Popular Post pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2023 The other way around we are happy, but as it turned out ( as I, unfortunately, thought it would) we are left deflated all the excuses in the world can be trotted out but in the end, the city did what the city do and personally, I'm just growing a little weary at the inevitability of It, as a season ticket seller I'm not sure if it prompts people to buy or like me they will think how come a team like Boro who themselves have not been in the top flight for ages and do not receive PP can look so superior to us for long periods. 5 26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Merrick's Marvels Posted April 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) I am not deflated after that. Next! Edited April 10, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels 25 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, pillred said: The other way around we are happy, but as it turned out ( as I, unfortunately, thought it would) we are left deflated all the excuses in the world can be trotted out but in the end, the city did what the city do and personally, I'm just growing a little weary at the inevitability of It, as a season ticket seller I'm not sure if it prompts people to buy or like me they will think how come a team like Boro who themselves have not been in the top flight for ages and do not receive PP can look so superior to us for long periods. Well miser if you're confused by my post you obviously haven't been watching City for long or are easily pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, pillred said: The other way around we are happy, but as it turned out ( as I, unfortunately, thought it would) we are left deflated all the excuses in the world can be trotted out but in the end, the city did what the city do and personally, I'm just growing a little weary at the inevitability of It, as a season ticket seller I'm not sure if it prompts people to buy or like me they will think how come a team like Boro who themselves have not been in the top flight for ages and do not receive PP can look so superior to us for long periods. Have a good lie down and you’ll feel better in the morning. Night, night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: I am not deflated after that. Next! Another too easily pleased supporter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Hull must be happy with the extra point from today’s game 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I dont think they looked superior for long periods at all. They are better placed than us financially too which helped to enable the PL loanees. I thought we more than matched them even if they had more possession. The away game up there they were superior for very long periods. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Curr Avon said: Have a good lie down and you’ll feel better in the morning. Night, night. and night night to you as well if you are happy with throwing a 2 goal lead at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I dont think they looked superior for long periods at all. They are better placed than us financially too which helped to enable the PL loanees. I thought we more than matched them even if they had more possession. The away game up there they were superior for very long periods. Did you actually see the stats I'm sorry but they did look superior to us for long periods which annoyed the hell out of me, and why are they better placed financially? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, pillred said: The other way around we are happy, but as it turned out ( as I, unfortunately, thought it would) we are left deflated all the excuses in the world can be trotted out but in the end, the city did what the city do and personally, I'm just growing a little weary at the inevitability of It, as a season ticket seller I'm not sure if it prompts people to buy or like me they will think how come a team like Boro who themselves have not been in the top flight for ages and do not receive PP can look so superior to us for long periods. How many season tickets does a season ticket seller sell? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, pillred said: Another too easily pleased Really? Plenty of posters on here - who actually know me, unlike you - who'd say the exact opposite actually (If they can be arsed to address such an ignorant comment. Don't bother, lads.) So what the actual **ck were you expecting from today's game? Edited April 10, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, pillred said: Did you actually see the stats I'm sorry but they did look superior to us for long periods which annoyed the hell out of me, and why are they better placed financially? The 16 shots against their 10 shots stats? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post David Brent Posted April 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2023 If you can’t take any pleasure from that performance / result then there isn’t much hope for you. All of us want City to win every game..but it doesn’t happen. 22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni71 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Since pre Christmas we have been slowly improving. Unfortunately we are not a microwave meal, it will take time to improve and on a consistent basis. Always disappointing to lose a two goal lead. Lots of positives though, Cornick very good this evening but clearly not match fit still. We had a patched up team that gave everything. Thought tonight was a good advert for Championship football. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, pillred said: Another too easily pleased supporter. 