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3 minutes ago, redkev said:

What is the busiest pub around the ground now , due to work tend to have to go pretty much straight in and grab a beer in the ground or just outside , 

is the Spanish still going strong 

Coopers, Rising Sun and The Robins I’d say. All of these are pretty busy!

Spanish bar is still going too. I remember going in there around 2010ish. Think it must have been just starting out, as I remember it being pretty quiet and mixed with some away fans. Got chatting to a few Charlton fans in there…

Good little boozer.

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2 hours ago, Seventeen said:

He didn’t sack his staff :laugh:. He told them they could find alternative employment if they wanted too and their jobs would be waiting for them when they re-opened. Amazing how things get portrayed

Absolutely this. It was distorted out of all proportion. 
I share a hatred for his Br@@it views but he was not guilty of sacking staff during lockdown. 

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3 hours ago, TomF said:

I think culture has changed - smoking ban for one has changed the environment of a pub, they all need to offer some sort of food service as side revenue and really I think covid was the final nail with many people realising that they can buy a 12 pack of cans for less than couple of pints down the pub. 

Not for me, can’t sit at home drinking beer, it’s just not right.  For me beer and pubs go hand in hand.

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1 hour ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

A shame, spent many a recent Sunday Funday on a route of The Ship, The Grosvenor, The White Hart, Apple Tree, Barley Mow and the others mentioned (although last time I was in The Grosvenor all beer was served in cans, defeating the object of going out for a 'proper' pint)

£1.50 a can though and Cheddar Valley £2.50 a pint.Cash only mind!

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10 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said:

Ive had a much more embarrassing, thing happen to me in a pub with a machine, I put the coins in the machine in the toilets, nothing came out, I discretely beckoned the barman over and explained my situation, in a really loud voice, so the twenty or so people and my date could hear he shouted the bloke who fills up the condom machine comes on a Wednesday, thanks a lot cupid I thought 

 

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4 hours ago, TomF said:

I think culture has changed - smoking ban for one has changed the environment of a pub, they all need to offer some sort of food service as side revenue and really I think covid was the final nail with many people realising that they can buy a 12 pack of cans for less than couple of pints down the pub. 

Pub used to be an escape from the wife, now us younguns just don’t get married, beers round our houses whenever we fancy it. As you say, a 5th of the price, + with the internet we get to pick our own music, tv etc etc 

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11 hours ago, tin said:

Love it. I’ve got so many tales of being in that golden triangle of pubs, most of which involve the Grosvenor. Ain’t been in there for a while, mind. Wonder if Clive’s still running it.

The first time I ever walked in there I was offered some loot nicked from Asda and some ‘freshly’ caught rabbit wrapped in newspaper! Standard! ?

Clive moved on a few years ago.

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20 hours ago, Davefevs said:

They definitely had the Horse and Groom…and if you frequented that on a lunchtime during the late 90s there’s a strong chance our paths crossed.  There were quite a few “Council boys” who went in there.

Late to this thread. I also used to pop in the Horse and Groom when Gary Williams ran it. I worked in the Architects on Hill St, just behind. I used to play golf with Gary. Lost touch with him now sadly. 

Him and his Dad Alan were lovely chaps. Always happy to chat footy. 

Pint in the Groom and sandwiches from Woodes, then sit on the council green and chat up the girls from the offices. ☺️ Fun times ?

On a tangent...one of the four pubs which shut in Bemmy is opening again today. Can't remember which one it is though ?

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2 minutes ago, spudski said:

Late to this thread. I also used to pop in the Horse and Groom when Gary Williams ran it. I worked in the Architects on Hill St, just behind. I used to play golf with Gary. Lost touch with him now sadly. 

Him and his Dad Alan were lovely chaps. Always happy to chat footy. 

Pint in the Groom and sandwiches from Woodes, then sit on the council green and chat up the girls from the offices. ☺️ Fun times ?

On a tangent...one of the four pubs which shut in Bemmy is opening again today. Can't remember which one it is though ?

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16 hours ago, TomF said:

I think culture has changed - smoking ban for one has changed the environment of a pub, they all need to offer some sort of food service as side revenue and really I think covid was the final nail with many people realising that they can buy a 12 pack of cans for less than couple of pints down the pub. 

