Steve Lansdown……..

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

Nonsense.  I, amongst others, have warned about SL’s stewardship for a number of years now, and taken abuse for it.  It is good to note that others are now coming round to this critique of SL, especially the nonsense that is Bristol Sport.  Thank goodness he never got his hands on Glos cricket!

we have arrived at our destination,

Edited August 31, 2023 by wtf

[milo1111]

It’s lansdowns poor decisions that have meant has had to prop up the club. Especially the decision to let Ashton run wild. The buck stops with him so the fact he has had to pump in millions is his own problem.

it’s hardly left him in the gutter has it.

[Mr Popodopolous]

Just now, milo1111 said:

It’s lansdowns poor decisions that have meant has had to prop up the club. Especially the decision to let Ashton run wild. The buck stops with him so the fact he has had to pump in millions is his own problem.

it’s hardly left him in the gutter has it.

Sure but it is worth remembering that the Championship is a financial bin fire.

Partly him, partly the environment in which we operate.

[BS15_RED]

I’m certainly no fan of SL, indeed I’m one of many people who’ve found themselves blocked by him on Twitter, however I’m very wary of who comes after him. Watching Mission To Burnley on Sky was a real eye opener, absolutely not the sort of people I’d want running my club. 

[lenred]

4 minutes ago, BS15_RED said:

I’m certainly no fan of SL, indeed I’m one of many people who’ve found themselves blocked by him on Twitter, however I’m very wary of who comes after him. Watching Mission To Burnley on Sky was a real eye opener, absolutely not the sort of people I’d want running my club. 

Sort of people who got their team promoted? Who brought in football knowledge when they had little or none themselves?  Who went out and got the best coach available to them whilst also think outside of the box?   Why wouldn’t you? Because of the religion thing? 

[Davefevs]

39 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said:

Would be interesting if SL sold the club to the fans. Clearly a few would have to buy big chunks of shares but the rest would be held by the 20,000 regulars. I wonder:

How many would put their hand in their pocket to buy the shares

How many would accept zero % return on their investment each year

How many would be happy to be continually asked to put their hand in their pocket to top up the coffers to cover our yearly loss.

How we could ever agree on anything such as a new manager

If we would still hear call for big spending

Steve - name your price for the football club and the ground please?  Give us a clue how much you want.  You can keep the rest, not interested in the rest from an investment point of view.

I’d put some money in, and then each year if I thought I had the right owners onboard.

[GrahamC]

16 minutes ago, BS15_RED said:

I’m certainly no fan of SL, indeed I’m one of many people who’ve found themselves blocked by him on Twitter, however I’m very wary of who comes after him. Watching Mission To Burnley on Sky was a real eye opener, absolutely not the sort of people I’d want running my club. 

Burnley have signed about 12 players this summer after getting promoted back to the Prem.

Their fans must be hating every moment, eh?

[frenchred]

17 minutes ago, BS15_RED said:

I’m certainly no fan of SL, indeed I’m one of many people who’ve found themselves blocked by him on Twitter, however I’m very wary of who comes after him. Watching Mission To Burnley on Sky was a real eye opener, absolutely not the sort of people I’d want running my club. 

I know what your saying, must be really shit sitting in the prem with an up and coming young coach

[Ian M]

I’ve seen suggestions along the lines of “Nige knew what the wage cap was, he chose to spend it this way” along with the general conception that we are 2 players short (see Norwich bench for evidence to back that up.

If we presume Cornick to be one our highest earners on around £15k per week and add that many fans fail to see what he brings (not me, I think he has his uses), potentially he would be a good example for someone we could have not signed and bought 3 players instead. To do that, those three players would have had to be signed on less than the League One average salary!

If we want to have a decently sized squad, we are going to have to cost cut yet further and impose a maximum salary of £10k per week and risk the results that players who will accept those terms may bring.

[One Team]

1 hour ago, Ivorguy said:

Nonsense.  I, amongst others, have warned about SL’s stewardship for a number of years now, and taken abuse for it.  It is good to note that others are now coming round to this critique of SL, especially the nonsense that is Bristol Sport.  Thank goodness he never got his hands on Glos cricket!

What’s nonsense? 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Parachute Payments don't half help though. That and a big profit of £36m pre tax in 2021-22 to bolster. Varied PL players retained. Sure they've done well but a good position to enter from.

