Cornicks chance…

[Harry]

3 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Thanks

Pleasure

[Hello Dave]

2 hours ago, frenchred said:

Really? Were you there?

I take it you didn’t go to the father in laws party?

[David Brent]

1 hour ago, Super said:

You can imagine Kane missing that in the World Cup. Nobody would be saying great save. Hilarious stuff.

Take the emotion out of it. It’s simply a great save. Surely you can admit that. 
 

..obviously not

Edited September 16, 2023 by David Brent

[Super]

3 minutes ago, David Brent said:

Take the emotion out of it. It’s simply a great save. Surely you can admit that. 

I said it's a decent save. We need to improve our finishing that is obvious.

Edited September 16, 2023 by Super

[Charlie BCFC]

3 hours ago, old_eastender said:

Should score, hit it low right or into the roof of the net & keepers got no chance. He hit it low left and enabled the good save. Nicely chested down though.

Easier said than done, with the keeper closing him down and a defender right next to him it’s hard to score 

[Mr Popodopolous]

We had 4 goals disallowed in 2 games, some sides don't get that in a season.

All the same the finishing. Yeah the build up play is improving all the time but the finishing or should I say conversion rate arguably it needs some work.

5 goals from 77 shots, zero penalties, zero one goals. 77 shots in 6 games is rather respectable, the ratio however...

[Ashtongreight]

Good effort, good save. When things are going for you they go under the keeper, when they aren’t it hits the keepers legs. 

[Redtrojan]

Cornick reminds me a lot of David Clarkson ,not fast ,not very good in the air and not particularly skilful.But every so often he does something good.

David Clarkson was a disappointment overall unfortunately .I think I’ve seen enough now to suggest Cornick is likely to follow a similar trajectory . 
Be nice to be proved wrong,but not expecting it.

The more worrying thing ,is with limited funds we really need our recruitment to be spot on,the scatter gun days are behind us.

[Shauntaylor85]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

I thought Wells’ chance in the first half was the better chance of any of these. 
Wells gets a good first touch, out of his feet, clear sight at goal 15 yards out. He scuffs a weak left foot shot straight at the keeper. 
THAT was the best chance of the game. 
But of course, Cornick gets all the blame. 

Wells hasn’t got finishing boots on this season. 5 goals in six games shows our issue, putting the ball in the net. Need Tommy back asap. 

[JAWS]

Good save but the shot is still too close to the keeper. I don't think people would make as much of an issue of it if Cornick hadn't missed relatively easy chances before. Not sure why people would think fans go out of their way to target Cornick. Its nothing personal, he's just not cut the mustard so far and he's had enough chances. Can't fault his effort but you can his quality. Poor signing in my view & wasn't better than what we already had & NP has previously stated he wouldn't sign players if they weren't better than what we already had. 

[AppyDAZE]

Sam Bell missed an easier chance this season, but I'm still trying to find the thread for that one btw

Hey, I'm not knocking Sam, he's been improving week by week, but I'm just so sick of this Harry Cornick witch hunt, it's going beyond a joke now.

I'm of the opinion that if he got enough time on the pitch in that position, he could end up surprising a few people.

Get off the lad's back, he is a good character, liked by Nige and in my opinion, been signaled out from the word go very, very unfairly.

Oh and by the way,  can anyone tell me how constant criticism could possible help the player in question?

It just puts more and more pressure on anyone.

Cornick hasn't been great so far, but I am old enough to rememebr the days when Brian Tinnion and Keith Welch and others, were abused and spat at by those who thought they knew what was best for BCFC at the time.

Step back, give the guy some room and much less pressure, and I am convinced you will see a totally different player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Maltshoveller]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

Keepers are allowed to make saves you know. 
It can be a good chance AND a good save. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. 

On otib it has to be

If your a fan of the City player then it is a great save

If the City player is one of the scape goats it is then a Sitter

Simple otib stuff 

[JAWS]

4 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Sam Bell missed an easier chance this season, but I'm still trying to find the thread for that one btw

Hey, I'm not knocking Sam, he's been improving week by week, but I'm just so sick of this Harry Cornick witch hunt, it's going beyond a joke now.

