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Piccolo

Piccolo

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13 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:
hooligan
 
noun
 
  1. a violent young troublemaker, typically one of a gang.
     
    So going back quite a few years I was having my usual pre-match pint or two at The Try Again - a really peaceful City pub when a small group of Millwall supporters  burst in hit the nearest people and ran out. One was a young lad and the other was an old fella who suffered a cut above his eye. These were not "like minded people"- just people wanting to watch a game of football in peace.
     
    Hooligans pretending to support any team be it Bristol City or Millwall are, imo, absolute scum and do not deserve respect from anyone. If they want to fight then do it elsewhere and not in pretence of being a football fan. 
     
    I like your history lesson but equally despise your comment regarding respect for these sub humans and NO - they are not "decent blokes".
     

I did not say you had to respect them or that they deserve respect. I said that whether people like it or not, they do command respect from many in their communities… and this was linked to my challenge to the stereotype of all hooligans being right-wing White blokes. Ie Tiny commanded respect, despite him the opposite to the stereotype.

Furthermore, I said those that I had personally met… many seemed like decent blokes overall. They were firefighters, ex military, bank managers, one was a medic!! I cannot be sure, but they seemed only interested in like minded individuals. To be fair, this was in the late 90s and early 2000s, when I went away to most games. Perhaps things have changed, society feels a lot more obnoxious overall nowadays. I find most modern football crowds obnoxious now, sadly, not just the hooligans. 

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Marina's Rolls Royce

Marina's Rolls Royce

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2 minutes ago, Piccolo said:

I did not say you had to respect them or that they deserve respect. I said that whether people like it or not, they do command respect from many in their communities… and this was linked to my challenge to the stereotype of all hooligans being right-wing White blokes. Ie Tiny commanded respect, despite him the opposite to the stereotype.

Furthermore, I said those that I had personally met… many seemed like decent blokes overall. They were firefighters, ex military, bank managers, one was a medic!! I cannot be sure, but they seemed only interested in like minded individuals. To be fair, this was in the late 90s and early 2000s, when I went away to most games. Perhaps things have changed, society feels a lot more obnoxious overall nowadays. I find most modern football crowds obnoxious now, sadly, not just the hooligans. 

We'll  agree to disagree.

I hope you have an enjoyable  incident free match today and I'm sure that our fans will willingly show the respect to your former owner during his tribute.

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Red Ferret

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1 hour ago, IAmNick said:

Phew, one of my biggest concerns when I or others get physically attacked or intimidated due to the football team I support is whether it's by an appropriately racially diverse group reflective of the nearby area. That really sets me at ease for future Millwall trips!

Me watching a group of hooligan diickheads kick the crap out of some 14 yr old away fans...

 

"What a wonderfully ethnically diverse group!  Bravo! Well done Millwall, so progressive"

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Red Ferret

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1 hour ago, Piccolo said:

That was not the point I was making. I thought I explained that I was talking about stereotypes - as it was a reply to a post about inequality/diversity.


 

 

Nobody gives a tit about how diverse your moron hooligan groups are

 

Wow, the guy kicking the sheet out of some innocent kid is a black bank manager. Amazing wow,  such respect 

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cotswoldred2

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1 hour ago, Piccolo said:

I did not say you had to respect them or that they deserve respect. I said that whether people like it or not, they do command respect from many in their communities… and this was linked to my challenge to the stereotype of all hooligans being right-wing White blokes. Ie Tiny commanded respect, despite him the opposite to the stereotype.

Furthermore, I said those that I had personally met… many seemed like decent blokes overall. They were firefighters, ex military, bank managers, one was a medic!! I cannot be sure, but they seemed only interested in like minded individuals. To be fair, this was in the late 90s and early 2000s, when I went away to most games. Perhaps things have changed, society feels a lot more obnoxious overall nowadays. I find most modern football crowds obnoxious now, sadly, not just the hooligans. 

Utter toss.

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ExiledAjax

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2 hours ago, Piccolo said:

They were firefighters, ex military, bank managers, one was a medic!!

I'd say that is a poor reflection on the recruitment standards of those jobs and institutions rather than a positive reflection on the character of the hooligans.

Semi-organised mob-violence aside, for me the big question in today's game is can we put out a front 6 that can play our own game, keep the ball moving on the deck, and create enough chances for our forwards to finish?

