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1 hour ago, Port Said Red said:

I agree. I was thinking yesterday that if someone said to you "we can sign a versatile, two footed, experienced pro, who has 3 promotions under his belt" You would be interested. If you then said "He has premiership experience and scored two goals in a play offs final and he is still under 30" you would be very keen. 

Take the name and his connection to the club out of the equation and it's a no-brainer.

add to that a known proven asset to the community who cares about others

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2 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

There's no way that Bryan is in it for the money. When he played for Fulham he lived in a nice-but-not-super-top-end 2-bed flat in Fulham and had his mate lodging with him. He seems to now indulge in the odd supercar here and there but that comes across as a genuine hobby rather than doing it for the sake of showing off. A far cry from a flash footballer.

He'd probably make the squad stronger, would be a good age, and he'd be happy living back home I'm sure.

If the finances fit then I see no reason not to sign him.

Agree with every word.

My only other slight concern is where do we see him playing.

As yesterday showed Pring is probably in our top three performers & once Scott leaves will arguably rival Conway as our biggest asset.

Left back is nailed down then & as everyone seems to believe the Wimbledon kid is a done deal as his cover, we don’t need (or can afford) 3 in the squad.

Bryan can play elsewhere but our current formation really doesn’t lend itself to him playing in front of Pring, he could play centre mid alongside James & I’m sure he would do well, but that’s not somewhere that he’s played a lot in his career.

If this is true there has to be a plan but just like McCrorie, it isn’t immediately obvious.

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14 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Agree with every word.

My only other slight concern is where do we see him playing.

As yesterday showed Pring is probably in our top three performers & once Scott leaves will arguably rival Conway as our biggest asset.

Left back is nailed down then & as everyone seems to believe the Wimbledon kid is a done deal as his cover, we don’t need (or can afford) 3 in the squad.

Bryan can play elsewhere but our current formation really doesn’t lend itself to him playing in front of Pring, he could play centre mid alongside James & I’m sure he would do well, but that’s not somewhere that he’s played a lot in his career.

If this is true there has to be a plan but just like McCrorie, it isn’t immediately obvious.

I can see him playing as a left sided DM for us. He has all the attributes to do so. Imo, he's better in that position than a LB. And when watching him I always saw him as a left sided midfielder. His strengths in his game equate to that. 

Check out his stats over the seasons. And the comments on his strengths as a player in the link. Scroll down. 

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/134331/Show/Joe-Bryan

 

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3 minutes ago, spudski said:

I can see him playing as a left sided DM for us. He has all the attributes to do so. Imo, he's better in that position than a LB. And when watching him I always saw him as a left sided midfielder. His strengths in his game equate to that. 

Check out his stats over the seasons. And the comments on his strengths as a player in the link. Scroll down. 

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/134331/Show/Joe-Bryan

 

I agree. I always thought we never saw enough of him in midfield. On the odd occasions he played there he did very well. Are his legs still up to bombing down the wing all game any more too?

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1 minute ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

I agree. I always thought we never saw enough of him in midfield. On the odd occasions he played there he did very well. Are his legs still up to bombing down the wing all game any more too?

I agree. I think he's one of those players with a ' natural' fitness. However his strengths as a DM and offensive attributes could suit us imo. 

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3 minutes ago, spudski said:

I agree. I think he's one of those players with a ' natural' fitness. However his strengths as a DM and offensive attributes could suit us imo. 

Joe an Matty James in midfield would be good to see I think, a nice mix of defensive minded and attacking instinct. I never really enjoyed Joe as a LB if I`m honest - he backed off far too much IMO and let attackers push him too far back towards the box.

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12 minutes ago, spudski said:

I can see him playing as a left sided DM for us. He has all the attributes to do so. Imo, he's better in that position than a LB. And when watching him I always saw him as a left sided midfielder. His strengths in his game equate to that. 

Check out his stats over the seasons. And the comments on his strengths as a player in the link. Scroll down. 

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/134331/Show/Joe-Bryan

 

Me too, unless someone has offered us a fortune for Pring, it doesn’t make sense otherwise.

