, Kilman and Costa. They’re just a pretty dull team, never competing at the top end, mostly avoiding the bottom. If you asked 100 random people to name all 20 teams in the Premiership, I reckon Wolves would be one of the least mentioned teams. They’re, currently, dull and forgettable. My thought too. No thrills or exciting players to watch. Reckon they need players like Alex Scott tbf so wouldn't surprise me if they hit our demands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 2 hours ago, chinapig said: Indeed. Billy Wright, 105 England caps, 90 as captain. Stan Cullis, one of the great managers from 1948 to 1964, won the league 3 times. The first English club to take European football seriously, playing friendlies against top European sides before the European Cup started. Derek Dougan, John Richards, Steve Bull, 3 great strikers. The list goes on even if it doesn't quite match Bournemouth's illustrious history. What you on about, who can forget such footballing giants as , Ray Bumstead, Terry Gulliver, John Hold and late of this parish Lou Peters ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritAbroad Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I know their interest has waned, but I'd have loved to have seen Alex go to Brighton - I think he would've thrived there under De Zerbi and they are happy to move players on at a high price to reinvest in younger players, which we could've benefitted from in the future. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 6 hours ago, BritAbroad said: I know their interest has waned, but I'd have loved to have seen Alex go to Brighton - I think he would've thrived there under De Zerbi and they are happy to move players on at a high price to reinvest in younger players, which we could've benefitted from in the future. If Caicedo goes that could still happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Wolves are submitting a £20 million-plus bid for Bristol City midfielder Alex Scott, as Julen Lopetegui makes a major push to capture the highly-rated England under-20 international. Scott is a prime target for Lopetegui this summer and Wolves are ready to make a second improved offer which will be closer to the Championship club’s strict £25 million valuation. Wolves had an opening proposal worth £18 million knocked back earlier this month but a new offer is imminent for one of English football’s brightest young talents, who was named the Championship’s Young Player of the Season. Lopetegui, the Wolves head coach, is completely behind the pursuit of Scott and believes the teenager can have a significant impact in the Premier League. Scott was previously on Wolves’s radar before Lopetegui’s appointment in November, but the Basque coach is understood to have been vastly impressed by his potential since taking a closer look. Wolves do face serious competition, however, with Bournemouth already having a bid rejected last week. Above from today’s Sunday Telegraph. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, Malago said: Wolves are submitting a £20 million-plus bid for Bristol City midfielder Alex Scott, as Julen Lopetegui makes a major push to capture the highly-rated England under-20 international. Scott is a prime target for Lopetegui this summer and Wolves are ready to make a second improved offer which will be closer to the Championship club’s strict £25 million valuation. Wolves had an opening proposal worth £18 million knocked back earlier this month but a new offer is imminent for one of English football’s brightest young talents, who was named the Championship’s Young Player of the Season. Lopetegui, the Wolves head coach, is completely behind the pursuit of Scott and believes the teenager can have a significant impact in the Premier League. Scott was previously on Wolves’s radar before Lopetegui’s appointment in November, but the Basque coach is understood to have been vastly impressed by his potential since taking a closer look. Wolves do face serious competition, however, with Bournemouth already having a bid rejected last week. Above from today’s Sunday Telegraph. You are 3 pages late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 9 hours ago, eardun said: Yep - and they’d still have £75m left in the bank! They actually don’t. The structure of the deal means they only got a third of it upfront. Rest of it will be paid in instalments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Which part of Bristol City value the player at 25 million don’t these clubs understand ? If City want 25 million it seems to me that they should have valued him at 35 million. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Which part of Bristol City value the player at 25 million don’t these clubs understand ? If City want 25 million it seems to me that they should have valued him at 35 million. I get what you are saying, but maybe, just maybe, we valued him at £20m plus all along and therefore said £25m? At the end of the day any player is worth what others will pay for him. Increasingly looks like we will not be far away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 56 minutes ago, Malago said: Wolves are submitting a £20 million-plus bid for Bristol City midfielder Alex Scott, as Julen Lopetegui makes a major push to capture the highly-rated England under-20 international. Scott is a prime target for Lopetegui this summer and Wolves are ready to make a second improved offer which will be closer to the Championship club’s strict £25 million valuation. Wolves had an opening proposal worth £18 million knocked back earlier this month but a new offer is imminent for one of English football’s brightest young talents, who was named the Championship’s Young Player of the Season. Lopetegui, the Wolves head coach, is completely behind the pursuit of Scott and believes the teenager can have a significant impact in the Premier League. Scott was previously on Wolves’s radar before Lopetegui’s appointment in November, but the Basque coach is understood to have been vastly impressed by his potential since taking a closer look. Wolves do face serious competition, however, with Bournemouth already having a bid rejected last week. Above from today’s Sunday Telegraph. Did you put it in massive font to try to reach 100 pages? 