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28 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Brighton are a similar sized club to be fair, the other two are tiny.

This transfer really hurts 

I think it's what Brighton used to be compared to where they are now which is frustrating, supporters have every right to be frustrated at our overall lack of progress.

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5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

The interesting thing about Brighton was, unlike the others they always had a large dormant fanbase

They were in the top flight from 1979-80 to 1982-83, reaching a Cup final.

Goldstone Ground being pulled from under them, playing at Gillingham then the Withdean put a major cap on their potential.

They were able to capitalise at just the right time.

Promotion also coincided with move to the Amex in 2010-11.

In 2011-12, attendances soared from about 7.5k to 20k and fairly sure other revenues also stepped up seeing their income rise by a factor of between 2.5 and 3- this can give a club significant momentum.

Ah well excuse my lack of knowledge then both of you .. I was actually chatting nonsense.. slightly before my time. I stand corrected.

Anyway Brentford and Bournemouth can do one. Haha 

 

edit: still think seeing where they're at and where we have been for the last 15 is a little annoying 

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8 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

It starts with the owner doesn't it. Look at Brighton & Brentford. The fact that the Brentford owner used to work for the Brighton owner says a lot about how good Tony Bloom is at what he does.

Completely, bloom is a good poker player and a rich business man but didn't know how to run the infrastructure of a football club so employed the best football people he could and listened to them.

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1 hour ago, luke_bristol said:

How does everyone reassess their expectations for the season? For me, the outside chance of the play offs (which I’m perfectly happy with given the lack of parachute payments) has been replaced with expectations of 14-17th and little to play for past February. How depressing.

Same as before, we were a stronger team with Scott but we aren't a 1 man team, 

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The way I look at this - is Scott 10 times better than Knight at Championship level? Ofcourse he isn’t - therefore we are right to sell at the right price.

The most important thing now is how we go about finding 3 more Jason Knights / Hayden Roberts level players.

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1 hour ago, wtf said:

What a building we would be building if, (even just going back a few seasons) we could have hung on to the likes of Brownhill, Webster, Kelly, Fammy, Smith, Morrell, A Semenyo, Alex Scott and others but no we ALWAYS sell our best under the pretex of building a promo challenging squad.

Well where is it that squad we are building? be sure any outstanding player this season will also be hovered up by anyone who wants to pass us by as we continously circle around this div. Sad Arrested Development GIF

Well this is all kinds of stupid

Smith is now 32 his legs have gone and is injury prone, if we relied on him we'd be in trouble

Brownhill would of left on a free as his contract would of expired

Webster would of left on a free as his contract would of expired

Fammy left on a free because his contract expired

Morrell isn't a championship player

Kelly would of left on a free as his contract would of expired

Semenyo would of left on a free as his contract would of expired

 

Please can you share the secret to the footballing world how you force players to stay at a club because you will make ******* billions

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25 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

It starts with the owner doesn't it. Look at Brighton & Brentford. The fact that the Brentford owner used to work for the Brighton owner says a lot about how good Tony Bloom is at what he does.

Poker? Or is he finished with that? ?

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1 hour ago, Malvern Red said:

Raise expectations to sell season cards

Sell best players to smallish teams overtaking us

Get loads of injuries

Finish lower table while another smallish team like Millwall get promoted 

Rinse and Repeat 

 

- Only a complete idiot wouldn’t have considered the possibility of Scott leaving and the club never promised otherwise.

- That smallish team has already overtaken us long ago, hence why they can afford the fee and the wages.

- Injuries are a fact of life for all teams, and all teams buy and sell.

- The huge fee gives the club a firm financial grounding after the difficult post-Covid period upon which to build, rather than risk an unhappy player who would ultimately leave for nothing. A component of any club working it’s way up is to both buy and sell.

- Show me a club that doesn’t sell its best players to higher level clubs for the right price.

TLDR; you’re talking rubbish mate.