I'm of the opinion that if he got enough time on the pitch in that position, he could end up surprising a few people.

Get off the lad's back, he is a good character, liked by Nige and in my opinion, been signaled out from the word go very, very unfairly.

Oh and by the way,  can anyone tell me how constant criticism could possible help the player in question?

It just puts more and more pressure on anyone.

Cornick hasn't been great so far, but I am old enough to rememebr the days when Brian Tinnion and Keith Welch and others, were abused and spat at by those who thought they knew what was best for BCFC at the time.

Step back, give the guy some room and much less pressure, and I am convinced you will see a totally different player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As i said, nothing personal, speak as i find and seen nothing so far to convince me he will improve us

[Davefevs]

9 minutes ago, JAWS said:

Good save but the shot is still too close to the keeper. I don't think people would make as much of an issue of it if Cornick hadn't missed relatively easy chances before. Not sure why people would think fans go out of their way to target Cornick. Its nothing personal, he's just not cut the mustard so far and he's had enough chances. Can't fault his effort but you can his quality. Poor signing in my view & wasn't better than what we already had & NP has previously stated he wouldn't sign players if they weren't better than what we already had. 

He was brought in the improve upon Chris Martin.

And now you know of the budget constraints Nige / Tins are working on, despite hoping to have more resources, perhaps you’ll consider that too in some signings?

[Lew-T]

I don’t think Cornick could do anymore tbh. Good save

[Lew-T]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

Keepers are allowed to make saves you know. 
It can be a good chance AND a good save. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. 

And this is my view. Cornick was in a good position, good touch and good enough strike.

Keeper was on it.

[JAWS]

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

He was brought in the improve upon Chris Martin.

And now you know of the budget constraints Nige / Tins are working on, despite hoping to have more resources, perhaps you’ll consider that too in some signings?

Yes I have sympathy of course with NP but think he was a panic buy and the wages could've been better utilised 

[JAWS]

People don't generally go out of their way to criticise a player for the sake of it

[AppyDAZE]

3 minutes ago, JAWS said:

People don't generally go out of their way to criticise a player for the sake of it

A shame there wasn't a forum in the 90s then.

Brian Tinnion would have rightfully been labelled a flop from the off.

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Edited September 16, 2023 by AppyDAZE

[formerly known as ivan]

Bit of both this one… it was a great save, however a decent striker doesn’t give the keeper a chance to make the save.

Im not a fan of Cornick, but this isn’t a dig at him, it’s fact. He is not a natural goal scorer.

Wells or Conway, that’s a goal.

[AppyDAZE]

7 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Bit of both this one… it was a great save, however a decent striker doesn’t give the keeper a chance to make the save.

Im not a fan of Cornick, but this isn’t a dig at him, it’s fact. He is not a natural goal scorer.

Wells or Conway, that’s a goal.

Not there the other week when Wells missed what was pretty much an open goal then?

Again, I'm struggling to find the thread for that one

Edited September 16, 2023 by AppyDAZE

[bexhill reds]

2 hours ago, 54-46 said:

One of the most ridiculous things commentators say. 
 

How can you do something “too well”

Not really, to use a cricketing analogy, rather than the chip shot just dropping in front of mid-off he ended up giving it a full blooded drive right down his throat. So it this case he managed to get his left foot right around it hence dragging his shot towards the centre of goal rather than the right hand corner, that’s how you can do it too well.

[JAWS]

15 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

A shame there wasn't a forum in the 90s then.

Brian Tinnion would have rightfully been labelled a flop from the off.

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I watched tinman when he joined and can only remember good things especially early performance v sags. BUT if he wasn't great then why is it wrong to comment on it? People genuinely say what they see & think & aren't deliberately going out of their way to ruin a player. Cornick so far has been underwhelming for the amount of game time he has had.

