Plymouth.

[stephenkibby.]

Without playing this week promotion looking nearer ,Sheff Wed have picked up 2 points in 4 games Barnsley beat at Exeter.

They have only one team in the top half to play,in the top two all season deserve to go up.

Have sold 38.000 for Wembley on Sunday. (Nearly Gas levels) Similar season to us in 2015.

I for one would welcome them back, always enjoyed the atmosphere in games against them. Have to say tho i lived in Devon for many years and had mates that supported them. Might not appeal to most on here.

[1960maaan]

Got to be favourites for top 2 now, great effort.

6 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said:

Have sold 38.000 for Wembley on Sunday. (Nearly Gas levels)

 

But the G*s managed to take 40k* without opening the top tier , bet Plymouth don't do that. 

 

*in their dreams 

Edited March 29, 2023 by 1960maaan

[GrahamC]

Even the most optimistic Argyle fan wouldn’t have expected Wednesday, who were unbeaten back to October before the international break, to pick up one point in 3 away games, especially when considering 2 of them were Forest Green & Cheltenham.

Basically if they match Wednesday & Ipswich’s results from here they’re up.

Really hope they do it.

 

Edited March 29, 2023 by GrahamC

[Port Said Red]

1 minute ago, TomF said:

Just annoying this is giving Ipswich a chance to grab 2nd place.   

But it does give Cheltenham the chance to finish above the gas. 

[BCFCGav]

I went to uni in Plymouth so it’d be great for me personally, I know the city well. That’d be a very fun away day. Hope they do it.

[steveybadger]

As an Exeter resident I have mixed feelings but on balance another SW team with us is a good thing IMO. And they do play some cracking stuff.

[redkev]

They will certainly bring a few here , think them playing us means more to them than us aka Swindon 

don’t do it for me ,

rovers first then Cardiff that’s it for me 

[BCFCGav]

One for those who obsess over trophies/honours (what it’s all about at the end of the day!), if they win League 1 they will be the club to have done so most in English history (taking League 1 to be the third tier - in any of its previous guises). It’d be their fifth title, taking them ahead of a handful of teams on 4, ourselves included. 
 

 

[Pearcy]

On 11th March Sheffield Wednesday won to go top on the league with 2 games in hand. Tonight they've played their second game in hand and sit 2nd having only picked up 2 points out of 12. It's crazy how quickly things can change. Totally the wrong time to be having that run in form.

[Bris Red]

Always lively against Plymouth, I’ve always got the impression they care about us more than we do about them though. Wouldn’t class games against them as derbies as such but they always have a bit of needle about them certainly off the pitch aswell as on it..
 

Be interesting to see how they do next season if they come up, i think the gulf between League 1 and the Championship is as big now as it’s ever been.

It almost seems to be the norm for clubs to come up and either go straight back down or struggle. They will need some serious investment if they want to be competitive at this level. Good luck to them though.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Bris Red

[petehinton]

42 minutes ago, TomF said:

Just annoying this is giving Ipswich a chance to grab 2nd place.   

Ipswich have a pretty horrific run in. Won 6 on the spin and still only 3rd. Would be v surprised if it’s not the top 2 how it current is. 

[mozo]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Cheltenham game is actually the turning point for Wednesday. They were 2-0 down and salvaged a point, which will feel like a win, particularly as Barnsley lost on Tuesday. 

I'm going to make a rash prediction that Wednesday beat Lincoln 3-0 and eventually pip Plymouth to the title.

[Harry]

I was at the Cheltenham v Weds match tonight. 
It was a thoroughly enjoyable game of football and played in a good atmos - from both sets of fans. 
Chelts really gave Weds a scare here. Deserved the 2 goal lead and I was a bit gutted to see them let it slip. 
Alfie May was fantastic tonight. Works so so hard and is a total pest. 
I think Mozo could be right - Wednesday’s comeback late in this game could give them a boost, whereas at 70 mins they were looking dead and buried and short of ideas. 
Flint came on to nod in their first. Bakinson started but i didn’t even realise until about 30 minutes in!! I’m certain there were boos from the Weds fans when he got subbed too!! And Hunt was average and went off injured near the end. 