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8 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

Well this is all kinds of stupid

Smith is now 32 his legs have gone and is injury prone, if we relied on him we'd be in trouble

Brownhill would of left on a free as his contract would of expired

Webster would of left on a free as his contract would of expired

Fammy left on a free because his contract expired

Morrell isn't a championship player

Kelly would of left on a free as his contract would of expired

Semenyo would of left on a free as his contract would of expired

 

Please can you share the secret to the footballing world how you force players to stay at a club because you will make ******* billions

Sorry Monkeh I agree with the post but the use of “of” when you mean “have” triggers me. I can cope with it once in a post but it’s driving me mental here!

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12 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

Well this is all kinds of stupid

Smith is now 32 his legs have gone and is injury prone, if we relied on him we'd be in trouble

Brownhill would of left on a free as his contract would of expired

Webster would of left on a free as his contract would of expired

Fammy left on a free because his contract expired

Morrell isn't a championship player

Kelly would of left on a free as his contract would of expired

Semenyo would of left on a free as his contract would of expired

 

Please can you share the secret to the footballing world how you force players to stay at a club because you will make ******* billions

All that says to me is that whoever is dealing with contracts dropped the ball... but we all know how badly our recruiting was during this period, if we didnt sell them we would be even more worse off for ffp right now.

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1 hour ago, wtf said:

What a building we would be building if, (even just going back a few seasons) we could have hung on to the likes of Brownhill, Webster, Kelly, Fammy, Smith, Morrell, A Semenyo, Alex Scott and others but no we ALWAYS sell our best under the pretex of building a promo challenging squad.

Well where is it that squad we are building? be sure any outstanding player this season will also be hovered up by anyone who wants to pass us by as we continously circle around this div. Sad Arrested Development GIF

“Anyone who wants to pass us by”.

They’ve already done that. Long ago. You make it sound like we’ve sold to a Championship play off rival.

When was the last time we sold our best players to a club that wasn’t already well ahead of us and capable of offering something we couldn’t?

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3 minutes ago, redkev said:

 

Creative ? , if so offer them a couple of quid and bobs your uncle ?

Bit of a general in midfield, can play any role centrally including AM. Creative? Has it in his locker certainly. Hull are keen too. Valued at around £3M but ooc next summer, I think.

Let's see if Knighty can swing it our way, if the links are true.

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Bournemouth - City head to head; Bourne 30 wins, 24 draws, City 37wins, on paper not a lot in the results; yet seemingly miles apart in transfer buying ability.

Why are, and respect to them, Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford etc in a different league to us? is it just poor manager selections on our part; we have the fans we have the ground, what are we doing so wrong ?

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2 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Bit of a general in midfield, can play any role centrally including AM. Creative? Has it in his locker certainly. Hull are keen too. Valued at around £3M but ooc next summer, I think.

Let's see if Knighty can swing it our way, if the links are true.

If this is the case , let’s start being ruthless , go in meet the valuation get him on board 

with all the doom & gloom of losing Scott and Conway being injured this would get the optimism levels back up and running , this year we really need momentum as I honestly think if we can stay in the mix until January with a strength in depth ( if we are lucky with injuries ) we could surprise a few in the run in 

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1 hour ago, SuperDziek said:

Great transfer for City and for Alex. Can’t argue with it, particularly if the Conway injury forced our hand a bit.

Hopefully we’ll now strengthen in the right areas and continue to progress up the league. 
 

After all, it’s all about progression, not regression. 

I’d argue we strengthen both the left and right areas if at all possible. And the middle. 

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2 minutes ago, wtf said:

Bournemouth - City head to head; Bourne 30 wins, 24 draws, City 37wins, on paper not a lot in the results; yet seemingly miles apart in transfer buying ability.

Why are, and respect to them, Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford etc in a different league to us? is it just poor manager selections on our part; we have the fans we have the ground, what are we doing so wrong ?

Preston were the greatest team in England at one point as were huddlesfield and Bradford park avenue were once in the top flight

It happens,

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1 hour ago, Ecko said:

Don't be bitter. 

This is why City are perennial underachievers. Don't be bitter about having to flog your best player to a smaller side in the PL? Mentality monsters we are. 

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11 minutes ago, wtf said:

Bournemouth - City head to head; Bourne 30 wins, 24 draws, City 37wins, on paper not a lot in the results; yet seemingly miles apart in transfer buying ability.

Why are, and respect to them, Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford etc in a different league to us? is it just poor manager selections on our part; we have the fans we have the ground, what are we doing so wrong ?