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CyderHead92

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6 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

What do we reckon to the team today? 
Pring or Roberts

Sykes or Cornick

Bell or Mehmeti 

                    Max

Tanner.  Vyner. Dickie. Pring 

       Knight.  James. Williams 

      Sykes       Wells.       Bell 

Bang on

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The Swan and Cemetery

The Swan and Cemetery

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10 minutes ago, George Rs said:

Probs thinks pringy has a more physical presence at the back 

Also one of our best players last season, who didn’t have his best game against a very decent Championship side, when lots of others also below average. Roberts has no Championship experience and played very well against a poor League One team. Would be disappointed if NP saw that combination of factors as reason to drop Pring. 

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old_eastender

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5 minutes ago, Sarumred said:

Pring's done nothing wrong so keeps his place.

I really rate Pring but he was one of several players to put in below par performances against PNE, whilst Roberts was brilliant against Oxford. For me he had earned the place and it's sending the wrong message to keep Pring in.

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IAmNick

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Fine balance between players being competitive as they know their place is up for grabs, and terrified of making a mistake as they'll get dropped immediately or trying much too hard, neither of which you want!

Pring didn't have a great game but I'm not sure he deserved dropping, even though Roberts was quality - he'll know he's on a bit of a timer though.

Pressure is a very delicate and individual balance.

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ORANGE500

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1 minute ago, George Rs said:

Also just to put it on record, this 84th minute Joe Bryan winner will be very painful after alex leaving this week.

An 84th minute winner would indeed be painful however, as I don't really care once a player has left the club Joe Bryan scoring it wouldn't mean anything more than their other players. And just for the record  I'm a lot more optimistic than a lot of people on this forum and believe City have better players than at least 75% of the teams in the Championship and will win today.

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Mr Popodopolous

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Millwall are back 3, with wingbacks, 3 in CM and then Flemming and Bradshaw up front.

Flemming is not really a striker.. that central area could be quite congested again.

2 v 1 in wide areas an obvious advantage for us but that in turn can leave us or a side forcing it a bit vulnerable in transition. An early goal probably would help us a lot.

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Midred

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2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Millwall are back 3, with wingbacks, 3 in CM and then Flemming and Bradshaw up front.

Flemming is not really a striker.. that central area could be quite congested again.

2 v 1 in wide areas an obvious advantage for us but that in turn can leave us or a side forcing it a bit vulnerable in transition. An early goal probably would help us a lot.

Watmore and Bryan up front according to bbc?

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Open End Numb Legs

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4 hours ago, chowie said:

Great read thank you.

My Great Grandfather Alf 'Jasper' Geddes played for Millwall & Bristol City, I think this picture is displayed at The Den somewhere (or used to be)

Signed to Bristol City from Millwall (via Bedminster) in 1899 then stayed here and my Nan was born 11 years later.

GeddesAEMillwall-scaled.jpg?v=1608087982

A brilliant photo, thanks for sharing.

Looks like the subs bench was different back then.?

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Son of Fred

Son of Fred

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4 hours ago, chowie said:

Great read thank you.

My Great Grandfather Alf 'Jasper' Geddes played for Millwall & Bristol City, I think this picture is displayed at The Den somewhere (or used to be)

Signed to Bristol City from Millwall (via Bedminster) in 1899 then stayed here and my Nan was born 11 years later.

GeddesAEMillwall-scaled.jpg?v=1608087982

Great photo - thanks for sharing 

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EstoniaTallinnRed

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Just now, elhombrecito said:

Is RobinsTV working for anybody else?

All I'm getting is this screen:

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There was a problem with the audio only going off earlier, so it wouldn't surprise me if RTV is having problems. Audio is OK atm, but this season whoever is working it seems to be useless.

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downendcity

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5 hours ago, chowie said:

Great read thank you.

My Great Grandfather Alf 'Jasper' Geddes played for Millwall & Bristol City, I think this picture is displayed at The Den somewhere (or used to be)

Signed to Bristol City from Millwall (via Bedminster) in 1899 then stayed here and my Nan was born 11 years later.

GeddesAEMillwall-scaled.jpg?v=1608087982

Kit designed by Jon Lansdown.

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