Whilst I was sad for Chelts to concede the lead, it was also tinged with a happiness that this 1 point could keep Ipswich down!! 

[Red-Robbo]

I'm not a fan of Plymouth. With the exception of about 2% of its land mass it's grimmer than a 19th Century fairy tale. 

Also, I hate the way its fans behave on the very occasional times they happen to be in the same division as us. All this "Argyle the Pride of the West Country" shite. 

You aren't even in the West Country. You're the wrong side of the Fosse Way. Get back to West Wales, you green-clad clowns. 

[Malago]

4 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

I'm not a fan of Plymouth. With the exception of about 2% of its land mass it's grimmer than a 19th Century fairy tale. 

Also, I hate the way its fans behave on the very occasional times they happen to be in the same division as us. All this "Argyle the Pride of the West Country" shite. 

You aren't even in the West Country. You're the wrong side of the Fosse Way. Get back to West Wales, you green-clad clowns. 

The one good thing I would say about Plymouth is their fans really hate the gas.  And when I say really hate, I mean really hate.

[Port Said Red]

4 hours ago, Malago said:

The one good thing I would say about Plymouth is their fans really hate the gas.  And when I say really hate, I mean really hate.

[Unan]

Always liked Plymouth, late 20s for context, passionate well supported team. Whenever we’ve had cup games I’ve had a nose on their forums and always seem pretty grounded and knowledgeable, bar a few but that’s the same everywhere.
 

Can’t say I feel any rivalry but again maybe that’s an age thing, without sounding patronising (he says as he’s about to be patronising), I’m sure if they had been above us for x amount of years a fair few of our fans would be hostile when we played them.

Edited March 30, 2023 by Marcus Aurelius

[weepywall]

16 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

Always liked Plymouth, late 20s for context, passionate well supported team. Whenever we’ve had cup games I’ve had a nose on their forums and always seem pretty grounded and knowledgeable, bar a few but that’s the same everywhere.
 

Can’t say I feel any rivalry but again maybe that’s an age thing, without sounding patronising (he says as he’s about to be patronising), I’m sure if they had been above us for x amount of years a fair few of our fans would be hostile when we played them.

There is certainly some history between us and them.

[CyderInACan]

*************************************** POP *************************************

(blast from the past for those who remember!) 

[GrahamC]

3 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

*************************************** POP *************************************

(blast from the past for those who remember!) 

Totally!

I get the comments about it not being a Derby for us (even Brentford is nearer, FFS) but unless they start playing in France we’re still their nearest big club & so I get why it’s a big deal to them & their away support (which is phenomenal anyway) would be huge in BS3 for a Championship game.

We already play a shedload of Northern sides, personally I can live without playing all of Wigan, Blackpool, Blackburn, Preston, Rotherham & Hull for having another game against a West Country team.

No surprise that they really hate Rovers, let’s face it, who doesn’t?

[2015]

We have a healthy rivalry with both Plymouth and Swindon when they're in our Leagues. Nothing too volatile or strong, just good banter usually and a bit of an edge to the matches.

FWIW I've not minded Plymouth for a few years now, they've had their woeful years in League 2's doldrums doing nothing, be good to see them back in the Championship for a match against us. Also would be a good away day

[CyderInACan]

2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

No surprise that they really hate Rovers, let’s face it, who doesn’t?

Quite. Plymouth played the g*s the same day as we travelled to Reading on the train. Lots of Plymouth in the Knights Templar and apart from a few bellend "youth" outside, they were wishing us all the best for the day and we obviously reciprocated. Great day out for us even though, with sad predictability, City lost. Would be great to see them back in the Championship at a full Ashton Gate. 

[redsince1994]

I would absolutely love for Plymouth to go up.

Moved here in 2012, just after they went down and haven't been in the same division since! Would be such an easy away day for me.

In fact the only time I have seen City here since moving was a pre-season friendly.

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

30 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

We already play a shedload of Northern sides, personally I can live without playing all of Wigan, Blackpool, Blackburn, Preston, Rotherham & Hull for having another game against a West Country team.