 

Looking at my local, Covid removed a lot of the OAP regulars - men who'd grown up as pub-goers.

A couple passed away, but for more it was a case of just breaking their regular pub-going habits and not getting back into them. Some have health issues that make them wary about catching Covid from such a crowded place.

The loss of these over-70s has been counteracted somewhat by a big increase in tourists staying in the area and dining out. UK tourism is still booming in Somerset, often people popping down for short-stays, and of course there is a much bigger mark-up on food than alcohol. 

The landlord says he's more-or-less got revenue up by 20% from what it was in 2019. Unfortunately, with his energy bills up eight-fold, he is making less money than then.  Like at least half of the pubs I know, it's up for sale, but there aren't a lot of folk interested in buying.  

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17 hours ago, GrahamC said:

It is.

That & the Barley Mow are old school Bedminster.

The juxtaposition of Bristol Loaf & the Apple Tree must be unlike anywhere else in the city.

I’ve only ever been in the Apple Tree the once (with Anthony, as it goes) - it felt like you were having a (rough) pint in someone’s living room. Proper old skool though, a tray of cheese and pork pies on the bar and lots of comings and goings, but a great little pub. 

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18 hours ago, Seventeen said:

He didn’t sack his staff :laugh:. He told them they could find alternative employment if they wanted too and their jobs would be waiting for them when they re-opened. Amazing how things get portrayed

 
Refusing to pay employees, you missed that bit - not much different to sacking?? Despicable man.
 
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Unacceptable that Wetherspoons has refused to pay its 40,000 employees until it receives its Govt loan - potentially in late April - after first refusing to lock down altogether. If bosses disregard employees' wellbeing then Govt should take tougher action to force compliance.


 

 

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3 hours ago, spudski said:

one of the four pubs which shut in Bemmy is opening again today. Can't remember which one it is though

 

3 hours ago, CrackingCheeseGromit said:

Black Cat

I've not seen anything about that , where was this announced ?

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11 minutes ago, spudski said:

It was on the radio this morning. They were interviewing the landlord of the Three Lions. He mentioned it and who the new couple were running it. 

Haven't been there for a few games, but we used to pop in on the way past after leaving the Albert. Great Jukebox , made plans for Saturday but will try and look in next Saturday game. Thanks for the info.

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Not Bristol but it really makes me think when I go back to Taunton these days. There used to (allegedly) be 92 pubs in the town and suburbs but I doubt there`s a third of that now. The challenge back in the day was to have a pint in each over the course of a weekend but to my knowledge no-one ever managed it mainly due to the time it took to get to the outlying ones like The Harp, The Shepherds Rest. The Waggon & Horses or The Oxford (no all day opening back then) - gave it a bloody good go once or twice mind!

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Looking at the history of Bemmy, it is clear to all that the expansion was mainly down to the coal mining that started properly in the 1700s and by 1800 there were about eighteen collieries. With a huge draw for labour, Bedminster grew rapidly and so did the pubs. To get some idea of how many there were have a look at https://bristolslostpubs.com/bedminster/ and see how many you can count, and how many are still (just) going. The miners certainly had a good choice.

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1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Not Bristol but it really makes me think when I go back to Taunton these days. There used to (allegedly) be 92 pubs in the town and suburbs but I doubt there`s a third of that now. The challenge back in the day was to have a pint in each over the course of a weekend but to my knowledge no-one ever managed it mainly due to the time it took to get to the outlying ones like The Harp, The Shepherds Rest. The Waggon & Horses or The Oxford (no all day opening back then) - gave it a bloody good go once or twice mind!

Didn’t bridgwater hold a record or was up near the top for the amount of pubs it had for the size of the town . In some streets there we’re literally a pub every five or six doors down in the middle of town 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said:

Didn’t bridgwater hold a record or was up near the top for the amount of pubs it had for the size of the town . In some streets there we’re literally a pub every five or six doors down in the middle of town 

 

 

I'm fairly sure Pill at one stage must have held the record per capita, I saw a list, and now I admit this takes some believing there were 21 pubs yes 21! in the village or nearby.

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5 hours ago, Barrs Court Red said:

In someways, the pub trade was a victim of circumstance, in others it was a victim of its own hubris.  
 

