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2 minutes ago, jambodinho said:

Will all depend on how well or badly we and he are doing. 
If we’re 8 points clear and he’s contributing goals and assists most weeks then we won’t be selling. In that case I’d assume he signs a new contract with us with a release clause in case we bottle it. 

If we’re bottom half and he’s not really contributing then we could get a real low offer. 

Been lower table for so long thought you meant clear of relegation ?

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27 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

A name mentioned on here from Wolves was the goalie Sarkic, his move to Stoke has been called off despite a fee being agreed last week. Wonder whether he is now being used to bridge the gap in valuation between us and them?

no, its called off because they can't agree personal terms, if stoke can't pay his wages we have absolutely no chance

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15 minutes ago, Grey Fox said:

More , in my opinion, and we will know if a promotion push is on or just a pipe dream 

how did we do with scott and semenyo in the team last season, as i don't remember this promotion push you keep telling us will 100% happen

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24 minutes ago, Gazred said:

Interesting. Fee was reported as £1.25m, had a medical then failed to agree personal terms at the last min apparently.

I think we could really do with a top end championship keeper, but im not sure the guy that wolves are trying to get rid of and replaced him with bentley is the answer?! 

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4 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

how did we do with scott and semenyo in the team last season, as i don't remember this promotion push you keep telling us will 100% happen

By January, we would have a far better idea than current conjecture can possibly give us. We would have also enjoyed seeing our best players in City shirts, and of course made a serious signal of intent.

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5 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

I think we could really do with a top end championship keeper, but im not sure the guy that wolves are trying to get rid of and replaced him with bentley is the answer?! 

We could certainly do with some strength in depth at GK. This guy looks similar to Max in age and experience.

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2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Little bit of chatter about Lloyd Kelly earlier in the thread. This guy seems to be an analyst. I wonder...nice little sell-on bonus?

I can’t imagine they’ll make profit on LK with a year to run. Hope I’m wrong though, would be nice to earn a bit more from that sale.

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30 minutes ago, Carey 6 said:

I can’t imagine they’ll make profit on LK with a year to run. Hope I’m wrong though, would be nice to earn a bit more from that sale.

Mason Mount went for 55m with a year on his contract, window has gone a bit bananas 

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5 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

Homegrown...............was he **** ! Doesn't know much, does he !

I think he means homegrown from the perspective of the European and PL regs.

ie for PL and UEFA competitions you require a certain number of home grown players, basically means anyone trained by an English club in this instance for 3 years or more before the age of 21.

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7 hours ago, chinapig said:

West Ham are now said to want Leon Goretzka.

They've been linked with so many midfielders it begins to look like they don't really have a coherent plan. Much like last summer in fact.

The more I read about them the more I think West Ham really wouldn't be a good move for Scott at all.

Even though Bournemouth aren't as fashionable and it gets tiresome selling them all of our best players, if their new manager is half of what he's hyped up to be they could be a very fun side to watch next year, with a playing style that would suit him down to the ground.

Or you've got Wolves where a manager with the pedigree of Lopetegui evidently rates him and would presumably have a plan for him.

Whereas West Ham as you say don't seem to have much of a plan. Talk of conflict between Moyes and recruitment staff in terms of who they should be targeting, seem to be valuing "proven experience" which wouldn't bode well for his chances of regular football. Have a fairly pragmatic manager in Moyes who doesn't have a great track record of bringing youth through and might not even be there in a few months if they start the season poorly

 

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1 minute ago, bcfctim said:

The more I read about them the more I think West Ham really wouldn't be a good move for Scott at all.

Even though Bournemouth aren't as fashionable and it gets tiresome selling them all of our best players, if their new manager is half of what he's hyped up to be they could be a very fun side to watch next year, with a playing style that would suit him down to the ground.

Or you've got Wolves where a manager with the pedigree of Lopetegui evidently rates him and would presumably have a plan for him.

Whereas West Ham as you say don't seem to have much of a plan. Talk of conflict between Moyes and recruitment staff in terms of who they should be targeting, seem to be valuing "proven experience" which wouldn't bode well for his chances of regular football. Have a fairly pragmatic manager in Moyes who doesn't have a great track record of bringing youth through and might not even be there in a few months if they start the season poorly

 

 

 

Agreed and I would add Moyes' preferred direct style of play which doesn't seem to suit Alex.

There were reports last season of dissent in the dressing room about the style of play in fact. The signings last summer were supposed to lead to a change but he soon reverted to type. It's also been suggested that Warburton left because he disagreed with the approach.

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41 minutes ago, italian dave said:

Good post Downend.

I think covid was another factor in the collapse of the model - but otherwise, yes agree.

You said you’d copied and pasted from word - did you miss a bit at the end? Be interested to see what followed. 

Yes I did - when I increased the font size it went on to a second page, which I missed when cut and pasting!

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2 hours ago, Sturny said:

Makes me wonder if some clubs get stubborn and don't pay 25m and we hold onto Scott. If or how much his value could change in January, 

That's the risk factor for any team baulking at £25m now.

Can only see Scott's value climbing and if he has a very good start to the season then by January £25m might look like a bargain, when there might not be quite so many midfielders on the market after Christmas as there appear to have been this summer.

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10 minutes ago, downendcity said:

That's the risk factor for any team baulking at £25m now.

Can only see Scott's value climbing and if he has a very good start to the season then by January £25m might look like a bargain, when there might not be quite so many midfielders on the market after Christmas as there appear to have been this summer.

To be honest at that point he'd have 18 months left on his deal. I'd expect his value to drop rather than increase from £25m.

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26 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Listened go that Alex Crook on talksport earlier. Again he's saying Bournemouth are the only club in the market for him as Wolves can't afford him due to ffp and that he expects him to end up at Bournemouth. 

He’s based down there. It’s his local club . He comes across a bit biased towards them 

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1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Normally he's pretty good but his coverage of the Alex Scott transfer makes it seem like he's being told what to say by Bournemouth. 

He said the other day that he was confident they’d get him for £18m . He obviously didn’t know wolves had already had that amount rejected. He’s the same as most of them. My sources this  & we’re led to believe that. Gets a bit tedious tbh 

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Dean Jones also seems to suggest that Bournemouth are out in front.

https://www.givemesport.com/wolverhampton-wanderers-transfer-news-alex-scott-molineux/

He says Wolves still walking the line a bit FFP wise but mentions £20m or so- also suggests the £25m remains a bit off-putting.

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1 hour ago, nebristolred said:

To be honest at that point he'd have 18 months left on his deal. I'd expect his value to drop rather than increase from £25m.

There are many unknown factors other than remaining length of contract, such as his form, luck with injuries, and the needs of bidding clubs. At his age my bet woke he continues to improve , as Will his value.

There is a strong case for keeping AS for this season.

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12 minutes ago, Grey Fox said:

There are many unknown factors other than remaining length of contract, such as his form, luck with injuries, and the needs of bidding clubs. At his age my bet woke he continues to improve , as Will his value.

There is a strong case for keeping AS for this season.

I’m all for keeping him myself also. Even if his value does drop, it’s worth the punt of keeping hold of him. But if he does have a decent season I’m more than willing to bet we would get less for him in Jan than now. And even less 6 months on from that.

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Given Wolves supposed precarious financial state, would it be a good move for Scotty? Without a big turn around  with their new Manager, they could easily have gone down.

Stay in BS3 and sign a new deal Alex. ?

You'll get your move at some point.

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20 minutes ago, nebristolred said:

I’m all for keeping him myself also. Even if his value does drop, it’s worth the punt of keeping hold of him. But if he does have a decent season I’m more than willing to bet we would get less for him in Jan than now. And even less 6 months on from that.

I think most city fans would rather keep Alex, than sell and have a couple of cheap replacements.  But everytime he is on the floor after a tackle, you panic is he injured, so unless city could have insurance in place to cover a serious injury, I am not sure we can afford not to sell. That is also assuming Alex would be prepared to stay  rather than earn millions playing in the prem 

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8 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

I think most city fans would rather keep Alex, than sell and have a couple of cheap replacements.  But everytime he is on the floor after a tackle, you panic is he injured, so unless city could have insurance in place to cover a serious injury, I am not sure we can afford not to sell. That is also assuming Alex would be prepared to stay  rather than earn millions playing in the prem 

That new contract would speak volumes if he signed it. Yes, he would get his move but by God we would be in such a strong position and he would be better off.

Idealistic I know but get there with us Alex.

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9 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

I think most city fans would rather keep Alex, than sell and have a couple of cheap replacements.  But everytime he is on the floor after a tackle, you panic is he injured, so unless city could have insurance in place to cover a serious injury, I am not sure we can afford not to sell. That is also assuming Alex would be prepared to stay  rather than earn millions playing in the prem 

Wiemann / Benarous/ knight. Na don’t think that at all 

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It seems the club has played an absolute blinder so far. We have I think set a price a bit above his current worth so if we do lose him we will be adequately compensated. Having said that Alex is 19 and progressing rapidly and his worth if he stays (unlikely I know) will I believe well exceed £25m by the end of the season (barring serious injury). He is such an extraordinary talent that there is no way his value will depreciate. If he stays and we don’t challenge then he will go in January to one of any number of desperate clubs. If we have a successful season then many more clubs will be in the queue so there will be a bidding war. Simply put £25m now or £30m plus next summer. 

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Wrong topic Ik, but does anyone know if clubs have shown interest in TC. Looks the most natural goal scorer we’ve had since Tammy to me and he’s been electric so far this pre season. 
 

At only 20 years old if he continues this form into the season by next July he could be worth some serious money. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Normally he's pretty good but his coverage of the Alex Scott transfer makes it seem like he's being told what to say by Bournemouth. 

Agree.

1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said:

He said the other day that he was confident they’d get him for £18m . He obviously didn’t know wolves had already had that amount rejected. He’s the same as most of them. My sources this  & we’re led to believe that. Gets a bit tedious tbh 

If any of you haven’t watched Sky Docs - Deadline Day, watch it….I’m on episode 3.  I really did like like Dharmesh and Kaveh on the Transfer Centre, but having watched this, I actually dislike them more.  They spout so much crap, admittedly they are time-fillers really, that is all.  Pure hyperbole!!

Dharmesh - right let’s plan the schedule for the programme later.

Sky bloke - yeah, ok

Dharmesh - how about we do….(at this point I’m expecting something professional or clever from him)….potential outgoings, then potential incomings. ??‍♂️??‍♂️??‍♂️

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He could easily have scored 4/5 today…

- low shot parried away by the keeper

- brilliant tip over by keeper

- header onto top of bar

- scruffy shot saved, probably the easiest chance

- thumping shot against the bar

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3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

 

He could easily have scored 4/5 today…

- low shot parried away by the keeper

- brilliant tip over by keeper

- header onto top of bar

- scruffy shot saved, probably the easiest chance

- thumping shot against the bar

Did feel for him, the easiest chance was the one he had his worst shot ?.

Does clearly show he’s got the ability to shoot from range though. The second one I thought was going in but was a spectacular save to be fair. 
 

Definitely not putting buyers off that’s for sure.

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6 hours ago, George Rs said:

Wrong topic Ik, but does anyone know if clubs have shown interest in TC. Looks the most natural goal scorer we’ve had since Tammy to me and he’s been electric so far this pre season. 
 

At only 20 years old if he continues this form into the season by next July he could be worth some serious money. 
 

 

I think Bell is a more natural goalscorer. 
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10 hours ago, nebristolred said:

To be honest at that point he'd have 18 months left on his deal. I'd expect his value to drop rather than increase from £25m.

Not if he continues to show the quality and steps it up another level.  

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6 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Agree.

If any of you haven’t watched Sky Docs - Deadline Day, watch it….I’m on episode 3.  I really did like like Dharmesh and Kaveh on the Transfer Centre, but having watched this, I actually dislike them more.  They spout so much crap, admittedly they are time-fillers really, that is all.  Pure hyperbole!!

Dharmesh - right let’s plan the schedule for the programme later.

Sky bloke - yeah, ok

Dharmesh - how about we do….(at this point I’m expecting something professional or clever from him)….potential outgoings, then potential incomings. ??‍♂️??‍♂️??‍♂️

Both of them are god awful & always have been, that Kaveh is an absolute weapon, just have a read of what Crystal Palace fans think of him. They are both part of the main reasons why sky sports news is such a joke these days and why you can’t trust a word of their “sources” when it comes to transfers - many years back sky sports were always the most reliable and trustworthy before those 2 got more involved.

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37 minutes ago, Bodiesaffer said:

Not if he continues to show the quality and steps it up another level.  

Doesn’t really matter though imo. With 18 months left, and definitely with 12, clubs know you risk losing your best asset for free in the not too distant future so have that extra bargaining power. Even with the season of his life, his value won’t be above £25m in January purely for that fact.

I could be wrong but purely from a transfer value perspective, this is the prime time to sell imo. Though I obviously hope we keep hold of him, who knows what we could achieve if we manage to do so.

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8 hours ago, George Rs said:

Wrong topic Ik, but does anyone know if clubs have shown interest in TC. Looks the most natural goal scorer we’ve had since Tammy to me and he’s been electric so far this pre season. 
 

At only 20 years old if he continues this form into the season by next July he could be worth some serious money. 
 

 

And so the next is lined up , term “selling club “ ring a bell (we could sell Bell too)

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8 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

He's also in the final year of his contract next July ie it expires in summer 2025 as it stands...barring of course if it holds any kind of extension clause of some kind.

Not till NEXT year, so no rush this

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36 minutes ago, nebristolred said:

Doesn’t really matter though imo. With 18 months left, and definitely with 12, clubs know you risk losing your best asset for free in the not too distant future so have that extra bargaining power. Even with the season of his life, his value won’t be above £25m in January purely for that fact.

I could be wrong but purely from a transfer value perspective, this is the prime time to sell imo. Though I obviously hope we keep hold of him, who knows what we could achieve if we manage to do so.

“Who knows what we could achieve “, try “promotion “. Surely that is the real gamble , the value of Scott now verses the value of promotion and Scott then? 
 

I know which bet I would prefer, 

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11 hours ago, nebristolred said:

To be honest at that point he'd have 18 months left on his deal. I'd expect his value to drop rather than increase from £25m.

 

1 hour ago, Bodiesaffer said:

Not if he continues to show the quality and steps it up another level.  

Also, how many other 19 year olds are out there that can do what Alex can do?

The rarity value is such that clubs that want him will have to pay and , as I mentioned before, come January it's doubtful that there will be so many good midfielders on the market as there have been this summer for clubs looking to reinforce.

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20 minutes ago, Grey Fox said:

“Who knows what we could achieve “, try “promotion “. Surely that is the real gamble , the value of Scott now verses the value of promotion and Scott then? 
 

I know which bet I would prefer, 

100% agree with you. I was just responding to a poster who thought his value might go up in Jan, which I disagree with.

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10 minutes ago, nebristolred said:

100% agree with you. I was just responding to a poster who thought his value might go up in Jan, which I disagree with.

I cant really see, even with scott staying, that we will pull ourselves up 14 places based on the signings weve made? What from the last 8 years would give us any evidence that this will be our season finally?! If we could cut down on weak goals conceded and finish top 10 that would be a result as far as i can see.

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11 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

I cant really see, even with scott staying, that we will pull ourselves up 14 places based on the signings weve made? What from the last 8 years would give us any evidence that this will be our season finally?! If we could cut down on weak goals conceded and finish top 10 that would be a result as far as i can see.

Ten points was the difference, that’s all

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12 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

I cant really see, even with scott staying, that we will pull ourselves up 14 places based on the signings weve made? What from the last 8 years would give us any evidence that this will be our season finally?! If we could cut down on weak goals conceded and finish top 10 that would be a result as far as i can see.

Indeed, and while there only friendlies, the goals we've conceded are preventable no doubt nige and the team will be working hard on that, so there is little point reading into it,

But we need a 200% improvement on defending 

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15 minutes ago, BCFCAL said:

Looks like he'll be off to Wolves. Really hope at least half of the money is reinvested in this summer

Not a chance. I wouldnt expect anymore than £5m to be spent. The rest used to dent a big FFP hole, with the option of a bit of it in Jan if we really needed backup or a push for playoffs etc. 

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24 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

I cant really see, even with scott staying, that we will pull ourselves up 14 places based on the signings weve made? What from the last 8 years would give us any evidence that this will be our season finally?! If we could cut down on weak goals conceded and finish top 10 that would be a result as far as i can see.

