RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Big Dunc has left his job as manager of Forest Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 The Icelandic Big Dunc I assssssssssssume! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Was always going to be a car crash, the only shock is that he wasn't gone as soon as the season finished, they've wasted 6 weeks of planning time for a new manager 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Tbf to forest greens chairman probably took six weeks to get the bottle to make that call, I think he would be a decent manager at the right club, 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 32 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The Icelandic Big Dunc I assssssssssssume! Yes, the one with the daughter Evie Fergusdottir. Otherwise just a stupid spelling mistake. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Some off the most aggressive player's have made the calmest managers over the years, can imagine he's got a bit of presence as a person, like to see him get another chance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Seems bizarre waiting until to part company, unless something has happened in the last few days. Makes it hard for the new Manager to settle in and get started . Anyway, Paddy Power posted this as.... Big Dunc as soon as he gets out of FGR. Made me smile. 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 He did say he was going vegan I recall! I think the writing was on the wall for fgr at that level a few weeks in tbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Job for…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, steveybadger said: Job for…… I'm having a pound each way on Gwyneth paltrow, or Morrissey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, steveybadger said: Job for…… Lampard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Seems bizarre waiting until to part company, unless something has happened in the last few days. Makes it hard for the new Manager to settle in and get started . Anyway, Paddy Power posted this as.... Big Dunc as soon as he gets out of FGR. Made me smile. Might have been caught eating a kebab? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, steveybadger said: Job for…… Would love to see Cotts and Alby back local. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Would love to see Cotts and Alby back local. Dos feel like a good fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Would love to see Cotts and Alby back local. Me too. Think Vince backs his managers with far more funds than their rather tiny crowds deserve, if he’s given a few quid & some time he’d do a great job. Gloucestershire is home to him, as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 4, 2023 Admin Share Posted July 4, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 54 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: I'm having a pound each way on Gwyneth paltrow, or Morrissey You'd get long odds on Kevin Bacon. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, steveybadger said: Job for…… Wade Elliott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 34 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: You'd get long odds on Kevin Bacon. More chance getting biffa bacon...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Would love to see Cotts and Alby back local. Me too, FGR being my nearest team geographicly - the name getting the most mentions on their forums is Darrell Clarke. With Dale Vince though he always likes a curve ball and it could well be someone we've never heard of. Their DoF is only recently appointed this summer from Brentford - Allan Steele - quite a young guy who was Brentford's B team technical coach, maybe he has some input into the change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, CodeRed said: Me too, FGR being my nearest team geographicly - the name getting the most mentions on their forums is Darrell Clarke. With Dale Vince though he always likes a curve ball and it could well be someone we've never heard of. Their DoF is only recently appointed this summer from Brentford - Allan Steele - quite a young guy who was Brentford's B team technical coach, maybe he has some input into the change. interesting Neil MacFarlane a possibility then? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_MacFarlane_(footballer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 hours ago, steveybadger said: Job for…… Sven Quorn Eriksson ? 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said: Sven Quorn Eriksson ? Kevin Vegan…? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Davey Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, glynriley said: Kevin Vegan…? Pat Rice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Gareth Hay Bale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Clarence Seedorf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Very odd in some ways. FGR asked permission to speak to the Forfar manager Ray McKinnon, back end of last week with a view to him working with Big Dunc. McKinnon is rated as a good coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Roy Quinoa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Everton will take him back in some capacity soon enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, ScottishRed said: Very odd in some ways. FGR asked permission to speak to the Forfar manager Ray McKinnon, back