I don’t particularly like Plymouth and I despise Cardiff but I’d rather be in the same division as them over Wigan, Huddersfield, Barnsley or any other Northern club that we invariably have to play away on a Tuesday night.

Better atmospheres both home and away.

[spudski]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Totally!

I get the comments about it not being a Derby for us (even Brentford is nearer, FFS) but unless they start playing in France we’re still their nearest big club & so I get why it’s a big deal to them & their away support (which is phenomenal anyway) would be huge in BS3 for a Championship game.

We already play a shedload of Northern sides, personally I can live without playing all of Wigan, Blackpool, Blackburn, Preston, Rotherham & Hull for having another game against a West Country team.

No surprise that they really hate Rovers, let’s face it, who doesn’t?

When I lived up near Manchester, i realised how many pro clubs are so near to one another. Being up North certainly gives you plenty of easy options to visit grounds.

In an ideal world, and not taking into account leagues, what are the nearest and easiest professional teams to travel to from Bristol?

Gas, Newport, Cardiff, FGR, Cheltenham, Yeovil, Swindon....

This map gives a good idea.

 

[italian dave]

It always feels entirely un-natural setting off for an away game heading south. 

[GrahamC]

2 minutes ago, italian dave said:

It always feels entirely un-natural setting off for an away game heading south. 

I always remember driving to Yeovil on a night the season that we ran away with the league under Cotts.

Going through Shepton Mallet for a League One game that was about a further 20 miles away was pretty surreal.

[Bristol Oil Services]

11 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

I'm not a fan of Plymouth. With the exception of about 2% of its land mass it's grimmer than a 19th Century fairy tale. 

Also, I hate the way its fans behave on the very occasional times they happen to be in the same division as us. All this "Argyle the Pride of the West Country" shite. 

You aren't even in the West Country. You're the wrong side of the Fosse Way. Get back to West Wales, you green-clad clowns. 

I hope they come up. And go straight back down again (perhaps their owner will also be "surprised" by the wages demanded in the Championship)

[CodeRed]

51 minutes ago, spudski said:

When I lived up near Manchester, i realised how many pro clubs are so near to one another. Being up North certainly gives you plenty of easy options to visit grounds.

In an ideal world, and not taking into account leagues, what are the nearest and easiest professional teams to travel to from Bristol?

Gas, Newport, Cardiff, FGR, Cheltenham, Yeovil, Swindon....

This map gives a good idea.

 

Nice map but Ricardo isn't familiar with London....he's got Chelsea and Millwall mixed up,  Millwall are shown in West London! and Chelsea are indicated to be in the Isle of Dogs (north of the river) where the actual Millwall docks are, rather than Bermondsey. (which is wrong anyway)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 30, 2023 by CodeRed

[W-S-M Seagull]

12 hours ago, Bris Red said:

Always lively against Plymouth, I’ve always got the impression they care about us more than we do about them though. Wouldn’t class games against them as derbies as such but they always have a bit of needle about them certainly off the pitch aswell as on it..
 

Be interesting to see how they do next season if they come up, i think the gulf between League 1 and the Championship is as big now as it’s ever been.

It almost seems to be the norm for clubs to come up and either go straight back down or struggle. They will need some serious investment if they want to be competitive at this level. Good luck to them though.

But for them it is a derby pretty much. Bar Exeter/Torquay we are their closest club so you can see why for them a game against us is a big deal. 

Really looking forward to having them back in the same league as us. Always enjoy games against them as can guarantee that both away ends will sell out.

[Robbored]

Home Park along with the County Ground and old Griffin Pk is one of the grounds that I’ve visited the most. It’s quite a walk thru the park but worth it when I bought the delicious burger with mushrooms from an outside vendor.

Strange what fans remember about away games……….

[Porto Red]

12 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

I'm not a fan of Plymouth. With the exception of about 2% of its land mass it's grimmer than a 19th Century fairy tale. 

Also, I hate the way its fans behave on the very occasional times they happen to be in the same division as us. All this "Argyle the Pride of the West Country" shite. 

