SL Speaks

[Northern Red]

32 minutes ago, marcofisher said:

Sometimes the most productive relationships are between those who don’t see eye to eye or agree on everything.

 

If everyone in a business agreed about absolutely everything they would get shafted when that opinion turns out to be wrong and nobody saw the other side of the coin! 
 

Opposing voices add balance to the situation, it is far better now than the LJ days. 

Yep, don't know about SL, but Pearson and Alexander have both said exactly that in interviews, as did Gould previously.

[milo1111]

Never doubted that the guy is well intentioned but he always backs the wrong horse manager wise IMO and gives the good ones less to spend to cover these losses

[Mr Popodopolous]

27 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

The blinkers falling off many on Otib.  Some of us have been saying for years, even decades, that our biggest problem is the owner.

 

I started a recent thread asking if Nige might walk.  SL’s comments are not likely to be well received by NP.

I also recently wrote on Until new owners arrive we are destined to remain as we are until the inevitable bad season sees us back in the comfort of the old third division, and the depressing cycle continues once again.

 

There's not really that much more we can do in financial terms as far as limits go. Maybe a couple of million here and there with naming rights, maybe Partnerships with his other ventures at Fair Value might bring some in but it wouldn't be a game changer.

We could take more risks I suppose.. SL has one way but what vastly in general terms would you do differently?

[TheReds]

16 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said:

It is hard to think of a club that would lose it's star player for £25 million and not use some of the funds to strengthen the squad. Only at Bristol City under SL.

When you say we won't use any of the Scott money to strengthen how long are you giving this exactly, because at the moment it's been about 3 days and not 3 years.

Out of interest, how much should he/we spend out of that, on how many players/positions and what are the wages? Who do we get rid of and at what cost? How does it affect FFP in years to come?

Getting 20 million in doesn't simply mean we can just go and spend what we want. I also would be a bit baffled if our owner and manager went out in the press to tell them we have money to spend.

[headhunter]

3 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

If ever there was a moment to kick on it would be now...now we have a good manager, coaching set up, training ground, stadium, and squad, just a few tweaks it could happen. 

I find him and his boy extremely frustrating.

SL didn't mention "manager" when reflecting on the positives 

[IAmNick]

11 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

This was my post yesterday…he looks at outcomes, not process.  Thankfully Nige looks at process.

Yep, there can be a bit of a cargo cult mentality sometimes, on the pitch at well as off it - if we just copy this model/formation/playing style we'll be successful!

[Davefevs]

3 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

Steve Lansdown has been a remarkable owner for our football club. I actually find the vitriol and abuse he get pretty upsetting.

Lansdown’s ambitious vision for the club has driven progress in various aspects. Whether it’s improving the facilities, embracing modern football strategies, or planning for long-term success, his leadership has set the tone for Bristol City’s evolution from a struggling league one team in a crumbling stadium, to what we have today.

 Lansdown’s financial support is undoubtedly crucial, Finding an owner who can balance investment with financial responsibility is a rarity. 

Let's be fair, Steves's unwavering support, especially during tough times, is a testament to his passion for the club. His willingness to stay the course and work through challenges demonstrates a deep love for Bristol City that’s not easily replicable.
 

But for me Lansdown’s deep-rooted connection to Bristol and the club’s local identity has been a driving force in our community involvement. Finding another owner who shares this local connection and prioritizes community engagement as much as he does would be a tall order.

While we all want the best for our club, it’s important to recognize the unique qualities that Steve Lansdown brings to the table. As we evaluate the potential for change, we should be mindful of the monumental task it would be to find an owner who could match or surpass his contribution to beloved football club.

I for one appreciate the fantastic owner we have, but I also have one eye on the future like he has. When discussing, can we try and be respectful to him on a personal level, as he has done more for this club than anyone else in its history. He is also, and always will be, one of our own.  

 

Care to add some minuses to the pluses for some balance?

Edited August 12, 2023 by Davefevs

[Red white and red]

3 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

Steve Lansdown has been a remarkable owner for our football club. I actually find the vitriol and abuse he get pretty upsetting.

Lansdown’s ambitious vision for the club has driven progress in various aspects. Whether it’s improving the facilities, embracing modern football strategies, or planning for long-term success, his leadership has set the tone for Bristol City’s evolution from a struggling league one team in a crumbling stadium, to what we have today.

