Joe Bryan - Signed for Millwall

[Major Isewater]

3 hours ago, Andy082005 said:

Now there’s a player who promised so much and never quite hit the heights we all thought he could. If I remember rightly, got injured away at Plymouth when in red hot form - and never came back the same (although to be fair - my memory may be a little hazy)

If I recall correctly, he signed for Swindon and had a pretty decent career with them. 

Edited May 13, 2023 by Major Isewater

[Andy082005]

44 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

If I recall correctly, he signed for Swindon and had a pretty decent career with them. 

Anyone who carves out a career in professional football has a good career to be fair - I didn’t mean to sound harsh 

I can remember when he first come through as a youngster - I fancied him to move up to a higher standard than is. He even sniffed around the England U21s 

 

[M.D]

3 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

Anyone who carves out a career in professional football has a good career to be fair - I didn’t mean to sound harsh 

I can remember when he first come through as a youngster - I fancied him to move up to a higher standard than is. He even sniffed around the England U21s 

 

I think he may of been on the bench for an England U21 match at Ashton Gate, could be wrong though.

[bpexile]

15 hours ago, alexukhc said:

And Matt Hewletts

And Stephen Lansdowns

[Major Isewater]

1 hour ago, M.D said:

I think he may of been on the bench for an England U21 match at Ashton Gate, could be wrong though.

I think that was mainly down to trying to get more local supporters through the turnstiles, no disrespect towards MH. 
The same thing happened for Chris Garland. 

[M.D]

2 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

I think that was mainly down to trying to get more local supporters through the turnstiles, no disrespect towards MH. 
The same thing happened for Chris Garland. 

Indeed, don't think he played.

[Bris Red]

I rated Bryan when he was here and it would be good business to get him back - if he is willing to take an offer that is within our wage structure..

I do feel all this talk of ‘he’s not in it for the money’ and ‘money doesn’t motivate him’ is being a bit naive from some fans though.

Irrespective of if he comes from a nice affluent middle class family or not, the guy is on big money at Fulham and i doubt he would want to take a substantial cut in wages to come here.

I may be completely wrong but i think we would have to offer him decent wedge for him to consider coming back IMO..

Edited May 13, 2023 by Bris Red

[headhunter]

1 hour ago, Percy Pig said:

I guess it's kinda contextual. Does the value of being on the doorstep of your family outweigh the potential for say Middlesborough to pay 5 to ten grand more a week than us? I'd imagine he'd still be at the top of our wage structure so it won't be cheap, but we might be a more attractive option for reasons beyond money.

Hard to know, really. I just really want it to happen.

£1.2M over 3 years taking the mid-point of the range you quote for Boro's "more a week" - I think he'd suffer the pain of living on Teeside!

[Port Said Red]

16 minutes ago, headhunter said:

£1.2M over 3 years taking the mid-point of the range you quote for Boro's "more a week" - I think he'd suffer the pain of living on Teeside!

He's probably already made a lot more than that over the last 5 years, he knows it's better to be happy, he'll be coming home I am sure.

[GrahamC]

11 minutes ago, headhunter said:

£1.2M over 3 years taking the mid-point of the range you quote for Boro's "more a week" - I think he'd suffer the pain of living on Teeside!

Not sure.

Doesn’t it also depend on many other factors?

1. Where you are on your earning cycle? So if this was your first big move & you’d been in League One/Two previously then undoubtedly that would be your judgement. When you’ve already made a small fortune from football, maybe not.

2. Where you’re from, if you were from the North then again yep, but if you’re from this part of the world then possibly not. I got offered a job in the North East recently on more money & didn’t even consider it.

3. Finally the type of person you are, Bryan is clearly not your average footballer, not too many of them went to public school, for starters, he also doesn’t strike me as a fool with money, no track record of divorce (always a great way to lose a lot of money), failed business ventures or obsessive compulsive buying, so the opportunity to still earn decent money in a lovely part of the world near to his family as he enters his 30s might well be attractive.

I’m not saying he won’t go elsewhere but don’t think it is quite so simple as just a matter of money.

[Davefevs]

10 hours ago, Bris Red said:

I rated Bryan when he was here and it would be good business to get him back - if he is willing to take an offer that is within our wage structure..

I do feel all this talk of ‘he’s not in it for the money’ and ‘money doesn’t motivate him’ is being a bit naive from some fans though.

Irrespective of if he comes from a nice affluent middle class family or not, the guy is on big money at Fulham and i doubt he would want to take a substantial cut in wages to come here.

