The Coach Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Lew-T said: From the little bits I’ve heard/seen over the weekend. He is indeed off… Will it be tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Lew-T said: From the little bits I’ve heard/seen over the weekend. He is indeed off… To who, Wolves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) If a move is imminent then why play him in pre-season friendlies? Risking a £25m asset in games that don't mean much at all to the future of Scott. For us too, in a sense if a move is imminent why play him in games in which we will soon have to replace. I don't doubt that a move could be imminent and a leaving out wouldn't be borne out if petulance or anything but trying to think of the economic or even team building rationale for playing him in Behind Closed Doors Pre-season friendlies in that context. Edited July 23, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: If a move is imminent then why play him in pre-season friendlies? Risking a £25m asset in games that don't mean much at all to the future of Scott. For us too, in a sense if a move is imminent why play him in games in which we will soon have to replace. I don't doubt that a move could be imminent and a leaving out wouldn't be borne out if petulance or anything but trying to rhink or the economic or even team building rationale for playing him in Behind Closed Doors pre season friendlies in that context. I assumed we were making a statement. ‘This is our asking price, we are more than happy to keep him, pay in full or don’t have him.’ 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: If a move is imminent then why play him in pre-season friendlies? Risking a £25m asset in games that don't mean much at all to the future of Scott. For us too, in a sense if a move is imminent why play him in games in which we will soon have to replace. I don't doubt that a move could be imminent and a leaving out wouldn't be borne out if petulance or anything but trying to rhink or the economic or even team building rationale for playing him in Behind Closed Doors pre season friendlies in that context. Exactly this. If anything was even remotely close he wouldn’t of been playing yesterday. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Bryans Left Peg said: I assumed we were making a statement. ‘This is our asking price, we are more than happy to keep him, pay in full or don’t have him.’ That could have been a statement of intent by us yep. Edited July 23, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, BCFC11 said: Exactly this. If anything was even remotely close he wouldn’t of been playing yesterday. I disagree. We would only stop playing him when we agree a fee. Why change our plans to give our best player a game because another club might be about to offer a fee for a player that we might accept? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Bard said: I disagree. We would only stop playing him when we agree a fee. Why change our plans to give our best player a game because another club might be about to offer a fee for a player that we might accept? Supposing (God forbid) he gets injured in a pre-season friendly though. Deal off? It certainly can happen..Diallo reportedly got a bad one in a pre-season friendly this month, Tommy Smith for Middlesbrough vs Real Betis. Diallo on crutches, Smith was stretched off. Not light knocks or even medium knocks. We pulled out of a deal over a very similar issue in 2008. Motaeb (sp) was all set to join but was not to play in an upcoming derby. Play he did and the deal was off. Edited July 23, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Bard said: I disagree. We would only stop playing him when we agree a fee. Of course. But that doesn't mean a deal isn't close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 It won’t be wolves if they can’t even afford €15mill on another player due to FFP. They’ve sold Jiminez for only 5mill and will need to replace him so surely striker is priority. Personally, I expect Brighton to come to the table if they sell caicedo to chelsea. Reckon they could drop 30mill to blow others out of the water that are pissing around trying scrape together bare minimum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Of course. But that doesn't mean a deal isn't close. Interesting. KITR with a bit of inside knowledge perhaps … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, BLRed said: It won’t be wolves if they can’t even afford €15mill on another player due to FFP. They’ve sold Jiminez for only 5mill and will need to replace him so surely striker is priority. Personally, I expect Brighton to come to the table if they sell caicedo to chelsea. Reckon they could drop 30mill to blow others out of the water that are pissing around trying scrape together bare minimum Brighton would be a good fit for many reasons but there was talk that they were considering £25m to be excessive. Of course as you say if Caicedo sold their view may well change but Brighton are quite adept at tapping the foreign market. Unsure on their Home Grown player situation. Edited July 23, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Brighton would be a good fit for many reasons but there was talk that they were considering £25m to be excessive. I think the Premier league 'collective' at the time were all saying that but our powers that be have stuck to their guns. Maybe the likes of Brighton may come back in knowing we aren't budging. Personally, as a City fan, money talks