Joe Bryan - Signed for Millwall

[George Rs]

1 hour ago, Show Me The Money! said:

The reason he hasn't been playing sadly is that he wasn't good enough to play at prem level. When he did play from what I can remember watching on MOTD he didn't have many creative moments and was part of a very leaky defence. The fact he's hardly played since dropping out of first team contention and that includes when Fulham were in the Champ previously is the concern. Yes, he was a good player for us in the past and had some exciting highlights, which attracted the interest of Fulham and Villa, but is he better than what we've got now. I'm not convinced.

I hope I'm wrong and slipping the City shirt back on puts his career back on track but this feels more like a transfer of the heart than the head to me.

Players don’t lose skill? I’d agree that maybe his fitness wasn’t what it was but I’d expect nige and co to do their due diligence to make sure he’s up to scratch. Just because he hasn’t played as much and is a bit older doesn’t mean he’s got worse? Look at nahki, didn’t play last season except off the bench but is our top goal scorer in the league this year. 
 

Think people massively undervaluing him as the top championship player he is. If we had a game now id realistically pick him over mehmeti to play ok the left wing in a heartbeat. Mehmeti has the potential to be brilliant but currently a very 1 dimensional player. Who better to learn from then someone like joe!

[glynriley]

13 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Rock hard at the prospect of Pring & Bryan. 
 

There I said it. We were all thinking it. 

Rock hard?? You're a younger man than me then...

[Northern Red]

Spotted this on twitter, we've come full circle:

 

[steviestevieneville]

2 hours ago, Show Me The Money! said:

The reason he hasn't been playing sadly is that he wasn't good enough to play at prem level. When he did play from what I can remember watching on MOTD he didn't have many creative moments and was part of a very leaky defence. The fact he's hardly played since dropping out of first team contention and that includes when Fulham were in the Champ previously is the concern. Yes, he was a good player for us in the past and had some exciting highlights, which attracted the interest of Fulham and Villa, but is he better than what we've got now. I'm not convinced.

I hope I'm wrong and slipping the City shirt back on puts his career back on track but this feels more like a transfer of the heart than the head to me.

We’ll be getting a better player than the one that left . Two promotions to the prem & 40+ games in the top flight  . Really don’t get people not wanting him back . With the wages we’re paying now , we’d have no chance of getting a top championship player of his calibre generally . That would be Joe, Matty James & Andy king with the know how of getting out of this league 

[ExiledAjax]

3 hours ago, pjg11 said:

If he does play all the games and gets his 7 predicted goals that puts him in your 5 -10 midfield goals kind of negates your point

But he won't will he.

[bcfc01]

2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

But he won't will he.

Why not ?

[Jose]

Have I missed something regarding him in midfield? I know before he left he had a little run there but not many and I can’t remember him pulling up any trees? I like him him and be great to have him back but not sure where he fits. Won’t be infront of Pring I’d imagine.

[ExiledAjax]

12 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Why not ?

The most league minutes he's ever played in a season is 3,500 - 84% of the maximum possible.

So based on past performance he's not an every minute player, and so is unlikely to achieve that maximum. Maybe he plays 85% and gets 6 goals. That's obviously great, but is unlikely to solve all our issues (remember that in doing that he is replacing someone else - maybe Mehmeti or Bell, so it's not a pure net gain of +6 goals).

Edited May 17, 2023 by ExiledAjax

[W-S-M Seagull]

14 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

The most league minutes he's ever played in a season is 3,500 - 84% of the maximum possible.

So based on past performance he's not an every minute player, and so is unlikely to achieve that maximum. Maybe he plays 85% and gets 6 goals. That's obviously great, but is unlikely to solve all our issues (remember that in doing that he is replacing someone else - maybe Mehmeti or Bell, so it's not a pure net gain of +6 goals).

What about the goals he may score from free kicks? Or by delivering set pieces? Considering we are rubbish in that area then it would be a net gain. 

[Agard Days Night]

14 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

The most league minutes he's ever played in a season is 3,500 - 84% of the maximum possible.

So based on past performance he's not an every minute player, and so is unlikely to achieve that maximum. Maybe he plays 85% and gets 6 goals. That's obviously great, but is unlikely to solve all our issues (remember that in doing that he is replacing someone else - maybe Mehmeti or Bell, so it's not a pure net gain of +6 goals).

