Plymouth Argyle at home match thread

[Chivs]

Whilst this was a great result and, on the whole, a good display, we did manage to give Plymouth plenty of chances. 

The usual suspects, Naismith, Vyner and O'Leary gave the ball directly to an opposing player in a dangerous position. Some great tackling, and some poor Plymouth finishing disguised this. Do the same against Leicester and Vardy is going home with the ball under his shirt. 

[Kid in the Riot]

4 minutes ago, Nuno Gomes said:

Comment on Pasoti made me laugh.  They compared last night and the 2 sides to the Indiana Jones bit where the guy stands in front of him wielding a sword and doing all sorts with it.  Indiana stands there looking bored then gets out his gun and shoots him. 

Brilliant scene, which only happened because Harrison Ford had diarrhea and so wasn't well enough to film the planned sword-fight.

[ralphindevon]

Great performance and great atmosphere in parts but it was a bit embarrassing when thousands left before half time.

There was obviously going to be quite a bit of extra time because of the early technical incident so we had about 8-10 minutes with a sparse crowd.

In that time Plymouth were imploding, their keeper let a ball run out of play when it was a corner and then a terrible pass I think it was.

Anyway it had the Plymouth fans singing “this is an embarrassment” but our crowd was silent when they should really have been hammering Plymouth and making their players even more uncomfortable.

[tin]

5 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Have to say their number 6 is probably the worst centre back I’ve seen in the championship against us. They were awful at the back 

Agree. If they defend like they did last night, they will go straight back down. I thought they were abysmal. Whether that was down to us being close to our ruthless best, the seven changes they made, or somewhere in between, teams that defend as badly as them don’t last long at this level and they were all over the place at the back. Their keeper was dire as well. 

Edited September 20, 2023 by tin

[Red-Robbo]

Just now, ralphindevon said:

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In that time Plymouth were imploding, their keeper let a ball run out of play when it was a corner

 

That was so funny. I don't think I've ever seen a keeper carefully and diligently shepherd a ball out of play only to belatedly realise his side had had the last touch. 

 

[alexukhc]

7 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Have to say their number 6 is probably the worst centre back I’ve seen in the championship against us. They were awful at the back 

Which one was the ex sag, I thought they was all pretty awful, plus our ex player Joe Edwards, how is he playing championship football?

[Red Army 75]

Just now, alexukhc said:

Which one was the ex sag, I thought they was all pretty awful, plus our ex player Joe Edwards, how is he playing championship football?

Not sure mate all looked like ex sags. They were all shit . 

[Ska Junkie]

14 minutes ago, Nuno Gomes said:

Comment on Pasoti made me laugh.  They compared last night and the 2 sides to the Indiana Jones bit where the guy stands in front of him wielding a sword and doing all sorts with it.  Indiana stands there looking bored then gets out his gun and shoots him. 

Read a lot of comments that we 'were nothing special' and 'no great shakes'. We were 2 or 3 clear for most of the game dumbarses, we did what we needed to do, very well and battered you, with ease.

As for your 'inexperienced team', look up the age of some of ours!

U 's.

[Davefevs]

5 minutes ago, alexukhc said:

Which one was the ex sag, I thought they was all pretty awful, plus our ex player Joe Edwards, how is he playing championship football?

Gibson 17

Scarr 6

[Spudgun]

What is going on in the south stand with all the empty seats?

All seats are taken up in there, mainly season cards.

Lots in the lower lansdown as well, find it embarrassing to be honest.

Doesn't look good, and makes the attendance figure announced laughable.

But more importantly on the pitch City were on it from the start, albeit against a poor Janners side who were all over the place.

As soon as I seen the line up for them I fancied our chances.

 

[alexukhc]

Just now, Davefevs said:

Gibson 17

Scarr 6

Ahhh yea Scarr was worst out the 2, they got Norwich Saturday, after that showing I can see another heavy defeat

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, Spudgun said:

What is going on in the south stand with all the empty seats?

All seats are taken up in there, mainly season cards.

Lots in the lower lansdown as well, find it embarrassing to be honest.

Doesn't look good, and makes the attendance figure announced laughable.

But more importantly on the pitch City were on it from the start, albeit against a poor Janners side who were all over the place.

As soon as I seen the line up for them I fancied our chances.

 

Kids / late nights!

