Playoffs

[BCFCGav]

2 minutes ago, Carey 6 said:

Impressive.

The year from which we went so close and could ‘kick on’ this bloody sport hurts my heart sometimes!

[Davefevs]

It will be interesting to see how Boro react to this during the summer.  Recruitment Envelope A or Envelope B….looking like it’s B!

[GrahamC]

2 minutes ago, Super said:

Or Plymouth...

They’ll have a smaller budget than Rotherham next season.

Their aim is 21st.

[Northern Red]

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

It will be interesting to see how Boro react to this during the summer.  Recruitment Envelope A or Envelope B….looking like it’s B!

Wouldn't surprise me if Carrick gets his pick of Man Utd's kids to loan.

[AppyDAZE]

3 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Yep playoff for the right to finish 20th in the Prem next season

 

3 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

And 1st the season after with parachute payments

Brilliantly sums up what football has come to.

Money, money, money.

 

 

 

 

[Supersonic Robin]

3 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

What you are really trying to say, is: "****ing hell. How do we make such a pig's ear of this division?"

Yepp, something not far off that!

2 minutes ago, Super said:

Shows what can be done for clubs like us.

"Clubs like us"!? That's mildly insulting!  

But you're right, the one positive about seeing yet more clubs overtake us is the fact that it illustrates we can (and should) do much more.

2 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

Why? They both deserve it.

See HoldenBall's answer below!. As I think other's have now mentioned in the thread, both Luton and Coventry were L2 teams about half a decade ago!

(also, it's a remarkably unsexy fixture for a play-off final between two fairly dislikable teams)

1 minute ago, HoldenBall said:

Agreed. Very underwhelming and frustrating that teams like those two can make it to a play off final and we finish 16th 

Agreed. In the context of the last 1-2 seasons it's not so bad, but in the context of the last 5-10 seasons it makes your stomach turn!

[Super]

1 minute ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Yepp, something not far off that!

"Clubs like us"!? That's mildly insulting!  

But you're right, the one positive about seeing yet more clubs overtake us is the fact that it illustrates we can (and should) do much more.

See HoldenBall's answer below!. As I think other's have now mentioned in the thread, both Luton and Coventry were L2 teams about half a decade ago!

(also, it's a remarkably unsexy fixture for a play-off final between two fairly dislikable teams)

Agreed. In the context of the last 1-2 seasons it's not so bad, but in the context of the last 5-10 seasons it makes your stomach turn!

Why is it insulting?

[IAmNick]

I find the "teams like these getting to the prem" comments quite amusing... I think a lot of people probably see City in a similar bucket to Luton and Coventry... if we're lucky. Yeah both dropped down to L2 briefly in their recent history, but they've also both been in the top division longer than us and more recently than us. Coventry were there for about 30 years for gods sake. We've bobbled between the 2nd and 3rd tier for the last 40 bloody years, with more time in the third than the second!

"Teams like these" indeed... they have a more successful history than us and deserve it this year. Just because it's Luton and they have a shit ground doesn't make us better than them.

If you want to measure on money spent though we'd be way in the lead I suspect... Up the City!

Good luck to them both imo.

Edited May 17, 2023 by IAmNick

[cityexile]

There is always a lot of survivorship bias in these comments. Plenty with more resources with us have gone the other way, and more have not made anywhere near the progress of those two.

Fair play to them. Shows what can be done, let’s embrace it.

[Lew-T]

Yeah it’s a bit of a sickner to see that play off final. 
 

But we’ll get there…

[Bristol Oil Services]

13 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said:

Two clubs that were on their knees financially go past us.

Bolton will probably be next

Cov v Luton. Watch it and weep, Steve Lansdown 

[IAmNick]

6 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

See HoldenBall's answer below!. As I think other's have now mentioned in the thread, both Luton and Coventry were L2 teams about half a decade ago!