end of last week with a view to him working with Big Dunc. McKinnon is rated as a good coach. Seems likely it’s a disagreement with the board then. As someone who did not grow up watching him as a player, I’m failing to see the fascination with Big Dunc as a manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) Seems a bit odd on the timings. Vince has previously said he’s committed to Ferguson’s 5 year contract!! But there’s been a lot of change at FGR since his appointment. Steve Grieve was the DoF and he left in March. James Mooney was the COO and he left in May. Terry McPhilliips came in as the new Chief Scout. I’m 100% sure this was a Ferguson appointment as McPhillips is a mate of Tony Grant (Ferguson’s assistant). That suggested to me that they were still “all in” on Ferguson. As he was being allowed to bring in his own recruitment staff. Then, a new CEO arrives from New Zealand and a new DoF from Brentford. I think these 2 new figures have very differing views to Duncan’s and I think something must have happened behind the scenes in the last day or two to force their hand. Possibly a difference of opinion on recruitment I’d guess. I’d imagine, if they haven’t already, that Grant and McPhillips will also be leaving, as Dunc brought them both in. And so, for the 3rd time in a year, it’s back to the drawing board for FGR. I really enjoyed watching that L2 promotion team, a little over 14 months ago and now it’s all gone to pot! And their current squad will struggle in L2. They need a new manager and a new recruitment plan asap! Edited July 4, 2023 by Harry 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Can’t think of many worse times to sack a manager than halfway through the second week of pre season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, marcofisher said: Seems likely it’s a disagreement with the board then. As someone who did not grow up watching him as a player, I’m failing to see the fascination with Big Dunc as a manager. As someone who I suspect is a good deal older than you and followed his career closely as a Scot, I think it’s fair to say Big Dunc was a ‘character’. He had a decent career but is probably best known for going to prison as the first player in the UK to be found guilty of assault of another player during a game. He was playing for Rangers at the time and the SFA refused to step in. If memory serves I think he spent 6 weeks in Barlinne prison in Glasgow. It makes Strangeways look like a holiday camp in comparison. As a result he refused to play for Scotland again. Off the field, in his first spell at Everton, two individuals decided unwisely to break into Duncs house.It was a decision they came to regret prior to the police arriving. He is hero worshipped at Everton and I suspect will end up back there in some capacity. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge1981 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Patrick Berger interested in the job with Philipp Lahm as assistant 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: As someone who I suspect is a good deal older than you and followed his career closely as a Scot, I think it’s fair to say Big Dunc was a ‘character’. He had a decent career but is probably best known for going to prison as the first player in the UK to be found guilty of assault of another player during a game. He was playing for Rangers at the time and the SFA refused to step in. If memory serves I think he spent 6 weeks in Barlinne prison in Glasgow. It makes Strangeways look like a holiday camp in comparison. As a result he refused to play for Scotland again. Off the field, in his first spell at Everton, two individuals decided unwisely to break into Duncs house.It was a decision they came to regret prior to the police arriving. He is hero worshipped at Everton and I suspect will end up back there in some capacity. Very much appreciate the post and opinion. I do remember hearing him and these two stories on the radio, very much a character! As a Scot do you see him as a manager? From only seeing him on the touchline, I feel like a lot of people’s perception of his managerial potential is based of his footballing career/character, and not based on his managerial attributes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Edge1981 said: Patrick Berger interested in the job with Philipp Lahm as assistant That would be mint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: That would be mint Source? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Edge1981 said: Patrick Berger interested in the job with Philipp Lahm as assistant That’s a meaty pairing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Edge1981 said: Patrick Berger interested in the job with Philipp Lahm as assistant Baa’d appointment there, Lahm would get the chop in no time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) bet he was sacked via Text Edited July 4, 2023 by Red Cloud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 56 minutes ago, Harry said: Seems a bit odd on the timings. Vince has previously said he’s committed to Ferguson’s 5 year contract!! But there’s been a lot of change at FGR since his appointment. Steve Grieve was the DoF and he left in March. James Mooney was the COO and he left in May. Terry McPhilliips came in as the new Chief Scout. I’m 100% sure this was a Ferguson appointment as McPhillips is a mate of Tony Grant (Ferguson’s assistant). That suggested to me that