slartibartfast Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, Robbored said: Absolutely right. Robins is a very classy guy and a very decent man manager. He’ll go far in the future, maybe even managing his beloved Man Utd. But I'll wager they won't get anywhere near top 6 next season . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 4 hours ago, David Brent said: I really thought Luton would be fighting to stay up in the championship. Got that wrong unfortunately. Why would a side that retained most of their players, play they lost Naismith plus added players like Morris and others that fit the setup and then playoffs with top half before fall into a relegation scrap? Plus a defined system, tricky away game etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, RedM said: I said that, we took two players from them and they still got promoted Also how do Luton fit in all their fans there today into their ground! It is not uncommon, okay we are better supported but we have often taken 40k to Wembley or the Millennium. Higher than our gates especially pre redevelopment etc. New stadium might also add...Brighton went from 6-7k at Withdean in 2010-11 to 20k plus after promotion at Amex in the Championship in 2011-12! Factor of 2.5-3 overnight! Edited May 27, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Utterly depressing to be honest 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Both clubs have gone through it over recent history. I am glad that it's Luton though. The mere fact that that dump of a ground is now going to host Man City, Liverpool & Arsenal next season is quite amusing. It won't matter much though because the inflated and scandalous money that's frittered away by every Premier League club will mean nothing to their 10,500 capacity ground and will just underline how insane and money riddled football is. Good luck to them and well done Cov too, it just underlines how we've blown it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Why would a side that retained most of their players, play they lost Naismith plus added players like Morris and others that fit the setup and then playoffs with top half before fall into a relegation scrap? Plus a defined system, tricky away game etc. Not that I thought Luton would struggle but it can happen, look at huddersfield. I dont think anyone expected them to be in the top half in either of the last two seasons. More fool us! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 46 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Why would a side that retained most of their players, play they lost Naismith plus added players like Morris and others that fit the setup and then playoffs with top half before fall into a relegation scrap? Plus a defined system, tricky away game etc. Because it can happen and I thought it might Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 9 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: Yeah wasn't Robins meant to be coming to City at one point? Was interviewed - and shown the door 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, RedM said: I said that, we took two players from them and they still got promoted Also how do Luton fit in all their fans there today into their ground! We took Cornick from them & they still went up??????? Wow. Also,, please miss,, can you explain to me how would we fit 36,000 supporters into Ashton gate? (without 10,000 of them standing on the pitch) Edited May 28, 2023 by Son of Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 8 hours ago, DaveF said: We have a lot of bitter fans... I prefer Cider. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 7 hours ago, slartibartfast said: But I'll wager they won't get anywhere near top 6 next season . Depends on how Coventry strengthen over the summer. If they can recruit the right players Robins will get the best out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Much as it’s galling to see a club like Luton go past us in the league hierarchy, with their crappy ground in a crappy town, the only tiny glimmer of enjoyment I am getting from their promotion is the schadenfreude of Watford sacking Edwards, who appears to be a fairly decent bloke, and him then getting their supposedly lesser rivals promoted, while the mad Italian owners keep spinning the managerial appointment roulette wheel more desperately every season, and hopefully spaffimg away all of their parachute payments! 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 20 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: Seeing a lot of chat like this about what Coventry and Luton fans have endured. It’s true, but I can remember both of these teams playing in the top division in my lifetime (I turned 40 last week). Whereas City have done nothing but float between the second and third tier in my four decades. I think I’d rather have had the rollercoaster ride up and down the divisions than our years of nothingness. To my mind, that’s worse. Me just turning 60 years I'm lucky to have seen some success and 1st division football at Ashton gate and travelling away in the late 70s.Your time will come season 24/25 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 The nice thing about being a human is that we have the ability to feel and think multiple things at once. I'm happy for Luton. "New" teams getting up to the top division is good. It's a way to share the riches around outside of the usual clubs. It's encouraging for teams like us that Luton and others have managed it*. They are also a part of Fair Game, working for a better game. With a voice at the top table next season who knows what could maybe happen there. Simultaneously I'm annoyed that we've not been able to emulate Luton, Brentford, Brighton etc. It is frustrating to see these teams succeed ahead of us. I understand why we've struggled in the last decade, but the excuses get thinner with time. I still don't expect promotion next season, but my god do I want it! *That does not mean we are failures for not doing it. It simply shows that it is possible. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Depends on how Coventry strengthen over the summer. If they can recruit the right players Robins will get the best out of them. They are likely to lose the likes of Gyökeres and Hamer though so it's going to be a challenge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I can remember when the Premier League was starting there were loads of complaints that it would become a closed shop with the same teams participating each season. Luton are now the 51st club to play in the PL. One of those 51, Oldham, aren’t even in the league anymore. It can’t be many more before it’s our turn. Can it? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, City oz said: Me just turning 60 years I'm lucky to have seen some success and 1st division football at Ashton gate and travelling away in the late 70s.Your time will come season 24/25 Clarification Your time will come season 2124/25 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, ralphindevon said: I can remember when the Premier League was starting there were loads of complaints that it would become a closed shop with the same teams participating each season. Luton are now the 51st club to play in the PL. One of those 51, Oldham, aren’t even in the league anymore. It can’t be many more before it’s our turn. Can it? Plymouth, Preston, Millwall, Rotherham will likely get promoted before we do. I can't see it ever happening for us as sad as it sounds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 12 hours ago, bexhill reds said: Thinking more about Prem Teams used to expansive changing rooms, big pitches going to a small compact partisan ground, playing against a group of players who will very much be in their faces. This is why I think the home factor may well keep them up. Neither of use can predict the future, but the gulf between the Championship and Premier League is enormous. I’m not convinced that a small ground and an enthusiast group of players is sufficient to bridge the gulf. The Wolves, Palace and Fulham pitches are similar sizes and they’ve all difficult periods in the league with far better players. Wimbledon had success with a poor ground and good team spirit but that was over 20 years ago. A lot has changed since then and the quality of players in the Premier League has improved. For me, if you can’t manage good home form in the Championship it’s only going to get worse when you move up a level. As an aside, if a crap ground and a group of crazy supporters was a recipe for success then Bristol Rovers would be top of League 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Neither of use can predict the future, but the gulf between the Championship and Premier League is enormous. I’m not convinced that a small ground and an enthusiast group of players is sufficient to bridge the gulf. The Wolves, Palace and Fulham pitches are similar sizes and they’ve all difficult periods in the league with far better players. Wimbledon had success with a poor ground and good team spirit but that was over 20 years ago. A lot has changed since then and the quality of players in the Premier League has improved. For me, if you can’t manage good home form in the Championship it’s only going to get worse when you move up a level. As an aside, if a crap ground and a group of crazy supporters was a recipe for success then Bristol Rovers would be top of League 1 Fair points, and against the top 6 or 7 I’d agree as their gulf in class should be able to comfortably manage what Luton bring to the table, the rest of the mediocrity that makes up the Prem might be slightly different. Arguably the Prem is now 3 mini leagues, Champions League and Title, European qualification, and not go down. Luton will clearly be in the latter, and if they’re competitive in that mini-league then they’ve got half a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I cannot congratulate Luton. Or Coventry if they had won. I find it embarrassing and if I'm honest a little bitter. It wasnt that long ago Luton were in the Conference. 5 bloody years! Then you had Coventry. Slowly going down the leagues, ending up in League 2 and often homeless. Both make our outfit look like amateurs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, Keepers Ball said: I cannot congratulate Luton. Or Coventry if they had won. I find it embarrassing and if I'm honest a little bitter. It wasnt that long ago Luton were in the Conference. 