 Lansdown’s financial support is undoubtedly crucial, Finding an owner who can balance investment with financial responsibility is a rarity. 

Let's be fair, Steves's unwavering support, especially during tough times, is a testament to his passion for the club. His willingness to stay the course and work through challenges demonstrates a deep love for Bristol City that’s not easily replicable.
 

But for me Lansdown’s deep-rooted connection to Bristol and the club’s local identity has been a driving force in our community involvement. Finding another owner who shares this local connection and prioritizes community engagement as much as he does would be a tall order.

While we all want the best for our club, it’s important to recognize the unique qualities that Steve Lansdown brings to the table. As we evaluate the potential for change, we should be mindful of the monumental task it would be to find an owner who could match or surpass his contribution to beloved football club.

I for one appreciate the fantastic owner we have, but I also have one eye on the future like he has. When discussing, can we try and be respectful to him on a personal level, as he has done more for this club than anyone else in its history. He is also, and always will be, one of our own.  

 

Hi John, thanks for your input. Don’t worry you will be handed the club at some point. 

[spudski]

19 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Luton didn’t just wait for their turn…they built, built, built, pretty quickly, using a cheap “system” all about playing fast and direct, meaning they recruit a specific type.  That type that the snobby other clubs weren’t really interested in.  Abebayo (Walsall), Lockyer (cough, spit - Charlton), etc, then adding that bit of quality, but still essentially that type in Morris (Barnsley), etc.

 

As we are doing now. The point SL is making. He's not saying we should be doing better, because Luton made it with ' lesser' players. 

He's pointing out it's possible with parachute payments and used Luton as an example.

[Mr Popodopolous]

11 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

Steve Lansdown has been a remarkable owner for our football club. I actually find the vitriol and abuse he get pretty upsetting.

Lansdown’s ambitious vision for the club has driven progress in various aspects. Whether it’s improving the facilities, embracing modern football strategies, or planning for long-term success, his leadership has set the tone for Bristol City’s evolution from a struggling league one team in a crumbling stadium, to what we have today.

 Lansdown’s financial support is undoubtedly crucial, Finding an owner who can balance investment with financial responsibility is a rarity. 

Let's be fair, Steves's unwavering support, especially during tough times, is a testament to his passion for the club. His willingness to stay the course and work through challenges demonstrates a deep love for Bristol City that’s not easily replicable.
 

But for me Lansdown’s deep-rooted connection to Bristol and the club’s local identity has been a driving force in our community involvement. Finding another owner who shares this local connection and prioritizes community engagement as much as he does would be a tall order.

While we all want the best for our club, it’s important to recognize the unique qualities that Steve Lansdown brings to the table. As we evaluate the potential for change, we should be mindful of the monumental task it would be to find an owner who could match or surpass his contribution to beloved football club.

I for one appreciate the fantastic owner we have, but I also have one eye on the future like he has. When discussing, can we try and be respectful to him on a personal level, as he has done more for this club than anyone else in its history. He is also, and always will be, one of our own.  

 

There are a lot of positives all told and careful what we wish for- but he has made some big mistakes, swings of strategy, and his comments today were a bit of a concern.

[Red white and red]

6 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

Was wondering how long this insanely original and extremely funny joke would take to appear. Congratulations, it took a full minute. 

I forgot everything was bright, shiny and wonderful for city with Lansdown at the helm. 

[Bobbie]

 

15 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

Steve Lansdown has been a remarkable owner for our football club. I actually find the vitriol and abuse he get pretty upsetting.

Lansdown’s ambitious vision for the club has driven progress in various aspects. Whether it’s improving the facilities, embracing modern football strategies, or planning for long-term success, his leadership has set the tone for Bristol City’s evolution from a struggling league one team in a crumbling stadium, to what we have today.

 Lansdown’s financial support is undoubtedly crucial, Finding an owner who can balance investment with financial responsibility is a rarity. 

Let's be fair, Steves's unwavering support, especially during tough times, is a testament to his passion for the club. His willingness to stay the course and work through challenges demonstrates a deep love for Bristol City that’s not easily replicable.
 

But for me Lansdown’s deep-rooted connection to Bristol and the club’s local identity has been a driving force in our community involvement. Finding another owner who shares this local connection and prioritizes community engagement as much as he does would be a tall order.