You aren't even in the West Country. You're the wrong side of the Fosse Way. Get back to West Wales, you green-clad clowns. 

I was born in Torquay and used to go raving in the Plymouth Warehouse, but I still laughed at this. It's not an easy place to love.

[archie andrews]

1 minute ago, Porto Red said:

I was born in Torquay and used to go raving in the Plymouth Warehouse, but I still laughed at this. It's not an easy place to love.

Was it an old sports hall with seating going up both or one of the sides im talking about 89/90......

[Oh Louie louie]

I know a bloke who judges away grounds by how many mushrooms he gets robbo, don't think he's got all his buttons tbh..

[ralphindevon]

I've spent all season hoping they go up but as they get nearer to their dream I'm reverting to hating them. 

Even when i lived in Bristol, Plymouth were my least liked Devon club, still are. Hate the place and have never seen us win there. 

COYR

[Robbored]

21 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said:

I know a bloke who judges away grounds by how many mushrooms he gets robbo, don't think he's got all his buttons tbh..

I remember buying a delicious kebab outside Selhurst Pk……….City lost 2-0 that day. Mark Shail was at CB and got beaten in the air for the second goal.

[Ska Junkie]

They're the West country's 2nd biggest club. They'll still be the West country's 2nd biggest club, just in the same division as the biggest.

Good on them I say. 

[bcfcredandwhite]

The Gas anthem (Goodnight Irene) was born from one of their games against Plymouth apparently…… so I’ve been told. 

[SecretSam]

15 hours ago, stephenkibby. said:

Without playing this week promotion looking nearer ,Sheff Wed have picked up 2 points in 4 games Barnsley beat at Exeter.

They have only one team in the top half to play,in the top two all season deserve to go up.

Have sold 38.000 for Wembley on Sunday. (Nearly Gas levels) Similar season to us in 2015.

I for one would welcome them back, always enjoyed the atmosphere in games against them. Have to say tho i lived in Devon for many years and had mates that supported them. Might not appeal to most on here.

I thought the Slags locked that many out each week?

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, ralphindevon said:

I've spent all season hoping they go up but as they get nearer to their dream I'm reverting to hating them. 

Even when i lived in Bristol, Plymouth were my least liked Devon club, still are. Hate the place and have never seen us win there. 

COYR

We had a truly dreadful record down there for years.

However in our last 4 league visits we’ve won 2 (in 2003 & 2009) & drawn one.

The dates of those wins though show how infrequently we have played them recently.

 

[SecretSam]

14 hours ago, Bris Red said:

Always lively against Plymouth, I’ve always got the impression they care about us more than we do about them though. Wouldn’t class games against them as derbies as such but they always have a bit of needle about them certainly off the pitch aswell as on it..
 

It's odd, you'd think they'd be more focused on Exeter. Mind you, it's miles from Plymouth to anywhere.

I recall it being a bit of a dump, although that was a while back...

[Robbored]

51 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

It's odd, you'd think they'd be more focused on Exeter. Mind you, it's miles from Plymouth to anywhere.

I recall it being a bit of a dump, although that was a while back...

Plymouth is lovely  My daughter was at uni there and I used to visit her regularly. I knew Plymouth pretty well before she went there and it’s a great place..

We almost moved there with work about 30 years ago but circumstances at that time dictated that we ended up not going

[Chicken George]

12 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Plymouth is lovely  My daughter was at uni there and I used to visit her regularly. I knew Plymouth pretty well before she went there and it’s a great place..

We almost moved there with work about 30 years ago but circumstances at that time dictated that we ended up not going

There was this one time, I was going to do something. But in the end, I didn’t. 

[ralphindevon]

34 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

We had a truly dreadful record down there for years.

However in our last 4 league visits we’ve won 2 (in 2003 & 2009) & drawn one.

The dates of those wins though show how infrequently we have played them recently.

 

I was living abroad fir those wins, you have to go back to 1967 for our last league win at Home Park before that. 