they were still “all in” on Ferguson. As he was being allowed to bring in his own recruitment staff. Then, a new CEO arrives from New Zealand and a new DoF from Brentford. I think these 2 new figures have very differing views to Duncan’s and I think something must have happened behind the scenes in the last day or two to force their hand. Possibly a difference of opinion on recruitment I’d guess. I’d imagine, if they haven’t already, that Grant and McPhillips will also be leaving, as Dunc brought them both in. And so, for the 3rd time in a year, it’s back to the drawing board for FGR. I really enjoyed watching that L2 promotion team, a little over 14 months ago and now it’s all gone to pot! And their current squad will struggle in L2. They need a new manager and a new recruitment plan asap! Yeah going to be tough next season unless the right manager comes in. I know 3 season ticket holders from last season who are all not renewing. None of them can stand Vince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Hannah Dingley in charge, albeit temporarily. The first woman to take charge of a men’s team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Hannah Dingley in charge, albeit temporarily. The first woman to take charge of a men’s team. Wrong. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Hannah Dingley in charge, albeit temporarily. The first woman to take charge of a men’s team. Certainly an interesting move, head of academy but has her pro licence, emphases that its a very recent development as it says while the search for a new head coach is conducted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Wrong. I don’t know what that is. Too bloody young that’s my problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Ms Benson - lovely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) Hannah Dingley is appointed Forest Green Rovers caretaker manager, the first woman to manage an English Professional men's side, will be interesting to see the reaction, good luck to her. Edited July 4, 2023 by pillred 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 If I could guess a club who’d appoint the first female coach, then FGR would be up there. Something about their Chairman and the public eye. Cynical I know. Wish her the best of luck. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 10 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Hannah Dingley in charge, albeit temporarily. The first woman to take charge of a men’s team. Fair play to her and I hope she does well, but I suspect this is reason big Duncan was sack, so vance can grab headlines telling him he's progressive and inclusive, Now I don't want to take away from hannah and I generally hope she does a good job, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Will be fascinating to see how this plays out - is she caretaker just for pre-season or will she be given a run of matches at the start of the season I wonder? Wish her luck regardless, cool move from FGR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Always thought 1st woman manager would be internal through Academy. Familiarity to the club and staffs' familiarity with her will allow all concerned to deal with the inevitable outside noise as best they can. Also helps that the club isn't in London or Manchester where she'd get far more of the national spotlight. Suspect she'll do well 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Doesn't seem to be much in the way of news about how long she is expected to be in place. Caretaker & Interim mentioned in the stories I've seen, she's been there as a coach for a while and in charge of the Academy , so she already knows the Club. At least that means no culture shock when it comes to trying to get a "Full English". I wonder if they just let it go for a while and see how it's working out, it at least gives them time to look around if they want to. An interesting story, I really want to get up there this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 I am sure when this was discussed around the time of the last big Womens tournament, that quite of few had FGR down as the first club to go for a female coach. I guess the real test is how much the players respect her, if she shows she knows her stuff she will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Yaga Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 They were very busy in the January transfer window buying 7 players and bring in another 4 on loan, so they had a go and staying in the league although if anything they got worse winning only once. It looks like a few of their experienced/key players were keen to get out in Jan too and would be interesting to know the reasons. Now they are in League 2 it seems a hard task turning them into a winning side again, surprised Dunc left now but was half expecting a poor start and for things to turn sour a month or so in. Sounds like with the board appointments too I guess there could be people tinkering trying to bring about longer term culture change so seems from the outside that it's a chaotic place to be right now, whoever is in charge would do well to stop the freefall and a boring midtable finish would probably be a decent season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 This is typical Dale Vince, he loves to do things differently and it wouldn't surprise me if this appointment is made permanent - depends on the player's I suppose. Dale Vince "It’s perhaps telling for the men’s game that in making this appointment on merit, we’ll break new ground - and Hannah will be the first female Head Coach in English (men’s) football." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 5, 2023 Admin Share Posted July 5, 2023 41 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Will be fascinating to see how this plays out - is she caretaker just for pre-season or will she be given a run of matches at the start of the season I wonder? Wish her luck regardless, cool move from FGR. At the moment she's just taking charge against Melksham in a friendly this evening Dale Vince is very shrewd in getting headlines around his club and has generated a lot of publicity already As long as she's judged on her footballing ability everyone will surely wish her well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: If I could guess a club who’d appoint the first female coach, then FGR would be up there. Something about their Chairman and the public eye. Cynical I know. Wish her the best of luck. He does like to be pioneering, with the vegan food, new stadium plans etc, so if there's an opportunity to become the first pro club to appoint a female manager who has all of the necessary qualifications then they would absolutely be the team to do it. Would open the door for other extremely qualified female coaches as well. I don't view it with the same cynicism as you and think it'd be great if she started the season in charge and started really well. It was always bound to happen sometime because there's no real reason for it not to. There will come a time that women who follow in future would be rightly thought of and referred to simply as manager, not female manager. Just like Phil Neville was "manager" of the England Ladies rather than the "male manager" of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: Fair play to her and I hope she does well, but I suspect this is reason big Duncan was sack, so vance can grab headlines telling him he's progressive and inclusive, Now I don't want to take away from hannah and I generally hope she does a good job, My suspicions are 1) he had a terrible record last season and 2) he had a terrible record last season! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 If the team are winning it'll be fine - if they're losing then it would be a bad appointment - same as any other managerial appointment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Would’ve been perfect for Cotts and Wilbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 13 hours ago, marcofisher said: Very much appreciate the post and opinion. I do remember hearing him and these two stories on the radio, very much a character! As a Scot do you see him as a manager? From only seeing him on the touchline, I feel like a lot of people’s perception of his managerial potential is based of his footballing career/character, and not based on his managerial attributes. Hello mate. Personally I think he would be a great motivator - witness his time as caretaker at Everton but I don’t see him as particularly tactical aware, which is important nowadays. Simple question I always ask myself, would I want him here? Answer no. Maybe in a few years that opinion could change but I think he would be a better coach than a manager. Think he could do well in an academy structure 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 minute ago, ScottishRed said: Hello mate. Personally I think he would be a great motivator - witness his time as caretaker at Everton but I don’t see him as particularly tactical aware, which is important nowadays. Simple question I always ask myself, would I want him here? Answer no. Maybe in a few years that opinion could change but I think he would be a better coach than a manager. Think he could do well in an academy structure Can’t recall his interviews at Everton as caretaker, but can’t say I was hugely impressed by his interviews at FGR. The lazy conclusion is he’s a tub-thumper because of his playing-days style and isn’t a tactician. I’m not sure he dispelled that in his time at FGR though!!! Although playing personnel wise they were a bit of a mess. They never recovered from losing Wilson, Cadden and Matt, together with the long-term injury to 21/22’s top scorer Stevens. Instead of improving on their Lg2 side, they became worse. Burchill didn’t do very well, but they were still in the mix when he was sacked. Big Dunc came in, but they’d already appointed a new HoR (as Harry alluded to). He’d come from St Johnstone. He openly admitted he struggled with understanding how competitive Lg1 was, had assumed it was like Scottish Championship (T2), and therefore his recruiting level was flawed. That didn’t help. Hope they get themselves sorted. The more South West teams the better imho. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: Can’t recall his interviews at Everton as caretaker, but can’t say I was hugely impressed by his interviews at FGR. The lazy conclusion is he’s a tub-thumper because of his playing-days style and isn’t a tactician. I’m not sure he dispelled that in his time at FGR though!!! Although playing personnel wise they were a bit of a mess. They never recovered from losing Wilson, Cadden and Matt, together with the long-term injury to 21/22’s top scorer Stevens. Instead of improving on their Lg2 side, they became worse. Burchill didn’t do very well, but they were still in the mix when he was sacked. Big Dunc came in, but they’d already appointed a new HoR (as Harry alluded to). He’d come from St Johnstone. He openly admitted he struggled with understanding how competitive Lg1 was, had assumed it was like Scottish Championship (T2), and therefore his recruiting level was flawed. That didn’t help. Hope they get themselves sorted. The more South West teams the better imho. Weeeellllllllll.......maybe we could do with losing one of them....