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13 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Unless, of course, Zak is off somewhere............................

Possible. Wasn’t there a link to Brentford earlier this year? Seems highly unlikely but with their model it could be a goer.

As mentioned previously QPR are skint so we may get a decent deal here. 

Looking at some of their fans tweets they are pretty pissed off with last season and with Beale in particular, which is no surprise.  I think that Ainsworth has a job on his hands .

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2 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

He was pissed when he said that surely 

Early last season, when I was saying I thought they would be chasing top 10, he said they would struggle.
He also said it's the worst football for years. They don't seem to have a lot of money and Ainsworth is the equivalent of Tins here. Legend of a player , but has to start again as a manager. He did a great job at Wycombe but QPR is another level. 
I hope they do OK, I enjoy going there and my Brother in Law is QPR too so I enjoy beating them. I do worry for them though.

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Selection of posts from the QPR forum…..

Can see Dickie leaving

Was definitely one of the boo boys favourites this season and yes up until last few games he was way below what he can be, he still turned up each week and particularly in Burnley away game was absolutely key in that result being achieved.

Not surprised if he left as I doubt he would wish to stay after the abuse he got from fans.

Dykes too, another one that turned up every week apart from when seriously unwell and still got pelters himself. He was not that bad to be fair, always put in a shift, and again would blame the move being wished for, because unfair treatment from fans.

Both Dickie and Dykes been decent servants for our club.

Again it's a case with both, be careful what you wish for.

Never understood why Dickie was so highly rated, he has zero pace, not aggressive enough and quiet as a church mouse, so I'd grab £1.8m for him. Has looked like a rabbit in the headlights for the past 18 months. I'm a bit old school when it comes to centre backs though, win the ball and take the man as well.

Rather ironic that a development club like us ( ) are selling Dickie to an actual development club. Be interesting to see what happens to him when he's working with some proper coaches.

 

Interesting that a Championship club with an experienced manager want to sign Dickie. He was very poor last season but we can only assume that Pearson thinks it was a drop in form that can be rectified under good management.

It also suggests that perhaps the view in the wider football world is that we’re a bit of a basket case of a club and not to judge last season’s individual player performances too harshly.

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2 minutes ago, David Brent said:

Not too bothered if QPR fans rate him or not. We still have fans who don’t rate Vyner. 

Think vyner was so poor before last season , now he’s had a decent season some fans think he’s class; still think we can get better 

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22 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

He's never been poor. What held him back was his proneness to make mistakes/lose concentration. 

If you judge him on the one second it takes to make an error rather than the other 89:59 then yeah, he was "so poor". Or you can see what our coaches have seen, that if he was to eradicated the errors you'd be left with one of the best technical defenders at the club, an excellent progressive dribbler (for his position) and a composed, clever and professional player who cost us nothing. 

As ever, influenced solely by the result and trying to reverse engineer that result to write off an individual. Why we can't just be a bit more balanced is anyones guess. 

I’ve been totally balanced, up until last season he was poor, he didn’t cost us nothing, ( wages )  he was very lucky we didn’t have the scope to bring anybody else in , fair play to the lad he had a good season, but still think we can get better 

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43 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

He's never been poor. What held him back was his proneness to make mistakes/lose concentration. 

If you judge him on the one second it takes to make an error rather than the other 89:59 then yeah, he was "so poor". Or you can see what our coaches have seen, that if he was to eradicated the errors you'd be left with one of the best technical defenders at the club, an excellent progressive dribbler (for his position) and a composed, clever and professional player who cost us nothing. 

As ever, influenced solely by the result and trying to reverse engineer that result to write off an individual. Why we can't just be a bit more balanced is anyones guess. 

I’m influenced by my eyes, he was poor in previous seasons, in my opinion of course, which you don’t seem to understand 

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45 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

He's never been poor. What held him back was his proneness to make mistakes/lose concentration. 

If you judge him on the one second it takes to make an error rather than the other 89:59 then yeah, he was "so poor". Or you can see what our coaches have seen, that if he was to eradicated the errors you'd be left with one of the best technical defenders at the club, an excellent progressive dribbler (for his position) and a composed, clever and professional player who cost us nothing. 

As ever, influenced solely by the result and trying to reverse engineer that result to write off an individual. Why we can't just be a bit more balanced is anyones guess. 

just out of interest what players do you think have been poor over the last couple of seasons?

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It's mad to think if Cundy had signed a new contract before last season he would have probably been the starting CB ahead of Vyner. I'm happy with Vyner right now, I am glad he is starting to show his ability. If we get Rob Dickie as well we will have Vyner, Atkinson, and Kalas (Maybe), not forgetting we are still being linked to the Palace guy.