5 bloody years! Then you had Coventry. Slowly going down the leagues, ending up in League 2 and often homeless. Both make our outfit look like amateurs Bolton & Portsmouth will be next. From bankruptcy to the Prem while we remain in tier 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Yes, as a BCFC supporter of over 60 years now, I really believe that it will take an absolute miracle for us to have the MINDSET in our DNA to get to the Premiership. If I could really pinpoint why we never look like candidates, I would be in demand by every Lg1 and 2 clubs! I can remember not so long ago, going to watch Bournemouth play at Plainmoor v Torquay and really thinking ' they wont be going anywhere soon' How wrong I was. Sadly, I have resigned myself at 73 next birthday to never seeing our beloved club being in the top flight, being constantly talked about on TV and being on the lips of the locals in the pub where I drink, instead of the usual culprits. I leave it to my much younger cousins @CyderInACan and @SuperDziek to follow our family hopes when I depart this mortal coil ( hopefully in about 25 years !!!!!) and pass the misery to them. Anyway, must go as working on a time machine, my only bl**dy hope 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 44 minutes ago, BigTone said: Clarification Your time will come season 2124/25 Haha season 2024 - 2025. Next season the play offs but the season after automatic promotion. Well, that's what I dreamed about last night any way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said: Yes, as a BCFC supporter of over 60 years now, I really believe that it will take an absolute miracle for us to have the MINDSET in our DNA to get to the Premiership. If I could really pinpoint why we never look like candidates, I would be in demand by every Lg1 and 2 clubs! I can remember not so long ago, going to watch Bournemouth play at Plainmoor v Torquay and really thinking ' they wont be going anywhere soon' How wrong I was. Sadly, I have resigned myself at 73 next birthday to never seeing our beloved club being in the top flight, being constantly talked about on TV and being on the lips of the locals in the pub where I drink, instead of the usual culprits. I leave it to my much younger cousins @CyderInACan and @SuperDziek to follow our family hopes when I depart this mortal coil ( hopefully in about 25 years !!!!!) and pass the misery to them. Anyway, must go as working on a time machine, my only bl**dy hope I wish you well as I see you watching out great club in the Prem in the not-too-distant future. Keep your chin up mate and be happy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Keepers Ball said: I cannot congratulate Luton. Or Coventry if they had won. I find it embarrassing and if I'm honest a little bitter. It wasnt that long ago Luton were in the Conference. 5 bloody years! Then you had Coventry. Slowly going down the leagues, ending up in League 2 and often homeless. Both make our outfit look like amateurs Unfortunately we have an amateur owning our football club. With him in charge we will never get promoted. I didn’t mean to come across so bloody miserable The suns shining, its bank holiday weekend and the drinks are flowing. Life is good. Enjoy all! Edited May 28, 2023 by Jose 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 We will need a flash-in-the-pan season like we nearly had in 07/08 to get promoted, I don’t think we can build a sustained push for promotion over multiple seasons as our best talent will get poached. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said: Yes, as a BCFC supporter of over 60 years now, I really believe that it will take an absolute miracle for us to have the MINDSET in our DNA to get to the Premiership. If I could really pinpoint why we never look like candidates, I would be in demand by every Lg1 and 2 clubs! I can remember not so long ago, going to watch Bournemouth play at Plainmoor v Torquay and really thinking ' they wont be going anywhere soon' How wrong I was. Sadly, I have resigned myself at 73 next birthday to never seeing our beloved club being in the top flight, being constantly talked about on TV and being on the lips of the locals in the pub where I drink, instead of the usual culprits. I leave it to my much younger cousins @CyderInACan and @SuperDziek to follow our family hopes when I depart this mortal coil ( hopefully in about 25 years !!!!!) and pass the misery to them. Anyway, must go as working on a time machine, my only bl**dy hope Don't sweat it, OSR. Despite the lower finishes, I reckon we're a better equipped club to make a push for this than during the LJ years and are building a better "base" for future success than we did under his dad. It needs the pieces to fall into place, a bit of luck, and careful management - given the profligate money management of the previous regime. As for mindset, Pearson achieved one play-off final and then a promotion to the PL for Leicester. His mindset is on winning as many games as possible, and I think TBH that is the mindset of the players that are here. Varying degrees of talent of course, but no shirkers, none playing like they'd rather be somewhere else. We've had plenty of that in the past. We're in our most protracted spell in the second tier in our history and have significantly improved our infrastructure and youth programme. If I were to make a prediction, your shuffling off will come long after we've made that breakthrough. Just hope your faculties are still with you to enjoy the games at that level! 