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5 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Scott’s clearly off and in talks somewhere - not in the side.

 

(Just saying it before someone else does… ?)

I thought we had to accept an offer from another club before Scott would be allowed to talk with them ?

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18 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

I’m interested to see if Marlee Francois gets any minutes today. Both he and Palmer-Houlden seem the next in line to step up. 

Haven’t seen any mention of Elijah Morrison for a while. Did he travel to Austria for training camp? 

No, he didn’t.

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I really wish we could see what's going on, no panicking, no knee jerk reaction but with that starting line up we really shouldn't be conceding two goals in the first 20 minutes. I'm hoping it's just a bit of a bad first day back at work kind of situation. 

Also I'm sure it's not helping Wood any to have 2 goals shipped in such a short time against a team we should have no issues defending against. 

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Just now, Spike said:

I really wish we could see what's going on, no panicking, no knee jerk reaction but with that starting line up we really shouldn't be conceding two goals in the first 20 minutes. I'm hoping it's just a bit of a bad first day back at work kind of situation. 

Also I'm sure it's not helping Wood any to have 2 goals shipped in such a short time against a team we should have no issues defending against. 

It’s our first pre-season game, stuff like this happens, in the same way winning all your games means nothing.  Pre-season is a process.

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Just now, Top Robin said:

Dave...even if we go on to win 6-2...it is not good to concede 2 goals against a team like Torquay 

Why?  It means literally nothing.  It’s a process, a gradual build up of fitness, working on lots of things.

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FFS, does anyone bar a few on here seriously think this is they important in the scheme of things?

We haven’t played any friendlies before today, are going to look at 22 players over 90 minutes & it is about easing ourselves back in, not the result.

It’s almost as if some of the relentlessly negative posters are desperate for something to complain about..

I don’t think pre season scores have the slightest impact on how the season goes.

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3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

It’s our first pre-season game, stuff like this happens, in the same way winning all your games means nothing.  Pre-season is a process.

Like I said, not panicking, no knee jerk reaction, it's just a concern as we seemed to have recruited well and players should be fighting hard for their positions so you would expect a strong preseason, not getting beat by a team who didn't even make their trialist on their twitter team line up :laugh:

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1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

FFS, does anyone bar a few on here seriously think this is they important in the scheme of things?

We haven’t played any friendlies before today, are going to look at 22 players over 90 minutes & it is about easing ourselves back in, not the result.

It’s almost as if some of the relentlessly negative posters are desperate for something to complain about..

I don’t think pre season scores have the slightest impact on how the season goes.

I mean I don’t think anything said really requires a reaction tbh? 

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Just now, Spike said:

Like I said, not panicking, no knee jerk reaction, it's just a concern as we seemed to have recruited well and players should be fighting hard for their positions so you would expect a strong preseason, not getting beat by a team who didn't even make their trialist on their twitter team line up :laugh:

If it’s a concern for you, fine….it ain’t for me, nor will it be if we lose 5-1, win 5-1.

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3 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

FFS, does anyone bar a few on here seriously think this is they important in the scheme of things?

We haven’t played any friendlies before today, are going to look at 22 players over 90 minutes & it is about easing ourselves back in, not the result.

It’s almost as if some of the relentlessly negative posters are desperate for something to complain about..

I don’t think pre season scores have the slightest impact on how the season goes.

Even if there were loads of negative posts (there aren't!), why should it bother you?

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5 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

FFS, does anyone bar a few on here seriously think this is they important in the scheme of things?

We haven’t played any friendlies before today, are going to look at 22 players over 90 minutes & it is about easing ourselves back in, not the result.

It’s almost as if some of the relentlessly negative posters are desperate for something to complain about..

I don’t think pre season scores have the slightest impact on how the season goes.

It matters in the sense that the players should be playing well to establish their position in the team. Wells should be showing nothing but grit to prove Conway shouldn't start before him, Vyner should be looking for a strong game to show he's still worth a starting spot. Wood is getting a chance to play with the main team and should be looking to show he's ready to step up... 

No, the game is not important, we can lose it and it's fine but performances certainly matter if the team is truly competitive for starting positions. 

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Just now, mozo said:

Even if there were loads of negative posts (there aren't!), why should it bother you?

Crazy isn’t it. I don’t read countess negative posts. A bit of intrigue as to how we have conceded two against them but hardly the doomsday merchants people like to portray them as. 

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2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

If it’s a concern for you, fine….it ain’t for me, nor will it be if we lose 5-1, win 5-1.

I’ve always thought of you as a good mathematician, and in one comment you’ve blown my dreams. They’ve already scored 2 mate so can’t beat them 5-1. I’m not going to sleep tonight 

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2 minutes ago, Spike said:

It matters in the sense that the players should be playing well to establish their position in the team. Wells should be showing nothing but grit to prove Conway shouldn't start before him, Vyner should be looking for a strong game to show he's still worth a starting spot. Wood is getting a chance to play with the main team and should be looking to show he's ready to step up... 

No, the game is not important, we can lose it and it's fine but performances certainly matter if the team is truly competitive for starting positions. 

You can’t even watch the match, are getting half a dozen tweets giving updates and you’ve concluded:

- Wells isn’t showing anything

- Vyner isn’t having a strong game

- Wood isn’t stepping up

You have no idea who is playing well, average or poor.

Its a worse take than the bloke trying to win the golden shot from a phone box whilst watching the tv in a Rumbelows Shop Window.

FFS.

it’s why I don’t follow the MDT during the match when it’s on Robinstv.

 

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2 minutes ago, elhombrecito said:

Well, I've just remembered why I avoid matchday threads. Thought, I might be safe for a pre-season, but evidently not. 

Same here.  I take a look at half-time and full-time…sometimes next day I read it all back, there are some hilarious takes at times, amongst some sensible stuff.

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5 minutes ago, elhombrecito said:

Well, I've just remembered why I avoid matchday threads. Thought, I might be safe for a pre-season, but evidently not. 

It's easy to avoid. Or alternatively easy to not be so bothered about what other people post. 

The thing that wound me up last season is the smug "Ha, other posters said this and they were wrong! Nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh" type posts, but it was daft for me to let anything on this forum bother me.

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4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Same here.  I take a look at half-time and full-time…sometimes next day I read it all back, there are some hilarious takes at times, amongst some sensible stuff.

True , but I expect it’s like that on most clubs forums. After all,  the internet / social media is awash with knee jerk rubbish period!!

 

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4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

You can’t even watch the match, are getting half a dozen tweets giving updates and you’ve concluded:

- Wells isn’t showing anything

- Vyner isn’t having a strong game

- Wood isn’t stepping up

You have no idea who is playing well, average or poor.

Its a worse take than the bloke trying to win the golden shot from a phone box whilst watching the tv in a Rumbelows Shop Window.

FFS.

it’s why I don’t follow the MDT during the match when it’s on Robinstv.

 

Sigh. No, that's not what I've said at all, I've said what I would expect. Same thing on here all the time, people reading something and jumping to conclusions. 

I'll repeat it again so it's clear... 

11 minutes ago, Spike said:

Wells should be showing nothing but grit to prove Conway shouldn't start before him, Vyner should be looking for a strong game to show he's still worth a starting spot. Wood is getting a chance to play with the main team and should be looking to show he's ready to step up... 

Where do I say that is not happening? As you said yourself, I cannot see the game but I was responding to someone saying the game doesn't matter. I simply pointed out a few examples of why it does matter, because these players should be battling for a place in the team. From what I've read Wells has an assist and is playing very Well which is great and shows his head is where it should be. 

Honestly, people read posts these days and take what they want from it rather than what's actually being said. 

From my assessment of what I do know is going on in the game Knight is battling hard, which is what Derby fans said is what we'd get from him, which is fantastic to hear. Wells is in with an assist and seems to be doing well in our attack and Bell has scored twice by being in good positions. They are all positives I'm very happy to read, the only negative is conceding two goals in such a short period of time of which the only information I have is that we "fail to clear our lines" which is something we heard all too often last season. 

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We’ve no idea what tweaks to set up with/without the ball we’re trying, plus players that haven’t played with each other before etc etc. These are exactly the games to try things and accept things might not go to plan as no downside - the objective is getting ready for PNE and beyond, not sending GJ home recoiling from a hammering. 

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