 Statto

[Major Isewater]

Has anyone spotted Joe Bryan in Bristol ? 

[TheReds]

15 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

The most league minutes he's ever played in a season is 3,500 - 84% of the maximum possible.

So based on past performance he's not an every minute player, and so is unlikely to achieve that maximum. Maybe he plays 85% and gets 6 goals. That's obviously great, but is unlikely to solve all our issues (remember that in doing that he is replacing someone else - maybe Mehmeti or Bell, so it's not a pure net gain of +6 goals).

Is he meant to be coming in to solve all of our problems as I am not sure anyone is actually saying that?

What if he comes and assists a fair few goals, what if he helps Pring create more assists with link up play, what if he helps cover Pring and we concede less goals, what if he helps improve a few youngsters as well. 

[Magicdaps]

I think with JB looking likely to return, it not only adds quality and versatility to the squad, but it also has a sensible degree of contingency built in as I'd be amazed if there wasn't strong interest in Cam this summer, plus Jays future is obviously still very much undecided.  I sincerely hope I'm wrong as Cam was a revelation this season, and his pace and power are a real asset both defensively and offensively.  I can also see us continuing our pursuit of Currie in addition to JB joining, assuming JD moves on.

Edited May 17, 2023 by Magicdaps

[ExiledAjax]

3 hours ago, TheReds said:

I'm lost, you say he isn't a 5-10 goalscorer we are looking for but in the same post predicts he will get 7?

If he plays every minute. If they are all at LM. Then he could be reasonably predicted to get 7.

Look, maybe I misunderstood @Major Isewater's post in that I read it as setting an unreasonable expectation that signing Joe Bryan would create many goals from midfield. Based on Bryan's history that is unlikely.

I'll say again though, I want him to sign. He'd be a great addition. Just about having reasonable and fair expectations of new signings is all.

[Bobbie]

My worry with JB is he’s lost his ambition and is looking for an easy life in familiar surroundings. 

[bcfc01]

33 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

The most league minutes he's ever played in a season is 3,500 - 84% of the maximum possible.

So based on past performance he's not an every minute player, and so is unlikely to achieve that maximum. Maybe he plays 85% and gets 6 goals. That's obviously great, but is unlikely to solve all our issues (remember that in doing that he is replacing someone else - maybe Mehmeti or Bell, so it's not a pure net gain of +6 goals).

TBH I'm not at all bothered by how many goals are in him, although If he plays further forward than he has been, then goals are more likely. A player of his quality and experience is more important for me and if he can do 80% of games, that'll be good. 

 

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, glynriley said:

Rock hard?? You're a younger man than me then...

It stops @Fordy62 rolling out of bed!

29 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said:

 Statto

Yeah, what a geek, eh!

16 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Has anyone spotted Joe Bryan in Bristol ? 

Yes….

….was a few years ago though!

6 minutes ago, Bobbie said:

My worry with JB is he’s lost his ambition and is looking for an easy life in familiar surroundings. 

I would imagine it’s actually his motivation….fingers crossed.

[W-S-M Seagull]

5 minutes ago, Bobbie said:

My worry with JB is he’s lost his ambition and is looking for an easy life in familiar surroundings. 

I'm absolutely certain Nige wouldn't sign him if he had any sort of feeling that he was coming back here for an easy life.

[CyderInACan]

30 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Has anyone spotted Joe Bryan in Bristol ? 

Yeah he's just bought Alan Curbishley's old gaff 

[One Team]

10 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I'm absolutely certain Nige wouldn't sign him if he had any sort of feeling that he was coming back here for an easy life.

I agree with Bobbie and you here; and this was my concern. I don’t discount his ability as a player, but going back is always questionable and we’ve moved on from the Lansdown/nepotism/family-feel era now. 

[Red Army 75]

3 minutes ago, One Team said:

I agree with Bobbie and you here; and this was my concern. I don’t discount his ability as a player, but going back is always questionable and we’ve moved on from the Lansdown/nepotism/family-feel era now. 

I see it totally opposite OT. He’s only 29 returning to the club that made/gave him the opportunity to be a professional footballer. IMO he will lead by example and try and fire us into the premier league. No passengers at our football club now. Those days are gone and IMO players know exactly where they stand.

