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Mark Hughes, Roy Keane, Chris Hughton , Mick McCartney & Sam Alleradyce.

Pearson gets lumped in with some of the old-fashioned managers who relied on discipline and giving players a hard time . He demands a lot but he's a lot smarter than that and generally all the players who have played for him are quite glowing in their praise for his man management. 

I'm not saying all the managers above are old school but we did pick the right guy from those who would be labelled 'experienced'  and one who has been motivated (and stubborn) enough to transform the Club at all levels without whinging about lack of funds.  He's brought in academy players out of necessity to some extent but he's done it willingly and astutely.

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We’re lucky to have Pearson in my view. The more I see his interviews the more he impresses me. He’s very honest, says it as it is and his deep knowledge of the beautiful game and what it takes to build a successful team is there for all to see.

It’ll be a sad day when he retires or moves on.
 

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1 hour ago, downendcity said:

Didn't he get their groundsman to leave the grass lingerie in the last 15-20 yards to the goallines so they could hit long balls that would hold up fir their forwards to chase down?

GJ might have been involved in this!

 

He used to turn off the hot water supply in the away changing rooms too.

In hindsight I’m glad that Chris Hughton never managed us… although I really wanted him at the time.

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8 minutes ago, Wanderingred said:

He used to turn off the hot water supply in the away changing rooms too.

In hindsight I’m glad that Chris Hughton never managed us… although I really wanted him at the time.

Sliding doors syndrome?

It did look for all the world that Hughton was the nailed on choice and almost unanimous favourite among fans.

However, had we got him we probably wouldn't have got Pearson, who seems to have been doing well in the tough circumstances he inherited post LJ and MA. 

 

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17 minutes ago, Robbored said:

We’re lucky to have Pearson in my view. The more I see his interviews the more he impresses me. He’s very honest, says it as it is and his deep knowledge of the beautiful game and what it takes to build a successful team is there for all to see.

It’ll be a sad day when he retires or moves on.
 

As much as Mark Ashton impressed you ?,  I seem to remember you were so taken with him you called him Mr C harisma .,..........no such nickname for Nige though? ?

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1 minute ago, CodeRed said:

As much as Mark Ashton impressed you ?,  I seem to remember you were so taken with him you called him Mr C harisma .,..........no such nickname for Nige though? ?

Two very different people CR. I can’t imagine Nige would have got  along with Ashton for a minute. Unlike me and many others Nige would have seen thru him right away.

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2 hours ago, downendcity said:

Didn't he get their groundsman to leave the grass lingerie in the last 15-20 yards to the goallines so they could hit long balls that would hold up fir their forwards to chase down?

GJ might have been involved in this!

 

LJ would of measured it 

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5 hours ago, Pearcy said:

Tony Mowbray.

Crap everywhere he goes. Baffles me how he keeps getting jobs in football.

 

Blige.  Mowbray is someone I really like and would’ve loved him here.  Made from a similar cloth to Nige.

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Houghton - on paper, I can see why it was appealing. I just don't think he'd have worked here.

Our fans tend to warm to more salt-of-the-earth types (GJ, SC, NP) - and don't warm to people who aren't naturally charismatic and/or talk in fluffy detail (SO'D, LJ, Coppell). With that in mind, I don't think Houghton would've been a good fit. 

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31 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Blige.  Mowbray is someone I really like and would’ve loved him here.  Made from a similar cloth to Nige.

It’s a common misconception from people. They take Mowbrays image and assume his teams will play like Mick McCarthy’s teams. In actual fact his teams play attacking fast touch football.

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5 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Houghton - on paper, I can see why it was appealing. I just don't think he'd have worked here.

Our fans tend to warm to more salt-of-the-earth types (GJ, SC, NP) - and don't warm to people who aren't naturally charismatic and/or talk in fluffy detail (SO'D, LJ, Coppell). With that in mind, I don't think Houghton would've been a good fit. 

Hodgson got the hospital pass of all time from him.

Arrived as his mate’s assistant, we were going bust, had players on big money whose days were long behind them & kids, plus Moller & Harford who we were then made to sell.

Made what Russell Osman had to work with look like Barca.

Houghton just really didn’t know the English market, Harford was an excellent signing but otherwise he either signed shite (Peter Devine, anyone?) or players he knew from Sweden like Moller.

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3 hours ago, CodeRed said:

Danny Cowley

Paul Ince

Scott Parker (just for those cardigans)

Alan Curbishly

Paul Tisdale

Steve Evans 

John Terry

Frank Lampard

Anybody who ever played for or managed the Gas (TC the honourable exception)

John Ward got us promoted!

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30 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Hodgson got the hospital pass of all time from him.

Arrived as his mate’s assistant, we were going bust, had players on big money whose days were long behind them & kids, plus Moller & Harford who we were then made to sell.

Made what Russell Osman had to work with look like Barca.

Houghton just really didn’t know the English market, Harford was an excellent signing but otherwise he either signed shite (Peter Devine, anyone?) or players he knew from Sweden like Moller.

Yes apologies, meant Chris *Hughton

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Steve McClaren. How has he not been mentioned yet?

League Cup for Boro, fair enough, but other than that has robbed a living as a number 1. At great expense.

I’ve often worried about the possibilities of him coming here given he’s an ex City player and has had a downward career trajectory post England national team.

Very much a number 2 or 3.