Joe is both academically & in a football sense far smarter than average but still an intriguing potential positional change for him.

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35 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Agree with every word.

My only other slight concern is where do we see him playing.

As yesterday showed Pring is probably in our top three performers & once Scott leaves will arguably rival Conway as our biggest asset.

Left back is nailed down then & as everyone seems to believe the Wimbledon kid is a done deal as his cover, we don’t need (or can afford) 3 in the squad.

Bryan can play elsewhere but our current formation really doesn’t lend itself to him playing in front of Pring, he could play centre mid alongside James & I’m sure he would do well, but that’s not somewhere that he’s played a lot in his career.

If this is true there has to be a plan but just like McCrorie, it isn’t immediately obvious.

Judging by @Davefevs observations yesterday, the left side of a diamond? 

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6 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Me too, unless someone has offered us a fortune for Pring, it doesn’t make sense otherwise.

Joe is both academically & in a football sense far smarter than average but still an intriguing potential positional change for him.

He has played in this position. In fact his strengths and stat rating is better as a DM than LB. 

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26 minutes ago, spudski said:

I can see him playing as a left sided DM for us. He has all the attributes to do so. Imo, he's better in that position than a LB. And when watching him I always saw him as a left sided midfielder. His strengths in his game equate to that. 

Check out his stats over the seasons. And the comments on his strengths as a player in the link. Scroll down. 

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/134331/Show/Joe-Bryan

 

This is what I think, basically playing the role King is now. But can cover the left sided positions too, if needed.

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5 hours ago, robinforlife2 said:

He's like the Neil Warnock of the forum. You feel a certain urge to have a dig at the Rovers Bus Driver, but deep down, he is a character who many actually like and enjoy reading his comments. 

Robbored is not all bad but simply posts too much, often with nothing to say beyond Stating the Bleeding Obvious  as if it was the wisdom of the ancients.

By the way, is it meant to be Robbo Red or Rob Bored? I’ve never been sure.

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1 hour ago, Leveller said:

Robbored is not all bad but simply posts too much, often with nothing to say beyond Stating the Bleeding Obvious  as if it was the wisdom of the ancients.

I’m quite aware of that Leveller. I post the bleeding obvious for the benefit of some posters that can’t see the woods for the trees. 

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2 hours ago, Leveller said:

Robbored is not all bad but simply posts too much, often with nothing to say beyond Stating the Bleeding Obvious  as if it was the wisdom of the ancients.

By the way, is it meant to be Robbo Red or Rob Bored? I’ve never been sure.

I believe it is Robb O'Red.

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On the face of it, signing Joe makes little sense if you think of him purely as a LB.  However, as others have said the DM role could make perfect sense, as well us give us more natural options (either in game or relative to opposition) such as Cam playing CB if required, as he's done pretty well when called upon to do so, and Joe slotting in LB.  Also it could allow for a back 3 with Cam or Joe equally comfortable in either the left sided defenders slot or the wing back role or even in front of one another in a 442 or 451 or 433.  

It's actually a very versatile looking signing (not going to use any club in bag based analogies) 

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11 minutes ago, Midred said:

Didn't Joe play left wing and then making him a left back became an LJ project?

First time I watched him in 13/14 he played LM, then Cotts made him LWB.  Then LJ played him LB, then LM/W, then LB.  He played a few games CM under LJ too.

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6 minutes ago, Buster Footman's T shirt said:

Pring and Bryan on the left. Looks very well balanced. Not sure we will have had a natural balance like that since Bell (senior) and Tinnion. That didn't turn out too badly 

 

Mccorie & Sykes on the right. I will look forward to next season if the rumours are true. 

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8 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

This is what I think, basically playing the role King is now. But can cover the left sided positions too, if needed.

I see it slightly differently, mate. I could easily see Bryan slotting in ahead of Pring with Mehmeti and Weimann battling for the 10 slot in a 4-2-3-1. Plus, he offers cover in CM, LB and LWB if we switch to a system with wing-backs. Either way, would be a good addition IMO.