 

Yeah and when WE were last in L2 they were both in the top division - so a few years ago they'd have been saying the reverse. We were happy in the championship while they had both dropped all the way from the top division to the bottom.

That's life in the world of football. Everyone seems to see things like this through a very one sided lens.

  

6 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Agreed. In the context of the last 1-2 seasons it's not so bad, but in the context of the last 5-10 seasons it makes your stomach turn!

And in the context of the last 30-40+ we're a division above our usual place, and Coventry are a division below.

Edited May 17, 2023 by IAmNick

[2015]

Proper play off final imo. 2 sides who haven't been in the top flight for a while. Bit like Bristol City vs Hull in 2008? 

Hopefully Coventry win, the side who play Football and not Rugby.

[Northern Red]

Bet some of you lot are an absolute hoot at parties.

[W-S-M Seagull]

20 minutes ago, miser said:

Deserved. 

Really? Not sure I've seen a dirtier team all season. Everytime Boro went forward they fouled. Doyle should have been off. 

The time wasting from their gk was ridiculous and he should have seen red too. The rolling around on the floor from him like he had been shot in the head despite no contact to his head was embarrassing. 

[slartibartfast]

Typical, I wanted either Boro or Sunderland to go up (proper clubs with Prem history). They will be clogging up the Championship  with plenty of strength and probably obstructing us to get auto or play off positions, either of the other two will be one season wonders and straight back down , with their ill-gotten parachute cash !

[Bristol Oil Services]

24 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said:

That Coventry song is as boring as Leeds’ Marching on Togerther & Birmingham’s End of the Road

And that Norwich one

[slartibartfast]

7 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

I find the "teams like these getting to the prem" comments quite amusing... I think a lot of people probably see City in a similar bucket to Luton and Coventry... if we're lucky. Yeah both dropped down to L2 briefly in their recent history, but they've also both been in the top division longer than us and more recently than us. Coventry were there for about 30 years for gods sake. We've bobbled between the 2nd and 3rd tier for the last 40 bloody years, with more time in the third than the second!

"Teams like these" indeed... they have a more successful history than us and deserve it this year. Just because it's Luton and they have a shit ground doesn't make us better than them.

If you want to measure on money spent though we'd be way in the lead I suspect... Up the City!

Good luck to them both imo.

As a TEAM obviously not but as a CLUB definitely .

[Bristol Oil Services]

6 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

I find the "teams like these getting to the prem" comments quite amusing... I think a lot of people probably see City in a similar bucket to Luton and Coventry... if we're lucky. Yeah both dropped down to L2 briefly in their recent history, but they've also both been in the top division longer than us and more recently than us. Coventry were there for about 30 years for gods sake. We've bobbled between the 2nd and 3rd tier for the last 40 bloody years, with more time in the third than the second!

"Teams like these" indeed... they have a more successful history than us and deserve it this year. Just because it's Luton and they have a shit ground doesn't make us better than them.

If you want to measure on money spent though we'd be way in the lead I suspect... Up the City!

Good luck to them both imo.

That Coventry City is long gone. It's nothing to do with that history. Same for Luton really.

What grates is the oft repeated - defeatist, can't-do attitude - of "we can't compete with parachute payment clubs" of people on here excusing abysmal football decision making by our club.

Truth is, we can't compete with:

Preston

Millwall 

Cov

Luton

Various other minnows/middling Championship clubs.

 

What also grates is an owner that cannot "own" this truth

[Olé]

Seems to be a mix of starry eyes from some for Luton and Coventry's ascent or exasperation from others for the extent they have passed us and carried on.

Isn't the real story for us that it is now guaranteed that an overachiever will go up while arguably 2 bigger teams stay down, other big sides come down from the Prem.

Draw your own conclusion on the League 1 sides but next season is definitely going to be a tougher Championship than some of the ones we have so far struggled in.

[slartibartfast]

5 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Really? Not sure I've seen a dirtier team all season. Everytime Boro went forward they fouled. Doyle should have been off. 

