Ross McCrorie signed - Confirmed

[Port Said Red]

5 hours ago, George Rs said:

To regrow cartilage you have to water it daily and leave it in direct sunlight I’m pretty sure. 

That's where @Davefevshas been going wrong, his is always in the shade.

[RedRoss]

Is this Aberdeens replacement for McCrorie?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/nicky-devlin-close-aberdeen-transfer-29958430

[Roger Red Hat]

11 hours ago, RedRoss said:

Is this Aberdeens replacement for McCrorie?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/nicky-devlin-close-aberdeen-transfer-29958430

Don't know.

[City oz]

6 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Don't know.

Well, if you don't know you must then be undecided! on the opinion stated, unless you really do know more. 

[Davefevs]

Looks like this one is very close too.

[Jerseybean]

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Looks like this one is very close too.

Looks like the Robins won out against the Canaries: https://www.pinkun.com/news/23525713.norwich-city-transfer-news-bristol-city-win-race-ross-mccrorie/

[bcfc01]

3 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Looks like the Robins won out against the Canaries: https://www.pinkun.com/news/23525713.norwich-city-transfer-news-bristol-city-win-race-ross-mccrorie/

Its from the Bristol Post.

I think they've listened to NP last night and are guessing that the two that he mentioned were close are Bryan and McCrorie.

They may well be correct, but I think they actually know as much as we do.

[Jerseybean]

2 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Its from the Bristol Post.

I think they've listened to NP last night and are guessing that the two that he mentioned were close are Bryan and McCrorie.

They may well be correct, but I think they actually know as much as we do.

Maybe, the article says ‘Nigel Pearson revealed on BBC Radio Bristol on Monday night that he believes two signings are close to being confirmed and Bristol Live understands that duo is Bryan and McCrorie.’ perhaps the word ‘understands’ should be ‘guesses’ 

[NcnsBcfc]

6 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Looks like the Robins won out against the Canaries: https://www.pinkun.com/news/23525713.norwich-city-transfer-news-bristol-city-win-race-ross-mccrorie/

The difficulty with all of these transfer news sites is that all they do is cross reference each other. Thus giving the impression that it's being reported by multiple media outlets, whereas the reality is it's only 1 bit of information that has been repeated across various sites.

I've no doubt that this is close, but moving forward over the summer around other rumours, we all have to be circumspect over whether there is any actual basis to the rumour or not. 

[Jerseybean]

Interesting reference to wages being lower with us in this article - https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/ross-mccrorie-bristol-city-to-sign-aberdeen-star-manager-drops-signing-hint-the-6-figure-rangers-windfall-4144645

[NcnsBcfc]

3 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Interesting reference to wages being lower with us in this article - https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/ross-mccrorie-bristol-city-to-sign-aberdeen-star-manager-drops-signing-hint-the-6-figure-rangers-windfall-4144645

Again just quoting the Evening post, which has supposedly got knowledge from somewhere that he is taking lower wages.

Whether that is just guess work from the Post around the fact that Norwich & WBA would probably be paying more is a moot point.

[GrahamC]

8 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Maybe, the article says ‘Nigel Pearson revealed on BBC Radio Bristol on Monday night that he believes two signings are close to being confirmed and Bristol Live understands that duo is Bryan and McCrorie.’ perhaps the word ‘understands’ should be ‘guesses’ 

I think the detail regarding the other clubs interested & the wages involved would suggest this isn’t merely speculation.

Neil is right about the multiple cross references though.

I have a feeling in this case they’re right though, Aberdeen fans have been saying for a few weeks his “injury” is actually a hernia op being done now so he passes our medical & it seems clear Joe Bryan is keen to return home.

Do wonder where it leaves our pursuit of the Wimbledon lad, even if Dasilva leaves we have 2 very strong options at LB if Joe comes back.

[Davefevs]

I think it’s fair to say that the guys at Bristol Post will have their own contacts too.  It’s easy to say they’re just repeating last night’s chat, but they have also shut down other rumours, Ben House for example.  They will reach out to agents, etc too.  

[tin]

2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

I think the detail regarding the other clubs interested & the wages involved would suggest this isn’t merely speculation.

Neil is right about the multiple cross references though.

I have a feeling in this case they’re right though, Aberdeen fans have been saying for a few weeks his “injury” is actually a hernia op being done now so he passes our medical & it seems clear Joe Bryan is keen to return home.

Do wonder where it leaves our pursuit of the Wimbledon lad, even if Dasilva leaves we have 2 very strong options at LB if Joe comes back.

Considering Wimbledon rejected £600k+ from us for Currie in January, I would be very surprised if he were to join us now as the fee would presumably surpass that figure. Put Elijah Morrison’s development into the mix, who can play anywhere down the left or as a 10, and it’s highly unlikely IMO.

[Leveller]

6 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think it’s fair to say that the guys at Bristol Post will have their own contacts too.  It’s easy to say they’re just repeating last night’s chat, but they have also shut down other rumours, Ben House for example.  They will reach out to agents, etc too.  

Yes, surely “understands” is more likely to be code for “have been told unofficially but not allowed to quote a source”, than a guess.

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, tin said:

Considering Wimbledon rejected £600k+ from us for Currie in January, I would be very surprised if he were to join us now as the fee would presumably surpass that figure. Put Elijah Morrison’s development into the mix, who can play anywhere down the left or as a 10, and it’s highly unlikely IMO.

It’s more than possible they accepted £600k, but it was the late addition of a loan-back that broke the deal…because we were about to set Dasilva free.

[tin]

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

It’s more than possible they accepted £600k, but it was the late addition of a loan-back that broke the deal…because we were about to set Dasilva free.

True, but I still can’t see us either paying that or bettering that offer now. Can you? 

[Super]

Anyone heard anything from our friend Mr Dealien?

[Davefevs]

25 minutes ago, tin said:

True, but I still can’t see us either paying that or bettering that offer now. Can you? 

I could see us paying £600k, but no more.  Story (no ITK) was Currie was gutted it fell through?

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Jerseybean said:

Looks like the Robins won out against the Canaries: https://www.pinkun.com/news/23525713.norwich-city-transfer-news-bristol-city-win-race-ross-mccrorie/

That’s quite a “win” if so.

[pongo88]

On 12/05/2023 at 09:30, Roger Red Hat said:

Don't know.

 

On 12/05/2023 at 09:39, City oz said:

Well, if you don't know you must then be undecided! on the opinion stated, unless you really do know more. 

As Socrates once said;

“True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing”

I think that this is an apt motto for the forum 

[mozo]

3 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I think it’s fair to say that the guys at Bristol Post will have their own contacts too.  It’s easy to say they’re just repeating last night’s chat, but they have also shut down other rumours, Ben House for example.  They will reach out to agents, etc too.  

Yeah this smacks of agent info imo 

[Ivorguy]

Aberdeen forum thinks it is a done deal at £2m

[Spike]

7 hours ago, Super said:

Anyone heard anything from our friend Mr Dealien?

Nah he's busy reporting on how Pearson has been seen courting De Gea since his contract is running out...

[Davefevs]

11 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said:

@Davefevs where do you see him fitting in for us?

Aberdeen fans seem to think generally he was rubbish at CB, but handy elsewhere.

Wouldn't mind his steel in midfield.

Funny you say that…I watched a full 90 of him a week or so ago playing CB, and the recent Rangers game at RB.  I thought he was v.good at CB, had all the things you look for - positioning, communication, anticipation of danger etc.

Like the Joe Bryan thread, my mantra is that it’s a squad game, so trying to name where a player fits in to a “best eleven” isn’t really my thing!  We’ve seen this season, we rarely get to put out Nige’s best eleven, let alone the OTIB variants we might come up with.

So, I think he would feature wherever we need him.  Initially with Rob Atkinson out (Kalas unknown), it might be CB.  The game I watched, he played left of the two.

He’s a “rangy” player so if it midfield I’d expect him to be more than just a “sitter” if he played in the same team as James.

Don’t think I really answered your Q though!

[Davefevs]

7 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said:

Fair enough.

I'd hope for a bit more than a utility player given the fee he's costing, and he's a bit of a unit so if he comes in and plays centre back consistently whilst being an option of covering other positions, that's fine by me.

I guess versatility doesn’t necessarily equal utility (which is often seen as “back-up”).  I’m sure the way Nige runs his selection policy if a player plays in a position and does well, he tends not to piss about with it.

Edited May 17, 2023 by Davefevs

[TammyAB]

40 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said:

James Piercy is very good in fairness.

Broke the news of Wilson deal last summer too.

Morning James.

[Carey 6]

Guessing this wont be announced until their season is over on the 27th May. 

Had a look on whoscored at his performance, looks to have performed best when at RWB/RM/CDM. (Played 6 different positions this year by the looks of things)

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/363668/Show/Ross-McCrorie

[Davefevs]

13 minutes ago, Carey 6 said:

Guessing this wont be announced until their season is over on the 27th May. 

Had a look on whoscored at his performance, looks to have performed best when at RWB/RM/CDM. (Played 6 different positions this year by the looks of things)

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/363668/Show/Ross-McCrorie

I’ve got a breakdown (Viz) of his data for every game this season by position, but I’m not sure it’s that “readable”, ie might require a lot of explanation.

I wanted to show how his “numbers” change depending on the position he plays.  It needs work though.

Here’s a portion of it.

Without going into too much explanation, he wins a greater percentage of loose balls when playing CB (left pic) and wins a greater percentage of defensive duels when playing in midfield.

Overall, there are 30-40 data points and some he’s pretty consistent regardless of position, other data points the position makes a difference.

Not sure if the pic or my words make sense???

[Unan]

Not sure if said already but this is todays signing, 2m, apparently 

Edited May 17, 2023 by Marcus Aurelius

[petehinton]

3 hours ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

Not sure if said already but this is todays signing, 2m, apparently 

As in…announced today?

[bcfc01]

23 minutes ago, petehinton said:

As in…announced today?

Their season isn't over till the end of this month so I doubt anything can be announced.

Same for Bryan.

 

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

Could announce signing of a, pre contract agreement possibly? 

[NcnsBcfc]

6 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Funny you say that…I watched a full 90 of him a week or so ago playing CB, and the recent Rangers game at RB.  I thought he was v.good at CB, had all the things you look for - positioning, communication, anticipation of danger etc.

Like the Joe Bryan thread, my mantra is that it’s a squad game, so trying to name where a player fits in to a “best eleven” isn’t really my thing!  We’ve seen this season, we rarely get to put out Nige’s best eleven, let alone the OTIB variants we might come up with.

So, I think he would feature wherever we need him.  Initially with Rob Atkinson out (Kalas unknown), it might be CB.  The game I watched, he played left of the two.

He’s a “rangy” player so if it midfield I’d expect him to be more than just a “sitter” if he played in the same team as James.

Don’t think I really answered your Q though!

A ggod example of this @Davefevs is of course Naismith. Started off the season at CB ( a bit ropery at times), then in the Swansea cup game moved into CM where alongside the change in formation, the team flourished. Then when he came back from injury slotted back into CB. A great utility acquisition by the club.

[Mr Popodopolous]

Given his reported versatility, this now gives us or might give us a backup in terms of the idea of Naismith in certain phases of play dropping back into the 3rd CB role and full backs pushing higher. He is our only player, Naismith who can do this IMO. McCrorie could perhaps also be another.

Ideally and I know financials can conflict with this, two for each position would be excellent 

[cidered abroad]

44 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

A ggod example of this @Davefevs is of course Naismith. Started off the season at CB ( a bit ropery at times), then in the Swansea cup game moved into CM where alongside the change in formation, the team flourished. Then when he came back from injury slotted back into CB. A great utility acquisition by the club.

I thought Naismith was brilliant laying on superb passes for unmissable goalscoring. Trouble is it was the opposition who got the goals.

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 hour ago, bcfc01 said:

Their season isn't over till the end of this month so I doubt anything can be announced.

Same for Bryan.

 

Of course it can be announced. Bryan definitely because his contract is expiring so Fulham have no say in it. 

Aberdeen would have a say because we are buying him from them and they'd probably rather it wasn't announced during the season. 

[Davefevs]

8 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Of course it can be announced. Bryan definitely because his contract is expiring so Fulham have no say in it. 

Aberdeen would have a say because we are buying him from them and they'd probably rather it wasn't announced during the season. 

That assumes Fulham have given permission for us to talk to him ahead of their retained list / 1st June.  I’m sure they have if this is true (I believe it is).  Otherwise we can’t talk to him until 1st June.

With permission a transfer can be announced at any time (as you’re alluding to), just that the registration will only transfer during a window…in this case on 1st July.