[chinapig]

51 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Welcome back on OTIB everyone, I’ve missed you all day!

Have you got any data on eDT* Dave? If so can we extrapolate how often the server will fall over for the rest of the season?

*Expected Down Time

[Hartleysbeard]

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Kids / late nights!

Possibly but what was the excuse on Saturday? An even more sparse crowd in sections of South Stand and Lansdown especially. 

[Kid in the Riot]

14 minutes ago, tin said:

Agree. If they defend like they did last night, they will go straight back down. I thought they were abysmal. Whether that was down to us being close to our ruthless best, the seven changes they made, or somewhere in between, teams that defend as badly as them don’t last long at this level and they were all over the place at the back. Their keeper was dire as well. 

They've had a decent start to the season and were the better side at league leaders PNE on Saturday, so I'm sure they'll be fine. 

I think it was incredibly naive of Schumacher to make 7 changes. You just can't do that in the Championship, especially given they haven't got the deepest of squads. 

I think they play their best 11 and it's a closer game.

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, Hartleysbeard said:

Possibly but what was the excuse on Saturday? An even more sparse crowd in sections of South Stand and Lansdown especially. 

Oooh, didn’t notice on Saturday.  No idea then.

2 minutes ago, chinapig said:

Have you got any data on eDT* Dave? If so can we extrapolate how often the server will fall over for the rest of the season?

*Expected Down Time

Zero%.  In @TomF we trust.

[MC RISK77]

Lots of good performances last night but my big shout out was to Sam Bell- looked a constant threat last night and with each game is making more and more better decisions. Hopefully we have a real star in the making.

[And Its Smith]

24 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

They were singing it for ages well before he scored.  They just sang it again after he did.

50k+ posts, special privileges.

Fair enough. There was just a 15 min period in the second half at 3-1 that was very quiet. At 4-1 the crowd re-woke up!

[Lrrr]

First chance I’ve had to go to Ashton Gate in quite a while, thought Vyner was excellent along with first chance to see the new players live, thought TGH looked better in centre mid then when I saw him at RB 

[Jerseybean]

Post match Nigel Pearson spoke of fine margins and the fact we could’ve scored more.

My post match thoughts were less positive.

Firstly, I think we were very sloppy and made lots of poor decisions on the night. We certainly didn’t control the game or the ball particularly well.

Perhaps we could’ve scored more, as NP suggested, but certainly Plymouth had three gilt edge opportunities - one following Max’s sloppy clearance, then when they hit the post and at the death when ZV’s superb tackle prevented a certain goal.

Finally, I was really hacked off by two stupid yellow cards. Does anybody know if the club fine players for picking up a yellow card when they delay a free kick or throw the ball away?

In the first half Wells picked up a card for this which should’ve been more than enough warning to the rest of the players, however, in the second half Tanner joined him for the same offence. Really is not very professional. Everyone knows that referees are going to issue cards for such behaviour.

[GrahamC]

12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Gibson 17

Scarr 6

Scarr was truly abysmal, mind you the 29 (Hayden) looked to me like he’d won a competition to play, started at RB & Bell absolutely murdered him, then got switched to LB & Sykes did exactly the same thing.

Wasn’t even in the same post code when he scored our third, terrible.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

7 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Post match Nigel Pearson spoke of fine margins and the fact we could’ve scored more.

My post match thoughts were less positive.

Firstly, I think we were very sloppy and made lots of poor decisions on the night. We certainly didn’t control the game or the ball particularly well.

Perhaps we could’ve scored more, as NP suggested, but certainly Plymouth had three gilt edge opportunities - one following Max’s sloppy clearance, then when they hit the post and at the death when ZV’s superb tackle prevented a certain goal.

Finally, I was really hacked off by two stupid yellow cards. Does anybody know if the club fine players for picking up a yellow card when they delay a free kick or throw the ball away?

In the first half Wells picked up a card for this which should’ve been more than enough warning to the rest of the players, however, in the second half Tanner joined him for the same offence. Really is not very professional. Everyone knows that referees are going to issue cards for such behaviour.

Yes it could have been better, but it can always be better. We could have scored more. Bell and Sykes should both of had two on the night. But we won 4-1. As I said elsewhere moaning is the national sport. 