[LittleUn]

28 minutes ago, Bobbie said:

My worry with JB is he’s lost his ambition and is looking for an easy life in familiar surroundings. 

Joe Bryan is too intelligent to think he would be getting an easy life under Nigel Pearson! 

[One Team]

4 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

I see it totally opposite OT. He’s only 29 returning to the club that made/gave him the opportunity to be a professional footballer. IMO he will lead by example and try and fire us into the premier league. No passengers at our football club now. Those days are gone and IMO players know exactly where they stand.

Probably the best, most respectful, alternative view to a comment I’ve made on here ever!

[RedRock]

Our history is littered with ‘returnees’ who have failed to fully live up to expectations second time around, in on or off the field roles - whether loans to permanent (the Chelsea trio, Tomlin et al) or permanent to permanent (Joe Jordan).

There are occasional exceptions. Hopefully, Joe B would be one of those. On the ‘hope’ side, the guy is super-intelligent and highly likeable. He was very fit and athletic. There is a ‘risk’ side though, the mental health aspect and whether that hunger for football and success really does still burn bright. I suspect even Joe doesn’t fully know that - but, logically, he may well view it that if he can’t do it for his hometown Club in familiar surroundings with family support, he wouldn’t be able to do it anywhere else. The other ‘risk’ is that Nige doesn’t know how to play him…for info. he just hasn’t the positional awareness to play full-back, so left/central midfield please.

Let’s hope for an MA-style ‘vigorous’ assessment before we commit so neither parties end up regretting the move. That said, on an emotional level, I’d really love to welcome him back and for him to play a big part in pushing us on. 

 

[Davefevs]

7 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said:

Are they though?

Is Kane Wilson not a passenger? What chance has he been given after joining off the back of a POTY season in L2?

What makes him fit the “passenger” tag in your eyes.  And what impact do you think his injury has had on his chances (post-recovery).  I’m not agreeing or disagreeing, just interested in why you consider him a passenger.

[Red Army 75]

9 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said:

Are they though?

Is Kane Wilson not a passenger? What chance has he been given after joining off the back of a POTY season in L2?

He had a serious injury, pretty certain he would have started the season at right back. Nige said it’s been a tough recovery for him. He now has a pre season to get himself back up to speed. 
 

It’s certainly better than what it was IMO. By a long way 

[Southport Red]

13 minutes ago, RedRock said:

Our history is littered with ‘returnees’ who have failed to fully live up to expectations second time around, in on or off the field roles - whether loans to permanent (the Chelsea trio, Tomlin et al) or permanent to permanent (Joe Jordan).

There are occasional exceptions. Hopefully, Joe B would be one of those. On the ‘hope’ side, the guy is super-intelligent and highly likeable. He was very fit and athletic. There is a ‘risk’ side though, the mental health aspect and whether that hunger for football and success really does still burn bright. I suspect even Joe doesn’t fully know that - but, logically, he may well view it that if he can’t do it for his hometown Club in familiar surroundings with family support, he wouldn’t be able to do it anywhere else. The other ‘risk’ is that Nige doesn’t know how to play him…for info. he just hasn’t the positional awareness to play full-back, so left/central midfield please.

Let’s hope for an MA-style ‘vigorous’ assessment before we commit so neither parties end up regretting the move. That said, on an emotional level, I’d really love to welcome him back and for him to play a big part in pushing us on. 

 

On the other hand, Carey and Murray did well second time around. 

[Taz]

22 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said:

Are they though?

Is Kane Wilson not a passenger? What chance has he been given after joining off the back of a POTY season in L2?

Well considering he was out for a large part of the season with an injury, understandably not a lot.

He didn't play any part at the end of the season as he wasn't needed, and we weren't playing for anything.

After having players return, too early in some cases, and then get a recurrence and/or something else because they're not up to speed, it made absolutely no sense in even risking Wilson with the season end around the corner. Correct decision in not risking him completely.

People already writing him off (not in this case, but it has been said) need to remember Szmodics. Was bombed back out and now playing the best football of his career to date with Blackburn.

He hasn't been written off, nor is he a passenger. His first season here has been a write off because of the injury and rehabilitation. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

Edited May 17, 2023 by Taz

[OneTeamInBristol]

IMO even if he does come in and isn't necessarily as good as we expect and only contributes to a few goals a season I don't mind having someone around the dressing room who brings a bit more of a Bristolian feeling back to the club.