9 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Have a good lie down and you’ll feel better in the morning. Night, night. Yup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Percy Pig said: There are few certainties in life, but like the sun rising in the morning you can always rely on Pillred to have something negative to say in the hours after a City game. Kudos for your consistency. Says Percy Pig with all his five minutes of experience of being on here and missing the overwhelming positivity I usually express, 800 odd posts come back when you have sat through as many games as I have. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post City Rocker Posted April 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, pillred said: The other way around we are happy, but as it turned out ( as I, unfortunately, thought it would) we are left deflated all the excuses in the world can be trotted out but in the end, the city did what the city do and personally, I'm just growing a little weary at the inevitability of It, as a season ticket seller I'm not sure if it prompts people to buy or like me they will think how come a team like Boro who themselves have not been in the top flight for ages and do not receive PP can look so superior to us for long periods. Fantastic game to watch, end-to-end stuff, and we were unlucky not to take all three points against one of the better sides in the league, packed with Premier League loanees. Looks like we watched different games, my friend. I've seen some shite over the past 46 years, but today was one of the good days. 16 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, pillred said: The other way around we are happy, but as it turned out ( as I, unfortunately, thought it would) we are left deflated all the excuses in the world can be trotted out but in the end, the city did what the city do and personally, I'm just growing a little weary at the inevitability of It, as a season ticket seller I'm not sure if it prompts people to buy or like me they will think how come a team like Boro who themselves have not been in the top flight for ages and do not receive PP can look so superior to us for long periods. It was a good match played by two teams trying to win it. I have seen us just a couple of years back being outplayed for long periods match after match hanging on. We could have won, we could have lost, but it’s exactly that type of match will attract fans to the Gate in my view. Fair play to Boro, Luton, Preston, Millwall etc, we are just at a different place in our journey. Seeing a lot of comments from Boro fans saying they think they were lucky to get the point, so don’t think we were dominated. Far from it. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: How many season tickets does a season ticket seller sell? Stop trying to be a smart ass it doesn't become you,you know exactly what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, pillred said: Did you actually see the stats I'm sorry but they did look superior to us for long periods which annoyed the hell out of me, and why are they better placed financially? You obviously haven't heard about our financial issues due to the incompetence of MA & LJ then ???? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, City Rocker said: Fantastic game to watch, end-to-end stuff, and we were unlucky not to take all three points against one of the better sides in the league, packed with Premier League loanees. Looks like we watched different games, my friend. I've seen some shite over the past 46 years, but today was one of the good days. It was a good game but even 2 up I thought if we concede the next goal we will probably end up hanging on look I didn't want to be proven right but having watched city for as long as I have it just seemed inevitable and unfortunately I was right and took NO pleasure from that fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 If we hadn't been 2 up, we'd've lost 0:2 today. 3 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, bpexile said: You obviously haven't heard about our financial issues due to the incompetence of MA & LJ then ???? I have unfortunately but can't understand why a club like Boro who themselves have had no PP are in so much of a better position than us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Anyone know how many posts that fundamentally disagree with the OP there needs to be, before a thread can be officially declared nonsense? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Really? Plenty of posters on here - who actually know me, unlike you - who'd say the exact opposite actually (If they can be arsed to address such an ignorant comment. Don't bother, lads.) So what the actual **ck were you expecting from today's game? Everyone who I sit with was happy with both the performance & the commitment. A couple I walked back from the ground with had a similar view. Boro are top four, a good side yet we’ve drawn both games this season. This strikes me as evidence of progress & like you I was more than happy. 4 points over Easter massively exceeded my expectations, I have absolutely no idea what the OP expected? 6? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said: If we hadn't been 2 up, we'd've lost 0:2 today. Well that's one way of looking at it :laugh:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 They passed the ball better, generally controlled the midfield but we were actually better with the final ball I think and had more shots on goal. A fair result, could have gone either way. Could we have parked the bus at 2 - 0? Maybe, if that is what some prefer. Too early to try to shut the game down in my opinion. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, pillred said: I have unfortunately but can't understand why a club like Boro who themselves have had no PP are in so much of a better position than us. You've answered your own question.............. better financial management than us.........at the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Beni71 said: Since pre Christmas we have been slowly improving. Unfortunately we are not a microwave meal, it will take time to improve and on a consistent basis. Always disappointing to lose a two goal lead. Lots of positives though, Cornick very good this evening but clearly not match fit still. We had a patched up team that gave everything. Thought tonight was a good advert for Championship football. I still have memories of losing three goal leads! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, Beni71 said: Since pre Christmas we have been slowly improving. Unfortunately we are not a microwave meal, it will take time to improve and on a consistent basis. Always disappointing to lose a two goal lead. Lots of positives though, Cornick very good this evening but clearly not match fit still. We had a patched up team that gave everything. Thought tonight was a good advert for Championship football. Agreed throughly enjoyed it no problem 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, cityexile said: It was a good match played by two teams trying to win it. I have seen us just a couple of years back being outplayed for long periods match after match hanging on. We could have won, we could have lost, but it’s exactly that type of match will attract fans to the Gate in my view. Agreed. On two years ago we were being outplayed often, home and away and confidence was on the floor. Didn't have terrible players individually but when confidence is on the floor you're in serious trouble, plus lots of contracts set to expire, no fans (as with everyone)- that is a perfect storm of negativity We have come so so far since then. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miser Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, pillred said: Well miser if you're confused by my post you obviously haven't been watching City for long or are easily pleased. Been watching for 57 years. Yet to be worn down by negativity 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, miser said: Been watching for 57 years. Yet to be worn down by negativity Take it you have never sat next to pillred? 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 We drew with one of the better teams in this league (I would take Carrick as our next manager in a heartbeat btw), when most would probably have snapped your hands off for a draw before the game. Yes we were 2 up, and yes we let it slip, but Vyner gets something decent on that ball towards the end, and we win 3-2. A decent game, a fair result considering how good they looked at times, a decent point. 2 dropped yes, but more positives to take from that game than negatives. Some people just like a moan. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, miser said: Been watching for 57 years. Yet to be worn down by negativity So you are never ever unhappy? I did not say I was unhappy with supporting city which in my case is only 55 years but tonight I found it hard to watch us yet again surrender a 2 goal lead being city we went from getting a really good result at Stoke to tonights outcome which had a feeling of de ja vu but yes overall 4 points was a good outcome over Easter. Edited April 10, 2023 by pillred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Taz said: We drew with one of the better teams in this league (I would take Carrick as our next manager in a heartbeat btw), when most would probably have snapped your hands off for a draw before the game. Yes we were 2 up, and yes we let it slip, but Vyner gets something decent on that ball towards the end, and we win 3-2. A decent game, a fair result considering how good they looked at times, a decent point. 2 dropped yes, but more positives to take from that game than negatives. Some people just like a moan. Remember never ever moan ever again, I will be watching :laugh:. and yes a decent point but we do seem to lose more points from winning positions than gaining them, well certainly from my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said: Take it you have never sat next to pillred? Stay away from the Dolman (you have been warned). though be careful I might move next season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Merrick's Marvels Posted April 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Everyone who I sit with was happy with both the performance & the commitment. A couple I walked back from the ground with had a similar view. Boro are top four, a good side yet we’ve drawn both games this season. This strikes me as evidence of progress & like you I was more than happy. 4 points over Easter massively exceeded my expectations, I have absolutely no idea what the OP expected? 6? Thoroughly enjoyed today. We are without Kalas, Atkinson, Scott, Williams, Sykes - all first choice starters. Two more - Conway and Naismith - only played bit parts today. What on earth do people seriously expect?! Our threadbare squad is running on fumes, yet even when the players still find a way to grind out results, it's not good enough for some. Nuts! And what other City manager, stripped of that many first choice starters, has ever got such results and, yes, performances at this level of football?? I can't think of one. Again, nuts isn't it? Edited April 10, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels 19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, miser said: Been watching for 57 years. Yet to be worn down by negativity Same here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, pillred said: Stay away from the Dolman (you