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Spurs deserved nothing from that game. Conte was right about their attitude. No complaints about either sending off  (can't raise your arms or make studs up tackles) or the penalty but Kane's overreaction to the gentle push in the face was embarrassing. Floats like a bee stings like a butterfly comes to mind. 

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18 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Spurs deserved nothing from that game. Conte was right about their attitude. No complaints about either sending off  (can't raise your arms or make studs up tackles) or the penalty but Kane's overreaction to the gentle push in the face was embarrassing. Floats like a bee stings like a butterfly comes to mind. 

You can guarantee the reaction to it would be different if it was a foreign player and not the England captain.

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2 hours ago, Super said:

You can guarantee the reaction to it would be different if it was a foreign player and not the England captain.

Kane got smacked in the face. If he wants to roll around clutching his face then so be it. There are no laws against that.

He was smacked in the face and the red card was the most obvious red card you'll ever see. 

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9 hours ago, BCFCGav said:

Very enjoyable Monday night of entertainment. Name me a more painful club to support than Spurs. Everything goes tits up.

FFS - Bristol City. Stockport. Scunthorpe. Bolton. Sunderland. Bradford. The list goes on...

Cry me a river, Spurs apologists.

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7 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Kane got smacked in the face. If he wants to roll around clutching his face then so be it. There are no laws against that.

He was smacked in the face and the red card was the most obvious red card you'll ever see. 

It's a clear red yes but smacked in the face? Really?

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10 hours ago, TonyTonyTony said:

Errr. Let me think …

Do you really think that? I'm a bit surprised! We're mid-table in the second tier and on the up, in terms of City historically we're doing pretty well. Spurs are a supposed 'big 6' team that are this countries laughing stock for their weak mentality and ability to throw away all good things in record time, and can't win a trophy for love nor money. We've lifted silveware more recently than them! I know which I'd rather support :city:

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33 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Do you really think that? I'm a bit surprised! We're mid-table in the second tier and on the up, in terms of City historically we're doing pretty well. Spurs are a supposed 'big 6' team that are this countries laughing stock for their weak mentality and ability to throw away all good things in record time, and can't win a trophy for love nor money. We've lifted silveware more recently than them! I know which I'd rather support :city:

We won the Johnson's Paint Pot trophy, since when Spurs have been in the Champions League final.

That's a real leap of faith comparison.

 

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7 minutes ago, downendcity said:

We won the Johnson's Paint Pot trophy, since when Spurs have been in the Champions League final.

That's a real leap of faith comparison.

 

Rather win the JPT than lose the UCL, 1 trophy to nil ? the point I was trying to make is it’s all very relative to the club. By our standards things are pretty rosy, whereas they’re having a nightmare. Of course they’re bigger and better than we are but they’re in a horrible moment. That’s all I was saying, no need to panic ?

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11 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Spurs deserved nothing from that game. Conte was right about their attitude. No complaints about either sending off  (can't raise your arms or make studs up tackles) or the penalty but Kane's overreaction to the gentle push in the face was embarrassing. Floats like a bee stings like a butterfly comes to mind. 

Gentle push ? stuck his fingers in his eyes, even if by accident that's gonna hurt for a bit

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18 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Rather win the JPT than lose the UCL, 1 trophy to nil ? the point I was trying to make is it’s all very relative to the club. By our standards things are pretty rosy, whereas they’re having a nightmare. Of course they’re bigger and better than we are but they’re in a horrible moment. That’s all I was saying, no need to panic ?

Behave.

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21 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Gentle push ? stuck his fingers in his eyes, even if by accident that's gonna hurt for a bit

He went down to help ensure the red card nothing more nothing less, he didn't lose the use of his legs because of the pain in his eyes!  
 

Personally I agree it's a red, but I don't agree with Kanes reaction to get a player sent off, it's cheating, everyone knows it, the question is whether you think it's justified and would you be happy if a City player did the same?

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24 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Gentle push ? stuck his fingers in his eyes, even if by accident that's gonna hurt for a bit

You honestly think that was enough to send him to the floor? It's a clear red yes but all a bit embarrassing by Kane.

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12 hours ago, Super said:

You can guarantee the reaction to it would be different if it was a foreign player and not the England captain.

I think that Kane has really let himself down here. It's one thing for the Latino's to fake an injury but when the England captain joins in it is so disappointing. I thought he was better than that.