For what it's worth I don't think that will be the case, I think he would be a good addition to every single Championship squad, including the 3 that come down.

[cidered abroad]

12 minutes ago, RedRock said:

Our history is littered with ‘returnees’ who have failed to fully live up to expectations second time around, in on or off the field roles - whether loans to permanent (the Chelsea trio, Tomlin et al) or permanent to permanent (Joe Jordan).

There are occasional exceptions. Hopefully, Joe B would be one of those. On the ‘hope’ side, the guy is super-intelligent and highly likeable. He was very fit and athletic. There is a ‘risk’ side though, the mental health aspect and whether that hunger for football and success really does still burn bright. I suspect even Joe doesn’t fully know that - but, logically, he may well view it that if he can’t do it for his hometown Club in familiar surroundings with family support, he wouldn’t be able to do it anywhere else. The other ‘risk’ is that Nige doesn’t know how to play him…for info. he just hasn’t the positional awareness to play full-back, so left/central midfield please.

Let’s hope for an MA-style ‘vigorous’ assessment before we commit so neither parties end up regretting the move. That said, on an emotional level, I’d really love to welcome him back and for him to play a big part in pushing us on. 

 

History littered with returning players?

You must be joking. Working backwards there are Carey and Murray who had short and not too productive spells away, yet came back and did very well. 

Prior to that in the 1970/80's Chris Garland and Tom Ritchie and did superbly well. Chris even came back a third time after being one of the Ashton Gate Eight.

And the only other two that I can remember were Jimmy Rogers and Jack Boxley. Heroes in the first promotion team that I saw in 1955, they left, probably didn't want to and both returned a couple of years later. Rogers is still third highest scorer, I believe!

I haven't included the trash like Tomlin and a few other ex loaners as IMO, I don't count loaners as permanent players.

[LondonBristolian]

14 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

History littered with returning players?

You must be joking. Working backwards there are Carey and Murray who had short and not too productive spells away, yet came back and did very well. 

Prior to that in the 1970/80's Chris Garland and Tom Ritchie and did superbly well. Chris even came back a third time after being one of the Ashton Gate Eight.

And the only other two that I can remember were Jimmy Rogers and Jack Boxley. Heroes in the first promotion team that I saw in 1955, they left, probably didn't want to and both returned a couple of years later. Rogers is still third highest scorer, I believe!

I haven't included the trash like Tomlin and a few other ex loaners as IMO, I don't count loaners as permanent players.

Golbourne and Cotterill are the only other two I can think of. I'd say both did broadly the job they were brought in to do when they returned. 

[W-S-M Seagull]

36 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

He had a serious injury, pretty certain he would have started the season at right back. Nige said it’s been a tough recovery for him. He now has a pre season to get himself back up to speed. 
 

It’s certainly better than what it was IMO. By a long way 

I think the decision was taken that there was no point of rushing him back and to instead give him every opportunity of being fit for next season with a good pre season under his belt. 

Having him available will be like making a new signing.

[glynriley]

26 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

History littered with returning players?

You must be joking. Working backwards there are Carey and Murray who had short and not too productive spells away, yet came back and did very well. 

Prior to that in the 1970/80's Chris Garland and Tom Ritchie and did superbly well. Chris even came back a third time after being one of the Ashton Gate Eight.

And the only other two that I can remember were Jimmy Rogers and Jack Boxley. Heroes in the first promotion team that I saw in 1955, they left, probably didn't want to and both returned a couple of years later. Rogers is still third highest scorer, I believe!

I haven't included the trash like Tomlin and a few other ex loaners as IMO, I don't count loaners as permanent players.

Trevor Morgan another returnee..Mid 80's

[George Rs]

15 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said:

He's been fit for months and hasn't even been making the matchday squad - what other tag is there for him?

Injury of course hasn't helped but when he was fit at the start of the season Pearson chose to play a right winger at wing back ahead of the L2 POTY, which I found baffling.

 

Wouldn't get your hopes up about seeing Wilson in a City shirt again, there's no place for him in a back 4 and he's been told he can leave if a buyer is found, which I'm sure won't be an issue.

There’s no place for him in our best back four currently. well…. Obviously????

Young tenacious player who was brought in because of his potential not current ability.
 