I may be completely wrong but i think we would have to offer him decent wedge for him to consider coming back IMO..

If you’ve ever talked to him, as @GrahamC says, he’s not your typical footballer, and we all know he isn’t coming back for charity, but it’s quite possible to entertain that he might come here for less money than he might be offered elsewhere, because non-money reasons matter more.  His reason for going to Fulham wasn’t all about money, it was the challenge etc.

Put it this way, we / Nige has a wage structure in place, if we are to sign Joe Bryan it’s because he’s happy to fit inside the wage structure.  That will still be a decent wedge in the grand scheme of things.

[Port Said Red]

3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

If you’ve ever talked to him, as @GrahamC says, he’s not your typical footballer, and we all know he isn’t coming back for charity, but it’s quite possible to entertain that he might come here for less money than he might be offered elsewhere, because non-money reasons matter more.  His reason for going to Fulham wasn’t all about money, it was the challenge etc.

Put it this way, we / Nige has a wage structure in place, if we are to sign Joe Bryan it’s because he’s happy to fit inside the wage structure.  That will still be a decent wedge in the grand scheme of things.

How much would we have to pay to buy a player of his quality if he was still in contract? More than what I would presume is going to be a hefty signing on fee which will allow for the lower weekly wage.

[Lanterne Rouge]

Anyone know if he still owns property in the area or did he sell up when he moved to Fulham?

[Davefevs]

4 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

How much would we have to pay to buy a player of his quality if he was still in contract? More than what I would presume is going to be a hefty signing on fee which will allow for the lower weekly wage.

Paying a signing on fee to keep a wage within budget comes at a risk….that the player tells all the teammates that although he’s on £x thousand a week, but the club just gave him £x hundred thousand as a signing on fee and then he turns up to training in a fancy car to brag about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lee Tomlin

[Ian M]

5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Paying a signing on fee to keep a wage within budget comes at a risk….that the player tells all the teammates that although he’s on £x thousand a week, but the club just gave him £x hundred thousand as a signing on fee and then he turns up to training in a fancy car to brag about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lee Tomlin

Was the vast expanse between "it." and "Lee" meant to represent his waistline?

 

[Elruliri]

So how much would he be on? I haven't got a clue what our players are on nowadays.

[Davefevs]

4 minutes ago, Elruliri said:

So how much would he be on? I haven't got a clue what our players are on nowadays.

No idea, but I reckon our wage structure has a max of between £12k-15k p.w.

[Elruliri]

8 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

No idea, but I reckon our wage structure has a max of between £12k-15k p.w.

Jesus, if you work it out that's about £16-17k per 46 games a season. I'm off in the garden to get the little un some practice in. He can pay me back £2k a week plus housekeep

[headhunter]

45 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Not sure.

Doesn’t it also depend on many other factors?

1. Where you are on your earning cycle? So if this was your first big move & you’d been in League One/Two previously then undoubtedly that would be your judgement. When you’ve already made a small fortune from football, maybe not.

2. Where you’re from, if you were from the North then again yep, but if you’re from this part of the world then possibly not. I got offered a job in the North East recently on more money & didn’t even consider it.

3. Finally the type of person you are, Bryan is clearly not your average footballer, not too many of them went to public school, for starters, he also doesn’t strike me as a fool with money, no track record of divorce (always a great way to lose a lot of money), failed business ventures or obsessive compulsive buying, so the opportunity to still earn decent money in a lovely part of the world near to his family as he enters his 30s might well be attractive.

I’m not saying he won’t go elsewhere but don’t think it is quite so simple as just a matter of money.

All those points are valid. That said, he might also want his legacy to be that of being remembered for the 2017/18 season and the goal vs. Man Utd rather than the associated pressure of being  the prodigal son coming homes as "one of our own" to inspire us to the next level but not living up to expectation.

[handsofclay]

I haven't read all of this thread so forgive me if this has been mentioned before. However what I have digested from this is that Bryan will have to take a cut in his wages to come here.

But surely the point is he will no doubt be taking a cut in his wages wherever he ended up. Fulham are not extending his contract so no longer wish to pay him what he was on and the fact he was farmed out to Ligue 1 conveys the impression that they rather wish they hadn't been paying him what he was on for the whole of his last season too.

Bryan is 29, he is no longer at his peak in terms of earning potential. He had that at Fulham and now that time has elapsed. 

Don't get me wrong he would be a great acquisition at our level especially with the extra big match experience he has gained since he left us. And I can imagine there would be clubs at Championship level willing to pay more than our ceiling would be in terms of his wages. But I don't think it would be too much more. So I reckon it is very much a possibility that Joe Bryan will be a Bristol City player next season.