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12 hours ago, WECANDO said:

Not forgetting Low who has just been selected for the Welsh national side.

I imagine Low will be heading on loan again next season. Would be nice to get a League 1 loan however may have to settle with League 2. I think Joe Low can still make it but I think he's just going to have to wait a while a bit like Vyner for example. I think Vyner got his first opportunity towards the end of the 19/20 season where he played a few games before featuring for a whole season in 2020/21 (Correct me if I'm wrong) and then first properly became a reliable player this season. When Vyner had his first opportunity he would have been around 23 towards the end of the 19/20 season and Joe Low is 21. I know things can change and it doesn't always work out like that but I think he still has a chance to make it I think the next couple of years are important in terms of what level he is playing and doing well at. 

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Zak had had successful progressive loans at Accrington (L2), Plymouth (L1) and a full season at Rotherham (Champ) before getting his first real chance with City at the end of the covid season.  He’d had a few sporadic appearances before that.  I always thought he had a good chance here.

Joe has just come off the back of a poor loan at Walsall (L2).  The trajectory is very different.  I’m a bit down on him, because I’ve just not seen anything currently that gives me much confidence he will be a Champ CB in the next 12 months.  My fears about the translation of his game at u21 to senior at this stage have played out.

That is not to say he won’t make it (here), just that I think he’s currently miles off.  If he can grow into his sizeable frame then who knows.  Another loan needed, or even move him (with Araoye and Knight-Lebel pushing) with a good sell-on like we have done with Towler.

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1 minute ago, Jimbo123 said:

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-qpr-rob-dickie-22609693

"According to The Athletic, Burnley, Southampton, West Ham United and Wolverhampton Wanderers have also been keeping tabs on the highly-rated centre-back.

The source claim that if QPR decide to sell Dickie in the winter market then they're likely to demand in excess of £10m, which would only be the fifth time they've sold someone for that sum of money in the club's history."

Only a year ago. Madness.

This has to be some of the most shrewd business ever 

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Class bit of business that, someone that would be worth 5x as much or more a couple of years ago. Only reason he lost value/declined in form imo was because of the manager roulette QPR were playing. Hopefully he can get back to playing his best football with nige ?

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3 minutes ago, ollywhyte said:

This is the sort of business we should have been doing years ago. 
 

Never been so confident in a manager just wish we had him years ago. I like how we go under the radar as well, fancied by no one.

If fairness we didnt have the money years ago with too many high earners on the books NP has done a great job

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4 minutes ago, ollywhyte said:

This is the sort of business we should have been doing years ago. 
 

Never been so confident in a manager just wish we had him years ago. I like how we go under the radar as well, fancied by no one.

100% agree, most still see him as the grumpy old man in charge of Leicester but personally I can’t remember the last time I had so much excitement/confidence about a new season. Clear plans. Clear goals. Clear direction.

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1 minute ago, Jimbo123 said:

We did sort of in a sense with Webster, he was a player who lost his way a bit at a Championship club and we took advantage of that, albeit slightly more expensively.

I'm very happy with this though.

To be fair for once to the old regime we sold Flint for a reported £7m and signed Webster - a massive upgrade - for around half of that.

If all our business had been that smart who knows what might have been?

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1 minute ago, chinapig said:

To be fair for once to the old regime we sold Flint for a reported £7m and signed Webster - a massive upgrade - for around half of that.

If all our business had been that smart who knows what might have been?

We got 7m for Aden Flint????

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Great news once confirmed, Twitter saying: Bristol City have agreed a £1million fee (some on here suggest it’s less than that) for QPR defender, Rob Dickie. Personal terms have been agreed, and he has completed his medical.

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2 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Great news once confirmed, Twitter saying: Bristol City have agreed a £1million fee (some on here suggest it’s less than that) for QPR defender, Rob Dickie. Personal terms have been agreed, and he has completed his medical.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/bristol-city-agree-seven-figure-deal-for-qpr-player-as-medical-lined-up/

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1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

£1m for Dickie seems quite good, for us. Experienced but still under 30

One report suggested QPR wanted him to stay but he wouldn't sign a new deal. Did he play with Atkinson at Oxford? I know he is out until the Autumn but that could help him settle in too.

No, they swapped out that year I believe, Sykes was there though.

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51 minutes ago, petehinton said:

QPR end saying fee is £700k….wow. Incredible business by the club 

Was this tweet?

I was gonna ask them where the extra £200k came from…McGrath quoting £1m (inc add-ons).

Looks like a case of selling club adding some pounds on to appease the fan base!

19 minutes ago, George Rs said:

We got 7m for Aden Flint????

Yep.