but as a Scott fan, Wolves would be a crap move as I can see them coming down next season, certainly in for a battle. Edited July 23, 2023 by Ska Junkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BLRed said: It won’t be wolves if they can’t even afford €15mill on another player due to FFP. They’ve sold Jiminez for only 5mill and will need to replace him so surely striker is priority. Personally, I expect Brighton to come to the table if they sell caicedo to chelsea. Reckon they could drop 30mill to blow others out of the water that are pissing around trying scrape together bare minimum I'd be delighted if the did but Brighton operate a very comprehensive transfer model. They don't pay for potential. Rather they find it where others don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Norn Iron said: OK then.... I do. Ever since our glory days up to 1980, I have looked forward to the start of a new season. Like so many, I have thought that we'd be going up but knew some of that was based on wishful, loyal thinking. However, this close season has been different. We finished well and have bought wisely. NP has a backroom staff he wants. There seems to be a genuine bond of trust between players. If Bournemouth can get to the Premier League not once but twice and Luton Town can haul themselves out of the National League to the top tier, then I have every right to believe we can. I just think this is the season for us to do it.... And please, nobody is allowed to remind me of this post until after the 10th game at least! I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said: I'd be delighted if the did but Brighton operate a very comprehensive transfer model. They don't pay for potential. Rather they find it where others don't. Agree to an extent, but they did pay £20m for Webster, so they will for the right player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said: I'd be delighted if the did but Brighton operate a very comprehensive transfer model. They don't pay for potential. Rather they find it where others don't. Agreed. But it’s something that if done right they could profit 50-60m in two years if prem player values stay as they are and Alex continues to do what he does. I think it’s highly likely that most teams would make exceptions to their normal window routine. Personally can see them waiting a bit longer and if it gets a couple weeks till the end of the window they’ll come in for him. Whether we accept or not is a different story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Supposing (God forbid) he gets injured in a pre-season friendly though. Deal off? It certainly can happen..Diallo reportedly got a bad one in a pre-season friendly this month, Tommy Smith for Middlesbrough vs Real Betis. Diallo on crutches, Smith was stretched off. Not light knocks or even medium knocks. We pulled out of a deal over a very similar issue in 2008. Motaeb (sp) was all set to join but was not to play in an upcoming derby. Play he did and the deal was off. But then couldn't it be that by us risking an injury we are showing how serious we are about wanting to keep him? Don't get me wrong, I believe at 25 million we do want to sell, but we've got our poker face on to make sure we get exactly what we want for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said: But then couldn't it be that by us risking an injury we are showing how serious we are about wanting to keep him? Don't get me wrong, I believe at 25 million we do want to sell, but we've got our poker face on to make sure we get exactly what we want for him. Yep. You only pull someone out of your plans when you're dotting your t's and crossing your i's on the deal. Otherwise you're in a weak negotiating position. And then what happens when you don't get an increased bid and the start of the season rolls around? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihai Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Davefevs said: Those final 4 you list, I think you’re basing this on club size and reputation. Norwich are in the free transfer market, West Brom haven’t recruited anyone (yet), Watford free transfers (£50k for Ince). As for Leeds, thoughts of their Director of Football having a £100m from player sales to reinvest, have been dashed as they have moved on loan, not for fees. There are some serious it worried fans. You maybe right about Leicester and Southampton, but still got several players who might get picked off by PL teams. I mean, all of these teams have better players than us but yea, the stability and the morale can be more important than quality over the course of the season. Luton made it with standard players, so... everything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Wolves currently on their training camp in Portugal it is logical that any deal would be concluded when they return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 22/07/2023 at 23:20, Mr Popodopolous said: Excellent by the admin on Bristol City Twitter given all the speculation. Yes he may well still go but we're handling this impeccably as a club. Major xredit to Scott too so far, some players throw their toys out when there's speculation linking with higher paying or PL clubs. Gotta be worth a couple more million to the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 10 hours ago, BLRed said: Reckon they could drop 30mill to blow others out of the water that are pissing around trying scrape together bare minimum Who bids £30m for a player who's price is £25m? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Silvio Dante Posted July 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 minute ago, CyderInACan said: Who bids £30m for a player who's price is £25m? 4 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCAL Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 10 hours ago, BLRed said: It won’t be wolves if they can’t even afford €15mill on another player due to FFP. They’ve sold Jiminez for only 5mill and will need to replace him so surely striker is priority. Personally, I expect Brighton to come to the table if they sell caicedo to chelsea. Reckon they could drop 30mill to blow others out of the water that are pissing around trying scrape together bare minimum Brighton being notoriously shrewd with their signings, I can't imagine that they'd just throw an extra £5m willy nilly, although it would be very nice. I feel like I've seen a lot of City fans recently that are berating Wolves for not paying the £25m straight up and trying to get Scott 'on the cheap', forgetting that negotiations in football take ages and never ever get accepted at the first bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Who bids £30m for a player who's price is £25m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Who bids £30m for a player who's price is £25m? Clubs that are afraid to haggle And possibly Mark Ashton 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnzFM Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 In what world are we talking about £5 million pounds like it’s loose change, disgusting isn’t it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 41 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Who bids £30m for a player who's price is £25m? Alex Ferguson, Jose Mourinho, Mark Ashton… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 12 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Supposing (God forbid) he gets injured in a pre-season friendly though. Deal off? It certainly can happen..Diallo reportedly got a bad one in a pre-season friendly this month, Tommy Smith for Middlesbrough vs Real Betis. Diallo on crutches, Smith was stretched off. Not light knocks or even medium knocks. We pulled out of a deal over a very similar issue in 2008. Motaeb (sp) was all set to join but was not to play in an upcoming derby. Play he did and the deal was off. Nah, I mean if the deal was in principle agreed then yeah, he wouldn't have played but if both clubs are close to an agreement but still not fully agreed then he's going to play as the move could be called off and then we send Scott into the next season playing without match fitness. There very much could be a deal in place, even in principal an agreement but without anything formal in place he's going to keep playing. When he doesn't play a game in which he normally would, that's when we have a deal in principle and some kind of formal, unannounced deal confirmed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 12 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Supposing (God forbid) he gets injured in a pre-season friendly though. Deal off? It certainly can happen..Diallo reportedly got a bad one in a pre-season friendly this month, Tommy Smith for Middlesbrough vs Real Betis. Diallo on crutches, Smith was stretched off. Not light knocks or even medium knocks. We pulled out of a deal over a very similar issue in 2008. Motaeb (sp) was all set to join but was not to play in an upcoming derby. Play he did and the deal was off. I think the Motaeb situation was slightly different. IIRC a deal had been agreed and the player had met with GJ and terms finalised, but he asked to go back to Egypt in order to "say his goodbyes", only for the club to learn that his goodbyes involved playing for his Egyptian club in a competitive match. If we had accepted £25m from Wolves ( or anyone else) and Alex had agreed personal terms and that he would move, then there is no way we would risk playing him in a friendly, let alone a local derby ( for young fans who don;t know what that is, it's that's a competitive match against Rovers!). 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Just wondering what this week holds for Scott's transfer. My best guess is an extra 25-30 pages on this thread! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, downendcity said: Just wondering what this week holds for Scott's transfer. My best guess is an extra 25-30 pages on this thread! I hope so .... I have 4.75 riding on it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted July 24, 2023 Admin Share Posted July 24, 2023 Monday Morning Thought: A lot of chat about not wanting this to drag on to the final week of the season but what if it does and we transfer our pre-season form into the League and sit there with wins over Preston & Brum at home and 4 points from the games at Millwall & Hull? Could Alex himself think “this could be worth a gamble”? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ian M said: Monday Morning Thought: A lot of chat about not wanting this to drag on to the final week of the season but what if it does and we transfer our pre-season form into the League and sit there with wins over Preston & Brum at home and 4 points from the games at Millwall & Hull? Could Alex himself think “this could be worth a gamble”? £2,500 per week and championship football, or £30/40/50k per week in the premier league and being financially secure for the rest of your life, is one heck of a gamble for a 19 year old! Would any of us take it? 