Birmingham or Hull maybe a better comparison. Let's see how these fare in the next 2-3 years.

[BS15_RED]

31 minutes ago, lenred said:

Sort of people who got their team promoted? Who brought in football knowledge when they had little or none themselves?  Who went out and got the best coach available to them whilst also think outside of the box?   Why wouldn’t you? Because of the religion thing? 

The sort of people who take a club with £42m in the bank, and lumber them with £130m worth of debt….

[milo1111]

44 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Sure but it is worth remembering that the Championship is a financial bin fire.

Partly him, partly the environment in which we operate.

Very true Mr P

Purely down to the riches that exist above I’m sure most will agree. I’m so hoping the Saudi PL changes that over the next few years

[BS15_RED]

23 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Burnley have signed about 12 players this summer after getting promoted back to the Prem.

Their fans must be hating every moment, eh?

 

23 minutes ago, frenchred said:

I know what your saying, must be really shit sitting in the prem with an up and coming young coach

We’ll see how they fare this season, but you won’t convince me that in the long term that they’ll be good for Burnley.

[frenchred]

7 minutes ago, BS15_RED said:

 

We’ll see how they fare this season, but you won’t convince me that in the long term that they’ll be good for Burnley.

And you won't convince me that lansdown will be good for us in the short/mid/long term

[BS15_RED]

3 minutes ago, frenchred said:

And you won't convince me that lansdown will be good for us in the short/mid/long term

Mate, as I said in my original post, I’m not an SL fan, it’s just I’m wary of who comes in after him. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

It would be interesting to try and forecast the future post SL.

Would we want a 2-3 year roll of the dice on promotion? Spending accordingly.

Hire or retain the best in class, build on the good points that we do have and try to improve continuously on the weaker aspects.

Wage bill- how high?

Gross spend- how much?

Or would we risk getting some Private Equity. That can drive standards but if success doesn't arrive in a few years that can also go belly up given we are not a profitable or a cash rich entity in the main.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Red Exile]

9 minutes ago, BS15_RED said:

Mate, as I said in my original post, I’m not an SL fan, it’s just I’m wary of who comes in after him. 

I think we all would be wary, but the reality of professional sport is that it's about ambition. SL has thrown a blanket of unambitious mediocrity over the club for years.

[Mr Popodopolous]

4 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

I think we all would be wary, but the reality of professional sport is that it's about ambition. SL has thrown a blanket of unambitious mediocrity over the club for years.

Two to three years were FFP we were somewhat hamstrung. In part due to his decisions and lack of oversight but a £26.5m in Additions ie 2019-20 as well as the wage bill continuing to rise was a bit of a statement tbh.

Wage bill peaked at £35m in 2020-21.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Red Exile]

1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Two to three years were FFP we were somewhat hamstrung. In part due to his decisions and lack of oversight but a £26.5m in Additions ie 2019-20 as well as the wage bill continuing to rise was a bit of a statement tbh.

Wage bill peaked at £35m in 2020-21.

I'm sure you are correct, but that lack of ambition has a far longer pedigree. My in laws support Hull - two stints in the Prem and a cup final.

[Numero Uno]

7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Two to three years were FFP we were somewhat hamstrung. In part due to his decisions and lack of oversight but a £26.5m in Additions ie 2019-20 as well as the wage bill continuing to rise was a bit of a statement tbh.

Wage bill peaked at £35m in 2020-21.

£35m and let’s be fair we were worse in 2020-21 than we are now. Getting outplayed was the norm. 45 minutes without a shot was not uncommon. It’s borderline criminal how bad we were for that level of spend. We just funded the retirement packages of very mediocre footballers.

[Mr Popodopolous]

3 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

I'm sure you are correct, but that lack of ambition has a far longer pedigree. My in laws support Hull - two stints in the Prem and a cup final.

Ah fair yes.

There is an argument that he lacks ambition, there is also an argument that he lacks timing. By which I mean Janaury 2008...roll that dice! He did not.

After Coppell walked, we went into slight austerity mode. Timing was poor..also Maynard after a great 2009-10 was crocked- some things never change in that respect!

Obviously FFP aside, now was the time now the decks were cleared somewhat to go again a bit. Why couldn't we have been in for O'Brien on loan e.g. he would he a great addition. Both footballing and morale.

Cannon again okay maybe not at £7m, hard to say but earlier in summer he seemed more accessible.