A victim of culture and economics. Young people don't drink as much as their elders and wet pubs simply aren't viable anymore, generally. 

Pretty much a third of UK pubs gone since 1980. 

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7 hours ago, pillred said:

I'm fairly sure Pill at one stage must have held the record per capita, I saw a list, and now I admit this takes some believing there were 21 pubs yes 21! in the village or nearby.

Where I used to live in Hatherleigh just outside Okehampton they did a Millennium project to track down all the pubs that used to be in the town and I think they located about 27. The population was only around 800 back then and a lot of the `pubs` were just a plank across some barrels in someone`s front room but there were a hell of a lot. I think there were something like six breweries too.

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On 31/03/2023 at 22:41, sticks 1969 said:

Didn’t bridgwater hold a record or was up near the top for the amount of pubs it had for the size of the town . In some streets there we’re literally a pub every five or six doors down in the middle of town 

 

 

 

Canterbury famously had 365 pubs at one time. As its modern population is 50,000, it has to be in with a shout on that score.

 

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1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Canterbury famously had 365 pubs at one time. As its modern population is 50,000, it has to be in with a shout on that score.

 

Chipping Sodbury has ten drinking establishments on the same high street, in less than 1/2 mile. Add Yate and Old Sodbury a 2.8 mile radius and you have 23 an enormous amount compared to many places per capita.

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1 minute ago, spudski said:

Chipping Sodbury has ten drinking establishments on the same high street, in less than 1/2 mile. Add Yate and Old Sodbury a 2.8 mile radius and you have 23 an enormous amount compared to many places per capita.

True. But nobody with any regard for taste or their own well being ever touches the Boot or the Portcullis!

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6 minutes ago, spudski said:

Chipping Sodbury has ten drinking establishments on the same high street, in less than 1/2 mile. Add Yate and Old Sodbury a 2.8 mile radius and you have 23 an enormous amount compared to many places per capita.

As a local like me you will know that Wickwar just up the road once had 13 pubs ( only one now) and was known as a village "of great drunkenness '. As I drive through I can spot about 5 buildings that were once pubs....the rest must have just been a barrel in someone's front room.

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19 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

True. But nobody with any regard for taste or their own well being ever touches the Boot or the Portcullis!

I'll give you the Portcullis...but I'm hearing better reports re the Boot in recent months. Haven't been there myself tbh...but others I know said it's better than before. They even had 2 petanque courts out the back last year ?

The ones that have gone downhill in the last couple years imo, are the Squire...now a ' food' pub that's very expensive for what it is, ( drinks extortionate by comparison to most of the street ) plus very clicky...and the Horseshoe... previous owners ruined it, lost all their locals that now drink in the Grapes, and the new manager, nice lad, struggling to find a balance. Pushing it as a food pub...but failing sadly. 

10 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

As a local like me you will know that Wickwar just up the road once had 13 pubs ( only one now) and was known as a village "of great drunkenness '. As I drive through I can spot about 5 buildings that were once pubs....the rest must have just been a barrel in someone's front room.

Nuts I know...just the Buthay ( Fox? ) now? 

Re the Horseshoe in Sodders going downhill...it started when the owners took on the Dinny Winks as well... up the road from Wickwar.  Fell out with owners, lost money etc etc. Everything was a fast buck. 

They used to have a sign outside saying, ' come in a stranger, leave as a friend '...ended up being the complete opposite. Pretty much every regular left. 

 

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9 minutes ago, spudski said:

I'll give you the Portcullis...but I'm hearing better reports re the Boot in recent months. Haven't been there myself tbh...but others I know said it's better than before. They even had 2 petanque courts out the back last year ?

The ones that have gone downhill in the last couple years imo, are the Squire...now a ' food' pub that's very expensive for what it is, ( drinks extortionate by comparison to most of the street ) plus very clicky...and the Horseshoe... previous owners ruined it, lost all their locals that now drink in the Grapes, and the new manager, nice lad, struggling to find a balance. Pushing it as a food pub...but failing sadly. 

Nuts I know...just the Buthay ( Fox? ) now? 

Re the Horseshoe in Sodders going downhill...it started when the owners took on the Dinny Winks as well... up the road from Wickwar.  Fell out with owners, lost money etc etc. Everything was a fast buck. 