Hopefully that'll change next season

[Bristol Oil Services]

39 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Plymouth is lovely  My daughter was at uni there and I used to visit her regularly. I knew Plymouth pretty well before she went there and it’s a great place..

We almost moved there with work about 30 years ago but circumstances at that time dictated that we ended up not going

The drunks, boozers and alkies of Plymouth were the winners in all that, then?

[Merrick's Marvels]

2 hours ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

The Gas anthem (Goodnight Irene) was born from one of their games against Plymouth apparently…… so I’ve been told. 

Correct. Originally sung by Plymouth fans, then nicked by the gAss.

Not the first or last thing they've nicked either. "Gypsys, Tramps and Thieves" is really the song they should sing - sums them up perfectly. 

Edited March 30, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels

[redkev]

6 hours ago, Robbored said:

Home Park along with the County Ground and old Griffin Pk is one of the grounds that I’ve visited the most. It’s quite a walk thru the park but worth it when I bought the delicious burger with mushrooms from an outside vendor.

Strange what fans remember about away games……….

What do you remember about going to Wembley with Rovers 

[Robbored]

44 minutes ago, redkev said:

What do you remember about going to Wembley with Rovers 

Feeling like a fish out or water.

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

Feeling like a fish out or water.

Why did you feel like water?

What’s a “fish out”?

[TDarwall]

7 hours ago, GrahamC said:

We had a truly dreadful record down there for years.

However in our last 4 league visits we’ve won 2 (in 2003 & 2009) & drawn one.

The dates of those wins though show how infrequently we have played them recently.

 

My 1st ever away game was meant to be Argyle away. Got to the outskirts of Plymouth & the coach turned around as the game had been called off. The rearranged fixture was midweek, they needed to win for promotion & we got stuffed 4 -0.  Think Tynan got a hat trick. Naively I was impressed with our away following, till they scored & it was clear loads of their fans who couldn't get tickets were in our end! 

[Robbored]

47 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Why did you feel like water?

What’s a “fish out”?

It’s an idiom Graham………..

[GrahamC]

11 minutes ago, Robbored said:

It’s an idiom Graham………..

Well, a “fish out of water” certainly is..

[Red Shadow]

8 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Correct. Originally sung by Plymouth fans, then nicked by the gAss.

Not the first or last thing they've nicked either. "Gypsys, Tramps and Thieves" is really the song they should sing - sums them up perfectly. 

Well, they are Pirates aren't they.

[Malago]

13 hours ago, GrahamC said:

We had a truly dreadful record down there for years.

However in our last 4 league visits we’ve won 2 (in 2003 & 2009) & drawn one.

The dates of those wins though show how infrequently we have played them recently.

 

Competitively we’ve played them 62 times in 102 years.  The gas have played them 109 times over the same period.

[Red-Robbo]

20 hours ago, Robbored said:

Plymouth is lovely  

 

Christ, if you think that, God alone knows what the part of Nailsea you live in must be like. 

Some nice villages nearby mind you. The Cornish-side is well-known, but I like the Devon coast from Bovisands to Warren Point, 

[DaveF]

22 hours ago, Robbored said:

I remember buying a delicious kebab outside Selhurst Pk……….City lost 2-0 that day. Mark Shail was at CB and got beaten in the air for the second goal.

You should write a book.

[devoncider]

23 hours ago, ralphindevon said:

I've spent all season hoping they go up but as they get nearer to their dream I'm reverting to hating them. 

Even when i lived in Bristol, Plymouth were my least liked Devon club, still are. Hate the place and have never seen us win there. 

COYR

Exeter over Plymouth for me every day of the week and twice on a Sunday. Cornish ****s

[ralphindevon]

23 minutes ago, devoncider said:

Exeter over Plymouth for me every day of the week and twice on a Sunday. Cornish ****s

Yes, and Torquay over both if we can still count them.

[Robbored]

59 minutes ago, devoncider said:

Exeter over Plymouth for me every day of the week and twice on a Sunday. Cornish ****s

Plymton is a is another nice part in the area. Close to Derriford Hospital and on the edge of Dartmoor.