Trouble is that is heavily based on the long and distant past 

It only seems like yesterday our home game against them was on the verge of being cancelled due to them folding 

Let's just hope we get to play them again in the near future 

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3 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

This is why City are perennial underachievers. Don't be bitter about having to flog your best player to a smaller side in the PL? Mentality monsters we are. 

Apart from a very small number of clubs, everyone is a selling club

They're only smaller than us in terms of bums on seats and if football is really being judged on that, times are very desperate 

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2 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

This is why City are perennial underachievers. Don't be bitter about having to flog your best player to a smaller side in the PL? Mentality monsters we are. 

Key here is Premier league, no team outside the prem can compete,

If Plymouth were to go up and stay up, we wouldn't be able to compete with them,

It baffles me that people don't understand this

If you worked at Asda, but sainsbury came in and offered you 20 times your weekly wage, what would you do?

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I wish Alex all the very best. The most naturally gifted player I’ve ever seen play for us. What a talent he is and I will follow his career with interest. I genuinely hope he goes on to achieve all he deserves in the game.

Absolutely gutted he has gone but I am really struggling to understand those that genuinely believe we could have kept him. We are so far down the pecking order in the football food chain it’s untrue. I have to ask what makes anyone think we could keep him or any other of our players past or present that have developed and improved whilst here?

This one is harder to take than most and without going over old ground too much in years gone by we haven’t had any kind of succession planning. Hopefully now that’s changed and we can improve the squad, which let’s face it needed doing even with Scott. Unfortunately it’s the reality of football and has been for some time. Brentford are the obvious and excellent example of what succession planning can do and if implemented correctly what can be achieved.

I am well into my 30s and as a supporter we have achieved so little in that time. How anyone thinks we can genuinely convince players to stay here rather than play in the prem is beyond me. 
 

I trust we have got a good deal but we now need to be smart. Crucial remaining few weeks of the window which will now shape our season. All the best Scotty, you will very much be missed.

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2 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

This is why City are perennial underachievers. Don't be bitter about having to flog your best player to a smaller side in the PL? Mentality monsters we are. 

Historically they're probably smaller.

In the here and now they're wealthier, higher ranked and all importantly in the PL.

Hopefully now this gives us an opportunity to reject bids for key players for the next 2-3 years.

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Sad to see Alex go, but all the best to him. I think he'll be a top player in the EPL before long. There are a lot of positives out of the deal to look at. We are going to be an attractive prospect to promising youngsters at other clubs (if we weren't before).

 

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1 minute ago, Monkeh said:

Key here is Premier league, no team outside the prem can compete,

If Plymouth were to go up and stay up, we wouldn't be able to compete with them,

It baffles me that people don't understand this

If you worked at Asda, but sainsbury came in and offered you 20 times your weekly wage, what would you do?

Yeah I'm baffled here.

Can't believe someone would choose to triple their wage.

I'm more baffled at the people on this forum gayly wishing him his best as though he's not an opposition player now. Will never understand it personally. 

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The question is, what constitutes a "big" club? Is it fan base, ground, history or is it where they are in the pyramid?

In many ways we're bigger than Bournemouth & smaller than Derby  however the former nicked our best player & we nicked one of the latter's best players.

From a players perspective their motives are going to be a combo of a) the most dosh & b) playing at the highest level.  Unless they have offers which are comparable in those regards I don't think whether it's a "big" club or not comes into it.

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26 minutes ago, cityexile said:

SL being clear they met our valuation.

Sucks, but got to wish him well. Some teams have gone past us, lots have gone the other way and would have killed for this kind of deal.

 

 

We will get there, one day... #AlwaysBelieve

I remember when we sold Lita to Reading, thought the same then. One day we will get there, hopefully in my lifetime ? 

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3 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

Yeah I'm baffled here.

Can't believe someone would choose to triple their wage.

I'm more baffled at the people on this forum gayly wishing him his best as though he's not an opposition player now. Will never understand it personally. 

I think it has happened so many times that a lot on here are just resigned to it, personally once a player leaves I have little to no interest. I don't want them to fail by any means but why should I care whether he has a stellar career or not.