They used to have a sign outside saying, ' come in a stranger, leave as a friend '...ended up being the complete opposite. Pretty much every regular left. 

 

Tbh I only go in the Steakhouse bit of the Squire, and the food is excellent there. I don’t understand trying to make the Horseshoe a food pub - it’s just too small. Just needs to be a decent drinking pub, and historically (well considering it’s not really that old) has been good as that.

Brilliantly, in the horseshoe a few months ago somebody said they were having a “Voluntary Disco” that evening. No idea what that was but wished I’d stayed around for that.. 

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45 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

True. But nobody with any regard for taste or their own well being ever touches the Boot or the Portcullis!

portcullis did a cracking sunday dinner carvery about 10 years ago....if im thinking of the right pub mind bottom of high st bars either side of a courtyard ....could have been a cracking pub

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54 minutes ago, spudski said:

Chipping Sodbury has ten drinking establishments on the same high street, in less than 1/2 mile. Add Yate and Old Sodbury a 2.8 mile radius and you have 23 an enormous amount compared to many places per capita.

Sodbury High Street many a wild night spent up there. Still get up there once or twice a month. Doesn't get as busy as it use too but still have some good nights up there. Only problem is the Tudor Raj (curry house at the top) going down hill.

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7 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Tbh I only go in the Steakhouse bit of the Squire, and the food is excellent there. I don’t understand trying to make the Horseshoe a food pub - it’s just too small. Just needs to be a decent drinking pub, and historically (well considering it’s not really that old) has been good as that.

Brilliantly, in the horseshoe a few months ago somebody said they were having a “Voluntary Disco” that evening. No idea what that was but wished I’d stayed around for that.. 

Squire is pretty much that...a steak house these days. Shame..I've had good and bad experiences. 

Food wise the Thai and Italian ( Albanian) is generally consistent. The Latter being ' British' , not authentic Italian. 

As for the Shoe...they now have two rooms upstairs for meals. Now called the ' Top of the hill'  wine bar and restaurant '. ?? Menu is very basic pub grub. Not sure how they are running it, as it was previously allegedly closed down before, for not having adequate fire escapes. Nothing has changed. If there is a kitchen fire, the only escape,  is past the kitchen door in the corridor, down some dodgy stairs,  or jump out the first story window ?? First night of opening the chef walked out ?

Shame, as the lad running it is a lovely lad. Like you say...if it went back to being a proper drinking pub with log fires ( fireplaces have recently been closed down as previous owner bodged flue, making it unsafe...bodge it and scarper merchant ??

It was a great drinking pub...then the tented village ( Sodbury Mosque) got erected in the garden, the far end became like Steptoes yard attracting rats. The Dinny Winks saga...it just spiralled. 

Can't imagine what sort of disco that was. Nothing surprises me there now. 

I sincerely hope they turn it around. 

 

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2 minutes ago, CS Red said:

Sodbury High Street many a wild night spent up there. Still get up there once or twice a month. Doesn't get as busy as it use too but still have some good nights up there. Only problem is the Tudor Raj (curry house at the top) going down hill.

Tudor Raj is absolutely awful now sadly.  Wouldn't eat there if you paid me. 

Sodders needs some decent eating establishments now. Pubs good...but food not so. I've tried getting a tapas menu started in one place, but the owner is hesitant. There's definitely opportunities to be had there, if someone invested properly, as it's now become a place where people visit and lunch etc etc.

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I’m sure Portishead has about 15-20 drinking establishments now , 

quite often get some away fans in the spoons , and if memory serves me correctly Barnsley fans take 1 possibly 2 coaches to portishead been doing it for a while - possibly the workman’s ( not sure )

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2 hours ago, redkev said:

I’m sure Portishead has about 15-20 drinking establishments now , 

quite often get some away fans in the spoons , and if memory serves me correctly Barnsley fans take 1 possibly 2 coaches to portishead been doing it for a while - possibly the workman’s ( not sure )

West Brom have used the poacher aswell as the Albion this season. I guess due to there big car parks for coaches 

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8 hours ago, redkev said:

I’m sure Portishead has about 15-20 drinking establishments now , 

quite often get some away fans in the spoons , and if memory serves me correctly Barnsley fans take 1 possibly 2 coaches to portishead been doing it for a while - possibly the workman’s ( not sure )

Not the workman's mate but have been known in the plough, poacher and spoons, don't know why they don't do the old mill as they have a huge car park as well

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49 minutes ago, frenchred said:

Not the workman's mate but have been known in the plough, poacher and spoons, don't know why they don't do the old mill as they have a huge car park as well

Can you seriously imagine a coach trying to get in and out off the old mill car park ?