While we all want the best for our club, it’s important to recognize the unique qualities that Steve Lansdown brings to the table. As we evaluate the potential for change, we should be mindful of the monumental task it would be to find an owner who could match or surpass his contribution to beloved football club.

I for one appreciate the fantastic owner we have, but I also have one eye on the future like he has. When discussing, can we try and be respectful to him on a personal level, as he has done more for this club than anyone else in its history. He is also, and always will be, one of our own.  

 

Completely agree. Never understand the anti SL comments. The sense of entitlement from some of our fans is embarrassing 

Edited August 12, 2023 by Bobbie

[TheReds]

3 minutes ago, Red white and red said:

I forgot everything was bright, shiny and wonderful for city with Lansdown at the helm. 

When you look at a lot of other clubs it is quite wonderful at the moment with our club (of course it could be better), but NP has done an excellent job getting rid of players on high wages and replacing them at a fraction of the cost, along with an academy producing some extremely good talent, then add in the future developments. It actually feels like a club with people in it together

Anyway let's say SL sells in the next month, what exactly are you proposing a new owner does so differently that will get up Prem football and be financially stable? 

 

[Merrick's Marvels]

1 hour ago, spudski said:

So he's pointing out, it is possible to get promoted without parachute payments, with a bit of luck and consistency. 

But what I would say to Lansdown, Spud, is that luck and consistency weren't the main ingredients in them getting there! Does he realise this??

Those ingredients were the right managerial appointments every time, laser focused recruitment of specific players for a specific style and consistently good decision making/leadership from their suits. And I don't suppose he wants to compare how we've done against those criteria!

If Lansdown thinks it was just a case of a bit of luck, right time, right place and a few consistent performances... he's demonstrating yet again he really understands zilch about football.

He might like to reflect on how the state of Luton's stadium, and I'll guess their training ground, demonstrates there is little correlation between money spent on bricks and mortar and success on the pitch. He also ask himself how many teams have got promoted by relying so heavily on youth - how many Luton players were "projects" or "ones for the future"? None that I can think of - just the right players to fit a specific system who can deliver here and now. 

If it's consistency the owner wants, going down the youth route is a funny way of going about it - unless you're prepared to be very patient. 

Which one minute he says he is, then contradicts himself. Muddled thinking wherever you look upstairs in the "Board" room  which explains more than anything else why we languish where we are. 

Look in the mirror Mr Lansdown not at Luton, Brentford, Brighton and goodness knows who else next week. 

Edited August 12, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels

[spudski]

1 minute ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

But luck and consistency weren't the main ingredients in them getting there.

Those ingredients were the right managerial appointments every time, laser focused recruitment of specific players for a specific style, consistently good decision making and leadership from their suits.

So if Lansdown thinks it was just a case of a bit of luck, right time, right place and a few consistent performances... he's demonstrating yet again he really understands very little about football.

He might like to reflect on how the state of Luton's stadium, and I'll guess their training ground, demonstrates there is little correlation between money spent on bricks and mortar and success on the pitch. He also ask himself how many teams have got promoted by relying so heavily on youth - how many Luton players were "projects" or "ones for the future"? None that I can think of - just the right players to fit a specific system who can deliver here and now. 

If it's consistency the owner wants, going down the youth route is a funny way of going about it - unless you're prepared to be very patient. 

Which one minute he says he is, then contradicts himself. Muddled thinking wherever you look upstairs in the "Board" room  which explains more than anything else why we languish where we are. 

Look in the mirror Mr Lansdown not at Luton, Brentford, Brighton and goodness knows who else next week. 

Do you really think SL believes it's just luck and consistency? 

Seriously? 

He's made numerous errors in judgement when recruiting managers and backroom staff. He knows that, we know that. 

He's now letting NP and Tinnion sort it out. 

And given them the best facilities to do so. 

In the past...under GJ we were one game from being promoted to the Prem. That would have been ' luck' imo. 

It's probably the worst thing that ever happened to this club under SLs tenure...giving a false sense to how it could be achieved. 

It's taken him years imo, to actually see the light. 

 

[Der no.2]

"wait for that moment"

What moment? What does it look like?

To me Steve came across as someone who has had the ambition kicked out of them.

Come on Steve, make it happen!

