In, out and maybe

[Jerseybean]

Considering our first team squad I’m thinking…

Ins: Jake O'Brien, Jack Currie, and Ross McCrorie

Maybes: Joe Bryan + a real curve-ball or two

Outs: Alex Scott, Jay DaSilva and Tomas Kalas

What do others reckon?

[George Rs]

HMM nailed on.

Kane Wilson out maybe?

Andy King out/coaching

Personally will be interested to see if pring gets offers as well.

[Kodjias Wrist]

9 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Considering our first team squad I’m thinking…

Ins: Jake O'Brien, Jack Currie, and Ross McCrorie

Maybes: Joe Bryan + a real curve-ball or two

Outs: Alex Scott, Jay DaSilva and Tomas Kalas

What do others reckon?

Position wise I agree, 3 defenders, 1 or 2 midfields and maybe a forward. 

 

[ExiledAjax]

4 minutes ago, George Rs said:

HMM nailed on.

Kane Wilson out maybe?

Andy King out/coaching

Personally will be interested to see if pring gets offers as well.

King will surely be stepping back further next term. Pring will probably get offers yes.

There's also a very small chance someone takes a punt on Conway - 12 goals in 2,000 minutes in an injury hit season is a decent CV at his age. Some of his other stats are outstanding as well. He tops the division for shots on target % (52.6%) and has a top five shot/goal ratio of 0.24 goals per shot (Haaland is only slightly more lethal at 0.27 - he just takes loads and loads more shots). No penalties padding those stats either. He's proper good.

I think we'd refuse everything bar an astronomical offer - especially if we bank money from Scott - but there's a chance of some top Champ/low PL suitors coming sniffing.

[robinforlife2]

Ins: Ross McCrorie, 

Maybe: Jack Currie, Joe Bryan, Kasper Schmeichel

Outs: Alex Scott, HNM, Kalas, DaSilva, Bajic, Kane Wilson, and King to be retained as a coach.

Would not be surprised if Weimann or Pring moved on either. 

[daored]

Really worried about Pring leaving in the summer and wonder if the Bryan noise is the club lining up an experienced replacement with the lad from Wimbledon as understudy. Think Kalas will stay , similar position to Baker and Weinmann offers he may think are not there. Pretty confident Conway will stay but if decent start next season May see bids in January 

[GrahamC]

I reckon we’re about a fortnight away from the retained list;

Dasilva, Taylor Moore, Owura Edwards, Owers & Buse all probably released. HNM leaving for compensation because he’ll turn down whatever we offer.

Then during the summer Scott & Wilson will go, I expect & possibly Bajic, Idehen & Sam Pearson of those under contract.

Incoming probably the 3 mentioned by the OP, after that it will be interesting to see what happens with Kalas, I had him down to leave last week but after his inclusion on the subs bench v Burnley & Pearson’s comments I’m not so sure.

If Kalas stays then a midfielder & possibly a keeper in if Bajic moves on.

Don’t expect anywhere near as many in as some on here & the expenditure will be dwarfed by the incoming fees too.

Edited May 1, 2023 by GrahamC

[milo1111]

29 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

King will surely be stepping back further next term. Pring will probably get offers yes.

There's also a very small chance someone takes a punt on Conway - 12 goals in 2,000 minutes in an injury hit season is a decent CV at his age. Some of his other stats are outstanding as well. He tops the division for shots on target % (52.6%) and has a top five shot/goal ratio of 0.24 goals per shot (Haaland is only slightly more lethal at 0.27 - he just takes loads and loads more shots). No penalties padding those stats either. He's proper good.

I think we'd refuse everything bar an astronomical offer - especially if we bank money from Scott - but there's a chance of some top Champ/low PL suitors coming sniffing.

Good post. I’ve been particularly impressed how he has come back from a long lay off and hit the ground running.

with Scott 99% going it would take silly money for us to let Conway depart in the same window though 

[ExiledAjax]

53 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said:

Kasper Schmeichel

Is this likely? Surely his wages are way out of our league?

[Jerseybean]

1 hour ago, George Rs said:

HMM nailed on.

Kane Wilson out maybe?

Andy King out/coaching

Personally will be interested to see if pring gets offers as well.