The time wasting from their gk was ridiculous and he should have seen red too. The rolling around on the floor from him like he had been shot in the head despite no contact to his head was embarrassing. 

Either will be straight back down !

[bredwood]

I’m pleased for Mark Robins. It’s been a long journey for him scrabbling around the lower divisions. Wasn’t he interviewed for the City job some years back?

[Super]

1 minute ago, slartibartfast said:

As a TEAM obviously not but as a CLUB definitely .

They have both achieved more than us. Not even a debate.

[Supersonic Robin]

10 minutes ago, Super said:

Why is it insulting?

It was only a joke! No offence, but you've seemed strangely keen to stick up for Luton (and even Tom Lockyer!) at every opportunity you get in this thread?

But since you've asked, the joke is based on the fact they have a significantly inferior stadium, fanbase, and the town itself is a bit of a dump. It's less funny when you have to explain it though  

6 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Yeah and when WE were last in L2 they were both in the top division - so a few years ago they'd have been saying the reverse. We were happy in the championship while they had both dropped all the way from the top division to the bottom.

That's life in the world of football. Everyone seems to see things like this through a very one sided lens.

See where you're coming from mate, but let's be honest, in the grand scheme of things there is still absolutely no way that a club like Luton Town should be outperforming us.

Even Coventry - on par with us? Sure. But outperforming us? I don't really think so.

[slartibartfast]

Just now, Super said:

They have both achieved more than us. Not even a debate.

We'll we've NEVER spent years in non league for a start !

[Super]

Just now, Supersonic Robin said:

It was only a joke! No offence, but you've seemed strangely keen to stick up for Luton (and even Tom Lockyer!) at every opportunity you get in this thread?

But since you've asked, the joke is based on the fact they have a significantly inferior stadium, fanbase, and the town itself is a bit of a dump. It's less funny when you have to explain it though  

See where you're coming from mate, but let's be honest, in the grand scheme of things there is still absolutely no way that a club like Luton Town should be outperforming us.

Even Coventry - on par with us? Sure. But outperforming us? I don't really think so.

Along with Coventry they have had a fantastic season that's why. Credit where its deserved. Hope Cov do it.

Just now, slartibartfast said:

We'll we've NEVER spent years in non league for a start !

Or never won a major trophy.

[W-S-M Seagull]

4 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

That Coventry City is long gone. It's nothing to do with that history. Same for Luton really.

What grates is the oft repeated - defeatist, can't-do attitude - of "we can't compete with parachute payment clubs" of people on here excusing abysmal football decision making by our club.

Truth is, we can't compete with:

Preston

Millwall 

Cov

Luton

Various other minnows/middling Championship clubs.

 

What also grates is an owner that cannot "own" this truth

It's worth remembering Cov have increased their wages by 9 million plus at a time where we were having to make serious cuts and couldn't really sign anyone. We have had to make do with what we've got.

I'm sure if Pearson was able to increase his budget by 9 million then we'd have got 3 wins more to get into the play offs.

Edited May 17, 2023 by W-S-M Seagull

[Supersonic Robin]

2 minutes ago, Olé said:

Seems to be a mix of starry eyes from some for Luton and Coventry's ascent or exasperation from others for the extent they have passed us and carried on.

Isn't the real story for us that it is now guaranteed that an overachiever will go up while arguably 2 bigger teams stay down, other big sides come down from the Prem.

Draw your own conclusion on the League 1 sides but next season is definitely going to be a tougher Championship than some of the ones we have so far struggled in.

Very true, and arguably one of the most important ways to look at this.

Our league retains 2 clubs who have superior resources to us, and loses 1 who didn't (and will now receive Prem money).

[cidercity1987]

23 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Fair play to them though, shows it can be done! Sunderland would have been the same kind of story.