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This strikes me as a Kalas replacement signing. With Dickie we would have him, Vyner, Atkinson and Naismith all fighting for 2 CB roles (assuming we aren't going back to a 3). All would expect to be starting. Throw Kalas into the mix and we have at least one too many senior CBs to keep everyone happy. If we sign O'Brien too then I would expect him to be playing back up at the moment. 
 

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5 minutes ago, Dredd said:

This strikes me as a Kalas replacement signing. With Dickie we would have him, Vyner, Atkinson and Naismith all fighting for 2 CB roles (assuming we aren't going back to a 3). All would expect to be starting. Throw Kalas into the mix and we have at least one too many senior CBs to keep everyone happy. If we sign O'Brien too then I would expect him to be playing back up at the moment. 
 

Yep, I reckon Kalas off, which would be a shame.

5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Just noticed that he may know Cam Pring too, from their Cheltenham days.

Think @Harry and crew watched Dickie around that time.

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A lot of the comments I'm reading about him are quite negative, I know it could be sour grapes but comments like 

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No pace & a very fragile mentality. Can only play in a 3 as well. Had high hopes for the lad, but after 3 years, didn't see enough to be upset at him leaving.

does surprise me as even if we sold Kalas who has barely played and probably cost us a small fortune I don't think I'd have much negative to say about him. Are we essentially doing what Middlesbrough did with us by buying a player they thought was only improving but in fact had just p[eaked and was about to decline? I'm not saying this is the case but more asking if it is as I don't know Dickie that well but I do find it odd that QPR would sell him at an age where I think CB's tend to begin their best years for as little as £1m?

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3 minutes ago, Spike said:

A lot of the comments I'm reading about him are quite negative, I know it could be sour grapes but comments like 

does surprise me as even if we sold Kalas who has barely played and probably cost us a small fortune I don't think I'd have much negative to say about him. Are we essentially doing what Middlesbrough did with us by buying a player they thought was only improving but in fact had just p[eaked and was about to decline? I'm not saying this is the case but more asking if it is as I don't know Dickie that well but I do find it odd that QPR would sell him at an age where I think CB's tend to begin their best years for as little as £1m?

He’s OOC next season, isn’t signing a new one and has asked to leave. I wouldn’t listen to anything QPR fans say tbh. They are in free fall and it’s a toxic place atm.  
 

Would much rather listen to reputable journalists’ descriptions of him, such as….

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48 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said:

Dickie and Sykes both started the league 1 playoff final. Sykes was midfield I believe

 

36 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Think this one may be even more important to the team than Bryan and McCrorie, though I'm keen on all three. Hoping for an announcement today ?

Saw him at Loftus Road, rangy, nasty, gurt bastard. Just what we need. We've been too nice for decades. BCFCGav says this could be the important signing, I totally agree, especially If he's mates with Sykes, he's definitely got the nasty in him. Speaking to my window cleaner whose from Belfast. He told me Sykes if from the toughest part of Belfast. Explains a lot.

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Just now, petehinton said:

He’s OOC next season, isn’t signing a new one and has asked to leave. I wouldn’t listen to anything QPR fans say tbh. They are in free fall and it’s a toxic place atm.  
 

Would much rather listen to reputable journalists’ descriptions of him, such as….

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I went to Fevs Football Analytics and looking at his analytics on him I think you could be right about the QPR fans, although the "only play in a back 3" concerns me as I was hoping we'd moved away from a back 3 so I'm hoping they are wrong. That aside the stats look good to me, he's tall, and has experience, I 'm really hoping it is just sour grapes from the QPR fans.

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5 minutes ago, Spike said:

A lot of the comments I'm reading about him are quite negative, I know it could be sour grapes but comments like 

does surprise me as even if we sold Kalas who has barely played and probably cost us a small fortune I don't think I'd have much negative to say about him. Are we essentially doing what Middlesbrough did with us by buying a player they thought was only improving but in fact had just p[eaked and was about to decline? I'm not saying this is the case but more asking if it is as I don't know Dickie that well but I do find it odd that QPR would sell him at an age where I think CB's tend to begin their best years for as little as £1m?

A-typical selling club fan’s view, and recency bias.

QPR played a back 4 for 60% of 20/21 season (Dickie alongside Barbet)…but did play back 3 in 21/22 all season.  At Oxford in 19/20 he played in a back 4 (with Mousinho) and that earned his move to QPR for £2.5m

Reasons for selling (some factual, some my speculation):

  • one year left on his contract, doesn’t want to sign a new deal
  • QPR are skint, need to trade
  • Ainsworth style of football not to his wishes
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8 minutes ago, petehinton said:

He’s OOC next season, isn’t signing a new one and has asked to leave. I wouldn’t listen to anything QPR fans say tbh. They are in free fall and it’s a toxic place atm.  
 