[devoncider]

59 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Plymton is a is another nice part in the area. Close to Derriford Hospital and on the edge of Dartmoor.

I have awful memories/connotations of both Derriford Hospital and Dartmoor so that's not really convincing me 

[RedRock]

Talking about Devon football. 

Was out walking from my partner’s house with the hound yesterday. Met a bloke, as you do down here, with a Bristol City jacket on. Got chatting, became apparent …Mark Ashton’s father!  
 
Anyhow, by the end of the chat he had sold me a dozen Championship-ready footballers for a bargain price. If anyone from the Devon area wants to borrow them let me know. 

Coincidentally, there’s an Ipswich Town supporting lady I bump into quite frequently down here. As you do, I chatted to her about our ex-CEO. Somewhat alarmingly during the chat with MAs father, I found that he has also chatted to her. I just want to place on record now, for the benefit of certainty, that I think Mark Ashton is the most wonderful CEO that City had the privilege of employing, and our loss is very much Ipswich’s gain. 

[Robbored]

31 minutes ago, RedRock said:

Talking about Devon football. 

Was out walking from my partner’s house with the hound yesterday. Met a bloke, as you do down here, with a Bristol City jacket on. Got chatting, became apparent …Mark Ashton’s father!  
 
Anyhow, by the end of the chat he had sold me a dozen Championship-ready footballers for a bargain price. If anyone from the Devon area wants to borrow them let me know. 

Coincidentally, there’s an Ipswich Town supporting lady I bump into quite frequently down here. As you do, I chatted to her about our ex-CEO. Somewhat alarmingly during the chat with MAs father, I found that he has also chatted to her. I just want to place on record now, for the benefit of certainty, that I think Mark Ashton is the most wonderful CEO that City had the privilege of employing, and our loss is very much Ipswich’s gain. 

The Tractor Boys have seen thru him yet - it took us quite a while to realise what he was truly like. Comments like “it’s communication not consultation” went down like a lead balloon with the SC&T. 

[Ronnie]

Memories of Argyle come back with Bill Shortt in goal, Jumbo Chisholm centre half, Maurice Tadman centre forward and Gordon Astall on the wing. Saw them play Hull City with Raich Carter as player manager. Must have been late forties/ early fifties, where have all the years gone?

[Lanterne Rouge]

It`s always refreshing when I go to Plymouth to see how many Argyle shirts you see around the place compared to those of the `big clubs`. It`s the same in Exeter TBF ( Grecians ones obviously not Argyle!)

[Lanterne Rouge]

Just watching the build up to the Pizza trophy final on Westcountry TV and it just occurred to me that if Plymouth win it and win League 1 would they be the only club other than us to do that double?

[GingerClyde]

On 29/03/2023 at 22:18, BCFCGav said:

I went to uni in Plymouth so it’d be great for me personally, I know the city well. That’d be a very fun away day. Hope they do it.

 

Same here. I was there during the amazing seasons they had at the beginning of the 2000's..it was mental! Looking forward to going back down there next season

[Porto Red]

Bloody grockles

 

[BCFCGav]

36 minutes ago, GingerClyde said:

 

Same here. I was there during the amazing seasons they had at the beginning of the 2000's..it was mental! Looking forward to going back down there next season

I was there more recently - don’t recall them doing much of note during my 4 years! But as you say it’ll be great to get back to the City. I was excited to go back to my old drinking spots - before remembering I’m not a 20 year old student anymore and would look very out of place

[sticks 1969]

8 hours ago, BCFCGav said:

I was there more recently - don’t recall them doing much of note during my 4 years! But as you say it’ll be great to get back to the City. I was excited to go back to my old drinking spots - before remembering I’m not a 20 year old student anymore and would look very out of place

And probably not allowed in them as city are playing there that day 

[Lanterne Rouge]

A brilliant couple of weeks if you`re a Plymouth fan. Still joint top after Wednesday have played three games they would have expected to win and only got two points from. I bet most of the janners wouldn`t have hoped for that even in their wildest dreams. Ipswich & Barnsley still coming on strong though - that defeat at Exeter on Tuesday doesn`t seem to have knocked them back.