During his injury Tanner started games and done brilliantly, why would Pearson drop him? And by The time he was back fit our bench was already very strong so it was hard to fit someone returning from injury with no match experience in? 
A full pre season will do him good and will probably start the season as cover for Tanner, if Tanner doesn’t perform or gets injured he will come in with a versatile mccorrie as cover in that position. All seems very easy to understand to me. Cant pick every player for every game. 

[BCFC11]

4 hours ago, petehinton said:

I wouldn’t rule out that happening anyway. The club giving new deals to Atkinson and Tanner despite them not being in their final year shows a shift in ‘protecting assets’

Need to pay Cam what he deserves, not currently offering enough.

[CyderInACan]

2 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

Need to pay Cam what he deserves, not currently offering enough.

What's he being offered?

[W-S-M Seagull]

30 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said:

He's been fit for months and hasn't even been making the matchday squad - what other tag is there for him?

Injury of course hasn't helped but when he was fit at the start of the season Pearson chose to play a right winger at wing back ahead of the L2 POTY, which I found baffling.

 

Wouldn't get your hopes up about seeing Wilson in a City shirt again, there's no place for him in a back 4 and he's been told he can leave if a buyer is found, which I'm sure won't be an issue.

The decision was made to not risk him and instead give him an extended period of time to build his fitness up because we didn't need to risk him. 

Wilson got injured in pre season and in those games where you mention at the start of the season, he was still carrying the injury so therefore it wasn't baffling.

You're trying to spin an untrue narrative. 

[BCFC11]

1 minute ago, CyderInACan said:

What's he being offered?

Unsure on figures, but not what Cam or his agent believe he should be on. 

[Davefevs]

32 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said:

He's been fit for months and hasn't even been making the matchday squad - what other tag is there for him?

Injury of course hasn't helped but when he was fit at the start of the season Pearson chose to play a right winger at wing back ahead of the L2 POTY, which I found baffling.

 

Wouldn't get your hopes up about seeing Wilson in a City shirt again, there's no place for him in a back 4 and he's been told he can leave if a buyer is found, which I'm sure won't be an issue.

Came back, made the bench v Man City (28/2), sub for most of the next 7/8 until last made the 18 v Stoke (4/7).  He got 10 mins v Swansea.

So the facts are he missed the last 6 squads / 1 month.

He was injured pre-season and Sykes took his chance at RWB.  We know Nige’s stance on selection policy.

What I’m asking is he a passenger - down to himself or a passenger - down to the manager, or even a bit of both?  I tend to refer to a passenger as someone who isn’t putting the effort in, ie it’s down to them, rather than not being selected…hence asking for clarification.

 

[Northern Red]

Ooh, it's an ITK-off....

[CyderInACan]

7 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said:

Not enough to reflect how he's played this season, that said he does want to sign a new deal.

Pearson has alluded to this in his press recently, he said that he doesn't believe in elevating a player who has done well for one year to being in line with some of your top earners.

It's a nice thought, but the reality is nowadays players like Pring can just dig their heels in and then go and get what they feel they're worth elsewhere. He won't be short of interest.

 

6 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

Unsure on figures, but not what Cam or his agent believe he should be on. 

That bit in bold is surely fair? I'll admit he was fantastic to watch this year - and I'm sure it's not gone un-noticed - but surely he himself is realistic about the next level of remuneration he should be elevated to? 

[Rudolf Hucker]

40 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said:

He's been fit for months and hasn't even been making the matchday squad - what other tag is there for him?

Why does he need a tag? By awarding him one you’re displaying your personal opinion based upon a lot of supposition rather than knowledge. 

[BCFC11]

1 minute ago, CyderInACan said:

 

That bit in bold is surely fair? I'll admit he was fantastic to watch this year - and I'm sure it's not gone un-noticed - but surely he himself is realistic about the next level of remuneration he should be elevated to? 

Like I said I'm not sure on what the numbers are or what he thinks he should be on, just that the club aren't offering him enough. Don't think he'd expect to be one of the top earners just what he feels he deserves, what that is, is anyone's guess.

[Davefevs]

Just now, Jimbo123 said:

I'm not saying it's not in fairness mate, but whilst it might be fair as I said if Pring or other players don't think the contracts fairly reflect what they know they'll get offered then they'll push for their move.