have been warned). though be careful I might move next season To the Mem. I hope!!! Edited April 10, 2023 by Redtucks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Redtucks said: To the Mem. I hope!!! I'm disappointed, not desperate :laugh:. Edited April 10, 2023 by pillred 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, pillred said: The other way around we are happy, but as it turned out ( as I, unfortunately, thought it would) we are left deflated all the excuses in the world can be trotted out but in the end, the city did what the city do and personally, I'm just growing a little weary at the inevitability of It, as a season ticket seller I'm not sure if it prompts people to buy or like me they will think how come a team like Boro who themselves have not been in the top flight for ages and do not receive PP can look so superior to us for long periods. When it comes to being deflated you've let yourself down. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Over my 48 years watching the City seem some real lows and great highs. Today I watched a fully commited side try their best to win. A side with several first team starters not starting, two starters only in parts and playing a promotion chasing side. Yes it was disappointing not to win. But what a great advert for the championship. Really loved the reaction of my two two twin grandsons really get into the effort, drama and they where bouncing. That performance is how to get fans coming back. COYR 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Over my 48 years watching the City seem some real lows and great highs. Today I watched a fully commited side try their best to win. A side with several first team starters not starting, two starters only in parts and playing a promotion chasing side. Yes it was disappointing not to win. But what a great advert for the championship. Really loved the reaction of my two two twin grandsons really get into the effort, drama and they where bouncing. That performance is how to get fans coming back. COYR It WAS a great game and had I been neutral I would agree, but having seen us do this too many times it's natural to be disappointed, we were outplayed for long periods maybe with all our players available the result might have been different somehow though we always seem to be in this position except for 2014/ 2015 where almost everything seemed to go right since then unlucky as far as injuries go doesn't even cover it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 57 minutes ago, pillred said: So you are never ever unhappy? I did not say I was unhappy with supporting city which in my case is only 55 years but tonight I found it hard to watch us yet again surrender a 2 goal lead being city we went from getting a really good result at Stoke to tonights outcome which had a feeling of de ja vu but yes overall 4 points was a good outcome over Easter. when was the last time we surrendered a 2 goal lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, pillred said: we were outplayed for long periods maybe with all our players available the result might have been different somehow though we always seem to be in this position except for 2014/ 2015 where almost everything seemed to go right since then unlucky as far as injuries go doesn't even cover it. If thats the case then surely we did very well to hold on & get the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, bpexile said: If thats the case then surely we did very well to hold on & get the point. We did but that doesn't make it feel any better for me personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 This thread needs to be renamed Pillred vs the world. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Thoroughly enjoyed today. We are without Kalas, Atkinson, Scott, Williams, Sykes - all first choice starters. Two more - Conway and Naismith - only played bit parts today. What on earth do people seriously expect?! Our threadbare squad is running on fumes, yet even when the players still find a way to grind out results, it's not good enough for some. Nuts! And what other City manager, stripped of that many first choice starters, has ever got such results and, yes, performances at this level of football?? I can't think of one. Again, nuts isn't it? Whilst we were without several first team players, if you look at the number of appearances and experience of today's starting 11, it was hardly a bunch of inexperienced kids, was it? Our two holding midfielders are Premier League winners ffs. Two of the forwards are ex-Premier League too. Millwall, Luton, PNE, Blackburn and Coventry out-performing us this season, nuts isn't it? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, Big C said: when was the last time we surrendered a 2 goal lead? Not sure but we have thrown away leads on a number of occasions, we once threw a 2 goal lead against Leeds and a three-goal lead against Sunderland in the same week 4 or 5 years ago and I seem to remember us being three up at Derby once and failing to win. Not exactly that recently but we do seem to have a habit of putting supporters through the mill trying to hold on to leads, surely you have at some time felt that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: This thread needs to be renamed Pillred vs the world. Don't worry I'm used to that :laugh:. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: This thread needs to be renamed Pillred vs the world. How many sequels are you tipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: This thread needs to be renamed Pillred 0 vs the world 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, pillred said: Not sure but we have thrown away leads on a number of occasions, we once threw a 2 goal lead against Leeds and a three-goal lead against Sunderland in the same week 4 or 5 years ago and I seem to remember us being three up at Derby once and failing to win. Not exactly that recently but we do seem to have a habit of putting supporters through the mill trying to hold on to leads, surely you have at some time felt that? So, basically, three days ago we came from behind to win, then today we take a lead but end up drawing. And your response focusses on the “inevitable” throwing away of a two goal lead because you can remember us doing the same several years ago. But we’re not doing it often now, are we? As so many others have pointed out, you are being excessively negative. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 We’re in quite good company anyway, as Arsenal also “threw away a two goal lead” this weekend. It happens to everyone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 hours ago, pillred said: I have unfortunately but can't understand why a club like Boro who themselves have had no PP are in so much of a better position than us. Simple. They (MA and LJ) spunked it, and more, up the wall on wages than Boro did. End of Story. 123% of turnover wasn't just Championship norm, but stupidity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Whilst we were without several first team players, if you look at the number of appearances and experience of today's starting 11, it was hardly a bunch of inexperienced kids, was it? Our two holding midfielders are Premier League winners ffs. Two of the forwards are ex-Premier League too. Millwall, Luton, PNE, Blackburn and Coventry out-performing us this season, nuts isn't it? Did we concede the goals because of the ex-Premier league winners or ex-Premier league forwards? If you’re determined to be disappointed you’ll always find a a reason I suppose. The fact that all bar seemingly two people on the forum have been able to see beyond their frustration and see the bigger picture for what it is maybe says more than those who expected more out of the game on the basis that King and James have Premier League winners medals and Nakhi played 4 games or whatever it was in the Prem…in my view anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Fuber said: Simple. They (MA and LJ) spunked it, and more, up the wall on wages than Boro did. End of Story. 123% of turnover wasn't just Championship norm, but stupidity. Them and Steve Lansdown who supported Swiss, let’s not forget that. Steve gets massive credit for picking up the tab obviously but his unequivocal support of Swiss and suggestion that the slimy bastard Ashton was misrepresented by the fans has ruined any idea of a particularly positive legacy he might have had. Many won’t forget that. We’ve had to put up with three years of the shittest football I’ve ever seen (and I include the slide down to Division 4 in that) to slowly get back to where we are now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 This season we've led games 23 times. From those 23 leads we've cashed in 13 wins, lost 3, and drawn 3. In terms of points taken from winning positions we're 13th in the division (46 points). Average and not too bad really. We've been behind 14 times and have come back to win once (last week), got back on level terms 4 times, and continued losing all the way to the final whistle 14 times. 7 points claimed. Most football teams win once they're ahead and lose once they're behind. We're not unusual at all and if you think we are then you're letting your own anecdotal pessimistically biased "evidence" determine your "facts". Numbers above are from transfermarkt: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/punktenachfuehrung/wettbewerb/GB2 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/punktenachrueckstand/wettbewerb/GB2/sort/siege 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Them and Steve Lansdown who supported Swiss, let’s not forget that. Steve gets massive credit for picking up the tab obviously but his unequivocal support of Swiss and suggestion that the slimy bastard Ashton was misrepresented by the fans has ruined any idea of a particularly positive legacy he might have had. Many won’t forget that. We’ve had to put up with three years of the shittest football I’ve ever seen (and I include the slide down to Division 4 in that) to slowly get back to where we are now. Careful. No one on here likes anyone who dare criticise the main man….. Meanwhile @pillred you feeling better this morning? I, for one, is looking forward to another perfectly punctuated post….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 8 hours ago, pillred said: The other way around we are happy, but as it turned out ( as I, unfortunately, thought it would) we are left deflated all the excuses in the world can be trotted out but in the end, the city did what the city do and personally, I'm just growing a little weary at the inevitability of It, as a season ticket seller I'm not sure if it prompts people to buy or like me they will think how come a team like Boro who themselves have not been in the top flight for ages and do not receive PP can look so superior to us for long periods. Boro were desperate and threw everything at us, we still have a depleted side, and let's face it there was little on that game for us. We matched a strong team without several key players, and it was cracking game with both sides playing really good football. How you can say they looked superior I don't know. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: This season we've led games 23 times. From those 23 leads we've cashed in 13 wins, lost 3, and drawn 3. In terms of points taken from winning positions we're 13th in the division (46 points). Average and not too bad really. We've been behind 14 times and have come back to win once (last week), got back on level terms 4 times, and continued losing all the way to the final whistle 14 times. 