Edited August 12, 2023 by Der no.2

[Redrascal2]

32 minutes ago, TheReds said:

When you say we won't use any of the Scott money to strengthen how long are you giving this exactly, because at the moment it's been about 3 days and not 3 years.

Out of interest, how much should he/we spend out of that, on how many players/positions and what are the wages? Who do we get rid of and at what cost? How does it affect FFP in years to come?

Getting 20 million in doesn't simply mean we can just go and spend what we want. I also would be a bit baffled if our owner and manager went out in the press to tell them we have money to spend.

I said use some of the funds to strengthen the team due to the selling of Scott. I never said we can spend what we want . Also I thought that we did not have to sell Scott due to FFP and we could have kept him and still be on the right side.

[Mr Popodopolous]

3 minutes ago, Der no.2 said:

"wait for that moment"

What moment? What does it look like?

To me Steve came across as someone who has had the ambition kicked out of them.

Come on Steve, make it happen!

He looked a bit downbeat and defeated didn't he.

Hard to tell from a small clip but how much should we spend now in your view.

[Merrick's Marvels]

8 minutes ago, spudski said:

Do you really think SL believes it's just luck and consistency? 

Seriously? 

No! But why then only mention luck and consistency when talking about Luton? 

Why not also say, they've recruited very well, are a difficult physical team to deal with, have appointed the right managers... and we need to do better at all that.

A bit of honesty like that might give us all confidence he's on the right track and not some egotistical,  geriatric bampot which, sadly, is how he comes across sometimes. 

Edited August 12, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels

[Bristol Rob]

2 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

 

Next season is, for me, when the stars are most likely to align.

Ooh, ark at Russell Grant!

[Bristol Rob]

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Brentford, Brighton are quite good models tbh. Luton not so much, Swansea did he really ever speak of this.

See also the Wigan, Bolton, Leicester and Charlton models that all had a hat doffed to them at various points in the dim and distant.

[Mr Popodopolous]

Just now, Bristol Rob said:

See also the Wigan, Bolton, Leicester and Charlton models that all had a hat doffed to them at various points in the dim and distant.

Really? Interesting shall look back at these..

[downendcity]

3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

He looked a bit downbeat and defeated didn't he.

Perhaps he was anticipating OTIB's reaction to his interview! 

5 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Ooh, ark at Russell Grant!

Mystic ExiledAjax

[ExiledAjax]

8 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Ooh, ark at Russell Grant!

Qué?

[Red-Robbo]

18 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

He looked a bit downbeat and defeated didn't he.

Hard to tell from a small clip but how much should we spend now in your view.

 

Possibly from something nothing to do with football. Maybe they just didn't catch him on a good day?

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Possibly from something nothing to do with football. Maybe they just didn't catch him on a good day?

Fair. Hopefully he isn't a bit resigned or anything..speaking of unable to compete with Parachute Clubs, while true on one level is a little defeatist if he means verbatim.

[spudski]

24 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

No! But why then only mention luck and consistency when talking about Luton? 

Why not also say, they've recruited very well, are a difficult physical team to deal with, have appointed the right managers... and we need to do better at all that.

A bit of honesty like that might give us all confidence he's on the right track and not some egotistical,  geriatric bampot which, sadly, is how he comes across sometimes. 

Look at the whole context of the interview. The Luton example was in reference to being able to achieve promotion without parachute payments. 

[Glen hump]

3 hours ago, Lew-T said:

The amount of times we’ve heard that. Boring.

I think he talks about the ground and hpc a lot to reassure himself that he’s achieved great things with us, 

[Bristol Rob]

18 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Really? Interesting shall look back at these..

The Wigan approach was one that Danny Wilson told me he was all a out when I bumped in to him in a bar, the theory being, 'keep a clean sheet', so whilst the business model might have been different, it would explain him not putting Lita on the bench that time!

Can't remember if it was SL or SD who mentioned the others.

But basically, it was find a club with comparable support size and budget and do what they did. 

[TV Tom]

Don’t understand why SL gets so much stick, no one ever seems to offer an alternative to him

[Bat Fastard]

1 minute ago, Glen hump said:

I think he talks about the ground and hpc a lot to reassure himself that he’s achieved great things with us, 

He has!

[Glen hump]

Just now, Bat Fastard said:

He has!

