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5 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Brilliant save.

Heard 2 morons on the walk out saying that’s why he’s not a striker.

Absolutely no idea what they’re watching, completely clueless.

I presume you called them morons and clueless to their faces?!

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1 minute ago, transfer reader said:

Just accept it was a good save and he won't need to.

Just accept other people's opinions and we won't resort to name-calling ??

I thought it was a decent attempt. I didn't like him needlessly losing the ball in the middle of the park, but he wasn't on for long.

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3 minutes ago, mozo said:

I presume you called them morons and clueless to their faces?!

One of them decided it was funny to try & push a bloke on his moped over as he left AG so made the decision the 3 of them probably weren’t up for an intellectual debate.

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Dunno how anyone can say he should lift it as the keeper goes early… he doesn’t go until the ball is struck. Cornick does everything right given the ball shouldn’t even get to him because of defender error. It’s a great save. Only a ‘proper’ finisher scores that, ala someone who’s good at instinctive finishing and probably nothing else. 
 

As someone above said, if it’s anyone other than Cornick it’s not even a conversation. If Conway/Bell has that chance it’s a great save and that’s the end of it

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Two things from me:

1) He worked the keeper into a reaction save, so it was a decent save IMO. Had he failed to test the keeper, he’d be more deserving of the pelters he’s getting now.

2) And this is the bigger point, the game should’ve been sewn up by half-time had we taken any of the previous chances we passed up. 

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1 hour ago, bexhill reds said:

Said on the match thread that if anything he hit it too well and ended up pulling it centrally, any less of a touch and that’s in the corner.

One of the most ridiculous things commentators say. 
 

How can you do something “too well”

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4 minutes ago, tin said:

Two things from me:

1) He worked the keeper into a reaction save, so it was a decent save IMO. Had he failed to test the keeper, he’d be more deserving of the pelters he’s getting now.

 

The vast majority who have replied to this thread are in agreement it was a very good save, not sure why you think he's getting pelters as he's not,

I personally think if he would have started the game he would have took one of those changes in the first half

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44 minutes ago, frenchred said:

Really? Were you there?

Stupid questIon

Edit - I’ve now watched the replay and it’s even worse. He shot straight at the keeper. Aim for the corner and it would have been a goal 

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2 minutes ago, winsaw said:

The vast majority who have replied to this thread are in agreement it was a very good save, not sure why you think he's getting pelters as he's not,

 

I made the mistake of reading Facebook comments earlier, he's definitely getting pelters.

Social media turns out to be full of over the top reactions, who'd have thought it?!

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2 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

So, being generous, he looked the epitome of mediocre when he signed.  “Give him time” people said last season, which is fair.  
 

So 9 months in let’s be honest, he’s miles off the standard required.  I don’t blame the guy, but chances like that need to be taken.  

As does the open goal we missed first half, the one that had it been Cornick who missed it people would be saying forget the angle it’s an open goal and he’s a pro footballer……….

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3 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

So, being generous, he looked the epitome of mediocre when he signed.  “Give him time” people said last season, which is fair.  
 

So 9 months in let’s be honest, he’s miles off the standard required.  I don’t blame the guy, but chances like that need to be taken.  

Strange thing is, that if we hadn't scouted him and signed him, he would probably be playing in the Premier League now.

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33 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

Stupid questIon

Edit - I’ve now watched the replay and it’s even worse. He shot straight at the keeper. Aim for the corner and it would have been a goal 

It’s also possible the defender gets to it if he tries to go more for the far corner.

Its a good chance, it’s a good save, it can be both…as a fan of the team who has the chance, you want to say “he should score”.  But it’s a snapshot under pressure.

 

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According to xG (sofascore) it’s a 0.24 chance…the fact that he got it on target, increases the xGOT (xg on target) to 0.55.

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Couldn’t make it today. I’m not a Cornick hater but not a (big) fan either. Needs to be given more time, we all know he’s not a replacement for someone like TC. Looked a good save.  IMHO my criticism would be after taking it down well the natural finish would firm contact and low near post. Then if the Keeper saves it then no complaints. 

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15 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

So, being generous, he looked the epitome of mediocre when he signed.  “Give him time” people said last season, which is fair.  
 

So 9 months in let’s be honest, he’s miles off the standard required.  I don’t blame the guy, but chances like that need to be taken.  

He needs to play centrally. Like he always has. He was absolutely brilliant in his cameo at Swansea and dragged us toward FT with some of his hold up play and FKs won to slow time down. He’s absolutely not a winger.  

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It's so easy to sit in the stands or watch a replay and say what players should have done. Why didn't they hit the cross to the back post, why didn't they hit it low and hard, why didn't he pass it 50 yards to the player in space, shoot low, lift it over, whatever.