Ashley Barnes is a good example where Norwich and Burnley (being well run clubs) have allowed it to be announced today.

 

(Bryan - Fulham actually have a year option)

Edited May 17, 2023 by Davefevs

[bcfc01]

5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

That assumes Fulham have given permission for us to talk to him ahead of their retained list / 1st June.  I’m sure they have if this is true (I believe it is).  Otherwise we can’t talk to him until 1st June.

With permission a transfer can be announced at any time (as you’re alluding to), just that the registration will only transfer during a window…in this case on 1st July.

Ashley Barnes is a good example where Norwich and Burnley (being well run clubs) have allowed it to be announced today.

 

(Bryan - Fulham actually have a year option)

Fulham do have a years option. I don't think they will trigger it, but with the interest shown in him you never know. If they trigger it, then a fee will be payable. Either way, I don't think we'll announce until everything is squared off. Could be wrong, it's happened before ! 

[Elruliri]

8 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Funny you say that…I watched a full 90 of him a week or so ago playing CB, and the recent Rangers game at RB.  I thought he was v.good at CB, had all the things you look for - positioning, communication, anticipation of danger etc.

Like the Joe Bryan thread, my mantra is that it’s a squad game, so trying to name where a player fits in to a “best eleven” isn’t really my thing!  We’ve seen this season, we rarely get to put out Nige’s best eleven, let alone the OTIB variants we might come up with.

So, I think he would feature wherever we need him.  Initially with Rob Atkinson out (Kalas unknown), it might be CB.  The game I watched, he played left of the two.

He’s a “rangy” player so if it midfield I’d expect him to be more than just a “sitter” if he played in the same team as James.

Don’t think I really answered your Q though!

So is he a David Rennie sort of player?

[The Swan and Cemetery]

1 hour ago, Elruliri said:

So is he a David Rennie sort of player?

Rennie/Shelton blend with subtle notes of Wimbleton. Possibly. 

[Davefevs]

2 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

Fulham do have a years option. I don't think they will trigger it, but with the interest shown in him you never know. If they trigger it, then a fee will be payable. Either way, I don't think we'll announce until everything is squared off. Could be wrong, it's happened before ! 

No, no way they are triggering.

1 hour ago, Elruliri said:

So is he a David Rennie sort of player?

31 minutes ago, The Swan and Cemetery said:

Rennie/Shelton blend with subtle notes of Wimbleton. Possibly. 

More of a runner, leggy player…more Marv in that respect, but less Tanglefoot, with a hint of Henriksen!

[Ian M]

19 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Given his reported versatility, this now gives us or might give us a backup in terms of the idea of Naismith in certain phases of play dropping back into the 3rd CB role and full backs pushing higher. He is our only player, Naismith who can do this IMO. McCrorie could perhaps also be another.

Ideally and I know financials can conflict with this, two for each position would be excellent 

When I used to play Football Manager I had an overriding philosophy that I bought players who could play multiple positions so that when injuries occurred during games, even if I didn’t have direct cover for that player on the bench, I could move a couple of the starting XI and not be weakened. Nigel seems to be of that same school of thought and I’m loving that! Means you can still have a smaller squad but in some cases even have 3 options for that position, it’s just that some might also be starting me giving extra value.

[Jerseybean]

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/former-portsmouth-midfielder-on-way-to-championship-in-ps2m-deal-as-norwich-city-and-west-brom-linked-man-joins-bristol-city-4145489

[Davefevs]

Announce Ross McCrorie!

possibly!

[Red white and red]

I hear of a transfer from Scotland and all I can think of is Richard Foster, Marc Wilson, Stephen McManus and Andy Webster…. Absolute shite!

[Northern Red]

33 minutes ago, Red white and red said:

I hear of a transfer from Scotland and all I can think of is Richard Foster, Marc Wilson, Stephen McManus and Andy Webster…. Absolute shite!

If we applied that criteria to every transfer then we'd never sign another player again.

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

43 minutes ago, Red white and red said:

I hear of a transfer from Scotland and all I can think of is Richard Foster, Marc Wilson, Stephen McManus and Andy Webster…. Absolute shite!

Well, you say that but what about IAN BAIRD!?!

[Swede]

4 hours ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Well, you say that but what about IAN BAIRD!?!

I much prefer Gerry Gow, Tom Ritchie & Donnie Gillies.

[Norn Iron]

And Jacki....he came from Glasgow!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From as in via!

[Cov 77]

21 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Announce Ross McCrorie!

possibly!

Not involved today? 

[Davefevs]

Rumoured to have had a little hernia op.

[George Rs]

Would that be a deal breaker? Failed medical maybe?

36 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Rumoured to have had a little hernia op.

 

1 minute ago, George Rs said:

Edited May 20, 2023 by George Rs

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, George Rs said:

Would that be a deal breaker? Failed medical maybe?

 

Imagine it’s two-fold:

1) to get through a medical

2) to ensure he’s ready to come straight into pre-season

It (the injury rumour) could of course be total bullshit and he’s not playing to ensure a deal goes through.

[Ian M]

3 minutes ago, George Rs said:

Would that be a deal breaker? Failed medical maybe?

 

No, the rumour is that he did it to ensure he passes. As much as we want him, he wants us, Aberdeen want the money…..so it happened before the season ended when in reality he could have finished the season just fine.

[Southport Red]

22 hours ago, Red white and red said:

I hear of a transfer from Scotland and all I can think of is Richard Foster, Marc Wilson, Stephen McManus and Andy Webster…. Absolute shite!

Paul Hartley wasn’t too shabby. 

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

17 hours ago, Swede said:

I much prefer Gerry Gow, Tom Ritchie & Donnie Gillies.

Gerry Sweeney, Djiekanowski…

[The Swan and Cemetery]

18 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

Gerry Sweeney, Djiekanowski…

Mark Gavin. 

[Mr Hankey]

38 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

Paul Hartley wasn’t too shabby. 

[bartolona]

Louis Carey is Scottish

[Major Isewater]

19 minutes ago, The Swan and Cemetery said:

Mark Gavin. 

Good call , I remember him being the stand out player for Bolton when we beat them at Wembley and was chuffed when we signed him. 

[GrahamC]

23 hours ago, Red white and red said:

I hear of a transfer from Scotland and all I can think of is Richard Foster, Marc Wilson, Stephen McManus and Andy Webster…. Absolute shite!

The side that got to the playoff final for the Prem had McAllister & Sproule in the squad, where were they signed from?

Loads of clubs at our level like Preston & Luton have players in their squad that were signed from Scotland, what a ridiculous comment.

[handsofclay]

Joe Jordan from Morton (via Leeds, Man Utd, AC Milan, Verona and Southampton).

[Spudgun]

Super Scotty Murray.

(Ok we did get him from Villa) but still.

[Elruliri]

Bobby Hutchinson surely has to be in the squad?

[Major Isewater]

I think the key worry is the difference in quality between the top Scottish division and the Championship. 
Players who come straight from Scotland will have to adapt quickly to the level and intensity and don’t always succeed.

Scottish players are no better or no worse in general than any other. Just got to recruit well and hope for the best. 

[Tangle Foot]

On 19/05/2023 at 18:25, Red white and red said:

I hear of a transfer from Scotland and all I can think of is Richard Foster, Marc Wilson, Stephen McManus and Andy Webster…. Absolute shite!

Naismith & Conway ain’t too bad. And don’t forget the soon to be arriving JB 

COYR.

Edited May 20, 2023 by Tangle Foot
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[ScottishRed]

7 hours ago, Ian M said:

No, the rumour is that he did it to ensure he passes. As much as we want him, he wants us, Aberdeen want the money…..so it happened before the season ended when in reality he could have finished the season just fine.

That would be an odd decision by Aberdeen. They are desperate to finish 3rd and get Europa League Group football which, apparently, is worth £4m.

They played Hearts today who are their closest rivals for the place  and lost 2-1.

[richyy66]

Nobody's mentioned Ralph Milne...

[Red_Alligator]

7 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

I think the key worry is the difference in quality between the top Scottish division and the Championship. 
Players who come straight from Scotland will have to adapt quickly to the level and intensity and don’t always succeed.

Scottish players are no better or no worse in general than any other. Just got to recruit well and hope for the best. 

Yes indeed Major, a mixed bag of clubs, like any other.

With regard to those who have arrived here directly from Scotland and struggled, Lee Miller was a stand out disappointment for me.

We've had many a,gem over the years though.

 

 

Edited May 21, 2023 by Red_Alligator