Popular Post joe jordans teeth Posted October 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2023 A 2-1 defeat against a team just down from prem and more than likely heading back up and going down fighting is all we can ask,how this team has moved on from 3-4 years ago with little money spent in those years 15 2 2 1 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Why are we proud? We never win these type of games or get a draw when other clubs do. Look at Ipswich……sorry but treading water again with the worst keeper we’ve had in 20 years plus. 8 3 3 2 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: A 2-1 defeat against a team just down from prem and more than likely heading back up and going down fighting is all we can ask,how this team has moved on from 3-4 years ago with little money spent in those years We've got quite a likeable team at the moment, Pearson has done well. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3City Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Last 2 games 3 points from a possible 6. We could have got 2 draws and been worse off. Not the end of the world... 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GrahamC Posted October 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: A 2-1 defeat against a team just down from prem and more than likely heading back up and going down fighting is all we can ask,how this team has moved on from 3-4 years ago with little money spent in those years Agree, it is hardly the shock result of the season. Far bigger disappointment was not getting something from the Stoke game. With what we have available we have made a decent start, be good to get a few back & have more options but not the disaster certain posters appear to want to claim. 33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 We should be able to give any team in our division a game. That's why we are in the same division. There's progress from where we were 2/3 years ago when we probably would have rolled over and lost 3-0 but ultimately - 0 points. Proud is a bit much. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Port Said Red Posted October 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Why are we proud? We never win these type of games or get a draw when other clubs do. Look at Ipswich……sorry but treading water again with the worst keeper we’ve had in 20 years plus. I don't care how long you have been watching, how far you ******* travel, you are the biggest *** on this forum and I don't care if that gets me banned. 23 3 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Why are we proud? We never win these type of games or get a draw when other clubs do. Look at Ipswich……sorry but treading water again with the worst keeper we’ve had in 20 years plus. I'm jealous that you missed the point when Elliott Parish was our first choice keeper 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) We surely don’t need to feel ashamed or too downbeat about this result, but proud? Really? It was a game we probably all expected to battle hard in and ultimately lose and that’s exactly what happened. I’m pretty much just going through the motions right now. Edited October 7, 2023 by Wanderingred 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Why are we proud? We never win these type of games or get a draw when other clubs do. Look at Ipswich……sorry but treading water again with the worst keeper we’ve had in 20 years plus. Honestly why do you bother watching? You're relentlessly negative, maybe if you did something else with your Saturday afternoons you might enjoy it more. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: I'm jealous that you missed the point when Elliott Parish was our first choice keeper And that god awful German “number 1” who couldn’t kick a ball higher than 4 foot in the air 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 It was a spirited effort, but not heroic in any sense. If we beat Cov this game will be soon forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: A 2-1 defeat against a team just down from prem and more than likely heading back up and going down fighting is all we can ask,how this team has moved on from 3-4 years ago with little money spent in those years And here lies the problem with some fans mentality Everyone loves a trier . Proper losers mentality Meanwhile look at Ipswich of you want to talk about being proud…. 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 One day the whole club and fan base needs to not be satisfied in defeat. That day isn’t today though. Amazing how we can play like we did on Tuesday and then today 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: We surely don’t need to feel ashamed or too downbeat about this result, but proud? Really? It was a game we probably all expected to battle hard in and ultimately lose and that’s exactly what happened. I’m pretty much just going through the motions right now. In all my years I’ve seen us go to places expecting to get beat and we have without even a whimper,doesn’t happen these days 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: And here lies the problem with some fans mentality Everyone loves a trier . Proper losers mentality Meanwhile look at Ipswich of you want to talk about being proud…. What the Ipswich who have been languishing for years,11 games in and you are waxing lyrical,give it a rest will you 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 It’s way too early to start talking about Ipswich. We aren’t even a quarter of the way through the season yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, petehinton said: And that god awful German “number 1” who couldn’t kick a ball higher than 4 foot in the air Geiffer was better 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: What the Ipswich who have been languishing for years,11 games in and you are waxing lyrical,give it a rest will you Mark Ashton like him or not has done a brilliant job. Their fans love him. Maybe Mark wasn’t the issue, again owner and Johnson spring to mind! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) Am fairly proud, maybe bot today in isolation but 2 seasons ago we shipped 6 at Fulham in a side with Semenyo and Scott, we went to Nottingham Forest and had barely a shot in anger.. We went to Coventry and lost when ahead and twice ahead vs a side with 10 men! We scraped well maybe not scraped but battled to a win vs an average Stoke side who hit the woodwork 3 times..performance was majorly mismatched vs result. (We also had some good games granted). We now have a very thin squad, injuries are biting but we look a cohesive and compact side with done pleasing football at times. What with the Wells injury our outfield players are as follows: Dickie, Pring, Roberts James, Naismith, Knight, Williams, Gardner-Hickman, King Cornick, Sykes Bell, Mehmeti Conway, Weimann Yeah I know versatility etc but it is very thin. Edited October 7, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: What the Ipswich who have been languishing for years,11 games in and you are waxing lyrical,give it a rest will you Wonder what Derby fans are thinking? Bigger club than us, in League One & couldn’t even beat Cheltenham today. Sheffield Wednesday too, also bigger, got as many points all season as we got at Rotherham in midweek. This Ipswich stuff is pretty selective, absolutely no mention of those sides who are bigger than us & doing far worse. On a similar vein I expect we won’t hear so much about Plymouth overtaking us after their 7th defeat in 10.. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Proud? Really?! We’ve just lost to a team in the same league?! The lack of creativity in the midfield is painful. Never fault the effort but to say I feel proud after that? No more than usual. Anytime we play a team with quality it seems people just write it off before we even kick a ball. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: What the Ipswich who have been languishing for years,11 games in and you are waxing lyrical,give it a rest will you Yet here you are ….’proud’ and waxing lyrical of a 2-1 defeat whilst we sit in 14th Edited October 7, 2023 by Andy082005 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Mark Ashton like him or not has done a brilliant job. Their fans love him. Maybe Mark wasn’t the issue, again owner and Johnson spring to mind! It’s their manager that deserves the credit. He’s going to the top and I said that before this season started 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Mark Ashton like him or not has done a brilliant job. Their fans love him. Maybe Mark wasn’t the issue, again owner and Johnson spring to mind! The one common denominator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Yet here you are ….’proud’ and waxing lyrical of a 2-1 defeat whilst we sit in 14th Tbh I’m surprised you haven’t started a Pearson out thread after todays game 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, DaveF said: Honestly why do you bother watching? You're relentlessly negative, maybe if you did something else with your Saturday afternoons you might enjoy it more. So might we. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, petehinton said: And that god awful German “number 1” who couldn’t kick a ball higher than 4 foot in the air Pete, you’re about the same level as me. Please sum up in 2 sentences how we played. Thank you in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Tbh I’m surprised you haven’t started a Pearson out thread after todays game Just ignore the idiot, much happier when we lose, never appears on here when we win. He should just piss off if you ask me... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: It’s their manager that deserves the credit. He’s going to the top and I said that before this season started Heard it all before. Many bright young managers have been flavour of the month and yet are now in obscurity. Coyle at Bolton had a sharp rise. Gone. Di Matteo had a nice path, even won a CL gone. Let's see bow it goes when injuries bite there, let's see how an inevitable loss to Leicester impacts upon their wider form. Tough mid season mid winter away games to (not checked fixtures) sides like WBA, Birmingham, Stoke, Cardiff..Northern or Midlands clubs. The rain, the heavier pitches. Edited October 7, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: So might we. Indeed. But we aren't getting overly upset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Pete, you’re about the same level as me. Please sum up in 2 sentences how we played. Thank you in advance. Brilliant game overall. Battled well, but their quality shone through in the end. Two poor goals conceded but they could’ve scored outside of those chances anyway. Would’ve been very fortunate to have got a point. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, petehinton said: Brilliant game overall. Battled well, but their quality shone through in the end. Two poor goals conceded but they could’ve scored outside of those chances anyway. Would’ve been very fortunate to have got a point. Just on train home with Leeds fan I know - said we were best team they’ve played this Swanson. Impressed with O’Leary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, DaveF said: Honestly why do you bother watching? You're relentlessly negative, maybe if you did something else with your Saturday afternoons you might enjoy it more. He was probably at the Kazam ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Galley is our king said: Just ignore the idiot, much happier when we lose, never appears on here when we win. He should just piss off if you ask me... Sometimes you have to feed the fire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Heard it all before. Many bright young managers have been flavour of the month and yet are now in obscurity. Coyle at Bolton had a sharp rise. Gone. Di Matteo had a nice path, even won a CL gone. Let's see bow it goes when injuries bite there, let's see how an inevitable loss to Leicester impacts upon their wider form. Tough mid season mid winter away games to (not checked fixtures) sides like WBA, Birmingham, Stoke, Cardiff..Northern or Midlands clubs. The rain, the heavier pitches. He certainly has to continue doing it as won’t get a top job over just what he’s done before but no doubt in my mind he will be a top manager one day. Extremely early in his career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: He certainly has to continue doing it as won’t get a top job over just what he’s done before but no doubt in my mind he will be a top manager one day. Extremely early in his career He has made a top notch start, but has yet IMO to have faced adversity. A bit like Carrick last year, into this- he is starting to turn it around..game changing decision went in their favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 I thought we looked good at times but need to work on our decision making at both ends. We were competitive against a team with some very decent attacking talent but didn’t quite do enough to threaten a second and made some choices defensively which made our lives harder. But we stayed in the game whilst showing why we may not quite be ready to challenge for the top six. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 55 minutes ago, DaveF said: We've got quite a likeable team at the moment, Pearson has done well. Why an earth would we want a " likable " team this isn't a personality contest.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, BCFC31 said: Why an earth would we want a " likable " team this isn't a personality contest.... This might surprise you but I don't know any of the players personally. Obviously I meant the way they play, the effort they put in etc... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Why are we proud? We never win these type of games or get a draw when other clubs do. Look at Ipswich……sorry but treading water again with the worst keeper we’ve had in 20 years plus. How's your guide dog bearing up? 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, DaveF said: This might surprise you but I don't know any of the players personally. Obviously I meant the way they play, the effort they put in etc... We are what we are workmanlike but lack the quality, physicality and craft of alot of the other teams in this division mainly due to parachute payments, lack of funding and not being as big a pull as alot of other clubs In the leauge. We can produce and sell which is all well and good but that investment needs to be put in for a more ready made remedies sprinkled with some home grown talent personally I feel either we need a football man on the board or lansdown needs to sell the club to someone who can get us going on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said: A 2-1 defeat against a team just down from prem and more than likely heading back up and going down fighting is all we can ask,how this team has moved on from 3-4 years ago with little money spent in those years How easily pleased are you! If you listened to Naismith interview on Rad Bris you may change your attitude, as does our club He wasn't happy and neither should we be 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Mark Ashton like him or not has done a brilliant job. Their fans love him. Maybe Mark wasn’t the issue, again owner and Johnson spring to mind! All three were cumulatively responsible. Ultimately - leads back to the owner. As for comparing us with Ipswich, it's a similar situation to Luton. Let's wait and see Ipswich's accounts for this season. They lost £12m in 21/22 in League 1 with overall wage costs of £16.4m. God forbid what that'll be this season (and last) with barely any real material outgoings (11 in, 6 out; with over £4m net spent in fees) McKenna is carrying that team - big time. They struck gold. What'll be interesting is what happens when he gets poached, and future FFP if they miss out on promotion. I'd estimate 22/23 wages of £18m (up from £16.4m) and this season wages, with the (quite) expensive loans of Hutchinson, Scarlett, Williams, adding Taunzebe on a free? - with promotions clauses they're probably looking at around £24m per annum - wouldn't shock me. It's same as when MA was with us - spiraling costs are fine as long as there is progress on the pitch, and people turn a blind eye until things go wrong. The key difference is that Ipswich have McKenna who has an all out attack style and he sticks to it. Whereas we had a former player who was friends with the owner and thought he was Jose's better reincarnation. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, frenchred said: How easily pleased are you! If you listened to Naismith interview on Rad Bris you may change your attitude, as does our club He wasn't happy and neither should we be No one’s said they are ‘happy’ have they? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Fuber said: All three were cumulatively responsible. Ultimately - leads back to the owner. As for comparing us with Ipswich, it's a similar situation to Luton. Let's wait and see Ipswich's accounts for this season. They lost £12m in 21/22 in League 1 with overall wage costs of £16.4m. God forbid what that'll be this season (and last) with barely any real material outgoings (11 in, 6 out; with over £4m net spent in fees) McKenna is carrying that team - big time. They struck gold. What'll be interesting is what happens when he gets poached, and future FFP if they miss out on promotion. I'd estimate 22/23 wages of £18m (up from £16.4m) and this season wages, with the (quite) expensive loans of Hutchinson, Scarlett, Williams, adding Taunzebe on a free? - with promotions clauses they're probably looking at around £24m per annum - wouldn't shock me. It's same as when MA was with us - spiraling costs are fine as long as there is progress on the pitch, and people turn a blind eye until things go wrong. The key difference is that Ipswich have McKenna who has an all out attack style and he sticks to it. Whereas we had a former player who was friends with the owner and thought he was Jose's better reincarnation. On the flipside though, if they go up..just McKenna or? Gamble paid off in spades then. Yet to see them being truly tested with a string of tough away games in the North and Midlands in mid winter, multiple injuries etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said: In all my years I’ve seen us go to places expecting to get beat and we have without even a whimper,doesn’t happen these days No, but we still get beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: On the flipside though, if they go up..just McKenna or? Gamble paid off in spades then. Yet to see them being truly tested with a string of tough away games in the North and Midlands in mid winter, multiple injuries etc. Luck is part of the game. Could go against them or... Happened to others (Hudds etc). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Wanderingred said: I’m pretty much just going through the motions right now. Still have the job at the sewage works then ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Still have the job at the sewage works then ? That’s a far more accurate comment than you probably intended it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherrich Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Galley is our king said: Just ignore the idiot, much happier when we lose, never appears on here when we win. He should just piss off if you ask me... He is a complete *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 If its not too much to ask I would like to go to one of these "big" teams one season and look like we might actually win the game 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Red Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: A 2-1 defeat against a team just down from prem and more than likely heading back up and going down fighting is all we can ask,how this team has moved on from 3-4 years ago with little money spent in those years Last year we would have got beat 4- 0 at Leicester and 4-1 at Leeds. We have improved year on year under Nige. 2 decent windows an say 4/5 decent players in on top of this squad and we will be top 6. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, daored said: Just on train home with Leeds fan I know - said we were best team they’ve played this Swanson. Impressed with O’Leary A Swanson, eh. Typo or auto-correct? Either way, it's a beauty! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: A 2-1 defeat against a team just down from prem and more than likely heading back up and going down fighting is all we can ask,how this team has moved on from 3-4 years ago with little money spent in those years 3 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Why are we proud? We never win these type of games or get a draw when other clubs do. Look at Ipswich……sorry but treading water again with the worst keeper we’ve had in 20 years plus. The initial two posts on this thread sum up our current situation for me. Some are happy to maintain the status quo. Others demand that we exceed it. Having had a bit of time to reflect on the game today, I maintain that we were beaten by a far better team and we were simply not at their level (or that of Leicester). However, we certainly should be aspiring to be at that level - and that will require consistently better quality of first team players. Those that we have currently simply are not at the level needed for a sustained top 6 push, and that's very disappointing in all honesty. I rate Pearson and I also rate Tinnion in his back room role. But when Pearson comes out in the media and says that we would only bring in players who are better than those already here, and then you see the performance levels of some of those who have been brought in under NP... it doesn't add up. If we are serious about going up, the 22(?) man squad we currently have isn't good enough and there is still plenty of (dare I say) dead wood to clear out. Edited October 7, 2023 by OddBallJim Paragraph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 57 minutes ago, Better Red said: Last year we would have got beat 4- 0 at Leicester and 4-1 at Leeds. We have improved year on year under Nige. 2 decent windows an say 4/5 decent players in on top of this squad and we will be top 6. We’ve been saying “2 decent transfer windows” since 2016 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 hours ago, BCFC31 said: We are what we are workmanlike but lack the quality, physicality and craft of alot of the other teams in this division mainly due to parachute payments, lack of funding and not being as big a pull as alot of other clubs In the leauge. We can produce and sell which is all well and good but that investment needs to be put in for a more ready made remedies sprinkled with some home grown talent personally I feel either we need a football man on the board or lansdown needs to sell the club to someone who can get us going on the pitch. That is exactly what we are. We'd work really hard to press and harry, close the ball done, win it back and then put a 5 yard pass just out of reach of an attacker and have