7 points claimed. Most football teams win once they're ahead and lose once they're behind. We're not unusual at all and if you think we are then you're letting your own anecdotal pessimistically biased "evidence" determine your "facts". Numbers above are from transfermarkt: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/punktenachfuehrung/wettbewerb/GB2 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/punktenachrueckstand/wettbewerb/GB2/sort/siege Did 4 of the games not finish? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Whilst we were without several first team players, if you look at the number of appearances and experience of today's starting 11, it was hardly a bunch of inexperienced kids, was it? Our two holding midfielders are Premier League winners ffs. Two of the forwards are ex-Premier League too. Millwall, Luton, PNE, Blackburn and Coventry out-performing us this season, nuts isn't it? They maybe higher up the table ....at the moment but ..... we have beat Preston and Blackburn at home and away, drew both with Coventry, won and lost v Luton and lost and drew with Wall; so we are not a million miles away from them in the table and def not in results. Cornicks performance yesterday gives me hope for next season as does the fact that we did it without some of our top players. If as likely we lose our most valuable asset this summer NP will no doubt invest much more wisely than prev managers have and as yesterday proved we can manage without him. We are not far away atm and after this next transfer window I expect to be much closer to the top teams in this div, next season and challenging the top six for most of it. The affects of SL`s prev poor manager selection choices are at last passing and has got lucky with NP better times ahead for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Port Said Red said: Did 4 of the games not finish? It's times leading, not games led. I assume that we led some games twice. You can also of course lead a game, then trail in the same game, and so that game can show up in both "points from winning" and "points from losing". Our 3-3 draw with Blackpool early this season shows this. We went 1-0 down, then got back level, then went 2-1 down, then went 2-3 up, then finally drew. So that's 2 times losing and one winning, but just one result. Apologies if you were being tongue in cheek and knew all this. I couldn't tell. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Looking at this thread it looks like @pillred went 1-0 up and was well in the lead, but he was easily pegged back and has ended up on the losing side. I for one am fed up with this, I wonder what I am paying my £5 supporter fee for. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedsHeadIs Red Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Come on Pillred, it’s time to get up and get back on this thread. We’re missing you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 56 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: This season we've led games 23 times. From those 23 leads we've cashed in 13 wins, lost 3, and drawn 3. In terms of points taken from winning positions we're 13th in the division (46 points). Average and not too bad really. We've been behind 14 times and have come back to win once (last week), got back on level terms 4 times, and continued losing all the way to the final whistle 14 times. 7 points claimed. Most football teams win once they're ahead and lose once they're behind. We're not unusual at all and if you think we are then you're letting your own anecdotal pessimistically biased "evidence" determine your "facts". Numbers above are from transfermarkt: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/punktenachfuehrung/wettbewerb/GB2 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/punktenachrueckstand/wettbewerb/GB2/sort/siege OP is off is head but yes we still do have a problem holding on to leads. Ahead 23 times won 13 Behind 14 times lost 14 As per your stats Definitely something to continue working on, where we would be with those 10 extra wins arghhhh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: OP is off is head but yes we still do have a problem holding on to leads. Ahead 23 times won 13 Behind 14 times lost 14 As per your stats Definitely something to continue working on, where we would be with those 10 extra wins arghhhh Yes we can work on it, but it doesn't quite work like the bit in bold. As I said to @Port Said Red these numbers count individual times when a team is leading/losing. For example Luton have led games 30 times, and have won 19 games from that position. That doesn't mean they could have ahd another 11 wins. These numbers are tricky and if misinterpreted are potentially incredibly misleading. I don't think they indicate whether we or any other team is good or bad, but they do indicate how @pillred is probably focussing on the wrong thing if he wants to show where we can improve. Edited April 11, 2023 by ExiledAjax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 While I'm not frustrated by yesterday as it's a good performance and at this stage of the season, that's the priority, I get OP's general frustration. We do drop too many points from leading, we're division high in that regard I believe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Enjoyed yesterday,and whilst it’s disappointing to loose a two goal lead, I was far more disappointed to only draw with Reading,who were truly shocking,than Boro who are a decent side. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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