Host of other examples. Patino loan? So frustrating, we have an okay base build on it a bit!

[Barrs Court Red]

A wise man once said “ground, ground, ground but they forgot about the team”.

Like most visionary philosophers through the ages, society shunned and mocked him for his outlandish view. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

8 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

£35m and let’s be fair we were worse in 2020-21 than we are now. Getting outplayed was the norm. 45 minutes without a shot was not uncommon. It’s borderline criminal how bad we were for that level of spend. We just funded the retirement packages of very mediocre footballers.

By that stage a host of factors and yes we were much worse by early 2021. The ship had entirely run aground, sinking actually.

Loads of injuries, morale on the floor, a bloated squad. As you say barely a shot some halves, we looked in no way a cohesive Championship side because well because we were not.

[Davefevs]

11 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

A wise man once said “ground, ground, ground but they forgot about the team”.

Like most visionary philosophers through the ages, society shunned and mocked him for his outlandish view. 

Ipswich - 1980s.

[Sleepy1968]

3 hours ago, glynriley said:

"And is not an Arab" on it as well, just to please a few on here...

There's nothing inherently wrong with Arabs. The problem with is the source of the money. If it's going to be effective State sponsorship, then it's a hard 'no thanks' from me. If the money comes from anywhere else (but where would that be) then I'd do my due diligence before boycotting matches.

[fisherrich]

You can only assume a deal to sell is in the offering to Lansdown. He’s lost interest in the football on the pitch.

[Sleepy1968]

2 hours ago, lenred said:

A nice big fat NDA may put paid to that! I say in jest but wouldn’t put it past them.  

You wouldn't necessarily need that. Maybe a memo from his reporting line could make disclosure a breach of contract, and keep him gagged.

But if they wanted to try and put the frighteners on him  they may have trouble getting him to agree to an NDA.

[Malvern Red]

So grateful to our owner for not accepting mid table mediocrity when there’s the rough and tumble excitement of a relegation dog fight on offer. 

[tin]

So there you have it, @sh1t_ref_again. The wage budget has been set (or “imposed” as you claimed) by the owners - Lansdown. 

[cidered abroad]

38 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

A wise man once said “ground, ground, ground but they forgot about the team”.

Like most visionary philosophers through the ages, society shunned and mocked him for his outlandish view. 

Matt Busby said that you'll get 70,000 in a rubbish tip to watch a great team. But a lot, lot less to watch a poor team in a great stadium.

[Engvall’s Splinter]

Have always felt a sense of gratitude to the Lansdowns for the facilities we’ve been provided with. The training ground and the matchday experience (not always the football) are top notch. Yet the way Pearson appears to be left solely to field commercial/financial questions whilst the CEO and Chairman hide in the shadows is incredibly disappointing. Lansdown has always had his ‘haters’ but those in a similar camp to me will soon sway if this continues. 
 

I feel for Pearson and fear the next appointment if he walks. 

Edited August 31, 2023 by Engvall’s Splinter

[BS15_RED]

 

[Bristol Rob]

Maybe Steve has looked at OTIB and thought....

Hmm, people flying VPN Airways instead of buying season tickets and there are people importing a fake shirt (that everyone hates) and not putting in their cash, I'll do the same.

*Runs away before someone gets on their high-horse and pretends to take offence*

[BigTone]

45 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

Matt Busby said that you'll get 70,000 in a rubbish tip to watch a great team. But a lot, lot less to watch a poor team in a great stadium.

No wonder Rovers are so successful

[George Rs]

Just wondering, apart from his welcome interview, has this Phil Alexander chap said anything even related to the club in the media. 
 

iirc, I felt his first interview was measured and encouraging, however the radio silence since then is concerning at best. Either there is something going on behind the scenes, whatever that may be, or our board just really don’t care about the fans. 

Edited August 31, 2023 by George Rs

[Ian M]

Years ago, in the early days of the internet we had a mailing list called City List where one of the fans went on to become pretty big in F1. Surely he has the contacts from years of being shoulder to shoulder with Team Owners and Sponsors to make something happen?

[Greedo]

2 minutes ago, Ian M said:

Years ago, in the early days of the internet we had a mailing list called City List where one of the fans went on to become pretty big in F1. Surely he has the contacts from years of being shoulder to shoulder with Team Owners and Sponsors to make something happen?