As frustrating as it is fir us to see the likes of them doing it imagine how the likes of WBA, Norwich and Watford feel

Erm those three clubs have had plenty of Championship success 

We are no smaller certainly than Watford and its never us

[slartibartfast]

2 minutes ago, Super said:

Along with Coventry they have had a fantastic season that's why. Credit where its deserved. Hope Cov do it.

Or never won a major trophy.

So have you applied for your Luton ST ,then ?

[Markthehorn]

2 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Very true, and arguably one of the most important ways to look at this.

Our league retains 2 clubs who have superior resources to us, and loses 1 who didn't (and will now receive Prem money).

As it stands don’t think we (Watford ) will be a threat unless we really improve the squad not just in ability but attitude and desire .

Luton and Coventry have shown teams like us and Norwich up big time .

They remind me of our play off winning sides - not technically great or play fancy football but get get the job done and play as a team .

Edited May 17, 2023 by Markthehorn

[Super]

2 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

So have you applied for your Luton ST ,then ?

Stop posting nonsense.

[chowie]

5 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

See where you're coming from mate, but let's be honest, in the grand scheme of things there is still absolutely no way that a club like Luton Town should be outperforming us.

Even Coventry - on par with us? Sure. But outperforming us? I don't really think so.

That's football and why we love it! I'm sure fans of other clubs would have said the same thing when it was us and Hull in the final.

[slartibartfast]

1 minute ago, Super said:

Stop posting nonsense.

I will if you will !

[IAmNick]

9 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

That Coventry City is long gone. It's nothing to do with that history. Same for Luton really.

What grates is the oft repeated - defeatist, can't-do attitude - of "we can't compete with parachute payment clubs" of people on here excusing abysmal football decision making by our club.

Truth is, we can't compete with:

Preston

Millwall 

Cov

Luton

Various other minnows/middling Championship clubs.

 

What also grates is an owner that cannot "own" this truth

Totally agree with you there, I just don't like the borderline snobbery from some which isn't really warranted imo.

10 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

See where you're coming from mate, but let's be honest, in the grand scheme of things there is still absolutely no way that a club like Luton Town should be outperforming us.

Even Coventry - on par with us? Sure. But outperforming us? I don't really think so.

In the terms of resources spent in the last 10-15 years absolutely not, but that's our failure more than anything else!

Frustrating though certainly.

[petehinton]

Howe at Bournemouth, GJ at Yeovil, Robins at Cov. 
 

Top 3 jobs in EFL history for me, nothing comes close. Absolutely incredible. 
 

I remember the moans and groans after we drew 0-0 at home to Coventry this season. “Can’t even beat bottom of the league at home”

[miser]

18 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Really? Not sure I've seen a dirtier team all season. Everytime Boro went forward they fouled. Doyle should have been off. 

The time wasting from their gk was ridiculous and he should have seen red too. The rolling around on the floor from him like he had been shot in the head despite no contact to his head was embarrassing. 

They were the better team (in my opinion). 

[slartibartfast]

Cov v Luton................what a spectacular feast of total football that will be...........it's just a shame I'm having my hair done that day !

[Supersonic Robin]

13 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

That Coventry City is long gone. It's nothing to do with that history. Same for Luton really.

What grates is the oft repeated - defeatist, can't-do attitude - of "we can't compete with parachute payment clubs" of people on here excusing abysmal football decision making by our club.

Truth is, we can't compete with:

Preston

Millwall 

Cov

Luton

Various other minnows/middling Championship clubs.

 

What also grates is an owner that cannot "own" this truth

Spot on. A great way of articulating the frustration that I and many others feel about seeing a Luton vs Coventry play off final.

Absolutely no disrespect intended to others on this forum, but it surprises me and worries me when others don't seem to share this frustration. Is it an indication of a long running lack of ambition within the club and fanbase?

[richyy66]

Fair play to Coventry. Mark Robbins has done an incredible job.