Agree, I hadn’t included HNM or KW as they haven’t featured lately in our first team squad. 

[Frenchay Red]

12 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Is this likely? Surely his wages are way out of our league?

I very much doubt it. Tins said at Senior Reds that we wouldn't be looking for another GK.

[archie andrews]

5 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said:

I very much doubt it. Tins said at Senior Reds that we wouldn't be looking for another GK.

Cant believe that sorry..... 

[bcfc01]

25 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Agree, I hadn’t included HNM or KW as they haven’t featured lately in our first team squad. 

Neither has Taylor Moore.

[italian dave]

1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said:

King will surely be stepping back further next term. Pring will probably get offers yes.

There's also a very small chance someone takes a punt on Conway - 12 goals in 2,000 minutes in an injury hit season is a decent CV at his age. Some of his other stats are outstanding as well. He tops the division for shots on target % (52.6%) and has a top five shot/goal ratio of 0.24 goals per shot (Haaland is only slightly more lethal at 0.27 - he just takes loads and loads more shots). No penalties padding those stats either. He's proper good.

I think we'd refuse everything bar an astronomical offer - especially if we bank money from Scott - but there's a chance of some top Champ/low PL suitors coming sniffing.

100%. Conway has all the makings of a proper goalscorer, doesn't he? Just that knack of being in the right place, and he makes it look easy. Saturday's being a case in point.

The other player I wouldn't be surprised if we had an approach for is Vyner. Dependant very much on whether we can get him onto a new contract. But if I were in his shoes I wouldn't rush - and other clubs will realise he then has only a season to go. And can't knock his record this season - most definitely an established Championship level CB.

Edited May 1, 2023 by italian dave

[Frenchay Red]

33 minutes ago, archie andrews said:

Cant believe that sorry..... 

You had to be there

[Jerseybean]

32 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Neither has Taylor Moore.

Which is why I didn’t include him either

[Better Red]

2 hours ago, robinforlife2 said:

Ins: Ross McCrorie, 

Maybe: Jack Currie, Joe Bryan, Kasper Schmeichel

Outs: Alex Scott, HNM, Kalas, DaSilva, Bajic, Kane Wilson, and King to be retained as a coach.

Would not be surprised if Weimann or Pring moved on either. 

Also Out Def Taylor More and Edwards is likely

That would make 8 going out

Will need maybe 5.

 

 

[DaveF]

1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said:

Is this likely? Surely his wages are way out of our league?

Not really, he has 2 years left to run on his deal and performed very well for Nice this season.

Didn't Nige more or less confirm King will be offered a player/coach role a few weeks ago? He's played well recently and has been fit all season so not sure why so many people are convinced he's retiring.

Edited May 1, 2023 by DaveF

[RedM]

4 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

King will surely be stepping back further next term. Pring will probably get offers yes.

There's also a very small chance someone takes a punt on Conway - 12 goals in 2,000 minutes in an injury hit season is a decent CV at his age. Some of his other stats are outstanding as well. He tops the division for shots on target % (52.6%) and has a top five shot/goal ratio of 0.24 goals per shot (Haaland is only slightly more lethal at 0.27 - he just takes loads and loads more shots). No penalties padding those stats either. He's proper good.

I think we'd refuse everything bar an astronomical offer - especially if we bank money from Scott - but there's a chance of some top Champ/low PL suitors coming sniffing.

I am quite worried we might lose Conway and even Pring. They have both been overshadowed by Scott but will be on someones radar for sure.

[Dredd]

Out

Kalas JD Wilson Scott Bajic

 

Potential surprise outs

Vyner Williams Downsy

 

Ins

No names but CB x 2 LB CM x 2 (one being the Scottish lad who can cover a number of positions) plus maybe one surprise we don't see coming

[W-S-M Seagull]

Am I the only one that thinks we need at least 2 midfielders? 3 when Scott goes. 

We certainly need a defensive type midfielder.

[Cityboy1954]

4 hours ago, robinforlife2 said:

Ins: Ross McCrorie, 

Maybe: Jack Currie, Joe Bryan, Kasper Schmeichel

Outs: Alex Scott, HNM, Kalas, DaSilva, Bajic, Kane Wilson, and King to be retained as a coach.