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I genuinely don't know why any City fan would wish Luton well. It was bad enough with Blackpool in 2010, then Bournemouth, then Brentford but Luton going to the Prem before us really is a bitter pill to swallow. In the global sphere of Football today, where new generations of football fans are being born by the minute everything that happened pre 1992 is becoming more irrelevant, sadly. Unfortunately the clubs who are a Premier League club and clubs who are 'Former Premier League' clubs are the ones who are seen as relevant in the mainstream media and global football community. Everything else is irrelevant. We will always be seen as small time by the casual fan until we one day make the Premier League. It's sad but true 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 If I'm honest I'm not sure that I would really want the Premiership and all the bull**** that goes with it, imagine the scramble for tickets week after week. BUT that said I would like to experience it, just once (or twice) to say we have done it, not being on the list of teams who never have. I think in the past we have accepted that our ground needed to be developed, our training facillities needed to be improved, we needed investment, a bigger fan base etc. Luton (fair play) have blown all that out of the water. OK we are still clearing up after Ashton, but how much longer can he linger over us? Surely most of his damage has been rectified, if not why not? We have had to deal with Covid issues too, as did all other clubs. We have had a manager in place who is largely stable and is experienced. We had one of the most talented players, who will command a large fee and be in demand, at our disposal, as well as other talented players. OK we had injuries, sorry to go on about Luton, but they lost a key player yesterday too. I don't know but I would think other teams also struggled with injuries and have had more upheaval to deal with than us. At one stage Coventry were so far behind playing games and almost had a points deduction due to their pitch. I really don't think people will be as patient from now on. We have sold a lot of ST so the support and expectation is there. But what haven't we got in place to sustain a realistic push? And yes I realise there are all the other teams trying to do the same, but it is now proven you don't need big gates, facillities, and star players to succeed. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 A penny for Harry Cornick's thoughts this morning. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) Just now, Merrick's Marvels said: A penny for Harry Cornick's thoughts this morning. I’m sure he’s fine……likely to be earning more with us than he would with Luton (even in the Prem) - wasn’t a starter for Luton before he joined us and so would not have been a starter for them in the Prem…. Edited May 28, 2023 by Loosey Boy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Son of Fred said: Was interviewed - and shown the door Tells you everything you need to know about why we are where we are and why we are who we are. It's been this way forever - consistently poor decision-making by the suits since, I dunno, about 1909 actually. As alluded to in this thread already by @oldstandrobin - there's just something about our DNA... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: I’m sure he’s fine…… I hope you're right. At least he can console himself with the fact he doesn't play for a pub team anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 In the past I have disliked Luton, particularly during the times that the thatcherite MP David Evans was chairman, the ban on away fans following the punch up with Millwall, and that awful plastic pitch. No one can really enjoy going to Kenilworth Road, the most uncomfortable ground in the EFL, actually worse than the glamp site in Horfield. I cannot however show any ill will to their promotion. Despite changes to their back line following the sales of Naismith to us and James Bree to Southampton they remained solid defensively and gained promotion on merit. Outside of the top 2 they were simply the best of the rest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 41 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: I’m sure he’s fine……likely to be earning more with us than he would with Luton (even in the Prem) - wasn’t a starter for Luton before he joined us and so would not have been a starter for them in the Prem…. He wasn’t a starter and one has to say, he is not yet a finisher, neither 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, RedM said: If I'm honest I'm not sure that I would really want the Premiership and all the bull**** that goes with it, imagine the scramble for tickets week after week. Probably some old codgers saying the same in May/June '76 (not saying you're an old Kodjia mind, RedM) but those four years, there's old codgers on here now often getting misty eyed about that time. We need and are due another momentous (for us)/ epic era/season, to give today's young 'uns/tomorrow's old codgers something memorable to get misty-eyed about in 43 years time (Nige's epic FFP heroics and wage stripping not quite the stuff of football glory). Anyhow, once they'd had a little look in 76 and 77, the great Bristolian/West Country public decided that was quite enough and they settled back in their armchairs and followed events via the wireless and the teleprinter on Grandstand. And the Green Un. And another thing, it'll only be one season this time not four, in the unlikely event of us scaling such heights. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Keepers Ball said: I cannot congratulate Luton. Or Coventry if they had won. I find it embarrassing and if I'm honest a little bitter. It wasnt that long ago Luton were in the Conference. 5 bloody years! Then you had Coventry. Slowly going down the leagues, ending up in League 2 and often homeless. Both make our outfit look like amateurs What he said. It's a disgrace and shameful that the likes of them have sailed past us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Keepers Ball said: I cannot congratulate Luton. Or Coventry if they had won. I find it embarrassing and if I'm honest a little bitter. It wasnt that long ago Luton were in the Conference. 