Like what 

[Der no.2]

31 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

He looked a bit downbeat and defeated didn't he.

Hard to tell from a small clip but how much should we spend now in your view.

 No point in spending without the right attitude.

[Lew-T]

Just now, Bat Fastard said:

He has!

Yeah, but not where it really matters. 

[pongo88]

3 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

 

Next season is, for me, when the stars are most likely to align.

Have you heard it’s in the stars? Next July we collide with Mars 

[Lew-T]

4 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Don’t understand why SL gets so much stick, no one ever seems to offer an alternative to him

Dean Holden.

[Glen hump]

4 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Don’t understand why SL gets so much stick, no one ever seems to offer an alternative to him

He deserves praise for a lot of things he’s done but also deserves criticism for a lot he’s got horribly wrong, I’ve got a nasty feeling he’ll get rid of nige without properly backing him, he’ll then chuck aload of money at his new yes man 

[TheReds]

23 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said:

I said use some of the funds to strengthen the team due to the selling of Scott. I never said we can spend what we want . Also I thought that we did not have to sell Scott due to FFP and we could have kept him and still be on the right side.

You did say only this club would not use any of its star players money to strengthen, so my question was how long are you giving this exactly, seeing as he has literally only been gone a few days, and how do you know we won't spend any of it? Does January count if we don't spend in this window? The Scott money will be part of any spend in the next few years I expect as it was that significant.

So in your opinion how much should we spend, on how many players and what positions, what would happily be spent on wages seeing as we have a cap in place and how would it affect FFP in future years?

I never said we had to sell Scott due to FFP, but do you think it is sensible to keep every player under contract who wants to play Prem football and turn down a club record fee? I'd have loved him to stay but surely you just cannot keep players in that situation.

Sorry, the spend what we want comment wasn't specifically aimed at you even if it seemed that way, it was meant just as a general point.

[The Journalist]

Haven't read all the other comments, so apologies, but the jibe about Luton getting promoted with "far less talent than we have in our squad" was ******* poor.

[Bris Red]

1 hour ago, milo1111 said:

Never doubted that the guy is well intentioned but he always backs the wrong horse manager wise IMO and gives the good ones less to spend to cover these losses

This for me. I just get this feeling deep down that he doesn’t particularly like Pearson, he was backed into a corner massively after the shambles that was Dean Holden and IMO felt pressured to appointment an experienced manager like Pearson to appease the fanbase and get us out of the shit.

What really irritates me is that we had to wait to find ourselves up shit creek before appointing Pearson. As others have said he back the wrong horse massively in LJ. With the right manager in the period between 2017-2020 I genuinely think we could have got promoted.

Edited August 12, 2023 by Bris Red

[Glen hump]

Just now, The Journalist said:

Haven't read all the other comments, so apologies, but the jibe about Luton getting promoted with "far less talent than we have in our squad" was ******* poor.

Totally agree, he really doesn’t understand football that’s been obvious for all of his tenure 

[Guest]

50 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

I find myself content, embodying the perspective of an optimist who sees the glass as half full . The negatives hold little sway in my assessment, for our current standing far surpasses the state in which we found ourselves upon his assumption of leadership. This single fact is paramount for me. I remain impervious to any counterarguments suggesting that our current state could have been achieved without the influence of SL; such notions belong to the realm of fantasy. My stance is unwavering, and I'm disinclined to engage in a discourse over this matter, as no amount of discussion can sway my deep-seated respect and gratitude I have for him. H'es made mistakes, of course he has. He himself fully admits he isn't a "football" man, so he's had to rely on the people around him.

For those whose allegiance to this club aligns exclusively with his tenure, allow me to assure you—SL's intervention served as our salvation. 

Since SL and Dawes kicked out our double winning manager SC, he alone has got us to where we are today with his poor manager choices, and "the people around him"  they are there because he wants them there; his money, his choices, his club.

Other clubs have chosen better managers/staff and they have passed us by, yes some have chosen worse but lets make no mistake here we are where we are today because of SL......forever going around in circles imo, mediocre and lacking any nerve to make a forward step.

[Merrick's Marvels]

21 minutes ago, spudski said:

Look at the whole context of the interview. The Luton example was in reference to being able to achieve promotion without parachute payments. 

Ok, will do

PS. I bet the Luton owner hasn't put his kids on their Board! 