 

[cheddarwedlocker]

Seen boarding a plane on his instagram story yesterday - doubt its relevant but worth a mention.

[Agard Days Night]

1 hour ago, OliOTIB said:

Seen boarding a plane on his instagram story yesterday - doubt its relevant but worth a mention.

Any idea of the destination please ?

[petehinton]

1 hour ago, OliOTIB said:

Seen boarding a plane on his instagram story yesterday - doubt its relevant but worth a mention.

Seems to be Nice’s plane travelling to Strasbourg for them game yesterday 

[Agard Days Night]

2 hours ago, petehinton said:

Seems to be Nice’s plane travelling to Strasbourg for them game yesterday 

Sounds promising for us then COYR

[Major Isewater]

On 14/05/2023 at 11:48, Davefevs said:

Paying a signing on fee to keep a wage within budget comes at a risk….that the player tells all the teammates that although he’s on £x thousand a week, but the club just gave him £x hundred thousand as a signing on fee and then he turns up to training in a fancy car to brag about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lee Tomlin

[PHILINFRANCE]

22 hours ago, petehinton said:

Seems to be Nice’s plane travelling to Strasbourg for them game yesterday 

It's a sign, I tell thee....

Here he comes!

Here comes Joe Bryan!

 

Edited May 15, 2023 by PHILINFRANCE

[Davefevs]

23 hours ago, petehinton said:

Seems to be Nice’s plane travelling to Strasbourg for them game yesterday 

Yep, was a non-playing sub

[CodeRed]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Yep, was a non-playing sub

Is there anything about football you don't know Dave ?    

[Davefevs]

19 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

Is there anything about football you don't know Dave ?    

Google is quite easy to look up….or Transfermarkt

[CHAZ MICHAELS]

Well, it looks like we are trying everything to make him sign.

 

[Davefevs]

3 minutes ago, CHAZ MICHAELS said:

Well, it looks like we are trying everything to make him sign.

 

Signing on fee sorted then!

[Elruliri]

50 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Signing on fee sorted then!

I'd sign for the city or £50 quid, they'd probably offer me £100 not to. I am nearly 50

[Ska Junkie]

2 hours ago, CodeRed said:

Is there anything about football you don't know Dave ?    

Why people actually support Bristol rovers?

[Tangle Foot]

The only way I can possibly see us resigning JB, during this summer’s transfer window, would be if we sold Cam Pring.

If we did that the I could see us signing JB and the youngster, Jack Currie, from AFC Wimbledon.

COYR.

[Sleepy1968]

1 hour ago, CHAZ MICHAELS said:

Well, it looks like we are trying everything to make him sign.

 

Sorry Mr Bryan, your prize must be collected in person only at the opening home fixture of the 23/24 season.

[RedRaw]

1 minute ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Sorry Mr Bryan, your prize must be collected in person only at the opening home fixture of the 23/24 season.

Bring yer boots

[AshtonRobin21]

2 hours ago, CHAZ MICHAELS said:

Well, it looks like we are trying everything to make him sign.

 

Any chance a Mr Robert Reid also bought a ticket? 

[W-S-M Seagull]

I found it interesting that Geoff didn't ask about Joe. I suspect he was probably told to not ask and to me that suggests it's probably quite close. 

[Tangle Foot]

4 hours ago, Tangle Foot said:

The only way I can possibly see us resigning JB, during this summer’s transfer window, would be if we sold Cam Pring.

If we did that the I could see us signing JB and the youngster, Jack Currie, from AFC Wimbledon.

COYR.

@Agard Days Night @bcfc01 @Cov 77

What’s confusing you lot? Seems like a pretty straightforward theory.

COYR.

[David Brent]

6 hours ago, Tangle Foot said:

@Agard Days Night @bcfc01 @Cov 77

What’s confusing you lot? Seems like a pretty straightforward theory.

COYR.

The youngster is just that. Bryan is a lot more versatile than simply being an option at LB. 

We can do with both. 

[Davefevs]

8 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I found it interesting that Geoff didn't ask about Joe. I suspect he was probably told to not ask and to me that suggests it's probably quite close. 

Nor did he ask about when the Retained List was out.  I’m sure a few ground rules were set pre interview.

[Port Said Red]

12 hours ago, Tangle Foot said:

The only way I can possibly see us resigning JB, during this summer’s transfer window, would be if we sold Cam Pring.