[Davefevs]

12 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Scarr was truly abysmal, mind you the 29 (Hayden) looked to me like he’d won a competition to play, started at RB & Bell absolutely murdered him, then got switched to LB & Sykes did exactly the same thing.

Wasn’t even in the same post code when he scored our third, terrible.

He can’t defend…he’s a modern day FB / WB in the sense that he’s a bomber.  I’ve rarely seen a player make so many runs at full-tilt, no lack of commitment to running forwards.  Running back a bit different.

[BCFCGav]

On 19/09/2023 at 13:35, Major Isewater said:

Out of curiosity overall just how many Championship games are won by three goal margins ? 
I would imagine it’s very few view the competitive nature of the division where anyone can beat anyone. 

Right on cue eh Major! Was thinking of our conversation last night when the goals were flying in. 

[Magicdaps]

I have a few Plymouth supporting mates, one very good friend in particular.  Some who live in Plymouth, and some who grew up down there and moved to Bristol many years ago, including the very good friend.  To a man they were amazed at the 7 changes, and collectively feared the worst before the game once the teams were announced.  They also commented on the empty seats, especially in the South Stand.  The more locally based Plymouth fans were reassuring the others in the group that the SS would fill just before kick off as many would still be in the concourse using the bars etc. but alas, it didn't transpire, and I didn't really have much of an explanation as to why that was.

I think they'll be fine moving forward.  As others have said the 7 changes were pretty naive, and in the words of some of the above they thought Steven Schumacher had mistaken the game for a Carabao Cup tie not a "local derby" (I know peoples interpretation of a local derby in this context differs to a greater or lesser degree, their words not mine)

[tin]

36 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

They've had a decent start to the season and were the better side at league leaders PNE on Saturday, so I'm sure they'll be fine. 

I think it was incredibly naive of Schumacher to make 7 changes. You just can't do that in the Championship, especially given they haven't got the deepest of squads. 

I think they play their best 11 and it's a closer game.

Yeah, I get that, and they looked decent going forward. While I agree you can’t make seven changes at get away with it, you can’t defend like that. Shame we couldn’t catch up last night either, mate. Next time. 

[Red Billy]

37 minutes ago, Magicdaps said:

I have a few Plymouth supporting mates, one very good friend in particular.  Some who live in Plymouth, and some who grew up down there and moved to Bristol many years ago, including the very good friend.  To a man they were amazed at the 7 changes, and collectively feared the worst before the game once the teams were announced.  They also commented on the empty seats, especially in the South Stand.  The more locally based Plymouth fans were reassuring the others in the group that the SS would fill just before kick off as many would still be in the concourse using the bars etc. but alas, it didn't transpire, and I didn't really have much of an explanation as to why that was.

I think they'll be fine moving forward.  As others have said the 7 changes were pretty naive, and in the words of some of the above they thought Steven Schumacher had mistaken the game for a Carabao Cup tie not a "local derby" (I know peoples interpretation of a local derby in this context differs to a greater or lesser degree, their words not mine)

Lots of transport issues last night. Trains not running and the A369 shut possibly impacted quite a few.

[redkev]

1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

They've had a decent start to the season and were the better side at league leaders PNE on Saturday, so I'm sure they'll be fine. 

I think it was incredibly naive of Schumacher to make 7 changes. You just can't do that in the Championship, especially given they haven't got the deepest of squads. 

I think they play their best 11 and it's a closer game.

Very quick lesson for Schumacher to take on board don’t think he will do that again , in this game if your not at it 1% your in trouble , think he will have some uncomfortable questions fired at him today 

[Numero Uno]

1 hour ago, Jerseybean said:

Post match Nigel Pearson spoke of fine margins and the fact we could’ve scored more.

My post match thoughts were less positive.

Firstly, I think we were very sloppy and made lots of poor decisions on the night. We certainly didn’t control the game or the ball particularly well.

Perhaps we could’ve scored more, as NP suggested, but certainly Plymouth had three gilt edge opportunities - one following Max’s sloppy clearance, then when they hit the post and at the death when ZV’s superb tackle prevented a certain goal.

Finally, I was really hacked off by two stupid yellow cards. Does anybody know if the club fine players for picking up a yellow card when they delay a free kick or throw the ball away?