Edited August 12, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels

[Bristol Rob]

7 minutes ago, The Journalist said:

Haven't read all the other comments, so apologies, but the jibe about Luton getting promoted with "far less talent than we have in our squad" was ******* poor.

Aye, especially when we signed two of them, and they still got promoted! - If our players were already more talented, why did we sign them?

[TV Tom]

13 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

Dean Holden.

Nigel Pearson, when any other chairman in the country would of sacked him after that horrendous home run

[Son of Fred]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Isn’t he!

Nothing owed.

And Brighton too.

I bloody hope not.  I do fear for Nige / RG (Now PA’s) rebuild / plan will get us to a really good position, then we will throw it in the bin.

Yes, decision making/focus/clarity of thought  - it worries me that we won't be able to steer a steady course to keep on our current bearing..

[Bat Fastard]

16 minutes ago, Glen hump said:

Like what 

Stadium, HPC and the fact that we are still afloat and look to have a promising team and a great academy.

[sh1t_ref_again]

Same old otib'ers twisting what's been said or choose to interpret it to fit their agenda

[Bat Fastard]

16 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

Yeah, but not where it really matters. 

Infrastructure really matters.  Ask other supporters in Bristol.

[TV Tom]

12 minutes ago, Glen hump said:

He deserves praise for a lot of things he’s done but also deserves criticism for a lot he’s got horribly wrong, I’ve got a nasty feeling he’ll get rid of nige without properly backing him, he’ll then chuck aload of money at his new yes man 

He has continually backed him particularly when NP could of had no complaints about being sacked

[Glen hump]

1 minute ago, Bat Fastard said:

Stadium, HPC and the fact that we are still afloat and look to have a promising team and a great academy.

You saying we wouldn’t be a club without sl ?

[Glen hump]

Just now, TV Tom said:

He has continually backed him particularly when NP could of had no complaints about being sacked

Not anywhere near to the level of LJ , he didn’t sack LJ after 8 straight defeats and gave him more money than any other city manager in history 

[Bat Fastard]

Just now, Glen hump said:

You saying we wouldn’t be a club without sl ?

No. I am saying that the club has improved in many ways under the Lansdown ownership.  

[TV Tom]

Just now, Glen hump said:

Not anywhere near to the level of LJ , he didn’t sack LJ after 8 straight defeats and gave him more money than any other city manager in history 

Didn’t Pearson go 16 home games without a win?

[steviestevieneville]

3 hours ago, mozo said:

He says we've got a great stadium, fantastic training facilities, strong squad with experienced players...

He forgot to mention a top manager  I can never shake the feeling that he doesn't like Nige, albeit that is only based on that one strange and unnecessary comment a while ago about them not always seeing eye to eye, but also just my estimation of their very contrasting, probably conflicting, personalities.

Think it’s fair to say he doesn’t like being questioned. Let’s be honest he couldn’t wait to sack cotts . Millen, tinnion (at the time) Johnson , Holden we’re never going to Rock the boat . 

[Glen hump]

1 minute ago, TV Tom said:

Didn’t Pearson go 16 home games without a win?

Yep , when we were in the middle of him trying to sort out the mess LJ and Ashton left 

[Merrick's Marvels]

5 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said:

Infrastructure really matters.  Ask other supporters in Bristol.

It didn't matter to Luton. 

3 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said:

No. I am saying that the club has improved in many ways under the Lansdown ownership.  

No-one's denying that. No-one's saying there's been no progress at all. 

[Glen hump]

2 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said:

No. I am saying that the club has improved in many ways under the Lansdown ownership.  

Agree, nut for what sl has put in that’s not great, should of got a proper football man in to run things years ago.

[Superjack]

If a manager with a proven pedigree gets us to the Premier League, then said manager will get the credit for it, not Stephen Lansdown.

That's why he only throws his money at novices and projects, and only gets decent managers in to get him out of the s***.

That's the bottom line.

[Bristol Oil Services]

3 hours ago, glynriley said:

Yep. It's Luton now, was Brentford a couple of yesrs ago. Work out what's best for us (Nige will tell you) and crack on with it.

The idea of highlighting these now regular "outliers" is not to say just copy Brentford, Huddersfield, Luton, it is to keep alive the idea that (almost) anything is possible. Even in this division. 