They have had all sorts of issues with their ground etc but are now on the brink of Premier League.

Good on them. Hope they stuff Luton in the final.

 

[Super]

3 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

Cov v Luton................what a spectacular feast of total football that will be...........it's just a shame I'm having my hair done that day !

Somebody is bitter...

[Ronnie Sinclair]

Boro miss out, my aching sides 

[slartibartfast]

Just now, Super said:

Somebody is bitter...

Yes,  I was really looking forward to it !

[TheCulturalBomb]

The fact that either of these clubs is going into the Premier League and even reached the play off final is crazy. And an absolute statement of where we have languished as a club for a long time now. 

[WessexPest]

Kudos to them both - and may the best team win. I care not who, but hopefully on penalties after a scintillating 4-4 draw a la Charlton v Sunderland in 1998.

Fond memories of Keith Houchen and Danny Wilson triumphing against the odds in Wembley showpieces in the 1980s.

A few Smoggies who should be eating copious amounts of humble pie tonight after the piss-taking they did to the Mackems yesterday. Some of them sounded like they were already promoted.

 

[GrahamC]

8 hours ago, Olé said:

Seems to be a mix of starry eyes from some for Luton and Coventry's ascent or exasperation from others for the extent they have passed us and carried on.

Isn't the real story for us that it is now guaranteed that an overachiever will go up while arguably 2 bigger teams stay down, other big sides come down from the Prem.

Draw your own conclusion on the League 1 sides but next season is definitely going to be a tougher Championship than some of the ones we have so far struggled in.

Been a very unusual season, two of the 3 relegated sides have made absolutely no impression on the playoff picture, a very similar one to the year us & Hull made the final. No doubt at all that Leicester, Southampton & either Everton or Leeds coming down, plus Ipswich spending fortunes coming up, will make it a much tougher league next year.

8 hours ago, slartibartfast said:

Cov v Luton................what a spectacular feast of total football that will be...........it's just a shame I'm having my hair done that day !

Really don’t understand this comment from a Coventry perspective, Luton do play ugly football, Coventry definitely don’t, their midfield passing was very good last night & they possess the best striker in the league for me.

Edited May 18, 2023 by GrahamC

[1960maaan]

14 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Really don’t understand this comment from a Coventry perspective, Luton do play ugly football, Coventry definitely don’t, their midfield passing was very good last night & they possess the best striker in the league for me.

I totally agree, but gyokeres decision making was poor come the end last night. Could have been a lot more comfortable with just a better choices on the several breaks they had in the last 15 minutes.

Oh, and to add to the doom and gloom over Us Vs Them ... just saw this
A short 5 years ago in Div 4

[WarksRobin]

My word there is a lot of jealousy/snobbishness on this thread. Both Coventry and Luton have been in the top division much more recently than us. It just shows that it you get it right on the pitch, any team from the Championship can get to the play off final like we did in 2008. Equally, it highlights that it has been a long time since we last got it right on the pitch (in the Championship). 
FWIW I think Luton will go up. They lost their manager and some players and showed that the club set up works well because they kept being competitive. Hopefully we will soon have our own season to celebrate. 

[Carey 6]

17 minutes ago, WarksRobin said:

My word there is a lot of jealousy/snobbishness on this thread. Both Coventry and Luton have been in the top division much more recently than us. It just shows that it you get it right on the pitch, any team from the Championship can get to the play off final like we did in 2008. Equally, it highlights that it has been a long time since we last got it right on the pitch (in the Championship). 
FWIW I think Luton will go up. They lost their manager and some players and showed that the club set up works well because they kept being competitive. Hopefully we will soon have our own season to celebrate. 

Nothing wrong with being jealous of the success. If you're not jealous of it then what do you really want for City?

Snobbishness is different, I'm not sure I've seen too much of it on here. I don't for one second think we deserve it more than them! - If anyone does think that way, why?