5 bloody years! Then you had Coventry. Slowly going down the leagues, ending up in League 2 and often homeless. Both make our outfit look like amateurs Alternatively, they have faced adversity and responded whereas our club has been too comfortable 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Keepers Ball said: I cannot congratulate Luton. Or Coventry if they had won. I find it embarrassing and if I'm honest a little bitter. It wasnt that long ago Luton were in the Conference. 5 bloody years! Then you had Coventry. Slowly going down the leagues, ending up in League 2 and often homeless. Both make our outfit look like amateurs You wonder what hardships they would've had to endure or how many points they would have had to have had deducted, or how low in the pyramid they would have had to sunk, or how frickin awful their ground would've had to have been, for Steve Lansdown to have steered this club into the PL before Luton bleedin Town. Given the head-start he had on them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Keepers Ball said: I cannot congratulate Luton. Or Coventry if they had won. I find it embarrassing and if I'm honest a little bitter. It wasnt that long ago Luton were in the Conference. 5 bloody years! Then you had Coventry. Slowly going down the leagues, ending up in League 2 and often homeless. Both make our outfit look like amateurs You can be bitter but that's football. They've recruited better, they've found a style that works and honed in on it, they've earned the points and the promotion. I know a lot of people here dislike Luton but I look at them as a great example of how getting everything right at the right time can help a club overachieve. We need to overachieve in order to get to the Prem, we may have a good ground, good training etc but ultimately we're not a big fish in this pond and if a shock result happens later we'll have Everton in this league too. The entitlement is the real issue with our fans, we have a huge City and yet there are smaller places with higher attendances, better structure etc The club needs to be better, it's going in the right direction atm but it's still got a way to go imo. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Spike said: You can be bitter but that's football. They've recruited better, they've found a style that works and honed in on it, they've earned the points and the promotion. I know a lot of people here dislike Luton but I look at them as a great example of how getting everything right at the right time can help a club overachieve. We need to overachieve in order to get to the Prem, we may have a good ground, good training etc but ultimately we're not a big fish in this pond and if a shock result happens later we'll have Everton in this league too. The entitlement is the real issue with our fans, we have a huge City and yet there are smaller places with higher attendances, better structure etc The club needs to be better, it's going in the right direction atm but it's still got a way to go imo. I don't think you can knock our attendances at all. Top third in the division on the back of no success, ever. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 3 hours ago, oldstandrobin said: Yes, as a BCFC supporter of over 60 years now, I really believe that it will take an absolute miracle for us to have the MINDSET in our DNA to get to the Premiership. If I could really pinpoint why we never look like candidates, I would be in demand by every Lg1 and 2 clubs! I can remember not so long ago, going to watch Bournemouth play at Plainmoor v Torquay and really thinking ' they wont be going anywhere soon' How wrong I was. Sadly, I have resigned myself at 73 next birthday to never seeing our beloved club being in the top flight, being constantly talked about on TV and being on the lips of the locals in the pub where I drink, instead of the usual culprits. I leave it to my much younger cousins @CyderInACan and @SuperDziek to follow our family hopes when I depart this mortal coil ( hopefully in about 25 years !!!!!) and pass the misery to them. Anyway, must go as working on a time machine, my only bl**dy hope Brother you ain't dead yet, there's always hope, chin up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) I can think of one set of fans who probably feel even more frustrated than us today; namely Bradford City. A similar size club to us with decent support. They have spent the last 18 years bobbing up and down between L1 & L2; and having just lost in the play offs to Carlisle, find themselves still in L2 for next season. They must have seen Luton go down past them, and then go past them again in the other direction, and now find themselves in the PL. That said Bradford, unlike us, have had a (brief) stint in the PL. Edited May 28, 2023 by The Gasbuster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said: You wonder what hardships they would've had to endure or how many points they would have had to have had deducted, or how low in the pyramid they would have had to sunk, or how frickin awful their ground would've had to have been, for Steve Lansdown to have steered this club into the PL before Luton bleedin Town. Given the head-start he had on them. You could argue that he has put the infrastructure in place first whereas Luton Town will not be in a position to fully benefit financially. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 More extra time entertainment coming up today (Carlisle v Stockport). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Just now, eardun said: More extra time entertainment coming up today (Carlisle v Stockport). Good game after the Subs came on for Carlisle. I hope they do it now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said: You wonder what hardships they would've had to endure or how many points they would have had to have had deducted, or how low in the pyramid they would have had to sunk, or how frickin awful their ground would've had to have been, for Steve Lansdown to have steered this club into the PL before Luton bleedin Town. Given the head-start he had on them. Didn't he join the board in '96 when Luton finished 2 places above us in the division 1 playoffs, having only dropped out of the top division a few years before? In the ten years before that they'd won the league cup and got to the final and spent most of it on the top division. What head start did we have on them exactly...? I'm not sure then dropping to the bottom division and coming back up is a feat of remarkable ownership/stewardship, you could look at it both ways. Lansdown has wasted a fortune just for moving our home up a single division in twenty years or so but I don't think some of these are great comparisons. Personally I think luck and momentum are hugely undervalued - were we well run in 2008? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Good game after the Subs came on for Carlisle. I hope they do it now. Same here. I’d like Paul Simpson to do it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I didn't realise that Lemmonheigh-Evans had gone to Stockport. He could be in line to take a penalty here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Lemonheigh Evans playing for Stockport, formerly of this parish I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Nice one Connor Evans, used to love watching him play for Torquay, decent player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 That Moxon pen was a beauty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Fair play Carlisle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Can I be first to congratulate Carlisle for beating Rovers next season 2 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Well done simmo... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: You could argue that he has put the infrastructure in place first whereas Luton Town will not be in a position to fully benefit financially. We are certainly ready to extract from supporters and local businesses as much money as we could possibly hope to, should we ever be hosting Pep, Klopp, Harry Kane and all. We can definitely applaud Steve for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 punk Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 well done paul simpson 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 So, according to the commentator, the League One list is now complete. Barnsley & Wednesday must have decided who won their game already and aren`t bothering tomorrow. Happy for Paul Simpson, he deserves it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) Well done Carlisle. Simpson went for it with the attacking substitutions and it paid off. Two penalty shoot outs so far and the wining team has delivered perfect penalty conversion of 6 (Luton) and 5 (Carlisle) respectively. I wonder why dodgy Risdale was at the game? Edited May 28, 2023 by RoystonFoote'snephew Added content Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) Delighted for Paul Simpson, must be some feeling to get your home town team promoted. Nice local trip for those jokers over the river, too. Edited May 28, 2023 by GrahamC 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) I'm pleased that Carlisle have won. They've been in the doldrums for too long. Well done Paul Simpson Edited May 28, 2023 by cidered abroad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, IAmNick said: Didn't he join the board in '96 when Luton finished 2 places above us in the division 1 playoffs, having only dropped out of the top division a few years before? In the ten years before that they'd won the league cup and got to the final and spent most of it on the top division. What head start did we have on them exactly...? I'm not sure then dropping to the bottom division and coming back up is a feat of remarkable ownership/stewardship, you could look at it both ways. Lansdown has wasted a fortune just for moving our home up a single division in twenty years or so but I don't think some of these are great comparisons. Personally I think luck and momentum are hugely undervalued - were we well run in 2008? Reckon we will be "lucky" when we do, and get, enough other stuff right first. We must do our bit first. Make our own luck, if you will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I make that just one save in 22 penalties taken so far, plus one miss. As a country are we getting better at pens? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, 77 punk said: well done paul simpson Unlucky his boy (something to do with Stockport, I think?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Congratulations to Paul Simpson, always seemed like a nice bloke 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Paul Simpson has done a fantastic job taking over from the frankly poor Keith Millen. Congratulations to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, David Brent said: Paul Simpson has done a fantastic job taking over from the frankly poor Keith Millen. Congratulations to him. Keith Curle, Clive Middlemass and of course our very own Nige make up 5 Carlisle managers with City connections. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Did Carlisle have the lucky sunshine end ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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