 

 

[Shauntaylor85]

3 hours ago, mozo said:

He says we've got a great stadium, fantastic training facilities, strong squad with experienced players...

He forgot to mention a top manager  I can never shake the feeling that he doesn't like Nige, albeit that is only based on that one strange and unnecessary comment a while ago about them not always seeing eye to eye, but also just my estimation of their very contrasting, probably conflicting, personalities.

He says the same all the time. I thought it was poor of him to say we have a better squad than Luton. Does he realise how powerful and driven Luton were as a team, they deserved to go up and were in play offs season before. Again as I’ve said before, you get the feeling not a lot of love for the manager. If we aren’t in and around it October/November don’t be surprised if he makes a change. 

[mozo]

I think it's perfectly fair to say he has totally revamped our club, modernised every part of it, overseen some exciting times and near success, and leaves with a legacy of progress.

At the same, he's a bit odd, not the best judge of character, has made questionable appointments and has had awkward relationships with them. He's pretty shocking at PR, particularly bonding with fans.

So, some really important positives, but also a few criticisms.

I chatted to him over a beer once and found him to be a curious chap.

[Corsham Alf]

3 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I didn't like the sound of that.

 I mean the stuff about Parachute Payments isn't necessarily wrong, but to talk of not even reinvesting a chunk, although maybe the full interview will give more context and sounds a bit like the trading model unless I'm mistaken??

Don't think NP will like the sound of this either- which is much more important.

I didn’t like the sound of his comments either. Almost suggested the Alex Scott money would be put to one side -  ‘nest egg’ he stated. If he thinks our current squad is going to compete at the top end he’s frankly delusional.
 

I’ve got masses of respect for Steve but he doesn’t understand football. And his comments about our squad being far more talented than Luton’s last season was just not correct. 

I am slightly worried. 
 

 

[Bristol Oil Services]

3 hours ago, mozo said:

The Luton example proves it is possible, it doesn't make it probable that a club with a low squad value will go up.

Exactly. It is also, whilst we are still playing at this level, possible for us to go up under Steve's watchful stewardship but we won't. 

[Baba Yaga]

I think these days he talks about the club with more detachment and coldness, not sure this is even a bad thing though if the club is ran on a sound business plan rather than one man's ego to get praise through football success. If we were slashing the budget compared to other championship clubs or something then I could understand criticism however the beating he is taking here is a massive overreaction in my view. Talking about biding time when competing with parachute clubs may not be what we want to hear but its true and the throwaway comment he made about Luton has been completely misinterpreted I think. I doubt NP would have batted an eyelid at any of what was said because its pretty much more of the same.

[marmite]

Condensed version. (Sorry Tone) We will sell the family silver every year and hope for the best.

[Mr Popodopolous]

19 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Didn’t Pearson go 16 home games without a win?

No, iirc that was a combination of Holden and Pearson and the injury list for several months of that run was beyond a joke.

Morale was also on the floor when NP arrived but it was just a hoodoo, didn't always play that terribly during it.

Edited August 12, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Engvall’s Splinter]

1 hour ago, Red white and red said:

I forgot everything was bright, shiny and wonderful for city with Lansdown at the helm. 

To be fair, it could be a lot worse. 

[Fammyfan]

Not sure if it’s just me but I didn’t interpret the clip like there were no funds to spend, he mentions that we’re always scouting and recruiting but it seemed to try and manage expectations, in the way that we’ve received £25m but we’re not going to go on a massive spending spree to sign £25m worth of players as some may have hoped.

In an ideal world, we’ll spend somewhere between £3m and £10m on strengthening and save the rest which will allow us to spend in future.

[fisherrich]

5 hours ago, Davefevs said:

he does say (paraphrased) “investing in players and developing players” but I don’t know if investing in players means buying players?

This is my point from posts over the past few days.

The Luton thing pisses me off.  He’s now looking at another football model to benchmark against.

I’m sorry, thanks for all your money Steve, but appoint the right football people and let them get on with it.

 

Have to agree. starting to get fed up with Lansdown interviews. Sounds as if he ain’t too keen on Nige.
SL appears happy to float around in the Championship for a few years in the hope of a “Luton style” season coming along. Very underwhelmed at that. Mate of mine worked for Hargreaves Lansdown, and said that Hargreaves was the brains behind the biz.