Ross Braun and Jensen Button takeover incoming 

[Mr Popodopolous]

8 minutes ago, George Rs said:

Just wondering, apart from his welcome interview, has this Phil Alexander chap said anything even related to the club in the media. 
 

iirc, I felt his first interview was measured and encouraging, however the radio silence since then is concerning at best. Either there is something going on behind the scenes, whatever that may be, or our board just really don’t care about the fans. 

He spoke about Scott in June and then...since then.

May have been on Sound Of the City or similar once as well. I'm quite unimpressed with him to date, Gould was much better. Thusfar.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Bristol Rob]

7 minutes ago, George Rs said:

Just wondering, apart from his welcome interview, has this Phil Alexander chap said anything even related to the club in the media. 
 

iirc, I felt his first interview was measured and encouraging, however the radio silence since then is concerning at best. Either there is something going on behind the scenes, whatever that may be, or our board just really don’t care about the fans. 

I think what is more shocking is that neither our Head of Communications or our Director of Communications (we have both!) have ever actually communicated. 

You would expect one or the other - or even both of them - to have communicated with their customers to possibly detail the strategy that is causing a lot of frustration amongst Forum users. Maybe they could start with a 'what Phil has been doing since he got here' message. 

[Glen hump]

8 minutes ago, Greedo said:

Ross Braun and Jensen Button takeover incoming 

Lando 

[Bristol Rob]

13 minutes ago, Greedo said:

Ross Braun and Jensen Button takeover incoming 

The Netflix spin-off, "Sell To Survive" is gonna be a must see.

[Barrs Court Red]

It began with the buying of the football club. Promises of top flight football were given to the City fans, immortal, wisest and fairest of all sports fans. Salvation and new facilities were handed to the Rugby club, great oafs and craftsmen of sickening initiation rituals. And money and job titles were gifted to the executives and hangers on, who above all else desire power. For within these gifts was bound the strength and the will to govern each club. But they were all of them deceived, for another organisation was made. Deep in the land of Guernsey, in the Fires of poor decisions and little self awareness, the Dark Lord Lansdown forged a master organisation, and into this he poured his ego, his tax avoidance and his will to dominate all clubs.

Bristol Sport to rule them all.

 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

It began with the buying of the football club. Promises of top flight football were given to the City fans, immortal, wisest and fairest of all sports fans. Salvation and new facilities were handed to the Rugby club, great oafs and craftsmen of sickening initiation rituals. And money and job titles were gifted to the executives and hangers on, who above all else desire power. For within these gifts was bound the strength and the will to govern each club. But they were all of them deceived, for another organisation was made. Deep in the land of Guernsey, in the Fires of poor decisions and little self awareness, the Dark Lord Lansdown forged a master organisation, and into this he poured his ego, his tax avoidance and his will to dominate all clubs.

Bristol Sport to rule them all.

 

built for his future not ours

36 minutes ago, BS15_RED said:

 

well spotted remembered

[richwwtk]

48 minutes ago, Ian M said:

Years ago, in the early days of the internet we had a mailing list called City List where one of the fans went on to become pretty big in F1. Surely he has the contacts from years of being shoulder to shoulder with Team Owners and Sponsors to make something happen?

I think he's moved on beyond F1 now. Still see him post on here occasionally

[Bristol Rob]

5 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

I think he's moved on beyond F1 now. Still see him post on here occasionally

Paul still posts now and again.

[Sleepy1968]

51 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Hmm, people flying VPN Airways instead of buying season tickets and there are people importing a fake shirt (that everyone hates) and not putting in their cash, I'll do the same.

The irony is not lost on me, but to provide a counter-argument: -

Fake shirts: maybe that's partly down to the official ones being of variable quality, their low availabily, and being vastly overpriced (ok, it's the going rate, but it'somly a bloody shirt). Personally I'd rather let my £5 retail voucher gather dust than support the current retail offerings, and look to someone like OTIB merch if I was desperate for something city related.

Streaming games: I imagine quite a few of us back the club with STs and fly VPN Airways for away games only/home games we can't make.

I would never pay the walk up prices, so I can't really complain when some people want to use RTV for home they could get to, however I draw the line at illegal streaming of your own teams game.

[fisherrich]

49 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

I think what is more shocking is that neither our Head of Communications or our Director of Communications (we have both!) have ever actually communicated. 

