Davefevs Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: You can definitely see the difference in his game compared to kids of the same age, who have had so little "proper" football. Was just chatting to someone about “game maturity”….too many of the England team in both last summer’s Euro u19s and last night dribble too much. I’m surprised that they’ve not yet built that maturity to play more pass and move. Scott and Edwards showed their maturity, I thought Gyabi played well too out of the outfield players. I think it is clear that the two “lower league lads” show up well, and possibly why Scarlett hasn’t played week in week out for Pompey. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Lrrr said: It’s recorded as a ‘second assist’ in football Good to know, and I imagined it was tracked somewhere. I mean more the masses who focus on just goals and assists :). e.g. a 'second assist' in hockey is counted in the stats as indistinguishable from a regular assist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Tom said: Good to see Alex pick up a 'hockey assist' i.e. an assist to the assister. Even if that's not a stat most track in Football! Another column for Davefevs' spread sheets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Was just chatting to someone about “game maturity”….too many of the England team in both last summer’s Euro u19s and last night dribble too much. I’m surprised that they’ve not yet built that maturity to play more pass and move. Scott and Edwards showed their maturity, I thought Gyabi played well too out of the outfield players. I think it is clear that the two “lower league lads” show up well, and possibly why Scarlett hasn’t played week in week out for Pompey. I've seen Scarlett a few times now and he can finish, but his decision making is awful. That team would be lifted by Tommy Conway being in it - proper team player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 13 hours ago, frenchred said: Bloody awful game, awful pitch and awful support Next game is Thursday. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Super said: Next game is Thursday. Enjoy. Same night as EastEnders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Was just chatting to someone about “game maturity”….too many of the England team in both last summer’s Euro u19s and last night dribble too much. I’m surprised that they’ve not yet built that maturity to play more pass and move. Yep, some of them have an air of "look at me, I'm a Premier League player". Except of course they aren't really if they spend their time e.g. on loan in League 1 or at best perpetually on the bench for their club. However talented they are they are going to have to rein in their ego if they are to succeed in the club game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 50 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Was just chatting to someone about “game maturity”….too many of the England team in both last summer’s Euro u19s and last night dribble too much. I’m surprised that they’ve not yet built that maturity to play more pass and move. Scott and Edwards showed their maturity, I thought Gyabi played well too out of the outfield players. I think it is clear that the two “lower league lads” show up well, and possibly why Scarlett hasn’t played week in week out for Pompey. Jebbison is miles better than Scarlett. Bizarre decision to favour him unless it was just to give him a start with Jebbison being 1st choice ongoing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, downendcity said: Another column for Davefevs' spread sheets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: Damn - missed it. As soon as I posted I just knew you'd already have it covered and would doubtless tell me so! Then again I haven't yet attended my summer school class on interpreting Excel spreadsheets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 5 hours ago, bcfc01 said: I've seen Scarlett a few times now and he can finish, but his decision making is awful. That team would be lifted by Tommy Conway being in it - proper team player. Played for Scotland hasn't he or can they swap about at that age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, redysteadygo said: Played for Scotland hasn't he or can they swap about at that age? He could play for England despite his caps for Scotland U21s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 4 hours ago, The Bard said: Jebbison is miles better than Scarlett. Bizarre decision to favour him unless it was just to give him a start with Jebbison being 1st choice ongoing. I agree, but that was a shocking miss at the very end of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Tom said: He definitely plays that role that people used to call a "quarterback" sitting deep and dictating tempo, but as much of a creative outlet as players playing further up. As mentioned last night it was a bit odd to see him blocking the keeper at corners or lining up with forwards for free kicks into the box when there were 3 other players stood over the dead ball. Would have expected him to be over the ball, seems there is a pecking order. One thing I did enjoy was with it not being a City game I could kind of ignore the match and track his movement. Not that there was a lot of excitement to distract me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 6 hours ago, bcfc01 said: I've seen Scarlett a few times now and he can finish, but his decision making is awful. That team would be lifted by Tommy Conway being in it - proper team player. Shame Conway isn’t their age group then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Shame Conway isn’t their age group then Not sure. 21 in August isn't he.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Not sure. 21 in August isn't he.? Its based on age group rather than actual age, Conway was age group above Scott so if he wanted to represent England he'd have to get into our U21's side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Lrrr said: Its based on age group rather than actual age, Conway was age group above Scott so if he wanted to represent England he'd have to get into our U21's side. Fat chance. Wrong club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, bcfc01 said: He could play for England despite his caps for Scotland U21s. Scotland missed a trick there. 5 mins in a friendly would have tied it up FYI. Fort those who have VPN and other thingies the tournament is being shown by FS2 In the USA. Edited May 23, 2023 by REDOXO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Scotland missed a trick there. 5 mins in a friendly would have tied it up FYI. Fort those who have VPN and other thingies the tournament is being shown by FS2 In the USA. I believe you’re only tied to a particular country once you’ve appeared in a competitive full international. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 The rules: https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/why-footballers-change-international-teams-eligibility-rules-new-updates-explained/qzqdkqcx0x871eprs8yywafpz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Malago said: I believe you’re only tied to a particular country once you’ve appeared in a competitive full international. Exactly, would a friendly not be considered a full international? I guess what I’m struggling with is the definition of competitive! Edited May 24, 2023 by REDOXO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Exactly, would a friendly not be considered a full international? Don’t believe so, believe it has to be a competitive fixture ie qualifier or competition, however I expect nations league now counts as well so there are probably few genuine friendlies left 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, REDOXO said: Exactly, would a friendly not be considered a full international? I guess what I’m struggling with is the definition of competitive! Basically competitive would be a competition organised by a Federation ( Uefa or FIFA say) , Friendlies can be organised by respective FA's and not necessarily governed by the same rules like Subs etc. At least that's my take. That's an interesting article @Davefevs , missed that completely . No wonder people get confused, being able (potentially) to play for 2 Nations in the same Tournament is a big change. Edited May 24, 2023 by 1960maaan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: Basically competitive would be a competition organised by a Federation ( Uefa or FIFA say) , Friendlies can be organised by respective FA's and not necessarily governed by the same rules like Subs etc. At least that's my take. That's an interesting article @Davefevs , missed that completely . No wonder people get confused, being able (potentially) to play for 2 Nations in the same Tournament is a big change. I might’ve posted the link…didn’t say I understood it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 Think England are playing again this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 51 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Think England are playing again this evening. Indeed they are. The stream is here: https://www.plus.fifa.com/en/content/live-streaming-fifa-u-20-world-cup-argentina-2023-uruguay-v-england/6005f9c4-9bfa-4349-817d-c93911a0f14c?gl=gb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Much tougher game for England tonight against Uruguay who beat Iraq 4-0 in their first game. England without a few players thanks to the intransigence of Chelsea in denying permission for Chukwuemeka to join the squad until their season is over. He's had hardly any first team game time this season since he made the daft decision to join them from Villa (£18m) with 12 appearances averaging under 20 minutes per game and, aside from 9 minutes against Man. City (probably to justify their decidion to keep him here) not been in the squad for the previous 7 games. He's a very influential player for England and, with Chelsea's season over, its a particularly mean spirited decision regardless of any injuries they may have. A couple playing in the play-offs can't be helped. Ronnie Edwards was back in the squad after Peterborough were beaten in their play-off. Looking forward to this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Much tougher game for England tonight against Uruguay who beat Iraq 4-0 in their first game. England without a few players thanks to the intransigence of Chelsea in denying permission for Chukwuemeka to join the squad until their season is over. He's had hardly any first team game time this season since he made the daft decision to join them from Villa (£18m) with 12 appearances averaging under 20 minutes per game and, aside from 9 minutes against Man. City (probably to justify their decidion to keep him here) not been in the squad for the previous 7 games. He's a very influential player for England and, with Chelsea's season over, its a particularly mean spirited decision regardless of any injuries they may have. A couple playing in the play-offs can't be helped. Ronnie Edwards was back in the squad after Peterborough were beaten in their play-off. Looking forward to this one. I'm with you on Chukweumeka. He was complaining he wasn't getting games at Villa but did he really think he would get more at Chelsea? The irony is that with Emery coming he might have got more games at Villa, perhaps joining Ramsey in midfield. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, chinapig said: I'm with you on Chukweumeka. He was complaining he wasn't getting games at Villa but did he really think he would get more at Chelsea? The irony is that with Emery coming he might have got more games at Villa, perhaps joining Ramsey in midfield. My general feeling is that young players are too quick to move upwards (what they perceive to be upwards anyway). Its similar to most walks of life, people too quick to chase the next promotion, before they are truly competent, 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: My general feeling is that young players are too quick to move upwards (what they perceive to be upwards anyway). Its similar to most walks of life, people too quick to chase the next promotion, before they are truly competent, Some of them do it at 14 when the big club comes along and how often does it ever work? I admit it takes a brave parent to say no to Man City, Chelsea or Liverpool but had one or two I know shown that bravery their lads would probably be in a far better place now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 57 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Some of them do it at 14 when the big club comes along and how often does it ever work? I admit it takes a brave parent to say no to Man City, Chelsea or Liverpool but had one or two I know shown that bravery their lads would probably be in a far better place now. I think the problem is that saying no can be seen as a lack of ambition or self confidence, when actually it should be seen as positive thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCAL Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Mental as Chukweumeka was apparently offered a £100,000 a week contract to stay at Villa too, so was obviously very highly rated there. Bad decision IMO, but he may have had his reasons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, BCFCAL said: Mental as Chukweumeka was apparently offered a £100,000 a week contract to stay at Villa too, so was obviously very highly rated there. Bad decision IMO, but he may have had his reasons! Yeah bad decision definitely. However, he gets knocked down but he’ll get up again. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leader Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Can anyone get it on the firestick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, leader said: Can anyone get it on the firestick I watched it through The Crew add on in Kodi, not sure what you have on your firestick? Somebody said they are showing it on Fox Sports 2 if you have a VPN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Any team news yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 25, 2023 Admin Share Posted May 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, myol'man said: Any team news yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, myol'man said: Any team news yet? Scott is playing in what looks like a 3-4-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 hours ago, leader said: Can anyone get it on the firestick A friend told me Fox Sports 2 have it in their schedule to show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 hours ago, leader said: Can anyone get it on the firestick Yes just use the internet browser app and goto plus.fifa.com, watched the last game that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Anyone got a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Malago said: Anyone got a link? It's on the FIFA website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Sloppy start by England 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 hours ago, BCFCAL said: Mental as Chukweumeka was apparently offered a £100,000 a week contract to stay at Villa too, so was obviously very highly rated there. Bad decision IMO, but he may have had his reasons! Yeah, being a millionaire at 19 isnt as bad as it sounds! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leader Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Fox sports on USA sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Alex right involved now. This is going to get chippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 This Ref is going to be interesting. Doesn't seem to mind a push and a pull on Scott. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Yeeesss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Scotty's work on the goal line created the space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Scotty's work on the goal line created the space. Scott just looks better than most of them 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Scott just looks better than most of them I am watching a stream with Spanish commentary and they keep mentioning him, although it took me a while to work out who "Scoot" was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, leader said: Fox sports on USA sports Good picture as well Angus !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Love seeing the keeper come and claim that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2/0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Have that Luis Suarez you dirty biting cheat. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Uruguay are so hectic, like schoolboys really. They could do with Scott in their midfield to dictate the pace of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 What a nasty bunch of knobheads the Uruguayans are. Glad to see Scott made their mouthy no.5 cry at the end of the half. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Get in 2-0....little bit of physicality back at the Uruguay CB and we get the ball in a good position...good pass, early shot by Devine, keeper can't get set and goal. I do like Leeds's Gyabi alongside Scott. Still can't work out what Scarlett brings up top??? The RWB (Oyegoke) having a better game tonight. Edwards impressive again, Cox also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Malago said: Have that Luis Suarez you dirty biting cheat. They are niggly bunch. A lot of rolling around and feigning. However I think the ref has been firm. Pitch looks like Twerton and some of our passing has been short, but they’ve earned their lead. Scott looks the best player out there by a distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Just now, grifty said: What a nasty bunch of knobheads the Uruguayans are. Glad to see Scott made their mouthy no.5 cry at the end of the half. If they concentrated less on play acting and fouling/cheating they might be okay. I can see a mass brawl and a red card coming up in the second half. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Just now, REDOXO said: Scott looks the best player out there by a distance I though so too, but it might be confirmation bias. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 England seemed to take a while to get a grip of conditions, so many misplaced passes and poor touches. Improved as the game went on. I know I'm biased , but Scott looks like someone playing in an agegroup below him. Looks so calm and aware. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said: I though so too, but it might be confirmation bias. I can confirm that he was the best player even if I could be accused of bias! 4 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: England seemed to take a while to get a grip of conditions, so many misplaced passes and poor touches. Improved as the game went on. I know I'm biased , but Scott looks like someone playing in an agegroup below him. Looks so calm and aware. Exactly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: England seemed to take a while to get a grip of conditions, so many misplaced passes and poor touches. Improved as the game went on. I know I'm biased , but Scott looks like someone playing in an agegroup below him. Looks so calm and aware. Was just about to say, ‘calm’ is the word I would have chosen. Lots of charging around but Alex always seem to have a yard to just decide what to do rather than trying to show how good by trying to dribble past six on a cabbage patch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, cityexile said: Was just about to say, ‘calm’ is the word I would have chosen. Lots of charging around but Alex always seem to have a yard to just decide what to do rather than trying to show how good by trying to dribble past six on a cabbage patch. "At the highest level, the first two yards are in your head". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Game on. Clearest on side of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 cracking game in fairness. good experience to get a game like this early in the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 5 hours ago, leader said: Can anyone get it on the firestick Sky sport 3 NZ English commentator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 35 minutes ago, grifty said: What a nasty bunch of knobheads the Uruguayans are. Always have been, remember World Cup 66 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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