In the first half Wells picked up a card for this which should’ve been more than enough warning to the rest of the players, however, in the second half Tanner joined him for the same offence. Really is not very professional. Everyone knows that referees are going to issue cards for such behaviour.

Fancy supporting a team that doesn’t score that many goals and being ****** off when they win 4-1 focusing SOLELY on the negatives. **** I……..

[Numero Uno]

1 hour ago, Chivs said:

Whilst this was a great result and, on the whole, a good display, we did manage to give Plymouth plenty of chances. 

The usual suspects, Naismith, Vyner and O'Leary gave the ball directly to an opposing player in a dangerous position. Some great tackling, and some poor Plymouth finishing disguised this. Do the same against Leicester and Vardy is going home with the ball under his shirt. 

I think you are right but imo it’s down to the fact that we either play open or cautious, we aren’t quite good enough yet to get the balance right. Last night we were open and that meant we took chances. My guess is that on Sunday we will revert to a very counter attacking game which doesn’t involve drawing Leicester on and trying to play through them starting from Max.

[ralphindevon]

59 minutes ago, Magicdaps said:

I have a few Plymouth supporting mates, one very good friend in particular.  Some who live in Plymouth, and some who grew up down there and moved to Bristol many years ago, including the very good friend.  To a man they were amazed at the 7 changes, and collectively feared the worst before the game once the teams were announced.  They also commented on the empty seats, especially in the South Stand.  The more locally based Plymouth fans were reassuring the others in the group that the SS would fill just before kick off as many would still be in the concourse using the bars etc. but alas, it didn't transpire, and I didn't really have much of an explanation as to why that was.

I think they'll be fine moving forward.  As others have said the 7 changes were pretty naive, and in the words of some of the above they thought Steven Schumacher had mistaken the game for a Carabao Cup tie not a "local derby" (I know peoples interpretation of a local derby in this context differs to a greater or lesser degree, their words not mine)

Midweek games have always attracted groups that play football at weekends, I’m always hearing how some would love to come as a group of 3, 4, 5 and not pay a fortune.

If only there was room for them in the South stand!

Recently, including last night they could have sat a group of 30 together no problem in there. 

[IAmNick]

1 hour ago, Spudgun said:

What is going on in the south stand with all the empty seats?

All seats are taken up in there, mainly season cards.

Lots in the lower lansdown as well, find it embarrassing to be honest.

Doesn't look good, and makes the attendance figure announced laughable.

But more importantly on the pitch City were on it from the start, albeit against a poor Janners side who were all over the place.

As soon as I seen the line up for them I fancied our chances.

 

Might be wrong, but I think that's where the really cheap kids tickets with a free shirt are - so lots probably buy them and their kids only have to come to a handful of games for it to be worth it.

I reckon you should be able to offer your seat back for sale to the club on a game by game basis if you want. You could get say 50% of the money if someone buys it, club get the rest. Then at least people could use them!

I also sit in the Lansdown right in front of the posh seats, and it's not unusual for a fair few people to sneak over into them as tickets often aren't checked (which I don't care about but it's annoying to have people shuffling around or in your way while the game is on) so that might be the cause of a few as well.

The South stand in particular looked a bit sad last night I thought which is a shame.

Edited September 20, 2023 by IAmNick

[WECANDO]

1 hour ago, Jerseybean said:

Post match Nigel Pearson spoke of fine margins and the fact we could’ve scored more.

My post match thoughts were less positive.

Firstly, I think we were very sloppy and made lots of poor decisions on the night. We certainly didn’t control the game or the ball particularly well.

Perhaps we could’ve scored more, as NP suggested, but certainly Plymouth had three gilt edge opportunities - one following Max’s sloppy clearance, then when they hit the post and at the death when ZV’s superb tackle prevented a certain goal.

Finally, I was really hacked off by two stupid yellow cards. Does anybody know if the club fine players for picking up a yellow card when they delay a free kick or throw the ball away?

In the first half Wells picked up a card for this which should’ve been more than enough warning to the rest of the players, however, in the second half Tanner joined him for the same offence. Really is not very professional. Everyone knows that referees are going to issue cards for such behaviour.

Anything positive to say?

[1960maaan]

I think the main criticism you can level at us last night is, we let the game become too open at times. We maybe could have slowed things down and filled midfield a bit more, but we were getting so many chances we kind of went with it . 
After weeks of Max getting pelters for his distribution , I thought he was good last night, really helped getting us on the front foot. Pring/Bell & Sykes /Tanner and Wells too TBF had a field day.

