lenred Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, RedRoss said: How are people getting upset at spending 2.5 million on a player that had 20 goals/13 assists in League One was 4 mill a year ago and getting a move to the Prem. Has put up good stats in the Championship so far. I know with the benefit of hindsight we could of bought him cheaper but that applies to us and 40 other teams thar also missed the trick for a freebie. He's filling an obvious void of creativity that we've missed. Seems like good business if it comes off. Who’s upset at spending £2.5m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, petehinton said: Really good deal if it is true, but as we all said when manning came in….if given money to spend, I’m intrigued to hear how we were at our limit in terms of budget in October, but suddenly we aren’t at our limit now. They lied. We all surely know that? 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: Interesting to see how he incorporates Twine and Knight in the same team. Easier if he goes 3-5-1-1 for sure I think it will switch to some kind of 3 at the back when fully fit. Might require another striker though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: If this is true, then a few on here might have to reappraise their opinion of Brian Tinnion and the quality he brings to the recruitment team. Just like the quality he brought to the team when he played. I dunno….this absolutely would’ve been identified and driven by Manning, and got over the line because of Manning. Imo 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I doubt we will pay more than our upper limit - £undisclosed fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lydered Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Being pedantic, whilst 2.5 million is good buisness if true, his wages aren't going to be cheap! Purely just having a quick look on Google, so certainly not fact. But a few sites have his current Burnley deal to be somewhere between £3.5k - £4.6k p/w. Of course he would be on a better deal here, but I kind of assumed he would have been on more than that there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Hoping this is true at £2.5m. We are desperate for players who can bring quality in the final third. Fingers crossed this lad will bring that. Manning should certainly know how to get the best out of him as well. funny how the budget has altered though. May be that there will be a few exits in the summer (matty James?) and they are bringing this one forward to make sure we don’t miss out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry R Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, GrahamC said: The spin will be Weimann is now off the wage bill, the Cup money if we beat West Ham but like “top ten budget & top six squad” it’s horseshit. Why would that be spin about Weimann though? He must be one of our top earners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I can get behind a deal at c£2.5m. Whilst it’s annoying that NP wasn’t given this money, we knew it was likely to be the case that LM would be allowed to spend, £2.5m on a player he’s worked with before and got good results with isn’t a bad deal. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, Lydered said: Purely just having a quick look on Google, so certainly not fact. But a few sites have his current Burnley deal to be somewhere between £3.5k - £4.6k p/w. Of course he would be on a better deal here, but I kind of assumed he would have been on more than that there. Yea I looked too and certainly don't believe that figure to be true. Was provably earning that at MK. 10-15k easily at Burnley and then would have very likely of had a promotion wage rise written into his Burnley contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, Coxy27 said: Genuinely interested to know what makes you believe it is 'clear we have to work harder than other clubs at the level to secure players'? Perhaps you could elaborate a little? As soon as we are competing with the likes of Middlesbrough for players of proven quality at the level like Aziz guess what happens? One guess!! So, for clubs like us, we've got to get in first with better and earlier recruitment before our direct competitors see that a player has established themselves and is just what they need. If we have people on the forum spotting players two years ago that we end up paying £2.5m plus wages for that has to be addressed. If it's because the club had a different opinion at the time that's fine, if it's because they hadn't even watched the player that is bang amatuer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 16 hours ago, petehinton said: Have heard rumblings he is to come here on loan with option to buy. Benson going to Hull. Assume as a bit of “sorry, thanks, here’s your apology present” Piercy now saying this after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 14 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Being pedantic, whilst 2.5 million is good buisness if true, his wages aren't going to be cheap! Can’t have it all. Do we want to bring in quality? If so we’re going to have to spend money, we can’t just be a side made up of gems from league one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 He’s our most credible source now 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, KegCity said: Can’t have it all. Do we want to bring in quality? If so we’re going to have to spend money, we can’t just be a side made up of gems from league one. So we're not allowed to question things? I think you've been watching top much Robins TV, Aka North Korea state TV. A lot of work has gone into getting our squad to have wage parity and I hope we won't be upsetting the apple cart by spending big money on wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, Harry R said: Why would that be spin about Weimann though? He must be one of our top earners. Because the sums still wouldn’t add up, losing one player on say £13k a week for six months wouldn’t fund a replacement & justify an outlay of £2.5m in isolation. Not saying it doesn’t make sense (it does) but it wouldn’t be a game changer after we were told all the budget had gone after loaning in TGH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, Numero Uno said: As soon as we are competing with the likes of Middlesbrough for players of proven quality at the level like Aziz guess what happens? One guess!! So, for clubs like us, we've got to get in first with better and earlier recruitment before our direct competitors see that a player has established themselves and is just what they need. If we have people on the forum spotting players two years ago that we end up paying £2.5m plus wages for that has to be addressed. If it's because the club had a different opinion at the time that's fine, if it's because they hadn't even watched the player that is bang amatuer. Yeah - fair enough, the first point. The history and the 'name' of quite a few clubs in this league is bound to be a bigger draw than little old Bristol City. That's where we have to be better at 'selling the dream' I guess. Not sure this particular case is evidence we're not working hard enough though. We signed Matty James and Andy King that summer (who's connections we know obviously, so can see why), and had Scott coming through who's progress we probably didn't want to block also. Just think the club passed on him at the time probably, not that I know as much as some on here seem to suggest they do. Was it a mistake? Who knows, butterfly effect... if we sign him everything's different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 11 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Tbf mate I seen him score that goal against Ipswich for Swindon and thought yeah he’d be a good signing. I don’t have a clue when it comes to scouting. Don’t do yourself down mate, JL on his laptop was part of the scouting team once.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 £2.5m is much more like it. And yeah, they were talking nonsense in the summer. But then they've made a habit of that in recent months. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Don’t do yourself down mate, JL on his laptop was part of the scouting team once.. And Tinnion is being primed to be our next CEO. There is hope for all if us! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollsRoyce Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, RedRoss said: How are people getting upset at spending 2.5 million on a player that had 20 goals/13 assists in League One was 4 mill a year ago and getting a move to the Prem. Has put up good stats in the Championship so far. I know with the benefit of hindsight we could of bought him cheaper but that applies to us and 40 other teams thar also missed the trick for a freebie. He's filling an obvious void of creativity that we've missed. Seems like good business if it comes off. He is not a Prem player, Prem wages, but not a Prem player. Fills a void for sure, a type of player we need. But we are signing him after the horse has bolted and overpaying for that too. With money that was not available a few weeks ago. Signing players from Prem clubs for notable fees and wages that have not made it as Prem players is a road we have gone down and just spent 3 years recovering from. As a principle, we have learnt nothing. But there is no shock there, as the club continually lies, and invents new approaches on a 2/3 yearly cycle. As a player, Twine will improve us in certain areas, and at least provide a different option. He did OK for Hull and is up to speed fitness-wise so can contribute from day 1. No excuses now for not getting promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: So we're not allowed to question things? I think you've been watching top much Robins TV, Aka North Korea state TV. A lot of work has gone into getting our squad to have wage parity and I hope we won't be upsetting the apple cart by spending big money on wages. What are you talking about? We lack creativity, Manning has worked with Twine before and £2.5 million is a fair fee. Wages won’t be astronomical. I’m glad we’re neither sitting on the Scott money nor blowing it on overpriced signings. Reports starting to say it’s a loan with a buy option, even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 8 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: He’s our most credible source now I'm never going to hear the last of this on the next podcast! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeOTIB Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) Personally not too bothered by the price tag as it’s not my money Edited January 15 by JakeOTIB 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Scenes when twine and benson appear on the roof…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, KegCity said: What are you talking about? We lack creativity, Manning has worked with Twine before and £2.5 million is a fair fee. Wages won’t be astronomical. I’m glad we’re neither sitting on the Scott money nor blowing it on overpriced signings. Reports starting to say it’s a loan with a buy option, even better. As a Premier league player, he's likely to be coming in as one of and if not our highest earners. Possibly a loan fee involved too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: I'm never going to hear the last of this on the next podcast! He knows f all. Just rehashed stories and then pretends it's inside knowledge. I'd love it if you called him out on his bs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, W-S-M Seagull said: As a Premier league player, he's likely to be coming in as one of and if not our highest earners. Possibly a loan fee involved too? He’s a squad player for Burnley. Would probably be similar wages to Weimann at the most, and if he’s coming in to be our main creative player that’s fair enough. Loan fee would be taken into account in the option to buy. There’s plenty to moan about with city but us properly investing in a creative midfielder, which we badly need, isn’t high up on the list! If it was the £5 million move that was initially quoted I’d be with you about the finances. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 13 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: He’s our most credible source now Look at him getting his 'I Told you so' moment in. Bless him. That'll make his day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lydered Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 15 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Yea I looked too and certainly don't believe that figure to be true. Was provably earning that at MK. 10-15k easily at Burnley and then would have very likely of had a promotion wage rise written into his Burnley contract. Ah yeah, didn't think of any promotion contract rises/clauses/bonuses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, Coxy27 said: Yeah - fair enough, the first point. The history and the 'name' of quite a few clubs in this league is bound to be a bigger draw than little old Bristol City. That's where we have to be better at 'selling the dream' I guess. Not sure this particular case is evidence we're not working hard enough though. We signed Matty James and Andy King that summer (who's connections we know obviously, so can see why), and had Scott coming through who's progress we probably didn't want to block also. Just think the club passed on him at the time probably, not that I know as much as some on here seem to suggest they do. Was it a mistake? Who knows, butterfly effect... if we sign him everything's different. I don't know whether that is the case or not either tbf. We may have watched him and had valid reasons to "pass" on him at the time. The general point, though, is given we lose out more often that not in a straight competition with our "rivals" an absolutely vital function of Tinnion's job is to ensure that our recruitment is bang on point in terms of when and who we watch. We need to be better than our rivals......it's not "fair" but that's what it is and what he needs to deliver!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 59 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Dear oh dear. He’s been linked in this window with Luton & Brentford, so why on earth do you think Plymouth would sell him to a side in the same league? Azaz and Cundle weren’t their players, that’s why they had no choice there. There is absolutely no thought process behind this sort of suggestion at all. Stop calling me Dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 12 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: So we're not allowed to question things? I think you've been watching top much Robins TV, Aka North Korea state TV. A lot of work has gone into getting our squad to have wage parity and I hope we won't be upsetting the apple cart by spending big money on wages. Trust me you don't just question. You seem to always spin the subject negatively. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, KegCity said: He’s a squad player for Burnley. Would probably be similar wages to Weimann at the most, and if he’s coming in to be our main creative player that’s fair enough. Loan fee would be taken into account in the option to buy. There’s plenty to moan about with city but us properly investing in a creative midfielder, which we badly need, isn’t high up on the list! If it was the £5 million move that was initially quoted I’d be with you about the finances. Sorry mate but there is zero chance he's on similar wages to Weimann. Weimann of course also took a pay cut which took him down to 10kish. I'd be incredibly surprised if Twine is on anything under 15k. No, you are assuming things. You can't sit here and tell me that were not paying a loan fee. In fact it would be ludicrous to suggest we are not paying a loan fee. It's an option to buy, not an obligation to buy. Football clubs don't recall a player from a loan and then loan them out to another club for free in the hope the new club will sign him in the summer. 1 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddarwedlocker Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Deal is done. He is at AG right now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, RedRoss said: Trust me you don't just question. You seem to always spin the subject negatively. I don't roll over and have my tummy tickled like most. Don't just question the idiots running OUR club, interrogate and hold them to account! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, W-S-M Seagull said: Sorry mate but there is zero chance he's on similar wages to Weimann. Weimann of course also took a pay cut which took him down to 10kish. I'd be incredibly surprised if Twine is on anything under 15k. No, you are assuming things. You can't sit here and tell me that were not paying a loan fee. In fact it would be ludicrous to suggest we are not paying a loan fee. It's an option to buy, not an obligation to buy. Football clubs don't recall a player from a loan and then loan them out to another club for free in the hope the new club will sign him in the summer. It’s all guesswork though isn’t it? Nobody knows what he’s earning. We don’t know our wage structure, but if we want a player good enough to string our attack together and get us into the playoffs that’s how much we’ll have to pay. Did I say we’re not paying a loan fee? I said it would more than likely to be taken into account in the buy option e.g when put with the buy option it comes to the value of the player. We’ve done the same with TGH by all accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 7 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: As a Premier league player, he's likely to be coming in as one of and if not our highest earners. That's not an issue as long as it's not out of kilter with the rest of the squad. I The aim that was often stated by Nige was to have a much more concentrated wage level amongst the squad, so we have to trust that will be adhered to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, RedRoss said: It doesn't have to be the elephant in every room surely. It's like a broken record. Of course but clearly many people are still in mourning for what they had and haven’t been sufficiently rewarded by the change. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, OliOTIB said: Deal is done. He is at AG right now. Oli here with a tap in on the line 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 34 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Interesting to see how he incorporates Twine and Knight in the same team. Easier if he goes 3-5-1-1 for sure Seems how it'll go once Atkinson returns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, OliOTIB said: Deal is done. He is at AG right now. I hope you’re not just stringing us along with this. (Sorry, but it just had to be done) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Now sounds like a loan with option to buy at the end of the season…..would much prefer a permanent deal now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Silvio Dante Posted January 15 Popular Post Share Posted January 15 27 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: He’s our most credible source now He’s a grown man with responsibilities. That he feels the need to act like a twelve year old and pretend he knows things he doesn’t for social media likes is deeply worrying. 19 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: I don't roll over and have my tummy tickled like most. Don't just question the idiots running OUR club, interrogate and hold them to account! What a hero! Just repeating the same thing over and over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, Loosey Boy said: Now sounds like a loan with option to buy at the end of the season…..would much prefer a permanent deal now Seems to be way more common these days; is it insurance for both parties in case something goes wrong? Balance sheets?! FFP?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Northern Red said: That's not an issue as long as it's not out of kilter with the rest of the squad. I The aim that was often stated by Nige was to have a much more concentrated wage level amongst the squad, so we have to trust that will be adhered to. Absolutely delighted we are signing a player like Twine. He'll offer us something different and he comes in as someone ready to hit the ground running. I don't know how much he earns. But I'd be very surprised if he won't be one of our highest earners. If he's earning 20k+ a week then thats gonna make many people wary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, RedRoss said: What a hero! Just repeating the same thing over and over. Quick mate, JL needs his boots cleaning. Run along. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: He’s a grown man with responsibilities. That he feels the need to act like a twelve year old and pretend he knows things he doesn’t for social media likes is deeply worrying. I trust him with any rumour now. Should take Piercy’s role as he’s got the best sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) The reality is that we all knew that the spending restrictions imposed on Pearson were slightly artificial and I think it's obvious that the subtext was about the extent to which we were willing to provide additional funds to a manager with one year on his contract with no plans to extend. The communication to Pearson and the fans was undoubtedly poor and it seems likely to me that Phil Alexander did not manage to convey a consistent line on what the budget was and why, which would explain why Pearson appeared to be unclear on the budget available. But ultimately, my anger in terms of Pearson's dismissal is more around the way the club created a culture of uncertainty around his future for several weeks, along with the level of nonsense spouted about being a top six side, fitness etc. in the wake of his dismissal. I don't have a massive problem with the club not backing a manager they did not want in the long-term (save for the fact that I think recruitment should be consistent and a change of manager should not have a huge impact on the type of players brought in) and I'm not going to complain about the club spending money now, especially if we have got a player for half the fee we were being quoted. I'd rather the club stuck to a consistent wage structure but I don't plan to complain about the fact we aren't without knowing whether we are or aren't. I've got frustrations with Tinnion, the board etc. but I'm not going to suddenly complain if they turn round and make a pragmatic investment in a high potential player who appears to be a type of player we are currently lacking. Edited January 15 by LondonBristolian 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 20 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: He knows f all. Just rehashed stories and then pretends it's inside knowledge. Says the one who has been like a wet hen all morning cus you thought we were going to spend £5m on Twine 5 12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Red Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 9 minutes ago, OliOTIB said: Deal is done. He is at AG right now. Set an alarm for 6pm as that's when both City and the Bears seem to like to make their announcements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Quick mate, JL needs his boots cleaning. Run along. Take a look at all my posts to see where I've defended JL. That old chestnut.. if that poster isn't negative every post they must be working with BS or idolise the Lansdowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, RedRoss said: Take a look at all my posts to see where I've defended JL. That old chestnut.. if that poster isn't negative every post they must be working with BS or idolise the Lansdowns. To be fair mate my childish response was in response to your childish post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 52 minutes ago, petehinton said: Really good deal if it is true, but as we all said when manning came in….if given money to spend, I’m intrigued to hear how we were at our limit in terms of budget in October, but suddenly we aren’t at our limit now. Weimann leaving will certainly free up a chunk,, though i wouldnt have thought it would cover all of twines wages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, Port Red said: Set an alarm for 6pm as that's when both City and the Bears seem to like to make their announcements. No need i'll still be up then. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 42 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: He’s our most credible source now What did he even say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: To be fair mate my childish response was in response to your childish post. That's pretty childish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: To be fair mate my childish response was in response to your childish post. My tongue in cheek response to your arrogance you mean.. Basically "I know better than most fans so that's why I make everything negative to make a stand against the ownership" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 51 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Max Vyner. Atkinson. Dickie McCrorie. Williams. TGH. Pring Twine. Knight Conway Maybe he’s got something like this in mind Exactly what I was thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I don't like the thought of a Loan With an Option as it's always in the back of my mind that it may not happen (see TGH) That's a 'me' problem though and in fairness these deals really help FFP and cash flow as helps spread payments, Spurs have done this really effectively last few years and gives them so much more wriggle room now. Protects us a little against injury and gives us 6 months to embed. These deals are normally sorted so the Contract is arranged as well so in theory no chance of losing to a bigger club if he does well as we just push the button. Seems a really good signing, as others have mentioned if we had done this the day after selling Scott I think we'd have been happy (or as happy as we can be having just sold Scott). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 41 minutes ago, JakeOTIB said: Personally not too bothered by the price tag as it’s not my money I tend to agree. The same goes when we sell someone. One other point, if we'd have got him 2/3 years ago, he'd now have been sold onto Bournemouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, hinsleburg said: I don't like the thought of a Loan With an Option as it's always in the back of my mind that it may not happen (see TGH) That's a 'me' problem though and in fairness these deals really help FFP and cash flow as helps spread payments, Spurs have done this really effectively last few years and gives them so much more wriggle room now. Protects us a little against injury and gives us 6 months to embed. These deals are normally sorted so the Contract is arranged as well so in theory no chance of losing to a bigger club if he does well as we just push the button. Seems a really good signing, as others have mentioned if we had done this the day after selling Scott I think we'd have been happy (or as happy as we can be having just sold Scott). What's happened to the TGH deal? Is it off? Have i missed something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOZZYBCFC Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: Max Vyner. Atkinson. Dickie McCrorie. Williams. TGH. Pring Twine. Knight Conway Maybe he’s got something like this in mind What about Sykes, thought he’s played well this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Loco Rojo said: What's happened to the TGH deal? Is it off? Have i missed something? Rumours are he’s being made perm this month, as part of Weimann agreement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, petehinton said: Rumours are he’s being made perm this month, as part of Weimann agreement That's what i thought. The way Hinsleburg had written that scentance suggested to me something has/had gone wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 20 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: I trust him with any rumour now. Should take Piercy’s role as he’s got the best sources. Absolutely, check his responses here. Thats clearly a man who knows what’s happening and isn’t just throwing one word answers out there he can fall back on to say he was right. 1 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 33 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Sorry mate but there is zero chance he's on similar wages to Weimann. Weimann of course also took a pay cut which took him down to 10kish. I'd be incredibly surprised if Twine is on anything under 15k. No, you are assuming things. You can't sit here and tell me that were not paying a loan fee. In fact it would be ludicrous to suggest we are not paying a loan fee. It's an option to buy, not an obligation to buy. Football clubs don't recall a player from a loan and then loan them out to another club for free in the hope the new club will sign him in the summer. Twine would not be on more than Weimann. Biggest earner James will be off in a couple of months. Big earner Weimann will be off the wage bill this week. Next biggest earners are Vyner & Naismith (£18k and £15k). Twine would likely be coming in around that level. So there won’t be wage disparity - any more than there already is with James. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said: Absolutely, check his responses here. Thats clearly a man who knows what’s happening and isn’t just throwing one word answers out there he can fall back on to say he was right. Is he Roy de’aliens dad? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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