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1 hour ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Sad that we've become a feeder club to Bournemouth. Really shows how badly we've failed as a club to be consistently shipping our best players to a club like that. 

We've had 50odd million off them now.

We've hardly become a feeder club for Bournemouth because they've bought 3 players from us down the years. I don't recall it being suggested that Chelsea were a feeder club for us when we signed Kalas, Dasilva and Palmer. 

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38 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Sorry Monkeh I agree with the post but the use of “of” when you mean “have” triggers me. I can cope with it once in a post but it’s driving me mental here!

Well, you could of warned us beforehand and we would of avoided doing it.

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22 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

Yeah I'm baffled here.

Can't believe someone would choose to triple their wage.

I'm more baffled at the people on this forum gayly wishing him his best as though he's not an opposition player now. Will never understand it personally. 

Tbh if he does well we could get more money for one.

That aside, ignoring his exceptional talent, he has been as far as we know, a consumate pro- playing in pre-season, kicking up no fuss etc..that could have changed had it dragged on but he has conducted himself impeccably.

I don't often miss departing players, managers or even CEOs so much but Scott is an exception to the rule, Gould is one with respect to CEO and I NP will be as and when he goes.

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5 minutes ago, Lordofthebling said:

We will get there, one day... #AlwaysBelieve

I remember when we sold Lita to Reading, thought the same then. One day we will get there, hopefully in my lifetime ? 

I have been waiting 43 years, and that's probably more than a lifetime for most on here, I had high hopes for this season that we might just do it, but with Tommy Crocked and now Scott going I have a feeling I might be running out of time.

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16 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

This is why City are perennial underachievers. Don't be bitter about having to flog your best player to a smaller side in the PL? Mentality monsters we are. 

Bournemouth are not a smaller team they are much bigger than us they are prem 

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I think it's fine to be annoyed or angry at the system of the PL where they can offer salaries everyone else can only dream of and hoover up promising young players where their home clubs have no hope of holding on to them.

I think it's rather narrow minded to be annoyed at our club for existing in that system and having to play that game - that's life in football, for the moment at least. It doesn't make it right, but it's also kind of unavoidable.

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28 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

Yeah I'm baffled here.

Can't believe someone would choose to triple their wage.

I'm more baffled at the people on this forum gayly wishing him his best as though he's not an opposition player now. Will never understand it personally. 

Why would you not wish him to do well? A good season or two and City would benefit from a sell on clause

22 minutes ago, BCFC Rich said:

Wasn't he in the Bournemouth youth team after he left Southhampton? An expensive mistake on their end.  

Think there's more to it about whether Alex wanted to carry on with all the travelling etc involved and was falling out of love with football.

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34 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

Yeah I'm baffled here.

Can't believe someone would choose to triple their wage.

I'm more baffled at the people on this forum gayly wishing him his best as though he's not an opposition player now. Will never understand it personally. 

It’s in our interests that he goes and smashes it in the Premier League.

There’s no need for bitterness from us. 

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1 hour ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

We've hardly become a feeder club for Bournemouth because they've bought 3 players from us down the years. I don't recall it being suggested that Chelsea were a feeder club for us when we signed Kalas, Dasilva and Palmer. 

Chelsea were offloading their surplus, we've sold our best players to a team that could squeeze their whole ground into the Lansdown stand. 

I don't think it's unfair to highlight we're failed as a club to not keep our young stars away from, let's be brutally honest, pretty ordinary teams like Cardiff, Fulham and Bournemouth. 

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I wish Alex Scott every success and I really hope Bournemouth is a stepping stone to an even bigger move.

Unlike several other players in recent City history, he kept his head down among all of the speculation, worked hard and kept going.

He's definately been a role model for the next crop of young players in the squad and has shown the pathway and the club plan is now back on track.

Yes, it's painful to think that Bournemouth are now a bigger club than us but for now it's true. They took their opportunities when they came while we know where we made our mistakes.

I'm certain that the good times are coming and a £25 million pound cheque in the bank is certainly going to help.

Good luck Alex. I'll look forward to watching you on Match of the Day.

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58 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Chelsea were offloading their surplus, we've sold our best players to a team that could squeeze their whole ground into the Lansdown stand. 