[Lew-T]

5 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Might be wrong, but I think that's where the really cheap kids tickets with a free shirt are - so lots probably buy them and their kids only have to come to a handful of games for it to be worth it.

I reckon you should be able to offer your seat back for sale to the club on a game by game basis if you want. You could get say 50% of the money if someone buys it, club get the rest. Then at least people could use them!

I also sit in the Lansdown right in front of the posh seats, and it's not unusual for a fair few people to sneak over into them as tickets often aren't checked (which I don't care about but it's annoying to have people shuffling around or in your way while the game is on) so that might be the cause of a few as well.

The South stand in particular looked a bit sad last night I thought which is a shame.

It needs sorting. It’s supposed to be our home ‘end’ and it’s always often looking sparse. 
 

Something needs to be done.

[redkev]

For all the hype off the Plymouth fans building up to the game and there so called dislike of us were quite tame and seemed pretty friendly before and after ( obviously deflated after ) but personally myself so no flash points which I honestly expected , fair play though good numbers coming all that way up north 

[Street red]

23 hours ago, transfer reader said:

Came across clearly on Robins TV

Seems to on TV ...The Ashton gate tannoy is awful nowhere near the clarity it should be and that it should be Crystal clear. The Lisa tribute I couldn't make out what was said at the back of the south stand. It bugs me having work in the business in the past.

[Jerseybean]

23 minutes ago, WECANDO said:

Anything positive to say?

Generally the answer is yes, as you will see if you look back on my posts.

[archie andrews]

39 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I think you are right but imo it’s down to the fact that we either play open or cautious, we aren’t quite good enough yet to get the balance right. Last night we were open and that meant we took chances. My guess is that on Sunday we will revert to a very counter attacking game which doesn’t involve drawing Leicester on and trying to play through them starting from Max.

hope you spelt saturday wrong......

[Alex_BCFC]

2 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

Post match Nigel Pearson spoke of fine margins and the fact we could’ve scored more.

My post match thoughts were less positive.

Firstly, I think we were very sloppy and made lots of poor decisions on the night. We certainly didn’t control the game or the ball particularly well.

Perhaps we could’ve scored more, as NP suggested, but certainly Plymouth had three gilt edge opportunities - one following Max’s sloppy clearance, then when they hit the post and at the death when ZV’s superb tackle prevented a certain goal.

Finally, I was really hacked off by two stupid yellow cards. Does anybody know if the club fine players for picking up a yellow card when they delay a free kick or throw the ball away?

In the first half Wells picked up a card for this which should’ve been more than enough warning to the rest of the players, however, in the second half Tanner joined him for the same offence. Really is not very professional. Everyone knows that referees are going to issue cards for such behaviour.

They had 2 chances at end when game was over. I think we can live with that. We controlled 95% of that game and they had nothing 2nd half whilst it was 3-1. You should be saying good performance and good win 

[RedRoss]

1 hour ago, Jerseybean said:

Post match Nigel Pearson spoke of fine margins and the fact we could’ve scored more.

My post match thoughts were less positive.

Firstly, I think we were very sloppy and made lots of poor decisions on the night. We certainly didn’t control the game or the ball particularly well.

Perhaps we could’ve scored more, as NP suggested, but certainly Plymouth had three gilt edge opportunities - one following Max’s sloppy clearance, then when they hit the post and at the death when ZV’s superb tackle prevented a certain goal.

Finally, I was really hacked off by two stupid yellow cards. Does anybody know if the club fine players for picking up a yellow card when they delay a free kick or throw the ball away?

In the first half Wells picked up a card for this which should’ve been more than enough warning to the rest of the players, however, in the second half Tanner joined him for the same offence. Really is not very professional. Everyone knows that referees are going to issue cards for such behaviour.

Yeah the players switched off a little and Plymouth got some chances but it was that type of open game and ultimately they didn't go in. Some we're just invidual error and can be learned from and others we're avoided by brilliant defending. If your going to judge that game like that you could also point to our other chances if we're applying the same logic. Sam should of scored that third early on, he had another effort that was close later on but dragged it. There was that effort from Hayden which spurred a 6 shot sustained pressure from us with every player lining up for a pop.