If we did that the I could see us signing JB and the youngster, Jack Currie, from AFC Wimbledon.

COYR.

No, Joe is not coming as "just a left back" although we might use him there from to time to time. He will probably go LM, although I still hold out hopes for him being more central.

We are looking to strengthen the depth of our squad, not replace one talent with another.

[Ian M]

1 hour ago, Port Said Red said:

No, Joe is not coming as "just a left back" although we might use him there from to time to time. He will probably go LM, although I still hold out hopes for him being more central.

We are looking to strengthen the depth of our squad, not replace one talent with another.

Totally agree with this approach, with a fully fit squad we are a match for virtually any team in this division (only the top 2 did the double over us with all 4 games only having one goal in it).
 

We aren’t a club that can go out and spend millions improving on starting XI positions but we can spend smaller amounts getting a bench to feature more equal options. Then in cases of injuries or poor form we will have a best XI on more occasions than the season just gone. Considering most of our defeats were by just one goal, swing of just +4 goals scored and -4 goals conceded over the 46 games could yield up to 12 points more than 22/23 so having greater depth will make a huge difference to our finishing position imo.

 

Improvements to our first XI have to come through coaching at the HPC.

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Nor did he ask about when the Retained List was out.  I’m sure a few ground rules were set pre interview.

It's a bit of a shame GT is retiring as it seems him and Nige have really hit it off.

Absolutely 100% they had a chat pre show and Nige probably on an informal basis filled GT in but asked him not to ask about it as those players are still under contract and there season is still ongoing.

Notably GT didn't push for any details about the players we're close to signing. Not even asking what positions they play. That's quite telling.

[Simon bristol]

14 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

It's a bit of a shame GT is retiring as it seems him and Nige have really hit it off.

Absolutely 100% they had a chat pre show and Nige probably on an informal basis filled GT in but asked him not to ask about it as those players are still under contract and there season is still ongoing.

Notably GT didn't push for any details about the players we're close to signing. Not even asking what positions they play. That's quite telling.

It got a bit shaky when geoff used the  can you challenge for the play offs in your last season line, that would have led to someone being called an ostrich or something similar in years gone by!

[Tangle Foot]

3 hours ago, David Brent said:

The youngster is just that. Bryan is a lot more versatile than simply being an option at LB. 

We can do with both. 

I’m not saying I’m against us signing JB, or wanting us to sell Cam Pring, but where would that put Bell & Mehmeti, if we signed JB and Currie, whilst keeping Pring?

First world problems, :laugh:.

COYR.

[AshtonRobin21]

2 minutes ago, Tangle Foot said:

I’m not saying I’m against us signing JB, or wanting us to sell Cam Pring, but where would that put Bell & Mehmeti, if we signed JB and Currie, whilst keeping Pring?

First world problems, :laugh:.

COYR.

Strength in depth is a wonderful thing.

[cheddarwedlocker]

https://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1180288754?-1007:836:latest_news

Its real.

[W-S-M Seagull]

[David Brent]

1 hour ago, Tangle Foot said:

I’m not saying I’m against us signing JB, or wanting us to sell Cam Pring, but where would that put Bell & Mehmeti, if we signed JB and Currie, whilst keeping Pring?

First world problems, :laugh:.

COYR.

Think Joe might be being considered for a CM role

[Finley_Smith10]

Gives us the opportunity to be flexible

Can have this;

                MOL

   Vyner Naismith Pring

Tanner Mccrorie Scott Bryan

 Sykes Conway Mehmeti

Or 433

                   MOL

Tanner Vyner Naismith Pring

   Mccrorie Scott Bryan 

    Sykes Conway Mehmeti

Mccrorie can also go RB or Centre half. 
Two quality signings 

[RedEyez]

4 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said:

Gives us the opportunity to be flexible

Can have this;

                MOL

   Vyner Naismith Pring

Tanner Mccrorie Scott Bryan

 Sykes Conway Mehmeti

Or 433

                   MOL

Tanner Vyner Naismith Pring

   Mccrorie Scott Bryan 

    Sykes Conway Mehmeti

Mccrorie can also go RB or Centre half. 
Two quality signings 

Matty James.

[Finley_Smith10]

4 minutes ago, RedEyez said:

Matty James.