[JAWS]

13 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Not there the other week when Wells missed what was pretty much an open goal then?

Again, I'm struggling to find the thread for that one

The difference is Wells has convinced most during his time that he is a worth his place. Cornick hasn't 

[formerly known as ivan]

20 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Not there the other week when Wells missed what was pretty much an open goal then?

Again, I'm struggling to find the thread for that one

Genuinely don’t remember that one

[AppyDAZE]

lky

12 minutes ago, JAWS said:

I watched tinman when he joined and can only remember good things especially early performance v sags. BUT if he wasn't great then why is it wrong to comment on it? People genuinely say what they see & think & aren't deliberately going out of their way to ruin a player. Cornick so far has been underwhelming for the amount of game time he has had.

Tinnion struggled like **** in his early days at BCFC. Either go and do your homework or even go and ask the great man himself, the BCFC legend.

Edited September 16, 2023 by AppyDAZE

[54-46]

4 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

lky

Tinnion struggled like **** in his early days at BCFC. Go and do your homework or even go and ask the great man himself, the BCFC legend.

Yes. Remember him getting loads off the Dolman and giving a few gestures back during an off spell

[JAWS]

5 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

lky

Tinnion struggled like **** in his early days at BCFC. Either go and do your homework or even go and ask the great man himself, the BCFC legend.

It's OK I don't mind if my recollection wasn't accurate. My point is if he wasn't good then what is wrong with criticism if it's what people observe? Why say someone is good if they're clearly not? 

[JAWS]

I've not witnessed any abuse towards cornick from the stands or certainly not to an extent he would be aware of, people are generally supportive to be fair and the negative observations have been mainly confined to this forum but I think they are warranted. Fans obviously want him to do well but so far he's not making a great impression from a quality point of view. Can't fault his effort

[Fordy62]

Cornick has pretty much done everything he needed to there. 

That touch and shot in those circumstances yields a goal 9 times out of 10. 

It’s an excellent save. 

[JAWS]

2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Cornick has pretty much done everything he needed to there. 

That touch and shot in those circumstances yields a goal 9 times out of 10. 

It’s an excellent save. 

Too close to the keeper

[REDOXO]

3 minutes ago, JAWS said:

Too close to the keeper

Yep. I guess you could argue that with every shot ever saved. 
 

 

[Out of his pie crust]

Few people can’t wait to jump on certain players when they makes mistakes/ miss chances. Always has been the way. Strange, might as well just realize all our ladsll make mistakes. Don’t matter, support em anyway

[mozo]

2 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

Let me make one thing clear, Cornick didn't do anything particularly wrong in that game.

I am amused however by some posters here who respond to any criticism of the man as if someone had insulted their own mothers.

Only Pearson provokes a greater circling of waggons response. 

Yep, it's OTT positivity to combat the OTT negativity, in the belief that two wrongs make a right! 

44 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Not there the other week when Wells missed what was pretty much an open goal then?

Again, I'm struggling to find the thread for that one

We've had plenty of debate about Wells on OTIB to be fair, especially when he first joined and his overall persona seemed very different. We've been arguing about whether he's the natural goalscorer we were expecting for three years now.

 

My issue is that I don't think Nige knew what he was getting with Cornick, and he's tried to give him a chance in the Sykes role, but Sykes is clearly the more effective player. Cornice definitely isn't an awful footballer, but he's also not looking like he'll be more than back up.

[candygram for mongo]

I’m not a Cornick hater but it’s a bad miss, can’t believe the support for the keeper.

[GrahamC]

51 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Genuinely don’t remember that one

Birmingham? Centre of the goal? We’re down to 10 men? Poor effort.

Big fan of Nakhi, but that was a bad miss to not even hit the target.

[Kid in the Riot]

8 minutes ago, candygram for mongo said:

I’m not a Cornick hater but it’s a bad miss, can’t believe the support for the keeper.

Na, definitely not a "bad miss". Firstly, Cornick does well to bring the ball down in that position off his chest.