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6 minutes ago, tin said:

I see it slightly differently, mate. I could easily see Bryan slotting in ahead of Pring with Mehmeti and Weimann battling for the 10 slot in a 4-2-3-1. Plus, he offers cover in CM, LB and LWB if we switch to a system with wing-backs. Either way, would be a good addition IMO.

He could cover LF, but I don't think it's a position he's played much in his career?

Agree on Weimann best as a 10. Mehmeti though - my Wycombe mates say he's best as LF in that forward three. 

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13 minutes ago, Searles said:

Still don’t see it. We have signed Mehmeti to play LW and he can alternate with Bell…..we have Pring as a first choice left back who is progressing nicely. He doesn’t fit the profile that we want. 

Have we though?
He has played LW and 10, could be an early Alex Scott replacement!

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Imo, and I’d assume others, one of joeys best games was against Man Utd. Looked just as good as the prem opposition. Obviously he started LM that game in a flat 4-4-2 but if you watch a YouTube video on “the coaches voices” channel where LJ explains his tactics he specifically mentions that both LM and RM on that game we’re given specific jobs to press man utds fullbacks high, which is one of the reasons he kept pushing after winning the ball when he scored. 
Having him in front of pring competing with a younger bell and allowing mehmeti to play/compete with andi for the .10 works i think. That’s only if we use the same formation next season.

 

I would take him in a heartbeat on the right money. And about NP not going back to old players he did it with both king and James so don’t think he’s got too much of a problem with it. If it suits him it suits him. 

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44 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

That’s what I’ve read. Surely we wouldn’t be looking to pay anyone any more than 15k max?

Would be reasonable wage when propped by a chunky signing fee to balance the deal as OOC

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1 hour ago, Jeez said:

Would be reasonable wage when propped by a chunky signing fee to balance the deal as OOC

That's the way it would be structured probably, keeps his agent happy too. It would still work out a lot cheaper than if we went out and bought a player of his level.

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For me it actually makes a lot of sense. 

Nige has shown before that he likes to have experienced pros in the squad to help set standards. This summer the dressing room is likely to lose JD, Kalas and maybe King. So that experience needs to be replaced.

Whilst Nige hasn't worked with JB before, Tinnion probably has. I'd imagine that Tinnion has a very good relationship with Joe and his family.

If you're looking to add experience to the squad and sign a player you can rely upon then Joe ticks all those boxes, especially with his connections to us. It's a no brainer really. 

Lots have been said this season about our corners and free kicks and even long shots, Joe brings those attributes to the team. 

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55 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

For me it actually makes a lot of sense. 

Nige has shown before that he likes to have experienced pros in the squad to help set standards. This summer the dressing room is likely to lose JD, Kalas and maybe King. So that experience needs to be replaced.

Whilst Nige hasn't worked with JB before, Tinnion probably has. I'd imagine that Tinnion has a very good relationship with Joe and his family.

If you're looking to add experience to the squad and sign a player you can rely upon then Joe ticks all those boxes, especially with his connections to us. It's a no brainer really. 

Lots have been said this season about our corners and free kicks and even long shots, Joe brings those attributes to the team. 

Couldn’t agree more.

This is a 29 year old (30 in Sept) who is a player capable of being a PL squad / cover player, so to acquire a player like this at his age is a coup imho.

I’m sure (if this happens) due diligence has been done by both sides via the likes of Tins (as you say) and Schmeichel.

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22 hours ago, Davefevs said:

First time I watched him in 13/14 he played LM, then Cotts made him LWB.  Then LJ played him LB, then LM/W, then LB.  He played a few games CM under LJ too.

I appreciate many years have passed since you first watched JB  - I shall refrain from referencing the mention of a decade as in the Trigger and Rodney brush episode - but do you recall how you rated him at the time?

Did you see him as a future first team player, even a Premier League player, or just a competent teenager?

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3 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

I appreciate many years have passed since you first watched JB  - I shall refrain from referencing the mention of a decade as in the Trigger and Rodney brush episode - but do you recall how you rated him at the time?

Did you see him as a future first team player, even a Premier League player, or just a competent teenager?