Was a rough team but yeah hard to leave him out. Arguably our most important player

[Super]

Bristol City set to complete signings of Joe Bryan and Ross McCrorie (footballleagueworld.co.uk)

[The hand of RO'D]

#announcejoe

[Port Said Red]

20 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said:

Gives us the opportunity to be flexible

Can have this;

                MOL

   Vyner Naismith Pring

Tanner Mccrorie Scott Bryan

 Sykes Conway Mehmeti

Or 433

                   MOL

Tanner Vyner Naismith Pring

   Mccrorie Scott Bryan 

    Sykes Conway Mehmeti

Mccrorie can also go RB or Centre half. 
Two quality signings 

I was thinking a more fluid 4 2 3 1 with Vyner and A N Other/Atkinson when fit.

McCrorie and Naismith in front of the back 4 then any combination you like from Mehmetti, Bryan, Sykes, Bell, Weimann and others in behind Conway/Wells/Cornick.

One things for sure, we will certainly be looking at a strong Bench to utilise. 

1 minute ago, The hand of RO'D said:

#announcejoe

Probably should wait for his season to finish first.

[cidered abroad]

27 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I was thinking a more fluid 4 2 3 1 with Vyner and A N Other/Atkinson when fit.

McCrorie and Naismith in front of the back 4 then any combination you like from Mehmetti, Bryan, Sykes, Bell, Weimann and others in behind Conway/Wells/Cornick.

One things for sure, we will certainly be looking at a strong Bench to utilise. 

Probably should wait for his season to finish first.

Where does our best midfielder after Scott, Matty James, go?

And Naismith in central defence so he can feed the opposition strikers, which he is prone to do?

Edited May 16, 2023 by cidered abroad

[bengalcub]

Naismith at cb is a liability good squad option due to versatility but nowhere as good as he thinks is he … set pieces also awful

[Jeez]

59 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said:

Gives us the opportunity to be flexible

Can have this;

                MOL

   Vyner Naismith Pring

Tanner Mccrorie Scott Bryan

 Sykes Conway Mehmeti

Or 433

                   MOL

Tanner Vyner Naismith Pring

   Mccrorie Scott Bryan 

    Sykes Conway Mehmeti

Mccrorie can also go RB or Centre half. 
Two quality signings 

Absolutely no point putting Scott in your starting 11 for next season - he won't be here

Got to be Matty James as 1st name on any team sheet

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

If we're going to sign Bryant shouldn't we also sign Alfie May. Between the two of them they could set the league on fire. 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

Due to budget constraints we don't tend to do "big" signings anymore and rely on one's for the future or the impressive academy.

For me, JB is a very big signing if we get him and another step closer to one of the most home grown teams in the EFL.

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

Just now, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

If we're going to sign Bryant shouldn't we also sign Alfie May. Between the two of them they could set the league on fire. 

I see what you did there. Shame it's Bryan.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

Just now, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I see what you did there. Shame it's Bryan.

I know, made a rick then made it worse. 

[Fat Cigar]

30 minutes ago, bengalcub said:

Naismith at cb is a liability good squad option due to versatility but nowhere as good as he thinks is he … set pieces also awful

He was definitely a lot better as a defensive mid, before his 2nd injury. His set pieces have been a real let down. Thought he was meant to be a dead ball specialist. We desperately need someone who deliver a corner and threaten from a free kick. 

[INCRED]

I can see JB slotting into midfield as can quite a few others such as Naismith, McCrorrie. It depends what role NP feels best suits the team & personnel he puts out on the pitch

We certainly have some strength on the left hand side of the pitch, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Mehmeti used on the right flank very much like NP used Mahrez at Leicester 

So many permutations, I just hope we continue with a back 4 as I am not sure we are as effective and attacking playing 352

 

[George Rs]

42 minutes ago, Fat Cigar said:

He was definitely a lot better as a defensive mid, before his 2nd injury. His set pieces have been a real let down. Thought he was meant to be a dead ball specialist. We desperately need someone who deliver a corner and threaten from a free kick. 

JB had a very good cross on him, think he’s got it in the locker tbf but apart from his playoff goal for Fulham can’t remember him taking free kicks.

[maxjak]

Seeing as CP Is among the best left wing backs in the league...........i am fascinated to see where Pearson will play Bryan?   Just hope it turns out to be a master stroke?

[cider-manc]

3 minutes ago, George Rs said:

JB had a very good cross on him, think he’s got it in the locker tbf but apart from his playoff goal for Fulham can’t remember him taking free kicks.

Scored one for us against Sheffield united(?) Last game of a season... probably his last game for us as well. We lost I think.

[redsocks]

What do you guys think about getting jo Bryan back.

Me I think pring and Bryan down the left could be good.

What do you think.?

[SBB]