He's probably only 9 yards out when he strikes the ball, but the keeper closes the distance to about 3 yards, making it very difficult to beat him. Keeper has done well here.

[candygram for mongo]

Can’t agree with you there, he has the whole goal to aim at and a decent striker scores that all day long, 100% bad miss

[Port Said Red]

7 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Na, definitely not a "bad miss". Firstly, Cornick does well to bring the ball down in that position off his chest.

He's probably only 9 yards out when he strikes the ball, but the keeper closes the distance to about 3 yards, making it very difficult to beat him. Keeper has done well here.

 

4 minutes ago, candygram for mongo said:

Can’t agree with you there, he has the whole goal to aim at and a decent striker scores that all day long, 100% bad miss

When your luck's in the keeper gets a hand or leg to it and it still flicks off him into the net. When your luck's out, like today, he gets enough on it to save it. I think the one thing you will find with Cornick is that he will keep getting in those positions and keep buying a ticket until his luck changes.

[Rocking Red Cyril]

It was a great save. His contact was too good. Mis kick that and it's in 

[Mr Popodopolous]

21 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Birmingham? Centre of the goal? We’re down to 10 men? Poor effort.

Big fan of Nakhi, but that was a bad miss to not even hit the target.

Yes although we were down to 10, who knows how that may have changed the game.

Birmingham may have had to come out a bit more. The crowd mood would have been transformed-, perhaps a small sense of injustice at the 2nd yellow for Dickie. Had to score from there.

[Kid in the Riot]

14 minutes ago, candygram for mongo said:

he has the whole goal to aim at

That is true of any shot from anywhere on the pitch

Problem is, in football, there are goalkeepers. They try and stop shots from outfield players, and in this instance WBAs keeper was 3 yards in front of Cornick. That reduces his chances of scoring quite significantly. As pointed out by others, best thing to do is hit low around the keepers legs, which is what Cornick did. Unfortunately, didn't come off on this occasion. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

53 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

 

When your luck's in the keeper gets a hand or leg to it and it still flicks off him into the net. When your luck's out, like today, he gets enough on it to save it. I think the one thing you will find with Cornick is that he will keep getting in those positions and keep buying a ticket until his luck changes.

Agreed on this.

I remember last year our luck was out, on Boxing Day v West Brom actually. They eventually ran away with it but a similar luck dependent scenario- they were getting on a run, we were in a rut.

Goal down and fairly even in parts 1st half- Phillips headed against his own bar/post. That goes in big boost to us, setback for WBA. Had we been in the strong form I bet it goes in! Game would have changed had it done so.

Edited September 16, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[PooPants]

3 hours ago, Redtrojan said:

Cornick reminds me a lot of David Clarkson ,not fast ,not very good in the air and not particularly skilful.But every so often he does something good.

David Clarkson was a disappointment overall unfortunately .I think I’ve seen enough now to suggest Cornick is likely to follow a similar trajectory . 
Be nice to be proved wrong,but not expecting it.

The more worrying thing ,is with limited funds we really need our recruitment to be spot on,the scatter gun days are behind us.

He’s chaotic but in a good way. It was a good save but whenever he’s been on the pitch (or the touch line) things have happened this season. 

Edited September 16, 2023 by PooPants

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Na, definitely not a "bad miss". Firstly, Cornick does well to bring the ball down in that position off his chest.

He's probably only 9 yards out when he strikes the ball, but the keeper closes the distance to about 3 yards, making it very difficult to beat him. Keeper has done well here.

And a defender sliding in on him too.

[SouthS22]

58 minutes ago, PooPants said:

He’s chaotic but in a good way. It was a good save but whenever he’s been on the pitch (or the touch line) things have happened this season. 

No goals, no assists, no goal involvements, no successful crosses, today the only shot so far this season.    I’m not sure where the happening is there.  
 

it was a good touch today to set up the chance, but the touch doesn’t matter unless the chance is taken.  It wasn’t, and from where I was sitting it was a miss, though the goalkeeper also did well. 
 