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49 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said:

I think that Kane has really let himself down here. It's one thing for the Latino's to fake an injury but when the England captain joins in it is so disappointing. I thought he was better than that.

Agreed.

Doubtful Rooney (England captain, club captain & striker) would have gone down like that. Shearer definitely would not have.

I would be very keen to hear Shearer's opinion on the incident. Kane probably feeling very stupid this morning if he has seen the replay.

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7 minutes ago, Rob k said:

yeah maybe - but they are clearly being told to do go down the same with any other player from other clubs are. 

Yes it's part of the game but doesn't mean it's right. Other sports must laugh.

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Can not believe the reaction people have had to what Kane done! Yet it's not good but EVERYONE does it. If it was the other way round Everton fans would be loving it. It was also a clear red, not as if he dived and deceived the referee. 

Not sure why Kane gets so much stick from English fans. 

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9 minutes ago, Seventeen said:

Can not believe the reaction people have had to what Kane done! Yet it's not good but EVERYONE does it. If it was the other way round Everton fans would be loving it. It was also a clear red, not as if he dived and deceived the referee. 

Not sure why Kane gets so much stick from English fans. 

Probably because we are quick to slate foreign players for doing it. I do agree about Everton fans as they had years of Richarlison doing it.

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43 minutes ago, Seventeen said:

Can not believe the reaction people have had to what Kane done! Yet it's not good but EVERYONE does it. If it was the other way round Everton fans would be loving it. It was also a clear red, not as if he dived and deceived the referee. 

Not sure why Kane gets so much stick from English fans. 

Because in this country we have a peculiar habit of actively looking to go after our own. Not just football, but all sports.

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5 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Because in this country we have a peculiar habit of actively looking to go after our own. Not just football, but all sports.

Does Kane get stick from English fans? 

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The problem is if a big show isn't made of any transgressions they tend not to get acted upon. Same with penalties, if a player is clipped in the box and tries to stay on his feet a penalty isn't given. In fact VAR don't even look at it. But if at the slightest touch the player goes down, then if the ref doesn't give it at least VAR looks at it, sees there was contact and the pen is given.

During the World Cup when Maguire, iirc, was rugby tackled to the ground in the box he got up and apart from a look at the ref did little to highlight it. VAR didn't even look at it yet it was a nailed on penalty! But pound to a penny, had Maguire stayed down clutching various parts of his anatomy and other England players confronted the culprit and made a show of the incident, VAR would definitely have looked at it and given a penalty.

I see on here plenty of times posters complaining about City or England players not being savvy enough in getting decisions go our way. When, God forbid, an England player does just that, then he gets unjustified stick. Well done Harry Kane, more power to your elbow. After all, he wasn't at fault, all he did was ensure the Everton player who did transgress the rules got the correct punishment for it. 

 

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I'm not saying that I want to go back to the days of Vinnie Jones type tackles as they are reckless, but I would love to return to the days when players took it all as part of the game and actively didn't react to bad challenges or even not so bad challenges in the case of Kane last night, note the tackle on Cantona is criminal but Cantona is up quicker than Vinnie Jones!  This would not happen now

 

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7 hours ago, handsofclay said:

The problem is if a big show isn't made of any transgressions they tend not to get acted upon. Same with penalties, if a player is clipped in the box and tries to stay on his feet a penalty isn't given. In fact VAR don't even look at it. But if at the slightest touch the player goes down, then if the ref doesn't give it at least VAR looks at it, sees there was contact and the pen is given.

During the World Cup when Maguire, iirc, was rugby tackled to the ground in the box he got up and apart from a look at the ref did little to highlight it. VAR didn't even look at it yet it was a nailed on penalty! But pound to a penny, had Maguire stayed down clutching various parts of his anatomy and other England players confronted the culprit and made a show of the incident, VAR would definitely have looked at it and given a penalty.

I see on here plenty of times posters complaining about City or England players not being savvy enough in getting decisions go our way. When, God forbid, an England player does just that, then he gets unjustified stick. Well done Harry Kane, more power to your elbow. After all, he wasn't at fault, all he did was ensure the Everton player who did transgress the rules got the correct punishment for it. 

 

This is the main problem now. It is completely the fault of decades of simulation, but it has resulted in decisions not being given unless players go down like they have been shot.

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