Feel like you have a point about the sloppiness but overly negative considering we played very forward thinking and controlled the game around their box for large periods.

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, Alex_BCFC said:

They had 2 chances at end when game was over. I think we can live with that. We controlled 95% of that game and they had nothing 2nd half whilst it was 3-1. You should be saying good performance and good win 

They went 43 mins second half without a shot.

I thought Whittaker gave Pring a few uneasy moments when he first came on, but after that, I thought we were so in control.

[Lanterne Rouge]

4 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said:

They had 2 chances at end when game was over. I think we can live with that. We controlled 95% of that game and they had nothing 2nd half whilst it was 3-1. You should be saying good performance and good win 

If you were watching as a neutral you`d say City walked it and never looked in trouble.

[Rob k]

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

They went 43 mins second half without a shot.

I thought Whittaker gave Pring a few uneasy moments when he first came on, but after that, I thought we were so in control.

God knows what game he watched - we completely controlled the game, played some lovely football and punished them for taking the piss thinking they could make 7 changes. We should have been 3 up after 10 mins if Bell puts away a relatively easy chance, plus it looks as if their goal should have been given offside. We won’t have an easier game all season. I thought we played well last night, an enjoyable evening. They couldn’t live with our energy last night. 

Edited September 20, 2023 by Rob k

[Kid in the Riot]

39 minutes ago, redkev said:

For all the hype off the Plymouth fans building up to the game and there so called dislike of us were quite tame and seemed pretty friendly before and after ( obviously deflated after ) but personally myself so no flash points which I honestly expected , fair play though good numbers coming all that way up north 

Yeah there were a few I chatted to in Hotwells before the game and they were decent enough.

There was a bit of fighting behind the Atyeo after though, including a lad that got knocked out from a punch and he was having to be put in the recovery position by people.

Police stood about 20m away doing **** all, as usual. 

[redkev]

I always thought city could score if push come to shove but always had the feeling Plymouth had a goal in them ,pretty dominant but a little open perhaps complacency as they were so so poor at times 

[Malago]

29 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said:

They had 2 chances at end when game was over. I think we can live with that. We controlled 95% of that game and they had nothing 2nd half whilst it was 3-1. You should be saying good performance and good win 

About from Max’s brain fade, from which they should have scored.

Edited September 20, 2023 by Malago

[Shauntaylor85]

13 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Yeah there were a few I chatted to in Hotwells before the game and they were decent enough.

There was a bit of fighting behind the Atyeo after though, including a lad that got knocked out from a punch and he was having to be put in the recovery position by people.

Police stood about 20m away doing **** all, as usual. 

I was surprised they were allowed to walk from the Atyeo right down to the Sports Bar and mix with our fans outside without any steward asking anything. A recipe for trouble it felt like. 

[redkev]

12 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Yeah there were a few I chatted to in Hotwells before the game and they were decent enough.

There was a bit of fighting behind the Atyeo after though, including a lad that got knocked out from a punch and he was having to be put in the recovery position by people.

Police stood about 20m away doing **** all, as usual. 

Police seem to love rather than preventing just pick up the pieces and nick people , didn’t see any hostility at all after and just a bit of jester in before near the rising sun , little mob of janners giving it large to a few city fans about 20 janners and 8 or 9 older city fans who didn’t back down all became bit of laughing and joking and passed off with no incident , most janners did seem pretty much ok to be honest 

[redkev]

6 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

I was surprised they were allowed to walk from the Atyeo right down to the Sports Bar and mix with our fans outside without any steward asking anything. A recipe for trouble it felt like. 

When there that amount of away fans it’s hard to segregate totally unless you hold fans back which doesn’t seem to happen nowadays . Just pot luck really of who meets who ,  seen lots mixing with very little conflict which did surprise me 

[Ciderhead433]

1 hour ago, Red Billy said:

Lots of transport issues last night. Trains not running and the A369 shut possibly impacted quite a few.

I wondered if they moved from their seat to the singing section.

 

[shahanshahan]

4 hours ago, Northern Red said:

 

Thanks for sharing this on here @Northern Red! 

Also, what a game/atmosphere last night! Didn't think the 3-1 result from October 2009 could have been replicated, but City only went & got one more goal!