I don't think it's unfair to highlight we're failed as a club to not keep our young stars away from, let's be brutally honest, pretty ordinary teams like Cardiff, Fulham and Bournemouth. 

That's the modern football economic ecosystem sadly.

Bournemouth gazumped bids for players ahead of Leeds and Lazio thus summer- both bigger clubs than us let alone them historically speaking.

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7 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Chelsea were offloading their surplus, we've sold our best players to a team that could squeeze their whole ground into the Lansdown stand. 

I don't think it's unfair to highlight we're failed as a club to not keep our young stars away from let's be brutally honest, pretty ordinary teams like Cardiff, Fulham and Bournemouth.  the premier league

Sounds pretty silly when you say it that way, we will never prevent a player going to the premier league, just won't happen, we can't offer enough in wages and we're not close enough to promotion to be able to, if we held onto players to try and achieve that then we'd be failing financially instead.

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1 hour ago, ZiderEyed said:

Yeah I'm baffled here.

Can't believe someone would choose to triple their wage.

I'm more baffled at the people on this forum gayly wishing him his best as though he's not an opposition player now. Will never understand it personally. 

Maybe because if he smashes it he'll get a bigger move which will be great for us with a sell on clause.

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18 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said:

I wish Alex Scott every success and I really hope Bournemouth is a stepping stone to an even bigger move.

Unlike several other players in recent City history, he kept his head down among all of the speculation, worked hard and kept going.

He's definately been a role model for the next crop of young players in the squad and has shown the pathway and the club plan is now back on track.

Yes, it's painful to think that Bournemouth are now a bigger club than us but for now it's true. They took their opportunities when they came while we know where we made our mistakes.

I'm certain that the good times are coming and a £25 million pound cheque in the bank is certainly going to help.

Good luck Alex. I'll look forward to watching you on Match of the Day.

Yeh, setting up goals for Semenyo..

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Tbh if he does well we could get more money for one.

That aside, ignoring his exceptional talent, he has been as far as we know, a consumate pro- playing in pre-season, kicking up no fuss etc..that could have changed had it dragged on but he has conducted himself impeccably.

I don't often miss departing players, managers or even CEOs so much but Scott is an exception to the rule, Gould is one with respect to CEO and I NP will be as and when he goes.

Agreed. Behaved far more professionally than say, Famara, who appeared to goon strike for a month. 

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35 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Chelsea were offloading their surplus, we've sold our best players to a team that could squeeze their whole ground into the Lansdown stand. 

I don't think it's unfair to highlight we're failed as a club to not keep our young stars away from, let's be brutally honest, pretty ordinary teams like Cardiff, Fulham and Bournemouth. 

Ordinary maybe but at the time of signing our players at a higher level than us and able to offer a significant wage increase. Whilst not all players are lured by money the overwhelming majority want to play at the highest level. Our failure to keep them was not down to our standing as a club, but to our standing in the league pyramid, which like it or not they were part of. That's how it goes. We enjoy the players while we have them and as they move on so do we. 

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13 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

Agreed. Behaved far more professionally than say, Famara, who appeared to goon strike for a month. 

Let alone what we see at other clubs, we see unsettled players refusing to train, unable to play etc.

I don't think Diedhiou, Palmer or even Bakinson did that.although I have zero inside knowledge.

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21 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Genius transfers.

Semenyo & Scott: cost us nothing

Sold for £35,000,000.

Sold to a Premiership bottom feeder and if either do even slightly well they'll leave within 12 months and City will benefit hugely.

Win/Win

Makes it slightly easier to take.. If he went straight to that “top side” the likelihood of a sell on would be lower.. but at a club like Bournemouth.. if he is the real deal.. that big club will come in and we get more money down the line ?‍♂️

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22 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Ordinary maybe but at the time of signing our players at a higher level than us and able to offer a significant wage increase. Whilst not all players are lured by money the overwhelming majority want to play at the highest level. Our failure to keep them was not down to our standing as a club, but to our standing in the league pyramid, which like it or not they were part of. That's how it goes. We enjoy the players while we have them and as they move on so do we. 

Quite agree. same method as ourselves buying Atkinson,Sykes,Mehmeti for example

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