Davefevs Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Yeah, it's a different world. I'd not be best chuffed that this potential approach to be taken back on the books came 4 games into the season. At least in Andi's case, it was resolved fairly rapidly. Given the time, I'd suggest Kalas's agent was actively touting his man around whereas perhaps with Weimann it was more of a bargaining position that didn't pay dividends - or perhaps did, we aren't privy to his pay discussions. Dickie is back soon, we also have Atkinson to return and younger defenders who can plug the gap. Naismith is not ideal in that role, but we know both he and King have played there as a stop-gap. At least Andi was sorted out before 30th June expiry (even Bakes was too). This has dragged on too long. Not so sure re Naismith. He ended the season (last 3 games) playing LCB with ZV in a back 4 and was pretty good imho. It also helped Pring go back to LB where we benefitted from his bursts forward. On a completely “hindsight aside” () although Dickie has looked good at LCB2, could the his passing / positioning angles have slightly affected Pring? I guess we might find out on Friday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: At least Andi was sorted out before 30th June expiry (even Bakes was too). This has dragged on too long. Not so sure re Naismith. He ended the season (last 3 games) playing LCB with ZV in a back 4 and was pretty good imho. It also helped Pring go back to LB where we benefitted from his bursts forward. On a completely “hindsight aside” () although Dickie has looked good at LCB2, could the his passing / positioning angles have slightly affected Pring? I guess we might find out on Friday. Pring is a really good full-back when being given the space to go forward, but on the back foot for too long, there's a mistake or three in him. With Naismith I prefer him as a DM, allowing Williams a bit more freedom to make his mark further up. As you know I'd prefer a new advanced central midfielder altogether (as would you, I believe). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Pring is a really good full-back when being given the space to go forward, but on the back foot for too long, there's a mistake or three in him. With Naismith I prefer him as a DM, allowing Williams a bit more freedom to make his mark further up. As you know I'd prefer a new advanced central midfielder altogether (as would you, I believe). Although not a no10, I’d probably use the term an attack-minded CM. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: Personally, if one of my guys came to me and said "Boss, I'm going to leave. I can get more money elsewhere" then two months later came back and said "Can I have my old job back? No one wanted me" I'd not re-employ him. This seems particularly harsh! Surely it was more like, ”So, Tomas, do you want to stay, we’d like you to… “ ”Great, yes please, I’m happy here” ”Fine, how does 50% of your current pay sound” ”Ah, well, perhaps I’d better check if that’s the best available first “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, Leveller said: This seems particularly harsh! Surely it was more like, ”So, Tomas, do you want to stay, we’d like you to… “ ”Great, yes please, I’m happy here” ”Fine, how does 50% of your current pay sound” ”Ah, well, perhaps I’d better check if that’s the best available first “ The fact that City are reducing their wage bill cannot be a surprise to Tomas. No issue with anyone seeking better terms, but it would've helped his cause if he'd done that weeks ago, rather than coming back after the season has started and a replacement has been bought and saying "Sorry, it appears I can't earn what my agent said I could". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 29 minutes ago, Leveller said: This seems particularly harsh! Surely it was more like, ”So, Tomas, do you want to stay, we’d like you to… “ ”Great, yes please, I’m happy here” ”Fine, how does 50% of your current pay sound” ”Ah, well, perhaps I’d better check if that’s the best available first “ Completely reasonable response. However his contract ran out on June 30th, his month’s pay in lieu of notice ran out on July 31st and next week it will be September. He’s therefore had plenty of time to evaluate the market & we are within our rights to withdraw the offer (in reality we probably already had) & move on. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 44 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Completely reasonable response. However his contract ran out on June 30th, his month’s pay in lieu of notice ran out on July 31st and next week it will be September. He’s therefore had plenty of time to evaluate the market & we are within our rights to withdraw the offer (in reality we probably already had) & move on. Sure, but it would also be completely reasonable if he came back now and accepted the offer. But I’m sure he will now move on and better our reduced offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, Leveller said: Sure, but it would also be completely reasonable if he came back now and accepted the offer. But I’m sure he will now move on and better our reduced offer. The offer made was likely made on the proviso that he signed before pre-season started so that he could be up to speed. For, every day that passed after pre-season started would have theoretically reduced the offer on the table. Bit of a shame in some respects, not in others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 22, 2023 Admin Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 21/08/2023 at 09:12, Riaz said: One tweet. It aint happening IMO I was just thinking the same, how a fake tweet has woken everyone up again He's long gone into the sunset 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just now, phantom said: I was just thinking the same, how a fake tweet has woken everyone up again He's long gone into the sunset Especially as his number 22 has gone to our latest signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, phantom said: I was just thinking the same, how a fake tweet has woken everyone up again He's long gone into the sunset I don’t think anyone was fooled by Robins Hub’s tweet! Just sparked more conversation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I don’t think anyone was fooled by Robins Hub’s tweet! Just sparked more conversation. A lot of people were! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 You really do have to wander what Kalas and HNM are up to at this point 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, Club and Country said: You really do have to wander what Kalas and HNM are up to at this point The HNM one is interesting - I don’t know the answer here but unlike Kalas we still have a financial “interest” as we should be compensated by his next club. So is it a case of that compensation reduces/is removed if he doesn’t get a club for x period? @Davefevs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, Club and Country said: You really do have to wander what Kalas and HNM are up to at this point Waiting for clubs to get desperate after deadline day, I suspect. More understandable in Kalas case, being older, where money is more important than career choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 25 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: The HNM one is interesting - I don’t know the answer here but unlike Kalas we still have a financial “interest” as we should be compensated by his next club. So is it a case of that compensation reduces/is removed if he doesn’t get a club for x period? @Davefevs? 12 months, I believe. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: 12 months, I believe. Correct. It becomes nil at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Club and Country said: You really do have to wander what Kalas and HNM are up to at this point Lots of rumours with HNM that his father (& I believe now his agent) is far too involved in his career & has been rejecting offers trying to get the highest wages, this doesn’t look so smart now every major European league has kicked off & he still doesn’t have a club. Edited August 22, 2023 by GrahamC 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 14 hours ago, GrahamC said: Lots of rumours with HNM that his father (& I believe now his agent) is far too involved in his career & has been rejecting offers trying to get the highest wages, this doesn’t look so smart now every major European league has kicked off & he still doesn’t have a club. I think it's a shame. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: I think it's a shame. Get him back to AG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 22 hours ago, GrahamC said: Lots of rumours with HNM that his father (& I believe now his agent) is far too involved in his career & has been rejecting offers trying to get the highest wages, this doesn’t look so smart now every major European league has kicked off & he still doesn’t have a club. Nearly, but a lot more selfish than trying to get HNM the highest wage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 56 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Nearly, but a lot more selfish than trying to get HNM the highest wage Trying to get himself the highest agent's fee? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) It seems Kalas is about to join Schalke as per this report Edited August 26, 2023 by RedEyez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 Interesting one. Schalke are crap at the moment, but presumably still paying well. Very short Ryanair flight to Koln from Bristol too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Good move, although in Bundesliga 2, they are a massive club, just like SV Hamburg, also inexplicably in the second tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Good luck Tomas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 That is a decent move for him. If he stays free of injury he could get subject to how Schalke are run Bundesliga football too this time next year. Good luck Tomas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 What a great move for him ! Best of luck to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 39 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Interesting one. Schalke are crap at the moment, but presumably still paying well. Very short Ryanair flight to Koln from Bristol too! I watched their game yesterday and they were indeed dreadful. Big club, big stadium, big support. Great move for Tomas, he can only make them better. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just been confirmed by Sky Germany, he’s signed a two year deal & will wear number 26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Great move for him, surely only upwards for that massive club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Just been confirmed by Sky Germany, he’s signed a two year deal & will wear number 26. Yup. Best of luck to him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Shit 04!!! Why Tomas, why?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 24 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Shit 04!!! Why Tomas, why?? Dortmund fan I assume? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Wow fair shout- big big club, amazing stadium…. Patience paid off for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, chinapig said: Dortmund fan I assume? Hell yeah. Scheisse nul vier. Poor Tomas, what a come down! BCFC and BvB. ️️ Edited August 26, 2023 by Ska Junkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Good move for him. He was good for us overall I would say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) Great move for him tbf Edited August 26, 2023 by Club and Country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Can’t knock that, big club, presumably decent money and a standard where he’ll continue to look a solid player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 On 22/08/2023 at 15:47, Leveller said: Sure, but it would also be completely reasonable if he came back now and accepted the offer. But I’m sure he will now move on and better our reduced offer. Pleased he’s got a good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Ska Junkie said: Hell yeah. Scheisse nul vier. Poor Tomas, what a come down! BCFC and BvB. ️️ I've been to Gelsenkirchen and it’s not a place you'd want to spend much time in. The Ruhrgebeit is basically the Welsh Valleys. Slag heaps still present from the industrial era. But the same applies to Dortmund. Good luck to