Edited September 20, 2023 by shahanshahan

[Loderingo]

7th after 7 games.  A pretty decent start all in all, especially without Conway

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

On 19/09/2023 at 21:42, Fordy62 said:

You really should wait until after the game. 

Did you make a self servicing joke.

[Red-Robbo]

2 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

I think the main criticism you can level at us last night is, we let the game become too open at times. We maybe could have slowed things down and filled midfield a bit more, but we were getting so many chances we kind of went with it . 
After weeks of Max getting pelters for his distribution , I thought he was good last night, really helped getting us on the front foot. Pring/Bell & Sykes /Tanner and Wells too TBF had a field day.

 

He chucked the ball directly to one of their forwards in the first half. Fortunately, Whittaker, Hardie and Mumba hadn't come on, so there was no repercussions, but it was the worst of a number of not great moments from MOL.

I don't expect everyone to perform flawlessly - no one did, or we could've won that one 8-0 - but Max and Wells are the only two players for us I'd rate as "OK" from last night. The rest were either "good" or "great". 

[mozo]

54 minutes ago, Loderingo said:

7th after 7 games.  A pretty decent start all in all, especially without Conway

I'm waiting for 10 games before judging our start to this season, but the league table is pleasant viewing right now!

[Red-Robbo]

1 hour ago, Loderingo said:

7th after 7 games.  A pretty decent start all in all, especially without Conway

 

We're same points and same GD as Hull. Are we not joint 6th? If we aren't someone explain why. 

[mozo]

3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

We're same points and same GD as Hull. Are we not joint 6th? If we aren't someone explain why. 

Have they pipped us on goals scored?

Anything other than defeat from the game at Leicester will keep our momentum going. Beat them and we'll all start getting a bit giddy...

[Davefevs]

5 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

We're same points and same GD as Hull. Are we not joint 6th? If we aren't someone explain why. 

Goals scored 

[Red-Robbo]

Just now, mozo said:

Have they pipped us on goals scored?

Anything other than defeat from the game at Leicester will keep our momentum going. Beat them and we'll all start getting a bit giddy...

Must be it, By 1 goal scored we're 7th not 6th.

[mozo]

1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

Must be it, By 1 goal scored we're 7th not 6th.

If that bloody Cornick had finished his chance on Saturday....

 

Joking!

[Mr Popodopolous]

Watched the EFL highlights.

I counted 7 clips of our game, 4 if which were our goals, 1 was the final for Plymouth, one was Plymouth hitting  the post and the other was the great tackle by Vyner.

Anyone watching that not there, without prior knowledge would have thought it was an even game. Sure Plymouth had some chances but...

[W-S-M Seagull]

I said earlier on in this thread that for me it was a must win game so I'm absolutely delighted with not only the win but also the performance. 

I felt their goal was a bit of a soft goal to concede but apart from that absolutely delighted with the win. Most enjoyable night down in bs3 for quite a while. 

 

[1960maaan]

7 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

He chucked the ball directly to one of their forwards in the first half. Fortunately, Whittaker, Hardie and Mumba hadn't come on, so there was no repercussions, but it was the worst of a number of not great moments from MOL.

I don't expect everyone to perform flawlessly - no one did, or we could've won that one 8-0 - but Max and Wells are the only two players for us I'd rate as "OK" from last night. The rest were either "good" or "great". 

All perspective I guess, but I thought his kicking was a lot less floated and to a player rather than towards . Yeah not perfect but decent, handling ok and trying to get us going quickly there is always a chance a pass will go astray. 
As for Wells I thought he was good, without the real goal threat. Chased and pressed well, his movement was good . Always gave an option never let defenders settle. Needs a goal or two though.

5 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Watched the EFL highlights.

I counted 7 clips of our game, 4 if which were our goals, 1 was the final for Plymouth, one was Plymouth hitting  the post and the other was the great tackle by Vyner.

Anyone watching that not there, without prior knowledge would have thought it was an even game. Sure Plymouth had some chances but...

Always feels like we are a grudging after thought. Very poor replacement program for the Quest version with Colin Murray.

[elhombrecito]

1 hour ago, 1960maaan said:

Very poor replacement program for the Quest version with Colin Murray.

Personally I prefer it. Always used to fast forward the bits in between games anyway, I don't need to know what some random ex footballer who knows nothing about us thinks.