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On 12/04/2023 at 20:04, CS Red said:

Sodbury High Street many a wild night spent up there. Still get up there once or twice a month. Doesn't get as busy as it use too but still have some good nights up there. Only problem is the Tudor Raj (curry house at the top) going down hill.

Yep, agree regarding the Tudor Raj, hasn’t been good since before Covid, big change of staff. A few beers in the Horseshoe makes up for it though!

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9 minutes ago, East End Old Boy said:

Reckon it’s easier than the Albion as, apparently, a couple of WBA coaches were there for the cup game - missed seeing them as I was already in the Coopers!

Not at all just go in the wrong way off the round about easy as pie. 

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On 01/04/2023 at 07:25, Lanterne Rouge said:

Where I used to live in Hatherleigh just outside Okehampton they did a Millennium project to track down all the pubs that used to be in the town and I think they located about 27. The population was only around 800 back then and a lot of the `pubs` were just a plank across some barrels in someone`s front room but there were a hell of a lot. I think there were something like six breweries too.

As probably this forum's least well known Devonian, I am of course aware of your good self as one of its better known Devon residents, but I had no idea you lived in Hatherleigh, where I grew up and went to school. When were you there, if you don't mind me asking? 

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17 hours ago, Porto Red said:

As probably this forum's least well known Devonian, I am of course aware of your good self as one of its better known Devon residents, but I had no idea you lived in Hatherleigh, where I grew up and went to school. When were you there, if you don't mind me asking? 

We were there for about twelve years from the mid 90s to 2008 (I think!). We used to live at Moor View and Mrs LR was the warden for the council bungalows. I wonder if we know each other? I don`t recall coming across any other reds in my time there - plenty of Janners but no City!

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14 hours ago, Posset red said:

That round about has plenty of issues. People don’t seem to give way to people coming from gordano. If your in the Albion all you hear all night is people beeping 

If your in the Albion your probably on your Own , not the busiest , 

always thought it was a decent pub - residents of portishead obviously don’t 

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Just now, redkev said:

If your in the Albion your probably on your Own , not the busiest , 

always thought it was a decent pub - residents of portishead obviously don’t 

It gets busy regularly just everyone buggers off and besides they don’t stay open late. I normally start the night there 

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Tap & Barrel reopening tomorrow, so just the Albert to go, and interest there too apparently.

Both the Tap and the Albert were very busy and popular pubs not that long ago, hopefully the locals support them and they succeed under new management.

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43 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Tap & Barrel reopening tomorrow, so just the Albert to go, and interest there too apparently.

Both the Tap and the Albert were very busy and popular pubs not that long ago, hopefully the locals support them and they succeed under new management.

I quite often walk past the Tap, does seem fairly busy, lots of underage puffer jackets a while back :yes:

We go in the Albert, it hasn't been busy on match days for a while. Though it does look like they were doing things to get people in on the evening.
I wonder if the prices will be the same. Last time it was £3:20 for Red Stripe.

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1 hour ago, 1960maaan said:

I quite often walk past the Tap, does seem fairly busy, lots of underage puffer jackets a while back :yes:

We go in the Albert, it hasn't been busy on match days for a while. Though it does look like they were doing things to get people in on the evening.
I wonder if the prices will be the same. Last time it was £3:20 for Red Stripe.

The Albert really was a great pub when Ian Storrer was the landlord, people would travel from all over Bristol for the music upstairs, not sure it's ever been the same since.

The Tap was at one time probably my favourite pub in the area - loads to choose from then - but it seemed to get more and more run down in recent years.

Btw, what was the Albert like when you were last there? I heard when it changed to the Albert Lounge the old bar was completely ripped out and they were concentrating on attracting families so not my idea of a pub and I haven't been back.

 

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