I was hoping after a pre-season that Cornick would kick on this year.  Only fleeting glimpses of any progression so far, though I can’t criticise his work rate.   

Good contrast can be made with Yeboah.  Exciting prospect, fast, strong, unpredictable, and excellent work rate.  

[maxjak]

7 hours ago, CiderJar said:

The keeper spread himself well and it hit his leg. Decent save but if he scuffs it he scores. He needs to work on scuffing at the right time. He hit it too well. 

 

(I'm joking, nobody works on scuffing, apart from scuffers).

Fair a scuff!  But That's just scuff and nonsense...............   i'll get me coat......   

Edited September 17, 2023 by maxjak

[The turtle]

He should score. We can get technical, but he put himself in a position from where he should score.

It's a good save, but a poor finish.

[Severn Beach Pigeon]

7 hours ago, JAWS said:

The difference is Wells has convinced most during his time that he is a worth his place. Cornick hasn't 

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After his first half season the most comments on here was he was a waste of money.

[BCFC31]

Unbelievable save from the keeper who rushed out very quickly to gobble the danger 

[BCFC31]

For balance though I don't rate cornick one single bit! Looks like he won a chance to play for us.

[old_eastender]

In the heat of the moment I thought it was an awful miss, that's unfair, but still think on balance he should score but more 60/40.

Overall I don't understand why we signed him, Luton fans said his best position was playing inside forward off a target man... we don't have a target man in the entire squad!

Think that's 20 appearances now and 1 goal. Poor return for any forward.

[Bristol Oil Services]

1 hour ago, BCFC31 said:

For balance though I don't rate cornick one single bit! Looks like he won a chance to play for us.

Bit harsh, mate. Safe to say though, Harry won't be the one Stevie Guernsey sells for £25 millions next summer to top up his "nest egg."

Harry looks like someone we, ideally, are bringing on when we're 2:1 up with 15 to play, not someone to "unlock the door." Or nick one "against the run of play." He might do alright Tuesday against the plucky L1 nobbers from Plymouth though ....

[petehinton]

1 hour ago, old_eastender said:

In the heat of the moment I thought it was an awful miss, that's unfair, but still think on balance he should score but more 60/40.

Overall I don't understand why we signed him, Luton fans said his best position was playing inside forward off a target man... we don't have a target man in the entire squad!

Think that's 20 appearances now and 1 goal. Poor return for any forward.

Think I saw yesterday that Wells has 1 goal from open play in 23 games…

Need Tommy back and firing asap. 

[Lack of Action Man]

Good save, required a lot of skill and a slice of luck and sadly for us their keeper got it. Cornick was unfortunate not to score.

Edited September 17, 2023 by OddBallJim

[1960maaan]

Change of opinion alert !!

Must admit I said it was a bad miss , and he should have buried it. 
Having watched it a few times now I can see his chest control was better than I gave him credit for. Plus, with the defender getting across well and the keeper spreading himself it was a harder chance than I thought.
I still think Wells & Conway may have done better, and I'm still hoping that Cornick proves me wrong about him, we shall see.

[Red-Robbo]

49 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Bit harsh, mate. Safe to say though, Harry won't be the one Stevie Guernsey sells for £25 millions next summer to top up his "nest egg."

Harry looks like someone we, ideally, are bringing on when we're 2:1 up with 15 to play, not someone to "unlock the door." Or nick one "against the run of play." He might do alright Tuesday against the plucky L1 nobbers from Plymouth though ....

 

That's kind of my view of the man.

It isn't that he's been particularly bad - just that he hasn't (well, only once) been particularly good. He's been consistently average.

If that sounds harsh, it isn't. I'm not writing him off. Vyner was consistently average (average to poor, some might say!) but turned his game around to being the sort of name you want to see starting for us. Other players have also upped their games. Harry has many of the attributes necessary to become more effective. 

[GrahamC]

53 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Think I saw yesterday that Wells has 1 goal from open play in 23 games…

Need Tommy back and firing asap. 