Tomas, I assume part of the appeal is a 1 hour drive to Koln Airport, 1hr 15m flight to Bristol, and 10m taxi to Long Ashton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, KegCity said: a standard where he’ll continue to look a solid player. Bundesliga 2! I should bloody hope he will. He's basically gone to play for Derby or Pompey, a big club at a shit level, just because they've offered to pay him loads of money. So his Instagram was, after all, a window to his soul - it's all about the money, the glamour, the expensive holidays, the cars. And the teeth. Edited August 26, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Bundesliga 2 is probably though I don't watch it that often, seen it a few times in the past, the closest equivalent to the Championship of the European 2nd tiers. Has a host of medium to big clubs too again a similarity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Bundesliga 2! I should bloody hope he will. He's basically gone to play for Derby or Pompey, a big club at a shit level, just because they've offered to pay him loads of money. So his Instagram was, after all, a window to his soul - it's all about the money, the glamour, the expensive holidays, the cars. And the teeth. Would argue its more like signing for Leeds than the clubs you mention, Schalke are a massive club and have far more significance than us historically. Can't knock Kalas for taking the opportunity over sitting on our bench on 50% of the wages 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said: Would argue its more like signing for Leeds than the clubs you mention, Schalke are a massive club and have far more significance than us historically. Can't knock Kalas for taking the opportunity over sitting on our bench on 50% of the wages Yep, in terms of the number of members they are the second biggest club in Germany and their stadium capacity is over 60k. Why wouldn't he choose them over us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 46 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: I've been to Gelsenkirchen and it’s not a place you'd want to spend much time in. The Ruhrgebeit is basically the Welsh Valleys. Slag heaps still present from the industrial era. But the same applies to Dortmund. Good luck to Tomas, I assume part of the appeal is a 1 hour drive to Koln Airport, 1hr 15m flight to Bristol, and 10m taxi to Long Ashton. I expect their better paid players live somewhere nice. Not an expert on that part of Germany but there will be somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said: Would argue its more like signing for Leeds than the clubs you mention, Schalke are a massive club and have far more significance than us historically. Can't knock Kalas for taking the opportunity over sitting on our bench on 50% of the wages Yes. Let's not quibble about the choice of example club. That's not the point I'm making. He'd rather go to a shit standard of football because of the money than play in the Championship. Fair enough. Thanks. Don't rush back. Edited August 26, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 55 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Bundesliga 2 is probably though I don't watch it that often, seen it a few times in the past, the closest equivalent to the Championship of the European 2nd tiers. Has a host of medium to big clubs too again a similarity. Schalke have had crowds of 60,000+ for their first 2 home games of the season. Crazy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 My word his agent must be laughing. I’m actually happy this has been sorted and we don’t have to think about him. Decent yeah, but not for the money he’s worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Massive club. Will aim to keep an eye out and see how things go. Best of luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) Kalas was great pre injuries, especially in the loan season alongside Webster. Two promotions two playoffs in 4 seasons at this level, prior to joining us and played very nicely v Man City..injury kinda wrecked him a bit here. International for a midranking European team too- if not for injuries etc. Edited August 26, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 8 hours ago, petehinton said: Schalke have had crowds of 60,000+ for their first 2 home games of the season. Crazy. SV Hamburg regularly have 50,000, too. Germany is really the only country in Europe apart from England where aside from an occasional outlier (like Bordeaux) you get consistent huge attendances outside of the top flight. Just had a look at the sides in it this season, apart from Hamburg & Schalke there’s the likes of Hertha Berlin, Fortuna Düsseldorf, Kaiserslautern, Hansa Rostock, St. Pauli & Hannover. It’s a pretty decent league. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Bundesliga 2 is probably though I don't watch it that often, seen it a few times in the past, the closest equivalent to the Championship of the European 2nd tiers. Has a host of medium to big clubs too again a similarity. According to globalfootballrankings.com, (I have no idea of their quality of assessment), for last season The Championship was ranked 11th globally, and Bundesliga 2 was ranked 14th. These were consecutively the highest ranked tier two leagues. League One was ranked 28th. I doubt if there is very much difference in Tomas Kalas joining Schalke and a top half Championship side. Edited August 27, 2023 by Sleepy1968 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 14 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Bundesliga 2! I should bloody hope he will. He's basically gone to play for Derby or Pompey, a big club at a shit level, just because they've offered to pay him loads of money. So his Instagram was, after all, a window to his soul - it's all about the money, the glamour, the expensive holidays, the cars. And the teeth. My dentist mate reckons his dentist told him to move abroad so's he won't have his face rearranged by Marley Watkins again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Yes. Let's not quibble about the choice of example club. That's not the point I'm making. He'd rather go to a shit standard of football because of the money than play in the Championship. Fair enough. Thanks. Don't rush back. What are you so wound up about? We offered him a contract, he didn't accept it, then went elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said: My dentist mate reckons his dentist told him to move abroad so's he won't have his face rearranged by Marley Watkins again Sound advice, I reckon. 