Say you're at full sprint with a player breathing down your neck, glancing into a crowded box trying to pick your cross, making that split second decision isn't as easy. In Cornick's case when he was in the box maybe he glanced at the keeper, saw him still on his feet, glanced at the ball and hit it low and in that time he'd gone down. He's not looking at the bird's eye view we've got.

I think he took a great touch, hit it low and on target - it's a good shot, and a good save for me. Both Cornick and the keeper deserve praise imo.

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Seeing as this has been dragged into another Cornick appraisal thread... I've got nothing against him, but it's clearly not a good sign that he's struggling for gametime despite Weimann and Conway being injured. Forget the twitter comments and witch hunt stuff, the most important factor is that Nige doesn't see him as high up the pecking order. 

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Let me make one thing clear, Cornick didn't do anything particularly wrong in that game.

I am amused however by some posters here who respond to any criticism of the man as if someone had insulted their own mothers.

Only Pearson provokes a greater circling of waggons response. 

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15 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

It’s also possible the defender gets to it if he tries to go more for the far corner.

Its a good chance, it’s a good save, it can be both…as a fan of the team who has the chance, you want to say “he should score”.  But it’s a snapshot under pressure.

 

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According to xG (sofascore) it’s a 0.24 chance…the fact that he got it on target, increases the xGOT (xg on target) to 0.55.

There are obviously different ways to look at any situation but, to me, it’s a perfect example of why City has only scored 5 goals in 6 games. It’s not just Cornick. Overall, though there’s lots of good buildup, there there just aren’t goals in the team.  To push for the playoffs a team must have forwards, midfielders and defenders who chip in with a few goals. This just isn’t City at the moment. The stats for today’s game show City had 14 shots with only 3 on target. Of the 3 on target Cornick’s was the best chance. The rest were powderpuff efforts. A lot of the 11 shots that were off target were hopeless shots from good positions that should, at least, have tested the keeper. 
 

(Even worse for WBA - no shots on target even though they had some good possession / attacks in the second half) 

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4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Let me make one thing clear, Cornick didn't do anything particularly wrong in that game.

I am amused however by some posters here who respond to any criticism of the man as if someone had insulted their own mothers.

Only Pearson provokes a greater circling of waggons response. 

Think it’s more people responding to others who come across as having clear agendas - to see that chance as a sitter is ludicrous in my view, whether assessing by own eyes or xG. Most games would end 9-7 based on the views of a fair few on here and we’d need a lot more threads about specific chances. 

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1 hour ago, pongo88 said:

Stupid questIon

Edit - I’ve now watched the replay and it’s even worse. He shot straight at the keeper. Aim for the corner and it would have been a goal 

In situations such as this one, many strikers aim for the keeper, knowing that he will spread himself and the ball goes through his legs. 
Lots of goals are scored between the keepers legs. 
It was a good chance, he tried to keep it low and under the keeper but the keeper got a good leg to it and so it goes down as a good save. 

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38 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Sykes chance was a worse miss for me, especially if we are all in agreement that his quality levels are higher than Cornick’s…………

I thought Wells’ chance in the first half was the better chance of any of these. 
Wells gets a good first touch, out of his feet, clear sight at goal 15 yards out. He scuffs a weak left foot shot straight at the keeper. 
THAT was the best chance of the game. 
But of course, Cornick gets all the blame. 

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6 minutes ago, The Swan and Cemetery said:

Think it’s more people responding to others who come across as having clear agendas - to see that chance as a sitter is ludicrous in my view, whether assessing by own eyes or xG. Most games would end 9-7 based on the views of a fair few on here and we’d need a lot more threads about specific chances. 

It looked a sitter at first from my angle,  but when you see it closer, he gets the ball, when the keeper was already making himself large.

It was score-able, but not my definition of "a sitter". 

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1 minute ago, Harry said:

I thought Wells’ chance in the first half was the better chance of any of these. 
Wells gets a good first touch, out of his feet, clear sight at goal 15 yards out. He scuffs a weak left foot shot straight at the keeper. 
THAT was the best chance of the game. 
But of course, Cornick gets all the blame. 

Did the defender get a piece of it?

It was almost too good a touch, think he would’ve preferred room to have a “swing at it”???

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1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Did the defender get a piece of it?

It was almost too good a touch, think he would’ve preferred room to have a “swing at it”???

I thought it was a great first touch and set him up for a clear shot with no defender in the way. Wells scuffed it from my angle. 

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23 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Let me make one thing clear, Cornick didn't do anything particularly wrong in that game.

I am amused however by some posters here who respond to any criticism of the man as if someone had insulted their own mothers.

Only Pearson provokes a greater circling of waggons response. 

Its laughable

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