You would expect one or the other - or even both of them - to have communicated with their customers to possibly detail the strategy that is causing a lot of frustration amongst Forum users. Maybe they could start with a 'what Phil has been doing since he got here' message. 

Picking his nose!

[Bristol Rob]

2 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

The irony is not lost on me, but to provide a counter-argument: -

Fake shirts: maybe that's partly down to the official ones being of variable quality, their low availabily, and being vastly overpriced (ok, it's the going rate, but it'somly a bloody shirt). Personally I'd rather let my £5 retail voucher gather dust than support the current retail offerings, and look to someone like OTIB merch if I was desperate for something city related.

Streaming games: I imagine quite a few of us back the club with STs and fly VPN Airways for away games only/home games we can't make.

I would never pay the walk up prices, so I can't really complain when some people want to use RTV for home they could get to, however I draw the line at illegal streaming of your own teams game.

There will be a fair few who have season tickets and fly VPN for games they can't make, but equally there is probably a similar number which find streams and pay nothing.

As for the pay on the day, unless you're a member, on a mates rate code or able to take advantage of the generosity of a fellow supporter, there must be limited desire to be that customer. It would be like paying full price at DFS or Domino's.

[Mr Popodopolous]

16 minutes ago, Fred89 said:

It’s simple Luton have been to the conference and back and beat us to promotion (making 2 play offs), Brentford League 2 and then 3 championship play off seasons (2 finals) Cardiff have been promoted twice QPR twice, Blackpool have been to the Prem another play off final I could go on and on the continuous sale of our top talents is insane year on year and we just accept it as if it’s the normal So glad Pearson has acknowledged what I have said in my previous posts ! The sale of Scott was totally unnecessary and destroyed our chances this season 

My gut feeling is that you may well be right but that it is also a bit of a way of life at this level.

I'll wait for last years accounts before making a full judgment.

Some of those you listed were in receipt of Parachute Payments in the year of it run up to promotion. Some however were not.

Non Parachute

Luton

Brentford

Cardiff Promotion 1

QPR Promotion 1

Blackpool Promotion 1

Parachute

Cardiff Promotion 2

QPR Promotion 2

Blackpool Losing Play-off final

Luton and Brentford got promoted in the advent of FFP sans Parachutes.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Fred89 said:

It’s simple Luton have been to the conference and back and beat us to promotion (making 2 play offs), Brentford League 2 and then 3 championship play off seasons (2 finals) Cardiff have been promoted twice QPR twice, Blackpool have been to the Prem another play off final I could go on and on the continuous sale of our top talents is insane year on year and we just accept it as if it’s the normal So glad Pearson has acknowledged what I have said in my previous posts ! The sale of Scott was totally unnecessary and destroyed our chances this season 

top post

[mozo]

As many have said, the best response is to support the team. Ironically, any success they have will in Lansdown's mind vindicate his actions. 

[Sleepy1968]

11 minutes ago, Fred89 said:

The sale of Scott was totally unnecessary and destroyed our chances this season 

everything not quoted.

Personally, I'd agree re Scott: as a fan I'd clearly liked him to stay for the season.

However, the club would be considering how desperate he was to leave in this window (I think he wanted to go), and the risk of his value decreasing over the season. In this case we'd likely have got 'value on the pitch' if we kept him provided he remained committed to us mentally.

[Mr Popodopolous]

How long is he out for anyway. Injured isn't he.

[fisherrich]

1 minute ago, mozo said:

As many have said, the best response is to support the team. Ironically, any success they have will in Lansdown's mind vindicate his actions. 

I have been anti Bristol Sport concept for some time on here. We should support the team, but Lansdown has a different agenda going forward. So now is the time for Lansdown to go, as Bristol City FC will be here a lot longer than Lansdown and his entourage. Owners come and go but BCFC will survive.
We need new blood and fresh ideas - and most importantly some PASSIONATE OWNERS.

 

 

[wendyredredrobin]

12 hours ago, mozo said:

Meanwhile Brighton (Brighton!) have signed Ansu Fati on loan from Barcelona...

Reminds me of when we signed Lee Tomlin.

But on the subject of Steve Lansdown, I think he probably feels that he has chucked enough money down the drain as far as BCFC are concerned and may well be looking for a way out but possibly feels that BCFC is actually worth a lot more than it really is.