Would not be surprised if Weimann or Pring moved on either. 

Bit worried about the Aberdeen fans view of McCrorie lets hope they are all wrong on their forum 

Edited May 1, 2023 by Cityboy1954

[bpexile]

A possible failed bid  for Viner ?, he's had a very very good season.

[Lew-T]

1 hour ago, RedM said:

I am quite worried we might lose Conway and even Pring. They have both been overshadowed by Scott but will be on someones radar for sure.

I wouldn’t at all be surprised if we saw an offer come in for Pring. He’s versatile, quick, at the perfect age…

He’s been fantastic this season.

Edited May 1, 2023 by Lew-T

[Mr Popodopolous]

36 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Am I the only one that thinks we need at least 2 midfielders? 3 when Scott goes. 

We certainly need a defensive type midfielder.

I agree with this, on the quantity certainly. 2 minimum.

Naismith, James, Williams- on the way out though is Scott probably, Massengo definitely and King well maybe maybe not? Age but then again he has been useful. We do play 3 in CM so yeah 2 minimum IMO.

Likewise we have already lost 2 CBs experienced ones at that, could lose a third- Baker, Klose and potentially Kalas so two of them needed I reckon.

[Swede]

4 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

Is this likely? Surely his wages are way out of our league?

Hmm Nice and League Un plus money or Bristol and second tier football. Tough one.

[GrahamC]

39 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Am I the only one that thinks we need at least 2 midfielders? 3 when Scott goes. 

We certainly need a defensive type midfielder.

We need 2 if Scott goes.

If we assume he & HNM are leaving that still means we have James, Williams, Naismith, King, plus Weimann, Mehmeti & Benarous who can all play the 10, two more seems enough to me.

I see a lot of people say we need a defensive midfielder, James is certainly one, Naismith too when he plays there & no one appears to think that’s what Williams is, well he’s minimal goal threat & hardly box to box, he’s a defensive midfielder for me & as he is into the last year of his contract next season is huge for him.

[Lew-T]

40 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Am I the only one that thinks we need at least 2 midfielders? 3 when Scott goes. 

We certainly need a defensive type midfielder.

Yep, with you on that.

Even though I rate Joe Williams, he is simply not reliable to last the pace of this league. James has been excellent but he’s not getting any younger and King will be 35 in October.

 

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

We need 2 if Scott goes.

If we assume he & HNM are leaving that still means we have James, Williams, Naismith, King, plus Weimann, Mehmeti & Benarous who can all play the 10, two more seems enough to me.

I see a lot of people say we need a defensive midfielder, James is certainly one, Naismith too when he plays there & no one appears to think that’s what Williams is, well he’s minimal goal threat & hardly box to box, he’s a defensive midfielder for me & as he is into the last year of his contract next season is huge for him.

Yep, we have three very capable players to play CM (I’m not a great lover of the DM pigeon hole)….James, Naismith and Williams.  Williams has had just one injury this season, and recovered well.

We don’t have to overplay them if we get them to share minutes and get a bit of cover from new signing.  If you get someone like Archie Collins, plus those three…back up by OTC, then you’re not far far off what you need.

Much will depend how we play, 4213, 4diamond2, 433, etc…and that’s without the likes of Weimann or Sykes adding numbers too

[W-S-M Seagull]

5 hours ago, GrahamC said:

We need 2 if Scott goes.

If we assume he & HNM are leaving that still means we have James, Williams, Naismith, King, plus Weimann, Mehmeti & Benarous who can all play the 10, two more seems enough to me.

I see a lot of people say we need a defensive midfielder, James is certainly one, Naismith too when he plays there & no one appears to think that’s what Williams is, well he’s minimal goal threat & hardly box to box, he’s a defensive midfielder for me & as he is into the last year of his contract next season is huge for him.

Does it? 

Williams and Naismith can't be relied upon for an entire season. King is at the end of his career and Matty James also has his issues with injuries from time to time. We will have to see if Benarous can fully recover. 