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Did you put it in massive font to try to reach 100 pages? My question is if the lad does stay for one more season with us does everyone think this will give us automatic promotion. Or if he leaves for greater prospects does this mean we can only hope for a playoff spot. whatever the money is floating around is irrelevant as NP and team would have done their sums. I hope he stays but what a prospect he has become for any future club lucky enough grab him. I wish him all the luck whatever he does, and I hope he and his family are involved in his future prospects, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 40 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Which part of Bristol City value the player at 25 million don’t these clubs understand ? If City want 25 million it seems to me that they should have valued him at 35 million. I see what you're getting at Major. The low ball stuff but in practice we'll try and get the most we can and clubs will try to lever him out as cheaply as possible. Certainly a club or clubs might look to test the water at <£25m, likewise we're under no obligation to accept as shown by the two rejected bids. Suppose bidding clubs might be hoping that a player in that scenario gets unsettled, puts in a transfer request maybe etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihai Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Guys. Is there any chance to keep our Scott for one more season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kid in the Riot Posted July 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2023 Going public so early with Scott's valuation was a very smart move from City. It sets expectation for all involved, the player included, and firmly puts the pressure on potential suitors to put up, or shut up. You can already see on social media fans of Wolves and Bournemouth getting frustrated with their clubs and asking them to just cough up what's required. We've been crystal clear on our valuation of Scott, and the club will hold firm, and not accept a penny less. 29 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mihai said: Guys. Is there any chance to keep our Scott for one more season ? No 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said: No Only if there is a loan back, I was also thinking about those moaning about selling our best players, Where were we in the league with both Scott and semenyo in the side? Because it wasn't challenging for the play-offs, so keeping those 2 and not strengthening how does that suddenly make us promotion contenders....it doesn't, You sacrifice 1 exceptional player and sign 3 or 4 great players with the cash and suddenly your team is alot better 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Going public so early with Scott's valuation was a very smart move from City. It sets expectation for all involved, the player included, and firmly puts the pressure on potential suitors to put up, or shut up. You can already see on social media fans of Wolves and Bournemouth getting frustrated with their clubs and asking them to just cough up what's required. We've been crystal clear on our valuation of Scott, and the club will hold firm, and not accept a penny less. If Scott's take changed, could that change the dynamic? Or is he on board with £25m baseline? Edited July 16, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Only if there is a loan back, I was also thinking about those moaning about selling our best players, Where were we in the league with both Scott and semenyo in the side? Because it wasn't challenging for the play-offs, so keeping those 2 and not strengthening how does that suddenly make us promotion contenders....it doesn't, You sacrifice 1 exceptional player and sign 3 or 4 great players with the cash and suddenly your team is alot better There is no chance of this happening in my view. Wolves, Bournemouth whoever are not going to spend £20million plus on the championship player of the year to loan him straight back out again. I don’t think that would be beneficial for Alex either 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 When the very big clubs, such as Liverpool, are mentioned in regards to Scott it's not how they operate. It's the middle to struggling Premier League sides that cough up the dough to take on rising talent with no previous Prem experience. A mate of mine made a good point to illustrate this the other day. Virgil van Dijik was superb for Celtic and went to Southampton for £13M. Yet Liverpool knew of him at the time and how good he was but weren't interested. Then with a couple of years Prem experience under his belt they splashed out £75M. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Scott end up at one of the top clubs in the country for £60M plus in two or three years but via the stepping stone of a West Ham, Wolves or Bournemouth first. Therefore, it is essential that City add a sell on percentage even if it's only 15% as that could add £6M to say an upfront fee of £22M now. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, handsofclay said: When the very big clubs, such as Liverpool, are mentioned in regards to Scott it's not how they operate. It's the middle to struggling Premier League sides that cough up the dough to take on rising talent with no previous Prem experience. A mate of mine made a good point to illustrate this the other day. Virgil van Dijik was superb for Celtic and went to Southampton for £13M. Yet Liverpool knew of him at the time and how good he was but weren't interested. Then with a couple of years Prem experience under his belt they splashed out £75M. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Scott end up at one of the top clubs in the country for £60M plus in two or three years but via the stepping stone of a West Ham, Wolves or Bournemouth first. Therefore, it is essential that City add a sell on percentage even if it's only 15% as that could add £6M to say an upfront fee of £22M now. Sell on fee will be guaranteed, nobody leaves the club without 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Monkeh said: You sacrifice 1 exceptional player and sign 3 or 4 great players with the cash and suddenly your team is alot better We’ve already recruited those 4 - Dickie, McCrorie, Roberts and Knight! You could call it 6 if you include Mehmeti and Cornick. I don’t think we recruit another 3 or 4. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, Davefevs said: We’ve already recruited those 4 - Dickie, McCrorie, Roberts and Knight! You could call it 6 if you include Mehmeti and Cornick. I don’t think we recruit another 3 or 4. I'm in agreement with you, Davefevs. It keeps being mentioned that we have recruited those players on the back of the Semenyo money, but I believe it's a combination of that and the anticipated Scott money. If we recruit further it will be one or two additions at most. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: We’ve already recruited those 4 - Dickie, McCrorie, Roberts and Knight! You could call it 6 if you include Mehmeti and Cornick. I don’t think we recruit another 3 or 4. Yep, if you look back, the way we’ve operated our transfer activity over the past couple of seasons has been very smart - culminating in selling Semenyo in Jan to allow us to bring in the players we have so that if/when Alex does leave, we are not having to pay over the odds for players….. Our squad looks to be so much stronger than it was 12 months ago, even without Alex, should he leave…. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, handsofclay said: I'm in agreement with you, Davefevs. It keeps being mentioned that we have recruited those players on the back of the Semenyo money, but I believe it's a combination of that and the anticipated Scott money. If we recruit further it will be one or two additions at most. It will be interesting to see how much more friendly game time Araoye gets and whether it's enough for them to think he could be sufficient cover for Atkinson who looks on schedule for a Dec/Jan return. It could save us bringing in another defender at least until January. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Now that West Ham have much more money to spend, let the bidding war begin in earnest. Scott under the hammer(s)? Sold ! To the highest bidder. Which could now, quite probably, be West Ham. Only thing to be ironed out then, will be personal terms, Will hate to see him go, but if it means we spend the proceeds well, and challenge strongly for promotion. I'd be more than happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I'm more concerned with who's going to be the first person to go to page 100. Do they win a prize? On the actual topic. I could be wrong but i don't see West Ham splashing the Rice cash. They'll know that people know they have that money and so won't be wanting to pay the high fees that they'll be challenged to cough up. Queue £25 million bid on the nose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 People talk West Ham but they're linked with so many midfielders it's hard to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: People talk West Ham but they're linked with so many midfielders it's hard to say. That's the problem once people know you have money, we will probably have the same problem when/if Scott is sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Globe Trotter said: There is no chance of this happening in my view. Wolves, Bournemouth whoever are not going to spend £20million plus on the championship player of the year to loan him straight back out again. I don’t think that would be beneficial for Alex either I'm not suggesting it will, it's the only way I think he will be with us for the forthcoming season however that's all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: That's the problem once people know you have money, we will probably have the same problem when/if Scott is sold Which is partly why we have got our signings in already I guess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: We’ve already recruited those 4 - Dickie, McCrorie, Roberts and Knight! You could call it 6 if you include Mehmeti and Cornick. I don’t think we recruit another 3 or 4. The point dave I was making is, that we sold semenyo in order to recruit those, Scott will be the same, all though the recruitment won't be this window in my opinion it will be in Jan and next summer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Monkeh said: The point dave I was making is, that we sold semenyo in order to recruit those, Scott will be the same, all though the recruitment won't be this window in my opinion it will be in Jan and next summer Yes, it sets us up for future windows and reduces the need to sell the next one too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I think Wolves and Bournemouth will battle it out for a couple of weeks then a bigger club will come in late on with a deal that matches or exceeds our expectations. Feels far from over just yet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 In terms of first team performance this season, wonder if AS sale will be simply a negative (lack of AS), with the vast majority of squad/team improvement coming from a combination of getting excess players and wages off the books over the last couple of years, plus the money from the Semenyo sale? Not convinced we’d have anticipated AS money in any of our business to date given conservative (and sensible) approach to FFP in recent times. Think the business we have done makes us significantly stronger than last season, but AS clearly strengthens us. Don’t think this is a reason not to sell though, player will want (and deserve) his crack at the Prem and the money can be used effectively still. But maybe a bit late to do much more business without being ripped off. Puts us in a good place for future sustainability, Jan window if needed and maybe investing more in a very successful academy. Did think we might want more goal scoring firepower to support TC, but I’ve extrapolated a couple of mins of highlights vs National league south to a new ‘goals from everywhere’ strategy, so reneging on that view. Think the most crucial individuals in the squad (based on their ability, but critically also their cover or lack of): Max O’L Rob A Matty J We’ve some sort of cover for all of them and if we brought 3 more in would we start to look a bit bloated as a squad? Whilst we’ve seen youngsters forced to make their mark in recent seasons due to lack of options, being in a better place squad wise doesn’t make the principle of youngsters getting their chance wrong. Can see Araoye, Palmer-Houlden and maybe others being there or thereabouts. That’s a long way of saying, maybe no one else comes in post AS sale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paignton red Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Did you have a spreadsheet to work out that it would be you who got it to a 100 pages davefevs ? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, One Team said: I think Wolves and Bournemouth will battle it out for a couple of weeks then a bigger club will come in late on with a deal that matches or exceeds our expectations. Feels far from over just yet! And I honestly don’t think we have to rush a decision either. If it happens late in the window, we’ve got in who we really wanted anyway. We need to maximise the money, whatever amount that ultimately is. 2 minutes ago, paignton red said: Did you have a spreadsheet to work out that it would be you who got it to a 100 pages davefevs ? I post so much, was always in with a chance! 