Fair enough. If you listened to Pearson's press, he'd have you believe he's not been present in the team due to fitness levels and possibly a lack of drive to get there., which I don't believe is true.

I think it's fair to say he's been a passenger this year personally as when he's been available he hasn't really ever featured, but it's a game game of opinions.

Is this any different from Pring, Atkinson, etc…setting the levels required, etc…aka Nige’s style of man-management?  You can throw Bakinson into the same approach too.  Some come through it, some don’t.

[Bobbie]

4 hours ago, LittleUn said:

Joe Bryan is too intelligent to think he would be getting an easy life under Nigel Pearson! 

Sign a 3-year contract, coast through some training sessions, get bombed out to the reserves and see out your footballing career on 12k per week whilst living back close to your family. 
I'm not saying I think that will definitely happen or that’s his plan but I do worry that, even subconsciously, he won’t be as motivated as he was at the start of his career. 
what are his LT goals? Many will say getting his boyhood club back to the Premier League but I just don’t quite buy that. I think he wants it as a lifestyle choice which is a concern for me. 

[Agard Days Night]

21 minutes ago, Bobbie said:

Sign a 3-year contract, coast through some training sessions, get bombed out to the reserves and see out your footballing career on 12k per week whilst living back close to your family. 
I'm not saying I think that will definitely happen or that’s his plan but I do worry that, even subconsciously, he won’t be as motivated as he was at the start of his career. 
what are his LT goals? Many will say getting his boyhood club back to the Premier League but I just don’t quite buy that. I think he wants it as a lifestyle choice which is a concern for me. 

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Gratz260689]

21 minutes ago, Bobbie said:

Sign a 3-year contract, coast through some training sessions, get bombed out to the reserves and see out your footballing career on 12k per week whilst living back close to your family. 
I'm not saying I think that will definitely happen or that’s his plan but I do worry that, even subconsciously, he won’t be as motivated as he was at the start of his career. 
what are his LT goals? Many will say getting his boyhood club back to the Premier League but I just don’t quite buy that. I think he wants it as a lifestyle choice which is a concern for me. 

Not having that one bit, joe has never been that type of player…he will offer a lot more than the likes of kalas, Dasilva, who are on alot bigger wages than joe would be getting!! 

[Northern Red]

26 minutes ago, Bobbie said:

Sign a 3-year contract, coast through some training sessions, get bombed out to the reserves and see out your footballing career on 12k per week whilst living back close to your family. 
I'm not saying I think that will definitely happen or that’s his plan but I do worry that, even subconsciously, he won’t be as motivated as he was at the start of his career. 
what are his LT goals? Many will say getting his boyhood club back to the Premier League but I just don’t quite buy that. I think he wants it as a lifestyle choice which is a concern for me. 

Unless you know him personally, I'm not sure you should be casting aspersions on his character like that.

[chinapig]

38 minutes ago, Bobbie said:

Sign a 3-year contract, coast through some training sessions, get bombed out to the reserves and see out your footballing career on 12k per week whilst living back close to your family. 
I'm not saying I think that will definitely happen or that’s his plan but I do worry that, even subconsciously, he won’t be as motivated as he was at the start of his career. 
what are his LT goals? Many will say getting his boyhood club back to the Premier League but I just don’t quite buy that. I think he wants it as a lifestyle choice which is a concern for me. 

I suppose the acid test is whether you would be prepared to say that to his face.

I know of no evidence that there is any such problem with his attitude. Any sniff of that and Nigel wouldn't take him on.

[Sleepy1968]

5 hours ago, Southport Red said:

On the other hand, Carey and Murray did well second time around. 

And without the likes of Shaw, Ritchie and Garland coming back to help us post 1982 bust, we might not be where we are now.

[steviestevieneville]

1 hour ago, Bobbie said:

Sign a 3-year contract, coast through some training sessions, get bombed out to the reserves and see out your footballing career on 12k per week whilst living back close to your family. 
I'm not saying I think that will definitely happen or that’s his plan but I do worry that, even subconsciously, he won’t be as motivated as he was at the start of his career. 
what are his LT goals? Many will say getting his boyhood club back to the Premier League but I just don’t quite buy that. I think he wants it as a lifestyle choice which is a concern for me. 