[Davefevs]

2 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

All perspective I guess, but I thought his kicking was a lot less floated and to a player rather than towards . Yeah not perfect but decent, handling ok and trying to get us going quickly there is always a chance a pass will go astray. 
As for Wells I thought he was good, without the real goal threat. Chased and pressed well, his movement was good . Always gave an option never let defenders settle. Needs a goal or two though.

Always feels like we are a grudging after thought. Very poor replacement program for the Quest version with Colin Murray.

@Red-Robbo I don’t recall him throwing it straight to one of their players…can you remind me of the situation.  Maybe I blanked it from my mind.

Mike - in terms of the ball he played that ended up creating their 1v1, at the time I thought that under pressure he’d tried to make a very risky pass, but watching redzone he mis-hit it.  It doesn’t negate any criticism, but at least it wasn’t stupid more poor execution,

[1960maaan]

1 hour ago, elhombrecito said:

Personally I prefer it. Always used to fast forward the bits in between games anyway, I don't need to know what some random ex footballer who knows nothing about us thinks.

For me, although he supports a Prem side , Murray seemed genuinely interested and fairly knowledgeable about the EFL. The new presenter , and the Co presenters come to that, almost seem to be there as they can't get a gig at the top table . I FF through a lot between games as they seem to call looking at the League Table research . 
I really don't think the highlights are as good as Quest, I used to watch a lot more of the program than I do now.

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, elhombrecito said:

Personally I prefer it. Always used to fast forward the bits in between games anyway, I don't need to know what some random ex footballer who knows nothing about us thinks.

I think that does a bit of a disservice to the ex-pros who used to work on Quest.

FWIW Ben Bloom (the Ipswich fan YouTuber) has a weekly “check-in” on Thursday’s at 7pm:

He’s got Sam Parkin as his weekly guest, and fair play to Sam, he knows his EFL / Champ.  I think he works pretty much full time in the media doing games / reviews etc, so is well clued up.  I always liked Dean Ashton too.

And as a shameless plug, I get to set each of them a bit of trivia each week for a bit of fun based on the previous round of games.  Sometimes a bit random footie stuff like “how many no9 scored last week” or even more random “name the players who scored at the weekend who share the name with Oscar Best Actor Nominees”. (Conor / Charlie Chaplin, Nahki / Orson Well(e)s)

Tune in tonight at 7pm.

I miss the bit of talking in between, but use the above YouTube hour as my equivalent.

[2015]

2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think that does a bit of a disservice to the ex-pros who used to work on Quest.

FWIW Ben Bloom (the Ipswich fan YouTuber) has a weekly “check-in” on Thursday’s at 7pm:

He’s got Sam Parkin as his weekly guest, and fair play to Sam, he knows his EFL / Champ.  I think he works pretty much full time in the media doing games / reviews etc, so is well clued up.  I always liked Dean Ashton too.

And as a shameless plug, I get to set each of them a bit of trivia each week for a bit of fun based on the previous round of games.  Sometimes a bit random footie stuff like “how many no9 scored last week” or even more random “name the players who scored at the weekend who share the name with Oscar Best Actor Nominees”. (Conor / Charlie Chaplin, Nahki / Orson Well(e)s)

Tune in tonight at 7pm.

I miss the bit of talking in between, but use the above YouTube hour as my equivalent.

Parkin was a handful as a player. Good at Swindon and a bit of a cult hero there, he knows his stuff when it comes to EFL.

[1960maaan]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

@Red-Robbo I don’t recall him throwing it straight to one of their players…can you remind me of the situation.  Maybe I blanked it from my mind.

Mike - in terms of the ball he played that ended up creating their 1v1, at the time I thought that under pressure he’d tried to make a very risky pass, but watching redzone he mis-hit it.  It doesn’t negate any criticism, but at least it wasn’t stupid more poor execution,

The one that Wayne ends up putting wide, it's towards 2 City players, possibly slightly misplaced. From his perspective I think he may have seen 2 City players and a little space, I would have liked him to put his foot through that one. 
I do think , with the amount of space behind their FB's his kicking wide was better than it has been. Lower & firmer giving defenders less time to chase around , and with Bell & Pring either challenging or looking for the flick, we attacked that space well. 
IMO his best game for distribution for a while, but I think we gave him more options and Plymouth made it a little easier.