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 “100 pages on a transfer forum topic, you’ll never sing that!” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KendrickDNB Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 100 pages!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 What a sad bunch we are. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, petehinton said: “100 pages on a transfer forum topic, you’ll never sing that!” On Ipswich’s TWTD it would be between 2k-3k separate threads! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Usually just keep half an eye on players who leave but I'll really watch Alex when he goes. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, paignton red said: Did you have a spreadsheet to work out that it would be you who got it to a 100 pages davefevs ? I'm glad it was Davefevs who broke through the 100 mark. His posts are always so informative and at times fun. He contributes so much to the site and had a fly by night/glory hunter achieved it who hardly posts at all it would've seemed so unfair and I would've demanded a re-count. As it is our Davefevs can justifiably raise his bat and milk the applause. 9 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Could be a load of rubbish but going on this Alex ain't going to West Ham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 19 hours ago, chinapig said: Of course Brentford kept selling their best players with disastrous consequences. Imagine where they would be if they had kept those players. No ambition at all. End goal was the same - the difference is that they did so with no £20m losses. Out of all the management teams we've had - this is the most confident I've been where if we had/have a big sale with AS - we'd at least reinvest wisely. The same way Brentford did with M'Buemo, Pinnock, Norgaard, and Jensen from the Watkins funds alone. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, Sniper said: Could be a load of rubbish but going on this Alex ain't going to West Ham. This, if true, embellishes what was rumoured happened at a possible meeting the other day. It seems like West Ham won't be his destination. Furthermore, Hammers fans seem to accept this now and are far more preoccupied with whether they should buy Harry Maguire. It thus seems to be between Bournemouth and Wolves now. The two clubs who have submitted rejected offers. But I wouldn't be at all surprised if an Italian or German top flight team join the bidders. We have to remember that England youth representative matches are watched over Europe and Scott's performances and experience in men's football are bound to have got a few clubs on the continent interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 34 minutes ago, Sniper said: Could be a load of rubbish but going on this Alex ain't going to West Ham. Scott frozen out of possible move to West Ham? Not so sure, But, if he was, would it be Scott of the Antartic? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said: Scott frozen out of possible move to West Ham? Not so sure, But, if he was, would it be Scott of the Antartic? Well his mate Wilson is gone. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 21 minutes ago, Fuber said: End goal was the same - the difference is that they did so with no £20m losses. Out of all the management teams we've had - this is the most confident I've been where if we had/have a big sale with AS - we'd at least reinvest wisely. The same way Brentford did with M'Buemo, Pinnock, Norgaard, and Jensen from the Watkins funds alone. Well yes, that was the point I was making rather sarcastically. It was being argued that selling your best players shows a lack of ambition when Brentford show that not to be the case. The key as you say is how well you use the money. Under the Ashton/LJ regime we used it badly with the exception of selling Flint and signing Webster for less. Like you I have confidence that the current regime will do a lot better. Indeed they already have so far. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, chinapig said: Well yes, that was the point I was making rather sarcastically. It was being argued that selling your best players shows a lack of ambition when Brentford show that not to be the case. The key as you say is how well you use the money. Under the Ashton/LJ regime we used it badly with the exception of selling Flint and signing Webster for less. Like you I have confidence that the current regime will do a lot better. Indeed they already have so far. Brentford often had the replacement in the building already! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Banksy Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Yes, it sets us up for future windows and reduces the need to sell the next one too. Agreed.. having a budget ready for when we need it and know we need a player could be really useful. And like you say if the time comes that teams are after players like Conway we can hold off unless the fee is as high as we want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just called an old mate that's a massive Jack about Cundle. He raved about him. They are desperate to get him back on loan. From what I was toldabout his style, it would certainly be worth exploring as he's a player. Not a loan though. All hypothetical but it would be down to whether big Nige fancies him I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider hoss rules Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 12 hours ago, slartibartfast said: What you on about, who can forget such footballing giants as , Ray Bumstead, Terry Gulliver, John Hold and late of this parish Lou Peters ! Or George Berry and his magnificent fro! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Just called an old mate that's a massive Jack about Cundle. He raved about him. They are desperate to get him back on loan. From what I was toldabout his style, it would certainly be worth exploring as he's a player. Not a loan though. All hypothetical but it would be down to whether big Nige fancies him I guess. One or two Wolves fans on their forum a few days ago did suggest Cundle as part of any deal might be a useful fit. All hypothetical as you say. Edited July 16, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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