Would much rather listen to reputable journalists’ descriptions of him, such as….

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Nothing more frightening that a marauding Dickie!

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7 minutes ago, Spike said:

A lot of the comments I'm reading about him are quite negative, I know it could be sour grapes but comments like 

does surprise me as even if we sold Kalas who has barely played and probably cost us a small fortune I don't think I'd have much negative to say about him. Are we essentially doing what Middlesbrough did with us by buying a player they thought was only improving but in fact had just p[eaked and was about to decline? I'm not saying this is the case but more asking if it is as I don't know Dickie that well but I do find it odd that QPR would sell him at an age where I think CB's tend to begin their best years for as little as £1m?

Fair questions.

But he was their player of the season a year or two ago, some of them have short memories.

Also, he was playing in an awful team on a dreadful run of form with three managers in and out the door and he didn't want to stay there.

I'll be ignoring anything from their supporters and trust in the fact their current manager wanted him to stay and our management appear to know what they are doing.

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9 minutes ago, Spike said:

I went to Fevs Football Analytics and looking at his analytics on him I think you could be right about the QPR fans, although the "only play in a back 3" concerns me as I was hoping we'd moved away from a back 3 so I'm hoping they are wrong. That aside the stats look good to me, he's tall, and has experience, I 'm really hoping it is just sour grapes from the QPR fans.

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Could we be moving back to a 3? Would also suit Joe Bryan? Tanner might need some adjusting to it but it also suits Wilson

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1 minute ago, Winterstoke toad said:

Haven’t read this whole thread so not sure if mentioned before but does anyone else think we could be switching back to 3 at the back with wing backs . Dickie is apparently at his best in a 3 and with the supposed signing of Bryan could pring play cb/ compete for wingback with Bryan .

By signing versatile players it means we can swap formations quite easily. E.g You can have Pring LCB and Bryan LWB or Pring LB and Bryan LM

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So basically QPR aren't that bothered after a poor season or so which coincides with their whole team being dreadful. Regardless of their opinnions I would much rather trust professional scouts and NP who is aware since he's been here how to turn that around. Atkinson, Vyner, McCrorie and Dickie as options at the back as well as Pring and Naismith is very good. Quite excited!

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27 minutes ago, Spike said:

A lot of the comments I'm reading about him are quite negative, I know it could be sour grapes but comments like 

Happens at every club.  Look at some of the comments on Massengo's thread. 

Some fans forget players can develop and thrive in some teams more than others (all depends on the management, coaching, atmosphere in the squad etc etc plus how they/family settle in the area). 

He could get back to his best here (or not), same as every player that struggles when they leave us.

Too many fans have a narrow Football Manager game mentality.

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1 minute ago, Dredd said:

Could we be moving back to a 3? Would also suit Joe Bryan? Tanner might need some adjusting to it but it also suits Wilson

I really hope not, 3-5-2/5-3-2 requires certain things:

1) Strikers who can win crosses and feed off of crosses rather than passes to feet. - We don't have any
2) Central midfielders who can drive at players or make passes through the middle that split defenses - We don't have any
3) Very high-quality wing backs who can not only cross but can do the defensive side effectively. - Pring, Tanner to a degree.
4) Strikers who look to make the run off of the shoulder of the defender in a central position - We have a couple but we're missing the players to make the passes to them (2)
5) Center Backs who are comfortable on the ball and not too relaxed when put under pressure. - Vyner had a better season but when pressured was still making dangerous passes or mistakes, Atkinson can do this so long as he's fit and we're yet to see Dickie in that position should he sign.

All in all I feel the reason we never made 3-5-2/ 5-3-2 work was because we didn't have the threatening passes through the middle of the pitch so the opposition knew we'd work it wide and cross in where we had next to no strikers who feed off of high crosses, so instead we'd try cutbacks and low fast crosses which were very hit and miss. If I was playing against us in a 3-5-2/5-3-2 I'd have Pring marked tightly, keep Scott from receiving the ball by prioritising passing lanes to him being blocked off and short of a fast counter City would be toothless. I'd also target Vyner if he wasn't playing in the middle of the back 3 because in that RCB role his positioning is pulled out far too easily which leaves gaps behind him. One of the best changes Perason made was going back to a flat 4 as Vyner positions himself better with a right back next to him rather than pushing up the wing, he looks both sides and essentially sits in the middle of the Right Back and Center Back, but when he's in that 3 and the RWB pushes high he begins to come central, too close to the cental CB which opens a pocket for the opposition to counter in.

If we go back to the back 3 I think Pring will also end up being the LCB if we bring Bryan back which IMO would be such a waste as when he's allowed to go forward and push towards players he is a handful and will only get better should he be allowed to do it more.

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