Most just making the point that another two non parachute payment teams that have come up into the Championship more recently than us are now competing to play in the best division in the world. If anything, it gives me hope that we can do it. 

[cidered abroad]

36 minutes ago, Carey 6 said:

Nothing wrong with being jealous of the success. If you're not jealous of it then what do you really want for City?

Snobbishness is different, I'm not sure I've seen too much of it on here. I don't for one second think we deserve it more than them! - If anyone does think that way, why?

Most just making the point that another two non parachute payment teams that have come up into the Championship more recently than us are now competing to play in the best division in the world. If anything, it gives me hope that we can do it. 

But both of them are aiming to reclaim a place in the top tier that they have previously held for considerably longer than Bristol City. And both Coventry and Luton have won a trophy or two.

In that respect we are the minnows.

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Really don’t understand this comment from a Coventry perspective, Luton do play ugly football, Coventry definitely don’t, their midfield passing was very good last night & they possess the best striker in the league for me.

Coventry definitely do too. They are dirty, made 16 fouls last night and it should have been more and then they hit it long to Gykores. Their GK spent about 3 mins taking each goal kick and his play acting despite not getting a bang on the head was incredibly embarrassing. Horrible style of football.

[Top Robin]

6 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Coventry definitely do too. They are dirty, made 16 fouls last night and it should have been more and then they hit it long to Gykores. Their GK spent about 3 mins taking each goal kick and his play acting despite not getting a bang on the head was incredibly embarrassing. Horrible style of football.

Sometimes I wish we would get stuck in more even if it meant giving away fouls 

I don't think it's dirty, it's just playing hard and passionately in a massively important game.

[W-S-M Seagull]

2 minutes ago, Top Robin said:

Sometimes I wish we would get stuck in more even if it meant giving away fouls 

I don't think it's dirty, it's just playing hard and passionately in a massively important game.

There is getting stuck in and then there is being a dirty team. Do I want to support a team where the GK rolls round faking a head injury? No chance. It's a form of cheating imo.

[beaverface]

If Luton get promoted, would they be the first team to go from non-league to the top division since the Premier has been formed?

I agree with comments above, I am jealous, but not because I'm bitter or feel we're better than other teams, the results don't lie over the course of the season. My frustration is how we can't improve ourselves quickly enough without seeing other teams surpass us from lower down.

However I console myself that there are 19 other clubs in our division who probably feel the same way as what I do.

[Rob k]

2 hours ago, Carey 6 said:

Nothing wrong with being jealous of the success. If you're not jealous of it then what do you really want for City?

Snobbishness is different, I'm not sure I've seen too much of it on here. I don't for one second think we deserve it more than them! - If anyone does think that way, why?

Most just making the point that another two non parachute payment teams that have come up into the Championship more recently than us are now competing to play in the best division in the world. If anything, it gives me hope that we can do it. 

This is it for me, im not jealous of Cov or Luton as clubs, i am probably more annoyed that this season was there for the taking and we were not in any position to have a go at it. 

[cidered abroad]

1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Coventry definitely do too. They are dirty, made 16 fouls last night and it should have been more and then they hit it long to Gykores. Their GK spent about 3 mins taking each goal kick and his play acting despite not getting a bang on the head was incredibly embarrassing. Horrible style of football.

So what we really need at City is a manager who expects his players to use all the dark arts that are known.

While at City, we have someone who ,IMO, is a decent person in regards to how we play the game - not naive and unaware of the dark arts but nowhere near the way some clubs players behave.

And Mr Honest Lansdown has a high regard for Robins?

[Red-Robbo]

9 minutes ago, Rob k said:

This is it for me, im not jealous of Cov or Luton as clubs,

 

At the end of the day, their fans either live in or grew up in the horrors that are Luton and Coventry. Believe me, we can be thankful we don't.