Based on what ? You have absolutely no idea of the character of the lad. There’s no way he’s ever come across like that . Plus the club has changed massively in that respect . No passengers here anymore 

[Gazred]

Fulham will have paid him more than we ever have or will. He won't be coming back for the money and he won't get an easy ride.

Sure it's a 'nice' move should it happen but he would have to want to be here. As others have said, NP wouldn't have it any other way.

[Northern Red]

Bear in mind also that Joe has spent this season in the company of Kasper Schmeichel. I daresay that he'll know exactly what to expect from Nige, and likewise Nige will have a good idea of what sort of player and character he's getting.

Edited May 17, 2023 by Northern Red

[RedEyez]

1 hour ago, Bobbie said:

Sign a 3-year contract, coast through some training sessions, get bombed out to the reserves and see out your footballing career on 12k per week whilst living back close to your family. 
I'm not saying I think that will definitely happen or that’s his plan but I do worry that, even subconsciously, he won’t be as motivated as he was at the start of his career. 
what are his LT goals? Many will say getting his boyhood club back to the Premier League but I just don’t quite buy that. I think he wants it as a lifestyle choice which is a concern for me. 

Christ.

[Sleepy1968]

23 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Bear in mind also that Joe has spent this season in the company of Kasper Schmeichel. I daresay that he'll know exactly what to expect from Nige, and likewise Nige will have a good idea of what sort of player and character he's getting.

He just needs to look at this

 

[BLRed]

57 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Bear in mind also that Joe has spent this season in the company of Kasper Schmeichel. I daresay that he'll know exactly what to expect from Nige, and likewise Nige will have a good idea of what sort of player and character he's getting.

Would love it if he brought Kasper with him to be No.1. Some real quality and authority between the sticks

[Sir Geoff]

1 hour ago, BLRed said:

Would love it if he brought Kasper with him to be No.1. Some real quality and authority between the sticks

Contracted for at least another couple of years to Nice. No chance we could buy him, then pay his wages.

[phantom]

35 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Contracted for at least another couple of years to Nice. No chance we could buy him, then pay his wages.

Nice were very close to letting him go in January due to off field "attitude" problems 

[Agard Days Night]

15 minutes ago, phantom said:

Nice were very close to letting him go in January due to off field "attitude" problems 

Doesn’t sound very nice 

[bpexile]

11 hours ago, Fordy62 said:

Rock hard at the prospect of Pring & Bryan. 
 

There I said it. We were all thinking it. 

Lucky You!.....................................................Distant memories at my age  

[TBW]

3 hours ago, BLRed said:

Would love it if he brought Kasper with him to be No.1. Some real quality and authority between the sticks

Still annoyed we signed David James instead of him.

[alexukhc]

4 minutes ago, TBW said:

Still annoyed we signed David James instead of him.

Did we have a choice?

[TBW]

1 hour ago, alexukhc said:

Did we have a choice?

Could've tried. 

[MarcusX]

So I'm very late to this

Where has this story come from? Have we had an OTIB "ITK confirmation" or is it just a link because he's potentially unhappy and Bristol lad coming home?

How realistic is this do we think?

[Agard Days Night]

34 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

So I'm very late to this

Where has this story come from? Have we had an OTIB "ITK confirmation" or is it just a link because he's potentially unhappy and Bristol lad coming home?

How realistic is this do we think?

All the answers to your questions and more in pages 1-22 of this very thread Marc. 

[Jeez]

11 hours ago, BLRed said:

Would love it if he brought Kasper with him to be No.1. Some real quality and authority between the sticks

[glynriley]

1 minute ago, Jeez said:

 

Nice...

[Port Said Red]

2 minutes ago, Jeez said:

I must admit I didn't realise there was that kind of money in the French league outside of the obvious clubs.

[WRERE]

23 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I must admit I didn't realise there was that kind of money in the French league outside of the obvious clubs.

Nice are loaded. They are owned Sir Jim Ratcliffe/Ineos who are also likely to be the new Utd owners. 

Edited May 18, 2023 by WRERE

[Nogbad the Bad]

18 hours ago, Jimbo123 said:

Wouldn't get your hopes up about seeing Wilson in a City shirt again, there's no place for him in a back 4 and he's been told he can leave if a buyer is found, which I'm sure won't be an issue.

Has he?

First I've heard of that.