2 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: What are you so wound up about? We offered him a contract, he didn't accept it, then went elsewhere. Chill mate, just a little joshing. He does have lovely teeth, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 15 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: I've been to Gelsenkirchen and it’s not a place you'd want to spend much time in. The Ruhrgebeit is basically the Welsh Valleys. Slag heaps still present from the industrial era. But the same applies to Dortmund. Good luck to Tomas, I assume part of the appeal is a 1 hour drive to Koln Airport, 1hr 15m flight to Bristol, and 10m taxi to Long Ashton. I don't disagree, neither town / city is particularly appealing. Matchday in Dortmund is electric though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Personally disappointed in him , we made him our captain and stood by him through his injuries and he was our highest paid player , we also stopped his merry go round of loans . Unless his new deal was absolute peanuts ( which I doubt it was ) thought he could have given us another year at least . then if he stayed fit and backed his ability could then have gone back to the board and demanded more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, redkev said: Personally disappointed in him , we made him our captain and stood by him through his injuries and he was our highest paid player , we also stopped his merry go round of loans . Unless his new deal was absolute peanuts ( which I doubt it was ) thought he could have given us another year at least . then if he stayed fit and backed his ability could then have gone back to the board and demanded more On a relative scale I imagine was on KP Brand Honey Roasted nuts, and was offered Asda own brand salted. I can’t comment on actuals but on here we’ve read he was on £25k p.w and got offered somewhere between £7.5-10k p.w. No idea on term. FWIW I’m not disappointed in him. Timing of contract expiry versus downturn in wages we can offer is a lot to do with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 58 minutes ago, Davefevs said: On a relative scale I imagine was on KP Brand Honey Roasted nuts, and was offered Asda own brand salted. I can’t comment on actuals but on here we’ve read he was on £25k p.w and got offered somewhere between £7.5-10k p.w. No idea on term. FWIW I’m not disappointed in him. Timing of contract expiry versus downturn in wages we can offer is a lot to do with it. Being a bit old fashioned me Dave and lifelong city fan , I thought a bit of loyalty / thanks might have come into it - how silly of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuffle Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, redkev said: Being a bit old fashioned me Dave and lifelong city fan , I thought a bit of loyalty / thanks might have come into it - how silly of me Unfortunately the fans are the only ones loyal. I would have loved him to stay as a top defender for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, redkev said: Being a bit old fashioned me Dave and lifelong city fan , I thought a bit of loyalty / thanks might have come into it - how silly of me No such thing as loyalty these days on modern football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Albeit Thomason stayed at Bolton and Murphy has not yet officially left St Pats to join us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, redkev said: Being a bit old fashioned me Dave and lifelong city fan , I thought a bit of loyalty / thanks might have come into it - how silly of me I guess the point I’m making is would you stay loyal for a wage half to a third (allegedly) from what you’ve been on? There is a case on both or neither side??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Just now, Davefevs said: I guess the point I’m making is would you stay loyal for a wage half to a third (allegedly) from what you’ve been on? There is a case on both or neither side??? Depends on what you can get elsewhere. We’ll never know the figures exactly but if our offer was circa £10k a week (not unlikely) & Schalke have offered him 2 years (which they definitely have) on £12k a week then you can understand him. If Schalke have gone above that figure then anyone with any sense would snap their hands off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 minute ago, GrahamC said: Depends on what you can get elsewhere. We’ll never know the figures exactly but if our offer was circa £10k a week (not unlikely) & Schalke have offered him 2 years (which they definitely have) on £12k a week then you can understand him. If Schalke have gone above that figure then anyone with any sense would snap their hands off. I heard we’d offered him around £7k a week. If that’s true, I’m not surprised he didn’t rush to sign it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 52 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I guess the point I’m making is would you stay loyal for a wage half to a third (allegedly) from what you’ve been on? There is a case on both or neither side??? I know what your saying and tend to agree , but it might also depend what my employer had done for me whilst I was there and how much I needed the money 1 hour ago, Clevedon Red said: No such thing as loyalty these days on modern football. Think we all know that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Depends on what you can get elsewhere. We’ll never know the figures exactly but if our offer was circa £10k a week (not unlikely) & Schalke have offered him 2 years (which they definitely have) on £12k a week then you can understand him. If Schalke have gone above that figure then anyone with any sense would snap their hands off. Would Schalke have offered him £12k per week? We know they're a well supported club but they're also a club in decline so do we know where they stand financially? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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