We need a proper midfield destroyer. We've not had one since Paul Hartley. None of our players can be described as one of them. Naismith is more of a deep laying play maker imo. James can play cdm out of need but he's played the vast majority of his career as a cm. He does a job at cdm but he isn't a midfield destroyer. Williams is probably the closest we've got to a midfield destroyer but I wouldn't describe him as one either. 

In my opinion we need that destroyer and a box to box midfielder and then some sort of replacement for Scott and then maybe someone who can provide cover/competition for James. 

I think Williams will be soon be on the way out due to his injury record.

If we're gonna play with 3 in the midfield then we need 5/6 midfielders in the squad imo to ensure we have competition and cover. 

 

[Midred]

13 hours ago, Dredd said:

Out

Kalas JD Wilson Scott Bajic

 

Potential surprise outs

Vyner Williams Downsy

 

Ins

No names but CB x 2 LB CM x 2 (one being the Scottish lad who can cover a number of positions) plus maybe one surprise we don't see coming

Shires in for Downsey?

[GrahamC]

7 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Does it? 

Williams and Naismith can't be relied upon for an entire season. King is at the end of his career and Matty James also has his issues with injuries from time to time. We will have to see if Benarous can fully recover. 

We need a proper midfield destroyer. We've not had one since Paul Hartley. None of our players can be described as one of them. Naismith is more of a deep laying play maker imo. James can play cdm out of need but he's played the vast majority of his career as a cm. He does a job at cdm but he isn't a midfield destroyer. Williams is probably the closest we've got to a midfield destroyer but I wouldn't describe him as one either. 

In my opinion we need that destroyer and a box to box midfielder and then some sort of replacement for Scott and then maybe someone who can provide cover/competition for James. 

I think Williams will be soon be on the way out due to his injury record.

If we're gonna play with 3 in the midfield then we need 5/6 midfielders in the squad imo to ensure we have competition and cover. 

 

You’re entitled to your opinion but Naismith usually has a better availability record than this season, he started 45 for Luton the year before.

Williams has actually been in the match day squad 35 times this season with a game to go, 36/46 isn’t too shabby at all.

James started 32 last season, this season he’s started…32, great for planning, we can expect to need someone to fill in for him 14 times. He’s our best midfielder.

King will certainly reduce his game time but as someone who didn’t expect him to feature 25 times as he’s done & be available for all 46 I’m not writing him off.

Pearson talks about not collecting players & as Massengo really hasn’t been part of the squad much this season I don’t see us effectively replacing Scott with 3 players.

My recollection of Hartley’s one season was he struggled to play Saturday then midweek, I actually thought peak Korey Smith was better than him, myself & Matty James is at least his equal..

 

[LondonBristolian]

My guess is we will retain:

O’ Leary 

Tanner

Wilson

Vyner

Atkinson 

Naismith

Pring

James

King

Williams 

Benarous 

Taylor-Clarke 

Weimann

Sykes 

Cornick

Wells

Conway

Bell

Mehmeti 

 

I am uncertain on Bajic and think we will lose Dasilva, Kalas and Scott.

 

Signing-wise I reckon two CB, one LB, one CM, one CM-cum-forward and perhaps a Goalkeeper. 

[Bazooka Joe]

20 hours ago, robinforlife2 said:

Ins: Ross McCrorie, 

Maybe: Jack Currie, Joe Bryan, Kasper Schmeichel

Outs: Alex Scott, HNM, Kalas, DaSilva, Bajic, Kane Wilson, and King to be retained as a coach.

Would not be surprised if Weimann or Pring moved on either. 

Kasper ?

Not a ghost of a chance.

[Bazooka Joe]

20 hours ago, George Rs said:

HMM nailed on.

A big cross to bear if he then performs brilliantly elsewhere.

[Northern Red]

As an aside, Kasper Schmeichel was the guest panelist on Sky last night for the Leicester game. He came across very well, and wasn't afraid to challenge some of the statements that outfield players-turned pundits make about goalkeeping.

No mention of his future or anything like that, as you'd expect, but they did talk about his time at Leicester and it's very clear how much he thinks of Nige and that he gives him a lot of the credit for what was in place to enable them to go on and win the league under Ranieri.

[East End Old Boy]

20 hours ago, Frenchay Red said:

I very much doubt it. Tins said at Senior Reds that we wouldn't be looking for another GK.