[Guest]

15 hours ago, bredwood said:

I’m pleased for Mark Robins. It’s been a long journey for him scrabbling around the lower divisions. Wasn’t he interviewed for the City job some years back?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-owner-to-make-decision-1701132

Bristol CITY owner Stephen Lansdown is flying in to complete the Championship strugglers’ chase for a new manager.

Lansdown is due to meet ex-Barnsley boss Mark Robins, 41, and will make a formal approach to speak with St Johnstone chief Derek McInnes, 40, in the next few days.

[RedM]

No jealousy or bitterness here either. All I will say is that if someone had asked me to pick out the two playoff finalists from that group of four teams, either at the beginning of the season or at the season's end, I would not have said Luton and Coventry.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

Just for a moment last night I thought that grey long haired and droopy moustached bloke wearing the tam o' shanter style hat and Coventry scarf was Tommy Hutchison. 

 

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

442 running a story that if Luton are promoted Prem rules would prevent them from playing at Kenilworth Road without a £10M (ball park figure) extensive refurbishment and rebuild of a stand. The story however is lacking detail of rules to be complied with, which stand etc so I'm unsure if its validity. 

[miser]

26 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

442 running a story that if Luton are promoted Prem rules would prevent them from playing at Kenilworth Road without a £10M (ball park figure) extensive refurbishment and rebuild of a stand. The story however is lacking detail of rules to be complied with, which stand etc so I'm unsure if its validity. 

Has been quoted in numerous media outlets, so is valid. Work includes updating media facilities including improved floodlights. Not sure if stand rebuild is mandated or would be undertaken to raise capacity. 

[chowie]

27 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

442 running a story that if Luton are promoted Prem rules would prevent them from playing at Kenilworth Road without a £10M (ball park figure) extensive refurbishment and rebuild of a stand. The story however is lacking detail of rules to be complied with, which stand etc so I'm unsure if its validity. 

That is true yes, a Luton mate told me they went through the same thing last year, so believe the planning and work to be done is all lined up waiting for the green light. Areas for the press is one thing, obvs VAR is another.

[Numero Uno]

16 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

Yeah, this. That's my only annoyance that the arrogance of the Lansdowns and the criminal incompetence of Ashton set us back so severely that even with a hugely experienced Manager who I feel is the perfect fit for our club we've been unable to progress at a decent pace.

That said, it feels like we have come out the other side of that now and we are two or three windows away from overtaking the likes of Luton, Preston etc. Just such a shame we've had such a prolonged period of cleaning up mess.

I've got a good feeling about the future though and there's a strong case to be made that cutting our cloth as we have has provided us with significant value via the academy. In the long term I can see this transitional period being looked back on as the formative moment for us.

Trouble is, it requires patience and trust. At some point our fans will, however rightly, become fatigued by the process. Its why this season it's important to make a tangible leap in performance and/or results to reenergise everyone.

I think we will do that.

Our last 3-4 seasons summed up in 10 words.......................despite Pearson and Gould shovelling up a huge amount of his shit for him good old Steve still stated that we should have done a lot better last season and been challenging Millwall, Coventry and Luton. It's not far off #Gaslogic proportions of delusion to be honest.

[Mr Popodopolous]

I think Coventry might mix it a bit based on opposition, venue etc. Range of games where they have good possession and chance creation and probably games whereby they go more direct, and ugly.

[bredwood]

4 hours ago, LoyalRed said:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-owner-to-make-decision-1701132

Bristol CITY owner Stephen Lansdown is flying in to complete the Championship strugglers’ chase for a new manager.

Lansdown is due to meet ex-Barnsley boss Mark Robins, 41, and will make a formal approach to speak with St Johnstone chief Derek McInnes, 40, in the next few days.

Another great decision by our owner. 

[Super]

Pen Sheff W

Scores 1-0

Edited May 18, 2023 by Super

[Super]

2-0

[Lanterne Rouge]

Game on!

[BanburyRed]

Anyone for 4-4 at FT and ET, Weds on pens?