In League games Wells has only scored one goal that wasn’t a penalty since last January.

Having said that, he’s had at least one disallowed & is working as hard as ever.

Yesterday he was being marked by Ajayi who is about 6ft 5 alongside Kipre who isn’t that much shorter, but despite the ridiculous height disparity he gave it a proper go.

Obvious that as you say, with Conway & Weimann unavailable we are lacking a fair percentage of our goal threat, but until they’re back, unless we are going to give Cornick a run (& bet that would be popular on here) he’s still probably our best bet.

[Roger Red Hat]

4 hours ago, BCFC31 said:

For balance though I don't rate cornick one single bit! Looks like he won a chance to play for us.

Yes, people are queuing up to play for us.......

[Davefevs]

10 hours ago, SouthS22 said:

No goals, no assists, no goal involvements, no successful crosses, today the only shot so far this season.    I’m not sure where the happening is there.  
 

it was a good touch today to set up the chance, but the touch doesn’t matter unless the chance is taken.  It wasn’t, and from where I was sitting it was a miss, though the goalkeeper also did well. 
 

I was hoping after a pre-season that Cornick would kick on this year.  Only fleeting glimpses of any progression so far, though I can’t criticise his work rate.   

Good contrast can be made with Yeboah.  Exciting prospect, fast, strong, unpredictable, and excellent work rate.  

What’s your data source?

 

 

(because it’s wrong )

[JAWS]

From what I've seen so far & the clips for Luton he looks like a no.10 & to be effective needs to be given the freedom to roam

[JAWS]

Appreciate NP budget limited & we were very thin on ground in Jan with weimann and Conway injured (bell was still in background beginning Jan) but still the wrong buy for me & his wages could've been better utilised

[Davefevs]

4 minutes ago, JAWS said:

From what I've seen so far & the clips for Luton he looks like a no.10 & to be effective needs to be given the freedom to roam

Bar Boro (h) last season, as a generalisation I think he’s looked far more effective central…which is the position he ended up at Luton, playing off of Adebayo for a couple of seasons (and Morris last season).  He isn’t a thoroughbred footballer, he’s a bit scruffy, and as you say, you need to let him roam.  The best place for him to roam from (imho) is central.

4 minutes ago, JAWS said:

Appreciate NP budget limited & we were very thin on ground in Jan with weimann and Conway injured (bell was still in background beginning Jan) but still the wrong buy for me & his wages could've been better utilised

I don’t think many of us (even me who isn’t down on him like some) think he’s hit the heights we expected / hoped.  FWIW I saw why we went after him, albeit I expected him to play more central.

[JAWS]

10 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Bar Boro (h) last season, as a generalisation I think he’s looked far more effective central…which is the position he ended up at Luton, playing off of Adebayo for a couple of seasons (and Morris last season).  He isn’t a thoroughbred footballer, he’s a bit scruffy, and as you say, you need to let him roam.  The best place for him to roam from (imho) is central.

I don’t think many of us (even me who isn’t down on him like some) think he’s hit the heights we expected / hoped.  FWIW I saw why we went after him, albeit I expected him to play more central.

Yes agree Dave. Central but tucked in behind & freedom to roam so more of a 10. We don't play him in that role 

[JAWS]

Hence why he's come across as being ineffective on the whole. Same as sykes playing wingback at beginning of last season 

[Alessandro]

11 hours ago, Davefevs said:

And a defender sliding in on him too.

Can’t believe it took 4 pages for someone to say this….

If Cornick went to the keepers right, the defender blocks it.

The keeper closed the gap, made himself big and covered the middle and left.

1) It’s a great first touch from Cornick.

2) A good recovery from the defender.

3) Top quality positioning and a top quality reaction save from the keeper.

Yes maybe maybe on another day Messi in his prime curls that in the bottom left hand corner but personally think Cornick couldn’t have done much more.

[Roger Red Hat]

3 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

Can’t believe it took 4 pages for someone to say this….

If Cornick went to the keepers right, the defender blocks it.

The keeper closed the gap, made himself big and covered the middle and left.

1) It’s a great first touch from Cornick.

2) A good recovery from the defender.

3) Top quality positioning and a top quality reaction save from the keeper.

Yes maybe maybe on another day Messi in his prime curls that in the bottom left hand corner but personally think Cornick couldn’t have done much more.

Please stop with the reasoning and positivity.............

[JoeAman08]

Think Conway or Wells more than likely finish that.

Cornick not the one for me. Reminds me of Marley Watkins a bit except Cornick come here at better value and probably better reputation? Watkins flopped at Norwich and couldn’t believe their luck they got 1m for him. Cornick went for much less from a side that still probably wanted to keep him at least for rotation purposes. 
 

I’d probably lean more minutes towards Yeboah at this stage. Not because he is young but because I think he causes problems no one else in our side can cause. I get protecting a young player and all that. Just saying his pace is electric and for his age he is quite aggressive and strong. A blend I don’t think anyone in this team provides. 
 

I think the fact we are talking about this shows where we are as a team. Good culture and all that but lacking quality. Cornick sums that up. Great worker but lacking technically. Until we start addressing quality over culture we’ll probably be lower mid table. Even Millwall and Preston who I think are traditionally culture sides have tried sprinkling in some magic in their team. We needed another player as soon as Scott left but think we all know that

[Davefevs]

Agree with sentence 1 @JoeAman08, they are better finishers, so yes, more likely to score.

I’d have never paid £900k (£1m whatever!) for Watkins, but as disliked as he was by a lot of our fan base, a fit Watkins played a role.  I remember chatting to Jack Hunt once and he said he liked Watkins ahead of him (over Eliasson) because he never got left exposed, he was physical with his opposing left-back.  And he did get the odd goal too.  Fitness / staying fit was his biggest issue.  There are similarities though, both a bit crude on the eye, both lower level football backgrounds too.

Yeboah is gonna get his chance at some point.  I don’t think Nige wants to expose him down the middle though, and Sykes is playing well at RF, so biding his time.  He looks a mini version of Semenyo though, which is no bad thing.  I think Nige will trust him with more minutes though going forward.

Quality over culture is a tough transition to make.  I think TGH will bring that too, once he gets in, I think he’ll be hard to dislodge, I see a fair bit of ability in him.  Good age too.  Would not surprise me if we try to make it a perm in January.  Much as I’m a big fan of Williams’s form this season, if TGH comes in for him, then that makes Williams as a sub, a stronger option too.  I think we are moving towards what you suggest, one more player of the TGH / Knight profile could’ve made a big difference with the foundation we have.

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37 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

Think Conway or Wells more than likely finish that.

Cornick not the one for me. Reminds me of Marley Watkins a bit except Cornick come here at better value and probably better reputation? Watkins flopped at Norwich and couldn’t believe their luck they got 1m for him. Cornick went for much less from a side that still probably wanted to keep him at least for rotation purposes. 
 

I’d probably lean more minutes towards Yeboah at this stage. Not because he is young but because I think he causes problems no one else in our side can cause. I get protecting a young player and all that. Just saying his pace is electric and for his age he is quite aggressive and strong. A blend I don’t think anyone in this team provides. 
 

I think the fact we are talking about this shows where we are as a team. Good culture and all that but lacking quality. Cornick sums that up. Great worker but lacking technically. Until we start addressing quality over culture we’ll probably be lower mid table. Even Millwall and Preston who I think are traditionally culture sides have tried sprinkling in some magic in their team. We needed another player as soon as Scott left but think we all know that

Everyone bar the three most important people at the club..........we've got a lot going in the right direction but lack of quality will always hurt you and stop you going where you want to go in the end. I'm obviously using an unfair comparison to prove a point but if Leicester City put in the first 45 minutes we did yesterday against anyone in our league they are literally 4-0 up at half time and it's game over.