Tins also said we will only be recruiting players who we can improve to add value and, potentially, sell on, so this surely rules Bryan out?

[East End Old Boy]

20 hours ago, archie andrews said:

Cant believe that sorry..... 

Tins indicated that Nige doesn’t see goalkeepers as a high priority, no big fees or wages!

[Frenchay Red]

4 hours ago, East End Old Boy said:

Tins also said we will only be recruiting players who we can improve to add value and, potentially, sell on, so this surely rules Bryan out?

That's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to shatter the hopes of many on here .

But who knows, Tins and NP may be making an exception if Joe actually is coming back.

[Cityboy1954]

16 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Does it? 

Williams and Naismith can't be relied upon for an entire season. King is at the end of his career and Matty James also has his issues with injuries from time to time. We will have to see if Benarous can fully recover. 

We need a proper midfield destroyer. We've not had one since Paul Hartley. None of our players can be described as one of them. Naismith is more of a deep laying play maker imo. James can play cdm out of need but he's played the vast majority of his career as a cm. He does a job at cdm but he isn't a midfield destroyer. Williams is probably the closest we've got to a midfield destroyer but I wouldn't describe him as one either. 

In my opinion we need that destroyer and a box to box midfielder and then some sort of replacement for Scott and then maybe someone who can provide cover/competition for James. 

I think Williams will be soon be on the way out due to his injury record.

If we're gonna play with 3 in the midfield then we need 5/6 midfielders in the squad imo to ensure we have competition and cover. 

 

Good post.

[Bazooka Joe]

Johnson out.

 

 

 

[megansdad]

don't understand why we would not extend Andy Kings contract. He has been excellent when called upon and is clearly a positive role model for the younger players.

[Midlands Robin]

I'd definately give King another year and have him in a player / coach / acadamy role.

Sadly while I think we may offer Kalas another deal on reduced terms, I think his time with us is up.

Dasilva may well end up in another Championship side which could bite us in the arse later on.

There's no way I'd expect HNM to come back. I think his bridges were well and trully burnt with his attitude.

I'd forgotten we still had Taylor Moore in contract. We must have been paying him a kings ransom given how were unable to offload him over the last 7 (yes that's right SEVEN) years.

 

[Midred]

I keep looking at the title and wondering if it was an alternative to "Anything for the weekend, sir"?

[chinapig]

2 hours ago, megansdad said:

don't understand why we would not extend Andy Kings contract. He has been excellent when called upon and is clearly a positive role model for the younger players.

Nigel said in a recent press conference that he wants King to stay. I'm sure a deal will be done.

[East End Old Boy]

37 minutes ago, Midred said:

I keep looking at the title and wondering if it was an alternative to "Anything for the weekend, sir"?

Had your haircut on a Friday did you? Suppose you need to be of a certain age to understand!

[cider hoss rules]

17 hours ago, Midred said:

I keep looking at the title and wondering if it was an alternative to "Anything for the weekend, sir"?

When the barber asked me that and I said yes……. he gave me a bloody lawnmower!

[cidered abroad]

28 minutes ago, cider hoss rules said:

When the barber asked me that and I said yes……. he gave me a bloody lawnmower!

Brilliant!

[Port Said Red]

On 02/05/2023 at 14:43, East End Old Boy said:

Tins also said we will only be recruiting players who we can improve to add value and, potentially, sell on, so this surely rules Bryan out?

 

On 02/05/2023 at 19:33, Frenchay Red said:

That's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to shatter the hopes of many on here .

But who knows, Tins and NP may be making an exception if Joe actually is coming back.

We have made exceptions before in Nige's time, they might also consider that they can improve Joe by playing him in a slightly different role. If we get him on a "free" (no such thing in reality) then value for money whilst here would be looked at in place of sell on value.

[Frenchay Red]

9 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

 

We have made exceptions before in Nige's time, they might also consider that they can improve Joe by playing him in a slightly different role. If we get him on a "free" (no such thing in reality) then value for money whilst here would be looked at in place of sell on value.

I think it would be a good addition to the squad and I don't imagine Tins would give too much away to the Senior Reds, unless he thought we wouldn't remember any of it because of our age!