And so far as Jon is concerned, it does seem to me that he is chairman on paper but as far as I can tell, it's no more than 'on paper' though I suspect he is getting a tidy annual salary from the club for not doing anything whilst the playing side is having to tighten its purse strings.

I wonder how many others are employed by the club for doing very little tbh.

Edited August 31, 2023 by wendyredredrobin

[sugarwray]

SL is passionate about the club, be careful what you wish for. I trust him to act in the best interests of the club. Like so many others on this forum, when he wakes up tomorrow the City result is the first thing on his mind. Compare with other owners.

[NewForestRed]

Should have given Pearson some money to spend then

[Mr Popodopolous]

8 minutes ago, sugarwray said:

SL is passionate about the club, be careful what you wish for. I trust him to act in the best interests of the club. Like so many others on this forum, when he wakes up tomorrow the City result is the first thing on his mind. Compare with other owners.

I wonder if his interest is on the wane a bit.

The move to Guernsey, the age. Other projects...sometimes leaders run their course.

[Mr Popodopolous]

9 minutes ago, Fred89 said:

Burnley 3 promotions 

Leicester and Southampton, Leeds went to League 1 and sat there for years we were ahead of those team’s financially for years they were loaning players of us in the case of Leeds ! Sounds ridiculous when you consider Leicester have won the Premiership Fa Cup and been in a Champions League quarterfinal but it is a fact we were ahead of them for a period but just stood still

Its a pattern going back to selling Scott Murray and selling Leroy Lita one good season we sell our best players we make it easy!

Are you telling me the clubs I have mentioned didn’t have players capable of playing in the Premier League that they kept around and resisted cashing in ?

You don’t sell players at the first opportunity when they show signs they can take us up , you are all blind! 

If you are a serious club and you unearth a talent like Scott you push the boat out triple his wages and give him a sell out clause in January it’s a risk ! We have been fooled year on year made to think we can’t attract top players because we are too far south meanwhile Hull City can be promoted more than once and remain as competitive as we have ever been we are losers as a fan base aswell as a club! 
Keep talented players who have a good season, pay the wages of top players when the manager and talented players are in place!

Are you factoring in FFP and Parachute Payments also? Leicester, Leeds and Southampton are all bigger clubs than us past and present.

All of them were ahead of us commercially speaking but maybe not other areas

Hull beat us in that final and PL momey, Parachute money and new owners wanting to give something back to Hull set them up to go again. Promotion 2 and 3 they were in receipt of Parachute Payments, their new ground also gave them a commercial advantage.

There were definitely times whereby we didn't capitalise. January 2008 springs to mind. Now is another- mixed bag on summer of 2015, yes and no.

Agree on Scott tbh, if only eh.

What is really inexcusable having gone through tough cuts and sold Scott is giving NP so little. This is appalling after all the hard work he has done.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[sugarwray]

12 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I wonder if his interest is on the wane a bit.

The move to Guernsey, the age. Other projects...sometimes leaders run their course.

He has earned the right to make the move he chooses, no one in the history of the club has poured money in to support their passion like he has. I thank him for everything he has done to date and hope for the best going forward. Things could always be better but I feel for those fans who have to live with the reality that their owners don’t wake up wanting nothing more than success for the club they love.

[Superjack]

I'm not joking. If I read the words "Be careful what you wish for" once more I swear I'll ****ing scream! It's like the ****ing parrot cage in a zoo.

 

 

I wonder what the next post will say....

Edited August 31, 2023 by Superjack

[Mr Popodopolous]

7 minutes ago, sugarwray said:

He has earned the right to make the move he chooses, no one in the history of the club has poured money in to support their passion like he has. I thank him for everything he has done to date and hope for the best going forward. Things could always be better but I feel for those fans who have to live with the reality that their owners don’t wake up wanting nothing more than success for the club they love.

I give SL credit for a lot of things but at the same time we need a balance.

He has done quite a lot of good things especially building up infrastructure but are you happy with £25m for Scott and the door marked "In" being shut?

If there is some sort of a change of strategy maybe with investment in mind then commercial confidentiality notwithstanding- tell us.

If there are any loose ends at all pertaining to FFP monitoring that we are still working through (I doubt it now)- tell us!