It’s not just about what signings you make…..it’s about a group of players clicking and being comfortable in the formation/way of playing.

Yes we have to defend better and we have brought 3 defenders into the club this summer to hopefully sort that. If we can continue the front foot football we saw more of last season with the abundance of pace and movement and improve the goals conceded column, we have every chance of competing for a playoff spot

 

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Talk of Wolves and £25 million on Twitter now.

One thing I will say, I have every faith that Tinns and Pearson can immediately pull a trigger and get wheels in motion on some new post-Scott signings.

BUT we're not there yet. Let's see where this goes. 

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6 minutes ago, RedRaw said:

It’s not just about what signings you make…..it’s about a group of players clicking and being comfortable in the formation/way of playing.

Yes we have to defend better and we have brought 3 defenders into the club this summer to hopefully sort that. If we can continue the front foot football we saw more of last season with the abundance of pace and movement and improve the goals conceded column, we have every chance of competing for a playoff spot

 

Well we will have to see,, obviously we all hope we do, i still see us as “bullyable” all over, especially at the back, with the best will in the world oleary isnt a top end championship keeper, and if anything happens to him then god help up if bajic has to play a run of games. Conway and bell are our best hope of goals, if conway is sold or is out for any period of time, we will seriously lack the x factor to be competing.

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32 minutes ago, BCFCAL said:

Looks like he'll be off to Wolves. Really hope at least half of the money is reinvested in this summer

The problem with reinvesting the money isn't so much the £12.5million spent on fees for say five players but the at least five fold increase in wages for those new signings compared to Scott.

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2 hours ago, nebristolred said:

Doesn’t really matter though imo. With 18 months left, and definitely with 12, clubs know you risk losing your best asset for free in the not too distant future so have that extra bargaining power. Even with the season of his life, his value won’t be above £25m in January purely for that fact.

I could be wrong but purely from a transfer value perspective, this is the prime time to sell imo. Though I obviously hope we keep hold of him, who knows what we could achieve if we manage to do so.

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1 hour ago, Nugget said:

Would love a contract extension with £25m release clause, to settle it all down. Then in the short term see what happens by Jan ? 

I think if he is still here on 1st Sept, he will sign a new contract.  He needs to protect himself too.

14 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Talk of Wolves and £25 million on Twitter now.

One thing I will say, I have every faith that Tinns and Pearson can immediately pull a trigger and get wheels in motion on some new post-Scott signings.

BUT we're not there yet. Let's see where this goes. 

I’m waiting for Percy predominantly to put news out there.

Again, I don’t think he would’ve played yesterday if a new bid was being put together yesterday.  Of course it might come today, but I think those putting stuff out on Twitter last night were speculating.

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58 minutes ago, nickolas said:

Not a chance. I wouldnt expect anymore than £5m to be spent. The rest used to dent a big FFP hole, with the option of a bit of it in Jan if we really needed backup or a push for playoffs etc. 

I think it depends on what you mean by spent; on transfer fees, no but on packages maybe.

Remembering that a 3 year contract at £10Kpw will cost you £1.5M, a player bought for a fee of £1.5M is actually a cost of £3M.

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1 hour ago, BCFCGav said:

Talk of Wolves and £25 million on Twitter now.

One thing I will say, I have every faith that Tinns and Pearson can immediately pull a trigger and get wheels in motion on some new post-Scott signings.

BUT we're not there yet. Let's see where this goes. 

They would of already started the process even before bids were known about

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1 hour ago, BCFCAL said:

Looks like he'll be off to Wolves. Really hope at least half of the money is reinvested in this summer

No chance will half the money be reinvested. I could see City signings 2-3 players within 5million budget to Improve the squad in weak areas 

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1 minute ago, Monkeh said:

They would of already started the process even before bids were known about

They should make a play for Jack Rudoni if Scott goes.  No idea what he would cost, but we could’ve / should’ve had him for zilch last summer.

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12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

They should make a play for Jack Rudoni if Scott goes.  No idea what he would cost, but we could’ve / should’ve had him for zilch last summer.

Rudoni is certainly one that we should be after. 

Possesses many similar attributes to Scott, and perhaps hasn’t received the plaudits yet because he has been playing in a very poor Huddersfield team. 

As you mention, he is one we should have tried for last year. 

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