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22 hours ago, 2015 said:

After listening to Radio Bristol for the lasy few years post match I would have to say most Yeovil managers.

Darren Way, Darren Sarll, Mark Cooper. That's why they are on their way to the 6th tier.

Listening to Mark Cooper on the way home the other week I think he was asked why do you think you're staying up and he said 'because I have to', not the most convincing answer. ? And looking very bad for them now.

Also got to agree with the Scott Parker shout, has 2 promotions on his cv but he had 2 of the best teams in the league with parachute money and maybe harshly I am just not convinced by the way he speaks. A good chance he flops at a club like City.

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On 09/04/2023 at 15:05, Robbored said:

We’re lucky to have Pearson in my view. The more I see his interviews the more he impresses me. He’s very honest, says it as it is and his deep knowledge of the beautiful game and what it takes to build a successful team is there for all to see.

It’ll be a sad day when he retires or moves on.
 

What has this got to do with the whole point of this thread..?!

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16 hours ago, Andre_The_Giant said:

Steve McClaren. How has he not been mentioned yet?

League Cup for Boro, fair enough, but other than that has robbed a living as a number 1. At great expense.

I’ve often worried about the possibilities of him coming here given he’s an ex City player and has had a downward career trajectory post England national team.

Very much a number 2 or 3.

Yesh but Shteeve was impressive in being able to manage a Dutch club in their language - double Dutch I think it was!

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On 09/04/2023 at 10:40, Pearcy said:

Tony Mowbray.

Crap everywhere he goes. Baffles me how he keeps getting jobs in football.

 

I can only assume that you have accidentally put the wrong persons name in your post, whilst thinking of some other manager......

 

Either that, or you are talking baffling nonsense..!

Tony Mowbray has had a great career, gets his teams playing fantastic football & he has always been top of my wishlist (although usually out of our reach) whenever we have been in a recruitment search.

NP was always high on that list aswell & I was amazed when we appointed him.

Was very much regretting that wish until Christmas..! But we've seen some genuine improvement since then. 

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On 09/04/2023 at 18:51, Major Isewater said:

Steve Cooper , I know it’s not his fault , but I couldn’t be  having to look at that boat every week. 
When he was born the midwife smacked his mother. 

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You should see him on a bad day.

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On 10/04/2023 at 17:56, TomF said:

4 promotions to the premier league and a FA Cup final appearance. I mean I’m not a fan of his whining as a manager but he’s not exactly the worst is he?

No, that is fair, but in his last 2/3 jobs, he has overspent on average players, seen teams plummet down the league and been sacked whilst staring at relegation. Each team has then improved since removing him. For me, his stock as a manager is very low and I have no doubt West Brom would have gone down this year had they stuck with him. I would say his failings at Villa, despite spending fortunes, then his poor time at Sheffield Wednesday, before nearly relegating Newcastle suggest he is not a manager you would want at your club anymore. West Brom was the final straw and exposed him to me, as someone who can buy success, but if it fails to click, could cripple and ruin a club. Cue his next gig at Ipswich!

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On 09/04/2023 at 14:36, bcfcnick said:

Mark Hughes, Roy Keane, Chris Hughton , Mick McCartney & Sam Alleradyce.

Pearson gets lumped in with some of the old-fashioned managers who relied on discipline and giving players a hard time . He demands a lot but he's a lot smarter than that and generally all the players who have played for him are quite glowing in their praise for his man management. 

I'm not saying all the managers above are old school but we did pick the right guy from those who would be labelled 'experienced'  and one who has been motivated (and stubborn) enough to transform the Club at all levels without whinging about lack of funds.  He's brought in academy players out of necessity to some extent but he's done it willingly and astutely.

Some of these get an unfair press at times IMO. Big Sam and his body of work at Bolton was extremely impressive, and he varied tactics based in opposition. Within the same framework but probably physicality etc depended on the opposition, budgets, home or away etc.

I think you need quite good man management ability too in order to firstly persuade players such as Okocha, Djorkaeff  Campo, Hierro and the rest to join a club like Bolton, yea PL but bottom third and then buy into a very strict framework.

Sometimes it can just click at a certain club however as he hasn't really been outstanding elsewhere over a long period of time tbh but as well as pound to point ratio he was also rather innovative, Prozone, encouraging a greater emphasis on spending on youth and training than was typical of a lot of clubs at that time etc.

Hughton did alright at Newcastle and was unfairly sacked, Big Sam also unfairly sacked at Blackburn too at around the same time. Hughton did fine at Brighton but probably ran his course, similarly at Norwich.

Mick McCarthy did well up to a point although seemed to have certain limitations at Wolves in the PL say, varied mid-market foreign players he perhaps didn't tailor tactics well enough . Otoh he has done a good job in a variety of places.

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11 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Really?? His record is rather good no? Strikes me as someone who has the capability to build as well but not necessarily had the opportunity so far- although getting Burnley into Europe was quite something.

He didn't exactly endear himself as a player here. I remember him then managing Watford and thought he had a chip on his shoulder. Granted, he did really well with Burnley though. But would I want him here, no thanks.

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59 minutes ago, Slacker said:

Bit disappointed that Colin hasn't had more mentions.

Love Colin. He mentions us all the time. I would like to know how many times he applied! 
 

Managers I’m glad we never had include

McIness

Lee Johnson

Tiny Penis 

&

Roy Hodgson 

Oh wait a minute!

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