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ian M said: Monday Morning Thought: A lot of chat about not wanting this to drag on to the final week of the season but what if it does and we transfer our pre-season form into the League and sit there with wins over Preston & Brum at home and 4 points from the games at Millwall & Hull? Could Alex himself think “this could be worth a gamble”? One thing I am certain of is that Alex has enjoyed and is enjoying his time at City. I am not sure that he’s itching to jump ship. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted July 24, 2023 Admin Share Posted July 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, downendcity said: £2,500 per week and championship football, or £30/40/50k per week in the premier league and being financially secure for the rest of your life, is one heck of a gamble for a 19 year old! Would any of us take it? Other factors come into play though, is his partner ready to follow him if she hasn’t yet moved in with him for example? And it’s not as if staying here for one year to give it a go means he’d never play in the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswoodactor Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, downendcity said: £2,500 per week and championship football, or £30/40/50k per week in the premier league and being financially secure for the rest of your life, is one heck of a gamble for a 19 year old! Would any of us take it? Surely if it gets closer to season kick off, we would be looking to offer him a new extended contract worth around 20k a week but with a nailed on buy out clause of 25m inserted. No idea what the details are on the current contract offer he has on the table from us. Edited July 24, 2023 by Kingswoodactor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted July 24, 2023 Admin Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Kingswoodactor said: Surely if it gets closer to season kick off, we would be looking to offer him a new extended contract worth around 20k a week but with a nailed on buy out clause of 25m inserted. No idea what the details are on the current contract offer he has on the table from us. I’d happily see him given parity with our top earner with a £25m non-promotion release clause built in. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ian M said: I’d happily see him given parity with our top earner with a £25m non-promotion release clause built in. Is that enough though when he has been playing U20 matches along side a Chelsea youngster with almost zero experience, who gets £40k a week? It must turn your head, even if you are as apparently level headed as Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbytheriver Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 He is holding out for a saudi offer.With all the players they are buying in 5 years time the premiership will be weaker than the downs league . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ian M said: Monday Morning Thought: A lot of chat about not wanting this to drag on to the final week of the season but what if it does and we transfer our pre-season form into the League and sit there with wins over Preston & Brum at home and 4 points from the games at Millwall & Hull? Could Alex himself think “this could be worth a gamble”? Even better than that - we won our first 4 league games and were top of the table at the start of 2020-21. Look how that season turned out. So I admire your optimism but a few games in August are a poor basis on which to make potentially life changing decisions, imo. Also, if someone offered to pay you 10 times your salary tomorrow, would you honestly be thinking "Is my partner ready to follow me" or "I think I'll give it another 12 months here and see how it goes" ? I agree it's not ideal this transfer is taking so long. But even if Scott left tomorrow and we signed someone asap, I doubt they'd be assimilated in time for our first game. So "we are where we are" and "it is what it is", whatever will be will be etc. When all is said and done, the most likely scenario facing us is that, come Preston, Alex Scott will be history and either Weimann or Williams will be in midfield instead. Oh dear. Edited July 24, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, johnbytheriver said: He is holding out for a saudi offer.With all the players they are buying in 5 years time the premiership will be weaker than the downs league . I remember when they were all going to Italy, Spain and then China, now is Arabia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, johnbytheriver said: He is holding out for a saudi offer.With all the players they are buying in 5 years time the premiership will be weaker than the downs league . Funnily enough, I've been thinking along these lines. I would have posted this earlier but various interruptions prevented me finalising it until now. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Even better than that - we won our first 4 league games and were top of the table at the start of 2020-21. Look how that season turned out. So I admire your optimism but a few games in August are a poor basis on which to make potentially life changing decisions, imo. Also, if someone offered to pay you 10 times your salary tomorrow, would you honestly be thinking "Is my partner ready to follow me" or "I think I'll give it another 12 months here and see how it goes" ? I agree it's not ideal this transfer is taking so long. But even if Scott left tomorrow and we signed someone asap, I doubt they'd be assimilated in time for our first game. So "we are where we are" and "it is what it is", whatever will be will be etc. When all is said and done, the most likely scenario facing us is that, come Preston, Alex Scott will be history and either Weimann or Williams will be in midfield instead. Oh dear. That was a strange season for everyone tbh. Season begin mid September, little period from mid September to early October, International break soon after- no fans. An injury list that hasn't been seen before, hasn't been seen since perhaps anywhere. James-Williams-Knight midfield not too bad, assume we will strengthen a bit in other areas too if Scott goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCAL Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 3 hours ago, downendcity said: Just wondering what this week holds for Scott's transfer. My best guess is an extra 25-30 pages on this thread! Of which about 3 posts are anything of note! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Could be agents playing games to speed things up etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) Or maybe nobody yet is willing to pay £25m or £25m the way we would like it and are trying to bounce him out for a bit less. Market moves quickly too, I expect Doyle and or McAtee will be on varied wish lists this summer. Edited July 24, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 36 minutes ago, Pezo said: I remember when they were all going to Italy, Spain and then China, now is Arabia. I don't think the Saudi teams can compete in European Champions League, so there'll be some reluctance for players who have their career in front of them as opposed to it being largely behind them. Hasn't Mbappe said he wants to stay in Europe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 4 hours ago, CyderInACan said: Who bids £30m for a player who's price is £25m? Peter Risdale's Leeds United 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ecko said: Could be agents playing games to speed things up etc It's probably more to do with making up homegrown numbers for European football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 49 minutes ago, downendcity said: Funnily enough, I've been thinking along these lines. I would have posted this earlier but various interruptions prevented me finalising it until now. Everyone has their price. The Saudis have the money to make it happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, BCFCAL said: Of which about 3 posts are anything of note! and they were about what position we will finish in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 56 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: That was a strange season for everyone tbh. Season begin mid September, little period from mid September to early October, International break soon after- no fans. An injury list that hasn't been seen before, hasn't been seen since perhaps anywhere. James-Williams-Knight midfield not too bad, assume we will strengthen a bit in other areas too if Scott goes. The point I was really making was - "a few games in August are a poor basis on which to make potentially life changing decisions" As for midfield without Scott, I think your phrase "not too bad" sums it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: The point I was really making was - "a few games in August are a poor basis on which to make potentially life changing decisions" As for midfield without Scott, I think your phrase "not too bad" sums it up. Yeah agree, can easily win a few in August and be a false dawn..or lose a few in August and come good later. It'll be okay and I would hope we would go back into the market too if Scott goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, downendcity said: Funnily enough, I've been thinking along these lines. I would have posted this earlier but various interruptions prevented me finalising it until now. It would be hilarious if this came to fruition. I would be laughing my head off. As the premier league has treated the EFL like dog sheet to see them in financial turmoil would be so sweet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, milo1111 said: It would be hilarious if this came to fruition. I would be laughing my head off. As the premier league has treated the EFL like dog sheet to see them in financial turmoil would be so sweet. Problem is, it would cause even bigger problems in the EFL as the little money that trickles down now would dry up, sending countless clubs into the brown stuff Think ITV digital collapse and the effect that had 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 47 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: The point I was really making was - "a few games in August are a poor basis on which to make potentially life changing decisions" As for midfield without Scott, I think your phrase "not too bad" sums it up. Our midfield, with no scott, and having to assume joe williams plays every week is bottom third of the championship, unfortunately! And thats assuming knight comes in and immediately becomes one of our top players,, which he might hopefully do?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Our midfield, with no scott, and having to assume joe williams plays every week is bottom third of the championship, unfortunately! And thats assuming knight comes in and immediately becomes one of our top players,, which he might hopefully do?! Are you seriously suggesting that if Scott is sold that in squad terms he won’t be replaced? That scenario is far less likely than either him leaving or him staying, as we would for the first time in years actually have decent funds to do so. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Are you seriously suggesting that if Scott is sold that in squad terms he won’t be replaced? That scenario is far less likely than either him leaving or him staying, as we would for the first time in years actually have decent funds to do so. I dunno? But we will be replacing a 20 odd million once in a generation midfielder with a 2/3 million midfielder? It fundamentally must be weaker? if/ when he leaves I would expect mahmeti to take scotts attacking midfield place, which hopefully he grows into. Its a shame in a lot of ways about what’s happened to benarous, that could have been his role, perhaps it might still be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, soultrader said: Everyone has their price. The Saudis have the money to make it happen And isn’t it sickening that all this money is theirs simply because of luck? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 22 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Our midfield, with no scott, and having to assume joe williams plays every week is bottom third of the championship, unfortunately! And thats assuming knight comes in and immediately becomes one of our top players,, which he might hopefully do?! Not quite convinced by the bottom third argument. You could also have a Naismith-James double pivot wirh Knight in front for one. Fitness however..another consideration for Naismith and hopefully not anymore but Williams. I believe we would go back into the market if Scott goes in any case. Perhaps we could look at loan kptions again finally to round off the squad. One more GK, CB and CM of a good level wouldn't go amiss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 26 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Our midfield, with no scott, and having to assume joe williams plays every week is bottom third of the championship, unfortunately! And thats assuming knight comes in and immediately becomes one of our top players,, which he might hopefully do?! Can't agree with that, Williams seems to get a lot of un deserved stick, Is he this seasons scapegoat? 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Can't agree with that, Williams seems to get a lot of un deserved stick, Is he this seasons scapegoat? He's not remotely in the same league, technique-wise, as Scott and James. So if we're serious about changing from a counter-attacking team to a possession based one, we need an upgrade and next summer, when he's out of contract, is the time to do so. Of course, every team needs its upbeat characters and perhaps Pearson will take a leaf out of Terry Cooper's book who, on signing Trevor Morgan a second time for City, explained that the big man was "good for the dressing room". Personally, I'd not recommend it. Edited July 24, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 26 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Can't agree with that, Williams seems to get a lot of un deserved stick, Is he this seasons scapegoat? Not really a new scapegoat, but hes clearly had major injury issues and cant have a consistent impact for a top half championship team who are hoping for the playoffs in my view? Without the power to his game hes limited to what he offers in my view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, milo1111 said: It would be hilarious if this came to fruition. I would be laughing my head off. As the premier league has treated the EFL like dog sheet to see them in financial turmoil would be so sweet. Unfortunately a reduction in TV revenue would also have a financial impact on the EFL as the money the Prem gives to the EFL would also reduce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Monkeh said: Peter Risdale's Leeds United Risdale paid to look after his goldfish! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: And isn’t it sickening that all this money is theirs simply because of luck? Back at the time of the 1970's oil crisis Western Governments charged scientists with the task of finding an alternative to petrol engines for cars to avoid being held to ransom by the middle eastern countries that controlled the oil supply. A team of Irish scientists discovered a way of powering cars using engines running on camel dung, only to then realise who controlled all the camels! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, downendcity said: Unfortunately a reduction in TV revenue would also have a financial impact on the EFL as the money the Prem gives to the EFL would also reduce It would drastically close the gap though. I don’t think they give the EFL that much do they?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Simon bristol said: Our midfield, with no scott, and having to assume joe williams plays every week is bottom third of the championship, unfortunately! And thats assuming knight comes in and immediately becomes one of our top players,, which he might hopefully do?! Just as well our attack is top third and our defence is too! Just watching the pre-season games, or even just seeing the team sheets, what makes you assume Joe Williams plays every week. I’m not even gonna venture into our respective opinions, because I know they will be different, just trying to gauge how you reach your conclusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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