to do it all again. We seem to have sacrificed attacking prowess for defensive stability. Every attack we have we seem to be heavily outnumbered and it's such hard work to get into a position for a good shot so we rarely get shots on target (only 2 today I think) whereas if you look at Leeds today, they often had 5/6 players pushing forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 After a quarter of the season I think we are pretty much where we will end up, mid-table.....again. We are the perfect example of a championship team. Can raise our game and play really well one game then play crap the next. Inconsistency is typical of this division and is the only thing you can honestly say we excel at. No doubt there will be good days to keep us going but SL has basically ensured where we will end up by refusing to sanction any more signings. It is hard to get excited about a season where you know we aren't gonna trouble the top six. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, grifty said: That is exactly what we are. We'd work really hard to press and harry, close the ball done, win it back and then put a 5 yard pass just out of reach of an attacker and have to do it all again. We seem to have sacrificed attacking prowess for defensive stability. Every attack we have we seem to be heavily outnumbered and it's such hard work to get into a position for a good shot so we rarely get shots on target (only 2 today I think) whereas if you look at Leeds today, they often had 5/6 players pushing forward. Your first point I've bolded - absolutely spot on. R.e. defensive stability - you say that, and yet we are prone to moments of utter madness/brainlessness in defence. Naismith and Tanner both guilty of this in recent matches. I mentioned last weekend that I had never thought I would say it (based on how he was playing when he first broke into the team), but we really do miss Vyner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wokingham Red Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: After a quarter of the season I think we are pretty much where we will end up, mid-table.....again. We are the perfect example of a championship team. Can raise our game and play really well one game then play crap the next. Inconsistency is typical of this division and is the only thing you can honestly say we excel at. No doubt there will be good days to keep us going but SL has basically ensured where we will end up by refusing to sanction any more signings. It is hard to get excited about a season where you know we aren't gonna trouble the top six. This nicely summarises my thoughts. We are a well enough run club to ensure a mid table finish on a consistent basis. But I really struggle to see how we’ll ever make that next step. Requires either a change of approach, change of ownership or a great big dollop of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 hours ago, frenchred said: How easily pleased are you! If you listened to Naismith interview on Rad Bris you may change your attitude, as does our club He wasn't happy and neither should we be I’m not happy with a defeat and never posted that,not sure what you expected him to say tbh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 One for the stattos, when did we last beat a newly relegated team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, fgrsimon said: One for the stattos, when did we last beat a newly relegated team? palace 93.....possibly boro...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Mark Ashton like him or not has done a brilliant job. Their fans love him. Maybe Mark wasn’t the issue, again owner and Johnson spring to mind! Either Johnson signed off on signings and Ashton did the deals, or Ashton also brought in targets along side ones that Johnson wanted. Lansdown backed the pair of them by paying, really can't see how SL is in any way to blame for any thing in this particular case. Maybe by letting finances get away, but that would be CEO territory too ? So he's guilty of being too supportive and backing them too much? I don't know he set up at Ipswich, maybe they have a DoF ( Gary Probert ) that links with recruitment and Manager. That would leave Ashton to do CEO things and stay away from the football side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, fgrsimon said: One for the stattos, when did we last beat a newly relegated team? In 1901-1902 season Manchester City were relegated from Div 1. In 1902-1903 season we beat them 3-2 at home. So it's been a while. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Better Red said: Last year we would have got beat 4- 0 at Leicester and 4-1 at Leeds. We have improved year on year under Nige. 2 decent windows an say 4/5 decent players in on top of this squad and we will be top 6. We keep saying this, but we also keep selling our best players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The chief Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, fgrsimon said: One for the stattos, when did we last beat a newly relegated team? In February! Edited October 7, 2023 by The chief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Shauntaylor85 said: We keep saying this, but we also keep selling our best players. What do you suggest we do out of interest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 We beat Aston Villa 3-1 in 2016. Was quite ah impressive come back from behind. Genuinely unsure since? West Brom 2019 were they freshly relegated? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: We beat Aston Villa 3-1 in 2016. Was quite ah impressive come back from behind. Genuinely unsure since? West Brom 2019 were they freshly relegated? Norwich last season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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