Whenever joe Bryan had a stormer, I remember it similarly to how I view AS7 now, not as technically gifted obvs. He’s one of those players who can glide with the ball at his feet, always looking up for a pass and has a killer cross on him. Would regard him as a bit of a set piece specialist as well.

 

If experienced and disciplined championship players is what we want I think he’s perfect tbh. 

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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Couldn’t agree more.

This is a 29 year old (30 in Sept) who is a player capable of being a PL squad / cover player, so to acquire a player like this at his age is a coup imho.

I’m sure (if this happens) due diligence has been done by both sides via the likes of Tins (as you say) and Schmeichel.

I've read a bit about people saying where do we fit him in, for me that doesn't matter, if he's available and wants to come back here, we find a way to fit him in! It would also ensure that if we did recieve an unexpected bid for Pring, we wouldn't be left short. 

His career has stalled a little bit so unfortunately for him I don't see another Premier league club trying to sign him so it's likely he's going to have to drop down to the Championship.

He will need to take quite a bit of a pay cut tho. But I don't see that as too much of an issue as I don't think he'll have many suitors in the Championship that would pay more than us. 

I hope that he will feel entinced by the project here and the improvements the club has made since he was last here. He should now be in the prime of his career but he needs to get his career back on track. 

Personally I think he is very well suited to being a Nigel Pearson type player. He's very much in the Andy King/Matty James mould. I think he would very quickly become one of Nigel's trusted players. 

Usually I'm against signing former players but this has a Louis Carey type of feel to it. 

Thats a good shout about Pearson sounding out Schmeichels thoughts on JB. 

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2 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

I appreciate many years have passed since you first watched JB  - I shall refrain from referencing the mention of a decade as in the Trigger and Rodney brush episode - but do you recall how you rated him at the time?

Did you see him as a future first team player, even a Premier League player, or just a competent teenager?

My answer to your question is that I saw his debut against Leicester when McInnes put him in the team not long after his arrival as manager. I was very impressed how Joe dealt with such a big jump into Championship standard. And while at times in his career here, he seemed to be in a dream, I consider that if we signed another player of his standard and age for a sensible salary and no transfer fee (signing on fee maybe) we'd all be delighted.

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2 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

I appreciate many years have passed since you first watched JB  - I shall refrain from referencing the mention of a decade as in the Trigger and Rodney brush episode - but do you recall how you rated him at the time?

Did you see him as a future first team player, even a Premier League player, or just a competent teenager?

First time I saw him was Rovers game in which he scored…but didn’t take too much notice of his play other than the goal.

SOD sacked, Cotts in, and he didn’t play much that first season, but I recall the televised cup game v Tamworth and I saw a tenacious youngster which was promising.

Obviously 14/15 at LWB he was fantastic.

Then 15/16, started the season ok (at a level up) but remember him getting whacked by Darickwa (Burnley) and he had a period in and out of the team.  Williams played LWB over him.  But he started regularly under LJ, and the rest is history.

Cracking player imho.

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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Cracking player imho.

He's also a lot fitter and stronger than when he was with us. He has what Nigel calls Premier League fitness, which makes this rumour even more plausible.

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Exciting one personally for this, signed up here as the Joe Bryan Fan Club (JBFC) so my 15 year old self would be incredibly excited at the prospect of us signing him again!

Remember vividly one of his earliest games v Palace in the cup, being a QEH pupil I’d made a flag with a fellow City fan/classmate which we held out pre match on the touch line. Scotty spotted it and told Joe who came trotting over for photos and autographs, genuinely lovely bloke and made two young City fans very happy!

This one makes sense for a lot of reasons, hopefully he makes his return here

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28 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

The sound of the ball hitting the net is perfection.

I didn’t celebrate really, just stood there in silence….we’d gone 1-0 up versus Man Utd with a perfectly struck shot.

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On 01/05/2023 at 07:49, Engvall’s Splinter said:

Would have thought it would be a hell of a pay cut to fit within our wage structure. If it can be done though then I’d be keen. 

