Robbored Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Watching the women’s WC England v Columbia Emma Hayes was co commentator and whist looking at Englands set up mentioned the ‘double pivot’……….That’s not a term that I’m familiar with. She was just about explain when my phone rang and I missed her explanation……….. I know that there are a few football enthusiasts on here so could someone explain please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, Robbored said: Watching the women’s WC England v Columbia Emma Hayes was co commentator and whist looking at Englands set up mentioned the ‘double pivot’……….That’s not a term that I’m familiar with. She was just about explain when my phone rang and I missed her explanation……….. I know that there are a few football enthusiasts on here so could someone explain please? It refers to having 2 midfielders in front of the defence usually in a 4-2-3-1 shape. So the play 'pivots' around those two. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Phillips and Rice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Robbored said: Watching the women’s WC England v Columbia Emma Hayes was co commentator and whist looking at Englands set up mentioned the ‘double pivot’……….That’s not a term that I’m familiar with. She was just about explain when my phone rang and I missed her explanation……….. I know that there are a few football enthusiasts on here so could someone explain please? England have used a formation of 3-4-1-2. England's intent is to play possession football and positionally, Two of the four ( Walsh and Stanway) are theoretically playing a withdrawn holding role acting as options to retain and release possession, linking up play in the second third of the pitch as pivots to play off and using positional passing patterns. I would argue its not a double pivot. Stanway pushes up frequently. Edited August 14, 2023 by Cowshed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Robbored said: Watching the women’s WC England v Columbia Emma Hayes was co commentator and whist looking at Englands set up mentioned the ‘double pivot’……….That’s not a term that I’m familiar with. She was just about explain when my phone rang and I missed her explanation……….. I know that there are a few football enthusiasts on here so could someone explain please? It's like a pivot, but there's two of them. 10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) Edited August 14, 2023 by And Its Smith 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Hi Alan. Hope you find this helpful: https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/double-pivot-football-tactics-explained-bayern-munich-chelsea/#:~:text=A double pivot is a,behind a single number 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Robbored said: Watching the women’s WC England v Columbia Emma Hayes was co commentator and whist looking at Englands set up mentioned the ‘double pivot’……….That’s not a term that I’m familiar with. She was just about explain when my phone rang and I missed her explanation……….. I know that there are a few football enthusiasts on here so could someone explain please? I think it was the first time the Commentator had heard of it too. Kept mentioning it for the rest of the game. Bit like that person who hears a word they like for the first time, then tries to drop it into every sentence for the rest of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Robbored said: Watching the women’s WC England v Columbia Emma Hayes was co commentator and whist looking at Englands set up mentioned the ‘double pivot’……….That’s not a term that I’m familiar with. She was just about explain when my phone rang and I missed her explanation……….. I know that there are a few football enthusiasts on here so could someone explain please? Robbo Robbo Robbo it is all to easy. When coming out of defence we move the ball square at all opportunities to confuse the opposition into thinking we know what we are doing and how we will progress and maybe achieve a box entry or two (double pivot). This involves the forward thrust of our midfield warriors as much as our forward line moving into positions of concern to the opposition opponents. Once done we can then play back into a relaxed midfield 8 and probe for a winner. Simple really Edited August 14, 2023 by BigTone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: I think it was the first time the Commentator had heard of it too. Kept mentioning it for the rest of the game. Bit like that person who hears a word they like for the first time, then tries to drop it into every sentence for the rest of the day. Like “proper manager”? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 37 minutes ago, BigTone said: Robbo Robbo Robbo it is all to easy. When coming out of defence we move the ball square at all opportunities to confuse the opposition into thinking we know what we are doing and how we will progress and maybe achieve a box entry or two (double pivot). This involves the forward thrust of our midfield warriors as much as our forward line moving into positions of concern to the opposition opponents. Once done we can then play back into a relaxed midfield 8 and probe for a winner. Simple really If only Stanley Unwin could explain. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 50 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: I think it was the first time the Commentator had heard of it too. Kept mentioning it for the rest of the game. Bit like that person who hears a word they like for the first time, then tries to drop it into every sentence for the rest of the day. Pivot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Norn Iron said: If only Stanley Unwin could explain. Short version ... "Now of course, like all real life experience stories This also begins once a polly tito And Happiness Stan, whose life evolved ne' ephemeral colour dreamy most Had his pure existence and his being a deep joy of the multicolour of the rainbold Oh yes, his home's a Victoriana charibold, this the four-wheel folloped ft-ft-ft out the backgrove Now as Eaved and his deep approachey, his eye on the moon All time some time deep joy of a full moon scintillating dangly in the heavenly bode, but now only half "Oh, blow your cool, man!" he dood this deep thoughcus "What is the folly of this half disappearing of the moony most?" And as the light did a scintillating change through timely most Stopped still, and he did a deep thoughcus, "What?" Absolutely smashing flaked he was So gathering all behind in the hintermost He ploddy-ploddy forward into the deep fundemold of the complicading forry to sort this one out matey "Where at, man?" He thoucus, "where at, man? Oh dear"" 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Pivot is a position in basketball, or it used to be when I was at school and played a bit. I played pivot/centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Sir Geoff said: Phillips and Rice I think I can get that at my local Chinese takeaway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, MarcusX said: Like “proper manager”? Can’t say I’ve seen Nige use the double pivot but then he may have and I didn’t notice…………. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Nolan Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 It's a move I used to use down the Locarno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 It's on page 36 of the Kama Sutra. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Robbored said: Watching the women’s WC England v Columbia Emma Hayes was co commentator and whist looking at Englands set up mentioned the ‘double pivot’……….That’s not a term that I’m familiar with. She was just about explain when my phone rang and I missed her explanation……….. I know that there are a few football enthusiasts on here so could someone explain please? What I have learn’t from the World Cup commentary is men’s team break and counter attack whereas women’s teams ‘transition’. Pivot just seems a modern fancy term for defensive midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glastored Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, 1960maaan said: Short version ... "Now of course, like all real life experience stories This also begins once a polly tito And Happiness Stan, whose life evolved ne' ephemeral colour dreamy most Had his pure existence and his being a deep joy of the multicolour of the rainbold Oh yes, his home's a Victoriana charibold, this the four-wheel folloped ft-ft-ft out the backgrove Now as Eaved and his deep approachey, his eye on the moon All time some time deep joy of a full moon scintillating dangly in the heavenly bode, but now only half "Oh, blow your cool, man!" he dood this deep thoughcus "What is the folly of this half disappearing of the moony most?" And as the light did a scintillating change through timely most Stopped still, and he did a deep thoughcus, "What?" Absolutely smashing flaked he was So gathering all behind in the hintermost He ploddy-ploddy forward into the deep fundemold of the complicading forry to sort this one out matey "Where at, man?" He thoucus, "where at, man? Oh dear"" Brilliant! You’re obviously channelling the great man himself! Perfect! Younger fans would now be totally confused! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Robbored said: Can’t say I’ve seen Nige use the double pivot but then he may have and I didn’t notice…………. Think you’ve missed the point there… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 9 hours ago, downendcity said: It's on page 36 of the Kama Sutra. You can get them in Ann Summers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 7 hours ago, glastored said: Brilliant! You’re obviously channelling the great man himself! Perfect! Younger fans would now be totally confused! Not only younger fans confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Not only younger fans confused Look up Stanley Unwin on YouTube if they don’t know who he was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 10 hours ago, downendcity said: It's on page 36 of the Kama Sutra. Thank you. Wondered what was on page 36 - some pages of my copy are stuck together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 8 hours ago, glastored said: Brilliant! You’re obviously channelling the great man himself! Perfect! Younger fans would now be totally confused! I cheated a little copied and pasted from Small Faces lyrics 1 hour ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Not only younger fans confused The man himself , part way through a track from Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: I cheated a little copied and pasted from Small Faces lyrics The man himself , part way through a track from Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake. Brilliant album. Got that weird circular cover too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbytheriver Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 22 hours ago, cityexile said: What I have learn’t from the World Cup commentary is men’s team break and counter attack whereas women’s teams ‘transition’. Pivot just seems a modern fancy term for defensive midfielder. yeah! she uses this term alot,drives me mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 14/08/2023 at 16:45, Sir Geoff said: Phillips and Rice ahhh not "Chips & Rice" then, now I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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