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 5, 2023 Admin Share Posted July 5, 2023 It did amuse me how Duncan Ferguson was continually referred to as "Dunc" in the press release Ferguson departs FGR | WE ARE FGR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Even with his status at Everton, there's no way a top drawer manager like ancelotti would give him the role he did on sentiment, he's no mug is he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Carlo clearly respects him, be funny if he takes him to coach the Brazilian side, that would be a wake up call to the fgr chairman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: Carlo clearly respects him, be funny if he takes him to coach the Brazilian side, that would be a wake up call to the fgr chairman! I did read an interview with Dunc where he stated that Carlo wanted him to go to Madrid with him. On a slight aside I find it odd that one of his assistants at Madrid and indeed previously at Everton, is his son. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 3 hours ago, phantom said: It did amuse me how Duncan Ferguson was continually referred to as "Dunc" in the press release Ferguson departs FGR | WE ARE FGR Amen to that. It used to annoy me when we used to refer Stephen Cotterill as Steve. What are they thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 22 hours ago, Harry said: Seems a bit odd on the timings. Vince has previously said he’s committed to Ferguson’s 5 year contract!! But there’s been a lot of change at FGR since his appointment. Steve Grieve was the DoF and he left in March. James Mooney was the COO and he left in May. Terry McPhilliips came in as the new Chief Scout. I’m 100% sure this was a Ferguson appointment as McPhillips is a mate of Tony Grant (Ferguson’s assistant). That suggested to me that they were still “all in” on Ferguson. As he was being allowed to bring in his own recruitment staff. Then, a new CEO arrives from New Zealand and a new DoF from Brentford. I think these 2 new figures have very differing views to Duncan’s and I think something must have happened behind the scenes in the last day or two to force their hand. Possibly a difference of opinion on recruitment I’d guess. I’d imagine, if they haven’t already, that Grant and McPhillips will also be leaving, as Dunc brought them both in. And so, for the 3rd time in a year, it’s back to the drawing board for FGR. I really enjoyed watching that L2 promotion team, a little over 14 months ago and now it’s all gone to pot! And their current squad will struggle in L2. They need a new manager and a new recruitment plan asap! He's a tree hugging, headline grabber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) I’m someone quite close to FGR and it’s interesting to read some of the opinions on here. ‘Dunc’ was sacked because he was way out of his comfort zone. He showed absolutely nothing in his time there that he would have any inkling as to how to turn it around. I attended their fans forum back in March and, whilst Dunc was very good with the fans, a thoroughly likeable bloke and very personable, he didn’t come across as having much understanding of the rigours of League 1, and even less so League 2. I believe he is a very good coach, and that’s no doubt a proven fact, given his experience and the fact that top managers rate him, but being a good coach and being a good manager are very very different things. And even more so where he’s jumped into a manager role at a lower league club in free fall! I honestly don’t think he had a clue how to fix things. From his answers at that forum, he seemed very surprised at the drop-off in quality from the players he’d been familiar with coaching to the players he now had at his disposal. Exacerbated by the fact that the club were already in free fall. The sudden departures of the manager and head of recruitment late into the summer 2022 break, the poor recruitment from Burchinall, the loss of key players, and then the disastrous appointment of the new recruitment head Grieve and his complete lack of understanding of the level required - some of his signings in Jan were terrible. You suddenly had a recruitment bloke bringing in sub standard players to an already sub standard squad, being managed by a bloke with no idea how to manage these level of players. Many rumours of players not doing what Dunc demanded of them, not showing up in training etc. Whilst Dunc is a seriously imposing figure, it didn’t look like he had any level of control or respect in the squad. As for Hannah Dingley. Well, by all accounts from people I know at the club she’s been a huge success in the academy. She’s also one of the most qualified coaches in the country (top 400 apparently according to qualifications). Will be interesting to see how this shapes up. But the club have done a complete 180 from where they were in May 2022 and it’s gonna take a while to rebuild it. Edited July 5, 2023 by Harry 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.