From 30th June his wages are £0. Has only played 7 times this season. I we are offering a 2/3 year deal on £10 / 15 k per week and the chance to come home then that must be tempting.

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Just now, Sir Geoff said:

From 30th June his wages are £0. Has only played 7 times this season. I we are offering a 2/3 year deal on £10 / 15 k per week and the chance to come home then that must be tempting.

My view too.  We won’t be breaking our wage structure…so if he comes, it’s because he fits into it.

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19 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

From 30th June his wages are £0. Has only played 7 times this season. I we are offering a 2/3 year deal on £10 / 15 k per week and the chance to come home then that must be tempting.

I can't really see him going anywhere else where he's likely to earn more than he would here. There is also the added benefit of being back in Bristol near his family etc.

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1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I can't really see him going anywhere else where he's likely to earn more than he would here. There is also the added benefit of being back in Bristol near his family etc.

No brainer, from his point of view. His (footballing) stock isn't particularly high at present (struggled to get into Fulham's side for a year or two then 7 games in Nice), so Championship is probably his best bet.

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17 hours ago, chinapig said:

He's also a lot fitter and stronger than when he was with us. He has what Nigel calls Premier League fitness, which makes this rumour even more plausible.

Hasn’t he been injured for a large chunk of the last 18 months? And barely played this season in France. That said he was always a great athlete so after a full pre season would hopefully be firing on all cylinders. 

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42 minutes ago, BITW said:

Hasn’t he been injured for a large chunk of the last 18 months? And barely played this season in France. That said he was always a great athlete so after a full pre season would hopefully be firing on all cylinders. 

Check out his Instagram, looks like a different person compared to when he played for us.

 

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IF he's coming back to play and is driven to do something for his home town club, then yes, we would be daft not to look into him returning BUT, if he's coming home to run his career down, no thanks, we've been there too many times over the years.

All about gaging his 'hunger' before we commit, in my very humble opinion.

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People talking about him coming to play central midfield because LJ tried him out there a couple of times and because we have Pring. 1+1=3.

He’s a left back/ left wing back/ left midfielder. End of.

If he’s returning (and it’s a big if) it will be to come in and compete with Pring (replacing Dasilva). Can’t see us signing two left backs though.

Soooo, are we back in for Currie or going for Bryan? It will be one or the other though.

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10 hours ago, B-Rizzle said:

People talking about him coming to play central midfield because LJ tried him out there a couple of times and because we have Pring. 1+1=3.

He’s a left back/ left wing back/ left midfielder. End of.

If he’s returning (and it’s a big if) it will be to come in and compete with Pring (replacing Dasilva). Can’t see us signing two left backs though.

Soooo, are we back in for Currie or going for Bryan? It will be one or the other though.

What if we're bringing in Bryan to play left midfield? That then leaves space to also bring in Currie. 

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So now you’re gonna believe us

So now you’re gonna believe us

So now you’re gonna beliiiiiiiieve ussssssss

Joe Bryan’s coming back

 

(well maybe)

In all seriousness, if this is true and the other rumoured clubs are true, I wouldn’t see him choosing the others over us.

 

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5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

So now you’re gonna believe us

So now you’re gonna believe us

So now you’re gonna beliiiiiiiieve ussssssss

Joe Bryan’s coming back

 

(well maybe)

In all seriousness, if this is true and the other rumoured clubs are true, I wouldn’t see him choosing the others over us.

 

Yeah it’s worth noting that Swansea have struggled to agree terms with their OOC players despite wanting to keep so that blows the “wages” argument out if they’re in the mix. I don’t see Joe choosing Cardiff, Swansea, Millwall, Stoke or Blackburn over us. How much the post know mind is always up to debate

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17 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

So now you’re gonna believe us

So now you’re gonna believe us

So now you’re gonna beliiiiiiiieve ussssssss

Joe Bryan’s coming back

 

(well maybe)

In all seriousness, if this is true and the other rumoured clubs are true, I wouldn’t see him choosing the others over us.

 

If he does, it would be about ££ and we would be better off leaving it plus he will probably get better money elsewhere. If he signs for us, happy days.

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