The void from the top, him, his son and the new CEO leaving NP to tackle the issues really is poor.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Kingswood Robin]

1 minute ago, Superjack said:

I'm not joking. If I read the words "Be careful what you wish for" once more I swear I'll ****ing scream! It's like the ****ing parrot cage in a zoo.

 

 

I wonder what the next post will say....

Don't go outside your front door

[Baldyman]

3 hours ago, Fred89 said:

It’s simple Luton have been to the conference and back and beat us to promotion (making 2 play offs), Brentford League 2 and then 3 championship play off seasons (2 finals) Cardiff have been promoted twice QPR twice, Blackpool have been to the Prem another play off final I could go on and on the continuous sale of our top talents is insane year on year and we just accept it as if it’s the normal So glad Pearson has acknowledged what I have said in my previous posts ! The sale of Scott was totally unnecessary and destroyed our chances this season 

Have to admit to feeling like a total mug spunking £600 on a season ticket when it’s abundantly clear the Lansdowns no longer wish to play at being a Championship club , let alone a Prem team . We have stayed up for the last 3 years due to a fast start but this year I can’t see where the next goal will come from , let alone a win ! Relegation written all over this rag tag squad sadly

[Superjack]

1 minute ago, Kingswood Robin said:

Don't go outside your front door

Damn! I was ready with "Who's a pretty boy then?".

[Mr Popodopolous]

4 minutes ago, Baldyman said:

Have to admit to feeling like a total mug spunking £600 on a season ticket when it’s abundantly clear the Lansdowns no longer wish to play at being a Championship club , let alone a Prem team . We have stayed up for the last 3 years due to a fast start but this year I can’t see where the next goal will come from , let alone a win ! Relegation written all over this rag tag squad sadly

I don't see us going down so long as we keep NP.

Injuries and lack of depth are a concern though.

[Superjack]

5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I don't see us going down so long as we keep NP.

Injuries and lack of depth are a concern though.

Oh dear.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Superjack

[Baldyman]

27 minutes ago, Fred89 said:

Burnley 3 promotions 

Leicester and Southampton, Leeds went to League 1 and sat there for years we were ahead of those team’s financially for years they were loaning players of us in the case of Leeds ! Sounds ridiculous when you consider Leicester have won the Premiership Fa Cup and been in a Champions League quarterfinal but it is a fact we were ahead of them for a period but just stood still

Its a pattern going back to selling Scott Murray and selling Leroy Lita one good season we sell our best players we make it easy!

Are you telling me the clubs I have mentioned didn’t have players capable of playing in the Premier League that they kept around and resisted cashing in ?

You don’t sell players at the first opportunity when they show signs they can take us up , you are all blind! 

If you are a serious club and you unearth a talent like Scott you push the boat out triple his wages and give him a sell out clause in January it’s a risk ! We have been fooled year on year made to think we can’t attract top players because we are too far south meanwhile Hull City can be promoted more than once and remain as competitive as we have ever been we are losers as a fan base aswell as a club! 
Keep talented players who have a good season, pay the wages of top players when the manager and talented players are in place!

We touted Scott for sale for the past 12 months and treated him like a cash cow rather than the key to getting up . The club has zero ambition which is why we now have NINE former players all playing in the Prem now . I can’t think of a single Championship club that has ever sold as many players to the Prem as us . We’re an embarrassment to the Sport and the Lansdowns have totally forgotten that this is what it is !!!! I’ve always supported Lansdown when others have questioned his actions but to have almost an entire team leave us for the Prem is shameful and scandalous . He needs to find a buyer pronto and retire I’m afraid because he has lost site of the fact that this is a SPORT !!! 

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 minute ago, Baldyman said:

We touted Scott for sale for the past 12 months and treated him like a cash cow rather than the key to getting up . The club has zero ambition which is why we now have NINE former players all playing in the Prem now . I can’t think of a single Championship club that has ever sold as many players to the Prem as us . We’re an embarrassment to the Sport and the Lansdowns have totally forgotten that this is what it is !!!! I’ve always supported Lansdown when others have questioned his actions but to have almost an entire team leave us for the Prem is shameful and scandalous . He needs to find a buyer pronto and retire I’m afraid because he has lost site of the fact that this is a SPORT !!! 

Loads tbh .Loads of Championship clubs sell their best. How far back to you want to go.

I'm not sure we are a wild outlier. Part of it was as our costs were so high, in the case of Bryan and Reid their contracts were up within a year and there was a question of FFP.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous