Pearson Post Match

[bcfc01]

Few posts on here referencing JL and the board.

Worth noting that the board consists of JL and Gavin Marshall, thats it.Tinnion has the title of Technical Director but he's not a board member, although he should be with the duties he is now apparently carrying out.

 

 

[Tony Tootle]

I get the feeling that Pearson will decide to retire at the end of the season. If he gets offered an extension he’ll accept but if he doesn’t he’ll pack it in.

[marmite]

If Nige is sailing a lone ship against SL, JL, and Tins, then I think his days are numbered.  It does seem however that the players seem to be with him judging by the warm embraces at the end of games. I also think most fans are now pro Nige which was not always the case. 

So if SL is thinking of making a change, still hypothetical of course, and ends up with another yes man, what will the reaction be.

Well for me, after almost 70 years support and countless managers and coaches and seeing us in the top division and the bottom division, it will probably be the end. Nige is rebuilding slowly and surely and that is better than instant fix followed by instant failure. If the top men can't see what's happening then we have the wrong men at the top.

If Nige gets sacked then there will be no renewal from me next season and I may not even see this one out. I'm too old to wait for another clear out and rebuild scenario. I honestly don't think we are too far away under Nige. But then, it's not my club or money as I've been told.

[Winterstoke toad]

Haven’t read whole thread so not sure if this has been mentioned much but a millwall mate just text and said there’s a lot of talk on their end that rowett is Bristol city bound . Hopefully some rumour started on Twitter so don’t shoot the messenger.

[bcfc01]

8 minutes ago, David Brent said:

It would be very disappointing if Tinnion has more involvement in footballing matters than he deserves. 

Tinnion can obviously spot a player but we’ve got a head coach. 

 

3 minutes ago, ashton_fan said:

Tins had always said he gets on well with Nige, I think this is just guesswork at play and shouldn't be taken as gospel 

I understand he has a very good working relationship with NP but not always agreeing as you'd expect. 

Tinnion no doubt would like to see a young player given an opportunity and I think it would be perfectly ok for him to query the decision to play King over a promising youngster given his role imo. Not that I'm suggesting it was him. 

[Red-Robbo]

1 minute ago, Tony Tootle said:

I get the feeling that Pearson will decide to retire at the end of the season. If he gets offered an extension he’ll accept but if he doesn’t he’ll pack it in.

 

I suppose a lot depends on this health issue. To be honest, I find it more concerning than rumours of rifts with Tinnion or rows with the Lansdowns. 

If you're in chronic pain, you may well decide to step away from a very demanding job. 

[W-S-M Seagull]

3 hours ago, TomThumb84 said:

Time for change.

There is Stockholm Syndrome with the Lansdowns. We could and should thrive without them and thats nothing to be frightened of.

Break it to make it. Nigel Pearson is the best manager (comparably) since Terry Cooper that this club has had and should be offered the chance to grow what he has seeded. Good on him for speaking out.

I will always love this club but if he leaves under these circumstances then I’ll take a watching, but distant brief for a bit.

In my time of watching City I don't think I've ever seen such a hard working committed City team. Yesterday's result was simply down to that. 

If Nige is kicked out of the club then I'll not be renewing my ST for the first time in 20 odd years. 

[Sheltons Army]

Gary Rowett

 

FML  

[Dredd]

2 hours ago, 2015 said:

All I know is Pearson's contract won't be renewed from what I've heard. The Lansdowns will face a massive backlash from the fans and the best way to hit them is by not renewing ST and stop buying the merch (see what AC Milan ultras did).

One step ahead of you on the merch...

[Lanterne Rouge]

27 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

I suppose a lot depends on this health issue. To be honest, I find it more concerning than rumours of rifts with Tinnion or rows with the Lansdowns. 

If you're in chronic pain, you may well decide to step away from a very demanding job. 

I`m guessing he can`t even drive at the moment either so that`s another bit of hassle he has to deal with. Those long coach trips aren`t much fun with a back problem either speaking as one who`s done it in the past.

[italian dave]

2 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

I`m guessing he can`t even drive at the moment either so that`s another bit of hassle he has to deal with. Those long coach trips aren`t much fun with a back problem either speaking as one who`s done it in the past.

Yeah, and City signing up to the commitment not to fly had nothing to do with climate change: it was purely to spite NP. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, BUTOR said:

I saw someone suggesting it may have been Tinnion questioning King's selection over academy players, would make sense. Who else in the hierarchy does NP actually speak to?

Tins is no fool, the only CB that might have been considered is Idehen (sp), who is simply running down his contract and although signed on Tins recommendation simply isn’t good enough at Championship level,Jamie LBN although having captained the U21s has zero experience at this level and although he might do a job for 20mins the thinking that he would be  a better option than King is laughable.

There are currently no other options for CB in the Academy, I really can’t see Tins falling out with NP over this.

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 minute ago, Countryfile said:

Tins is no fool, the only CB that might have been considered is Idehen (sp), who is simply running down his contract and although signed on Tins recommendation simply isn’t good enough at Championship level,Jamie LBN although having captained the U21s has zero experience at this level and although he might do a job for 20mins the thinking that he would be  a better option than King is laughable.

There are currently no other options for CB in the Academy, I really can’t see Tins falling out with NP over this.

Nige and Tins have a huge amount of respect for each other. There has been no falling out. 

[Kid in the Riot]

The more I think about this, the more convinced I become that it's just a matter of when, not if, the trigger is pulled on Nige. 

I think it's becoming very obvious that his contract is not going to be renewed and it's incredibly rare for a manager to have a long-term contract and simply work until it expires, then leave. So that leaves two options, either poached by another club (v unlikely) or the sack/mutual consent.

It sounds to me like he has either been given an ultimatum on achieving results or get the sack, or possibly has got wind of that ultimatum, and it wasn't meant to be conveyed to him personally. 

He was a game away from being sacked twice last season, and survived by avoiding defeat in several key games. 

I said at the start of the season that he would probably be given even less breathing space this season and it seems like that is the case, and on top of that there has now evidently been a falling out of sorts that Nige has chosen to make public. 

It all points to only one outcome unfortunately, and I think the only way Nige avoids the sack is by going on some ludicrously great run of form, or being in the top 6. 

I suspect we are in a scenario where the Lansdowns are just waiting for the optimal time to fire him whilst ensuring they get the least amount of blowback. Probably a couple of defeats on the spin, or a drop in league position into the bottom half.

It may also depend on who they are looking at as a replacement. Some obvious names to them may be Nathan Jones, John Eustace, or Gary Rowett.

I wouldn't be surprised if our former u-23s coach Luke Williams, who has done a fine job at Notts C, was in the conversation too. Apparently retains a good relationship with Tinnion. 

Maybe I've overthought it, but those remarks from Nige yesterday were fairly unprecedented, and I just feel the end can't be too far away now. 

The only way he can save himself is to achieve an outstanding set of results, which seems a tall ask given the current state of the squad.

[Sir Geoff]

Could it be that Pearson is peed off with Lansdown as no contact has been made to see how he actually is following his operation. Bearing in mind that Lansdown made the effort to attend a Bears match and host a q and a. Would it have been too much trouble to drive 20 minutes to Nailsea and call in on Nige to wish him well.

[lenred]

8 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Nige and Tins have a huge amount of respect for each other. There has been no falling out. 

Agree.  Even if Tinman doesn’t agree with Andy King it’s a footballing decision and the buck starts and stops with the manager on that one.  Don’t see Tinns as throwing any toys out about it given the wealth of youth Nige has brought through.  

[petehinton]

4 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

The more I think about this, the more convinced I become that it's just a matter of when, not if, the trigger is pulled on Nige. 

I think it's becoming very obvious that his contract is not going to be renewed and it's incredibly rare for a manager to have a long-term contract and simply work until it expires, then leave. So that leaves two options, either poached by another club (v unlikely) or the sack/mutual consent.

It sounds to me like he has either been given an ultimatum on achieving results or get the sack, or possibly has got wind of that ultimatum, and it wasn't meant to be conveyed to him personally. 

He was a game away from being sacked twice last season, and survived by avoiding defeat in several key games. 

I said at the start of the season that he would probably be given even less breathing space this season and it seems like that is the case, and on top of that there has now evidently been a falling out of sorts that Nige has chosen to make public. 

It all points to only one outcome unfortunately, and I think the only way Nige avoids the sack is by going on some ludicrously great run of form, or being in the top 6. 

I suspect we are in a scenario where the Lansdowns are just waiting for the optimal time to fire him whilst ensuring they get the least amount of blowback. Probably a couple of defeats on the spin, or a drop in league position into the bottom half.

It may also depend on who they are looking at as a replacement. Some obvious names to them may be Nathan Jones, John Eustace, or Gary Rowett.

I wouldn't be surprised if our former u-23s coach Luke Williams, who has done a fine job at Notts C, was in the conversation too. Apparently retains a good relationship with Tinnion. 

Maybe I've overthought it, but those remarks from Nige yesterday were fairly unprecedented, and I just feel the end can't be too far away now. 

The only way he can save himself is to achieve an outstanding set of results, which seems a tall ask given the current state of the squad.

I genuinely think he could be gone by Friday if we lose to Ipswich, I really do. 
 

Didn’t Williams leave under a pretty big cloud? Or maybe that falling out was between him & Ashton so isn’t a big deal anymore. 

[lenred]

3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

The more I think about this, the more convinced I become that it's just a matter of when, not if, the trigger is pulled on Nige. 

I think it's becoming very obvious that his contract is not going to be renewed and it's incredibly rare for a manager to have a long-term contract and simply work until it expires, then leave. So that leaves two options, either poached by another club (v unlikely) or the sack/mutual consent.

It sounds to me like he has either been given an ultimatum on achieving results or get the sack, or possibly has got wind of that ultimatum, and it wasn't meant to be conveyed to him personally. 

He was a game away from being sacked twice last season, and survived by avoiding defeat in several key games. 

I said at the start of the season that he would probably be given even less breathing space this season and it seems like that is the case, and on top of that there has now evidently been a falling out of sorts that Nige has chosen to make public. 

It all points to only one outcome unfortunately, and I think the only way Nige avoids the sack is by going on some ludicrously great run of form, or being in the top 6. 

I suspect we are in a scenario where the Lansdowns are just waiting for the optimal time to fire him whilst ensuring they get the least amount of blowback. Probably a couple of defeats on the spin, or a drop in league position into the bottom half.

It may also depend on who they are looking at as a replacement. Some obvious names to them may be Nathan Jones, John Eustace, or Gary Rowett.

I wouldn't be surprised if our former u-23s coach Luke Williams, who has done a fine job at Notts C, was in the conversation too. Apparently retains a good relationship with Tinnion. 

Maybe I've overthought it, but those remarks from Nige yesterday were fairly unprecedented, and I just feel the end can't be too far away now. 

The only way he can save himself is to achieve an outstanding set of results, which seems a tall ask given the current state of the squad.

That this is even a possibility atm (and I agree sadly it is) just shows how ****** Lansdown’s understanding of football really is.  Utterly utterly clueless.  

[Northern Red]

3 minutes ago, lenred said:

Agree.  Even if Tinman doesn’t agree with Andy King it’s a footballing decision and the buck starts and stops with the manager on that one.  Don’t see Tinns as throwing any toys out about it given the wealth of youth Nige has brought through.  

Agreed, and I think Nige would respect Tins' opinion enough not to make a big deal of it even if they disagreed. Whereas a non-footballing person offering that same opinion would get much shorter shrift.

[Sheltons Army]

2 minutes ago, lenred said:

That this is even a possibility atm (and I agree sadly it is) just shows how ****** Lansdown’s understanding of football really is.  Utterly utterly clueless.  

I’ve seen some ridiculous decisions, appointments etc  at this football club over the years 

But this is ..just a different level.....unbelievable, .....really quite depressing 
 

[bearded_red]

He’s actually going to make the dumbest decision he’s ever made isn’t he, and that really is saying something.

Should be thanking Pearson daily for the job he’s done turning round the absolute omnishambles he inherited. But no, do the opposite. 

Clown.

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 minute ago, petehinton said:

I genuinely think he could be gone by Friday if we lose to Ipswich, I really do. 
 

Didn’t Williams leave under a pretty big cloud? Or maybe that falling out was between him & Ashton so isn’t a big deal anymore. 

I'm just really struggling to understand how losing to Ipswich is deserving of being sacked. 

I can't get my head around how he must beat a current top two side to retain his job. 

I just don't get it.

 

[W-S-M Seagull]

Just now, bearded_red said:

He’s actually going to make the dumbest decision he’s ever made isn’t he, and that really is saying something.

Should be thanking Pearson daily for the job he’s done turning round the absolute omnishambles he inherited. But no, do the opposite. 

Clown.

He should be giving Nige back massages 3 times a day for the crap Nigel has got him out of.

[Red Exile]

1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said:

I’ve seen some ridiculous decisions, appointments etc  at this football club over the years 

But this is ..just a different level.....unbelievable, .....really quite depressing 
 

...mind you replacing Danny Wilson with Brian Tinnion, and Steve Coppell with Keith Millen were decisions that set the bar quite high!

[Sheltons Army]

1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I'm just really struggling to understand how losing to Ipswich is deserving of being sacked. 

I can't get my head around how he must beat a current top two side to retain his job. 

I just don't get it.

 

Depends whether you have your hand on the trigger , waiting for an excuse 

[marmite]

3 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Agreed, and I think Nige would respect Tins' opinion enough not to make a big deal of it even if they disagreed. Whereas a non-footballing person offering that same opinion would get much shorter shrift.

Who is this non footballing person of whom you speak? Is it he whos crayons have been replaced with a football club that he is now fed up with?

[W-S-M Seagull]

2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

Depends whether you have your hand on the trigger , waiting for an excuse 

But again, I'm baffled as to how the hand is even on the trigger. 

[The Humble Realist]

NP is normally very deliberate in what he says so he wont have said what he said yesterday for no reason  .

Trying to galvanise the fanbase for wed ?

[One Team]

3 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

...mind you replacing Danny Wilson with Brian Tinnion, and Steve Coppell with Keith Millen were decisions that set the bar quite high!

And SC with LJ. Three times he’s done it. 

Wouldn’t surprise if he goes for the quadruple and replaces NP with Cole Skuse (ex player, tick! In my tenure, tick! Unproven at this level, tick!). 

 

[Jerseybean]

5 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

Pleased with his professional, positive and prompt response….

 

Hope you’re well and thanks for your message.

 As always, Nige really appreciates the support of the fanbase, but the most important thing for him and the staff is that the supporters continue to back the players as they did so well yesterday, to help achieve another positive result on Wednesday against Ipswich Town.

 His focus will solely be on that game. I’ll ensure he sees your email though.

 Have a great weekend, looking forward to Wednesday night – COYR!

 Best wishes,

 Dean

Shared the poll with his agent……

Subject: Mutual appreciation

Hi Dean

There is no need for a reply to this (although I really do value your professional, prompt and positive responses) and I promise I won’t bombard you with anything more on this topic.

I know Nige appreciates the support of the fanbase and he frequently makes this clear.

It is clearly reciprocated….. https://www.otib.co.uk/topic/222365-poll-does-pearson-deserve-a-24-month-contract-extension/ (link to poll)

Reply:

Hi Steve

Nige has asked me to pass on his thanks for your support, it’s much appreciated.

 I can’t see the poll results, as I’m not a member of the forum, but thanks for sharing anyway.

 Let’s hope for a great atmosphere on Wednesday night to help the lads to victory.

 Best wishes,

 Dean

 

 

 

[Northern Red]

1 minute ago, Red Exile said:

...mind you replacing Danny Wilson with Brian Tinnion, and Steve Coppell with Keith Millen were decisions that set the bar quite high!

I think this would be on a whole different level tbh. He's made highly dubious decisions in the past (I'd add Holden to your list), but I could at least see the logic behind them even if I fundamentally disageed with them.

Whereas this appears, on the face of it at least, to be nothing more than a fragile ego not being able to handle someone who doesn't blow smoke up his arse.

[One Team]

2 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Shared the poll with his agent……

Subject: Mutual appreciation

Hi Dean

There is no need for a reply to this (although I really do value your professional, prompt and positive responses) and I promise I won’t bombard you with anything more on this topic.

I know Nige appreciates the support of the fanbase and he frequently makes this clear.

It is clearly reciprocated….. https://www.otib.co.uk/topic/222365-poll-does-pearson-deserve-a-24-month-contract-extension/ (link to poll)

Reply:

Hi Steve

Nige has asked me to pass on his thanks for your support, it’s much appreciated.

 I can’t see the poll results, as I’m not a member of the forum, but thanks for sharing anyway.

 Let’s hope for a great atmosphere on Wednesday night to help the lads to victory.

 Best wishes,

 Dean

 

 

 

I’d let him know the poll results as they stand mate.

[marmite]

2 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

I think this would be on a whole different level tbh. He's made highly dubious decisions in the past (I'd add Holden to your list), but I could at least see the logic behind them even if I fundamentally disageed with them.

Whereas this appears, on the face of it at least, to be nothing more than a fragile ego not being able to handle someone who doesn't blow smoke up his arse.

SL will of course say to us " I'm glad you like Nigel, it was me who appointed him".

[Sheltons Army]

24 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

...mind you replacing Danny Wilson with Brian Tinnion, and Steve Coppell with Keith Millen were decisions that set the bar quite high!

On a serious note , I’ve only thought twice  three (I’m including SC) in my years that the Club was actually starting to build something really good at this level and set for the top level

Firstly , Fair play to Alan Dicks he did it , though I can’t remember thinking that was where we are heading , I’m not sure we had the foresight to build behind the promotion

And fair play to Gary Johnson who I never thought would get us so close , but he did , but I didn’t have the healthy background build behind it

 

The three times for me were 

1) Joe Jordan , who was in the process of creating the background , (and having built a promotion side) ,on the football side , of a proper football club , rather than an amateur one.

2) Steve Cotterill , post promotion , - not sure about any deep health , but he built a side with a cohesion and winning mentality , short term looked very exciting , with some investment , and a really healthy core was in place

3)Nigel Pearson and now *  - And looking at more than just the now / this week / next week..- Possibly the healthiest , the underlying signs are / have been , at this level,  in all those years 

 

IMHO

* I’d add the work , and apparent health of the academy , with NPs comfort in promoting young players , in that assessment 

Edited October 22, 2023 by Sheltons Army

[Jerseybean]

20 minutes ago, One Team said:

I’d let him know the poll results as they stand mate.

Yep OT I have done…

Thank you Dean and Nigel

Here is the current poll result, based on responses from circa 500 fans on the OTIB forum: 

Does Nigel Pearson deserve a contract renewal?

• Yes- 24 Months 84% 421 votes
• Yes - 12 Months 14%  71 votes 
• No - 2%                        12 votes 

 

[Ivorguy]

This is all so sad after Nige has pulled the club up by its bootstraps.

To fall back now would be one of the worst mistakes, if not THE worst, the club management have made in well over a century.

if anyone knows the PM persuade him to give SL a knighthood or peerage, and then we will be shot of a man not fit to be the face of our wonderful Bristol City.  He clearly only has his own interests, not the club’s, at heart - whether that be money or honours.

[exAtyeoMax]

45 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I'm just really struggling to understand how losing to Ipswich is deserving of being sacked. 

I can't get my head around how he must beat a current top two side to retain his job. 

I just don't get it.

 

I think it will just reinforce just how distant and out of touch the Lansdown's are… 

Edited October 22, 2023 by exAtyeoMax

[Sir Geoff]

34 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Shared the poll with his agent……

Subject: Mutual appreciation

Hi Dean

There is no need for a reply to this (although I really do value your professional, prompt and positive responses) and I promise I won’t bombard you with anything more on this topic.

I know Nige appreciates the support of the fanbase and he frequently makes this clear.

It is clearly reciprocated….. https://www.otib.co.uk/topic/222365-poll-does-pearson-deserve-a-24-month-contract-extension/ (link to poll)

Reply:

Hi Steve

Nige has asked me to pass on his thanks for your support, it’s much appreciated.

 I can’t see the poll results, as I’m not a member of the forum, but thanks for sharing anyway.

 Let’s hope for a great atmosphere on Wednesday night to help the lads to victory.

 Best wishes,

 Dean

 

 

 

Thanks for doing this JB. Out of likes from about 9am this morning.

[Clutton Caveman]

22 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said:

If they let this man leave then we deserve everything we get 

I think that Wednesday night is the perfect chance to send a message to the owners and create a massive show of support for NP.

Lets have some great and simple chants and keep them going all through the game.

Some decent banners would be good too

[fisherrich]

6 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

This is all so sad after Nige has pulled the club up by its bootstraps.

To fall back now would be one of the worst mistakes, if not THE worst, the club management have made in well over a century.

if anyone knows the PM persuade him to give SL a knighthood or peerage, and then we will be shot of a man not fit to be the face of our wonderful Bristol City.  He clearly only has his own interests, not the club’s, at heart - whether that be money or honours.

This football club/Bristol Sport has been run as a shitshow. Has been for many years. Here comes another Lansdown **** up. Getting fed up with Lansdown. Gonna get toxic down AG very soon I suspect.

Time for us fans to support NP and demonstrate to Lansdown what we think of him.

Edited October 22, 2023 by fisherrich

[Dynamite Red]

The irony of murmurs within the hierarchy of the club regarding Kings inclusion and the restrictive self imposed playing budget set by the same hierarchy, resulting in us operating such a thin squad, I am sure is not lost on Nige.

The hierarchy are fast losing the fan base. Give him a new deal and a proper budget to compete.

[The Exiled Robin]

1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

The more I think about this, the more convinced I become that it's just a matter of when, not if, the trigger is pulled on Nige. 

I think it's becoming very obvious that his contract is not going to be renewed and it's incredibly rare for a manager to have a long-term contract and simply work until it expires, then leave. So that leaves two options, either poached by another club (v unlikely) or the sack/mutual consent.

It sounds to me like he has either been given an ultimatum on achieving results or get the sack, or possibly has got wind of that ultimatum, and it wasn't meant to be conveyed to him personally. 

He was a game away from being sacked twice last season, and survived by avoiding defeat in several key games. 

I said at the start of the season that he would probably be given even less breathing space this season and it seems like that is the case, and on top of that there has now evidently been a falling out of sorts that Nige has chosen to make public. 

It all points to only one outcome unfortunately, and I think the only way Nige avoids the sack is by going on some ludicrously great run of form, or being in the top 6. 

I suspect we are in a scenario where the Lansdowns are just waiting for the optimal time to fire him whilst ensuring they get the least amount of blowback. Probably a couple of defeats on the spin, or a drop in league position into the bottom half.

It may also depend on who they are looking at as a replacement. Some obvious names to them may be Nathan Jones, John Eustace, or Gary Rowett.

I wouldn't be surprised if our former u-23s coach Luke Williams, who has done a fine job at Notts C, was in the conversation too. Apparently retains a good relationship with Tinnion. 

Maybe I've overthought it, but those remarks from Nige yesterday were fairly unprecedented, and I just feel the end can't be too far away now. 

The only way he can save himself is to achieve an outstanding set of results, which seems a tall ask given the current state of the squad.

All sounds there or thereabouts to me, Will. Would be very disappointed however if they’re getting rid mainly because he’s strong and tells Junior what he thinks of him (which has been suggested)

[W-S-M Seagull]

2 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said:

The irony of murmurs within the hierarchy of the club regarding Kings inclusion and the restrictive self imposed playing budget set by the same hierarchy, resulting in us operating such a thin squad, I am sure is not lost on Nige.

The hierarchy are fast losing the fan base. Give him a new deal and a proper budget to compete.

It's not lost on any of us either. 

I think the majority of us thought that we needed to sign another cb in the summer, which we failed to do. 

We didn't need to splash the cash, just a similar amount that we spent on Dickie which has turned out to be a very astute signing. Had we of done that, we now wouldn't need to play King at CB. 

Same goes for playing him in midfield. We should have signed another midfielder too.

[Harry]

1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

The more I think about this, the more convinced I become that it's just a matter of when, not if, the trigger is pulled on Nige. 

I think it's becoming very obvious that his contract is not going to be renewed and it's incredibly rare for a manager to have a long-term contract and simply work until it expires, then leave. So that leaves two options, either poached by another club (v unlikely) or the sack/mutual consent.

It sounds to me like he has either been given an ultimatum on achieving results or get the sack, or possibly has got wind of that ultimatum, and it wasn't meant to be conveyed to him personally. 

He was a game away from being sacked twice last season, and survived by avoiding defeat in several key games. 

I said at the start of the season that he would probably be given even less breathing space this season and it seems like that is the case, and on top of that there has now evidently been a falling out of sorts that Nige has chosen to make public. 

It all points to only one outcome unfortunately, and I think the only way Nige avoids the sack is by going on some ludicrously great run of form, or being in the top 6. 

I suspect we are in a scenario where the Lansdowns are just waiting for the optimal time to fire him whilst ensuring they get the least amount of blowback. Probably a couple of defeats on the spin, or a drop in league position into the bottom half.

It may also depend on who they are looking at as a replacement. Some obvious names to them may be Nathan Jones, John Eustace, or Gary Rowett.

I wouldn't be surprised if our former u-23s coach Luke Williams, who has done a fine job at Notts C, was in the conversation too. Apparently retains a good relationship with Tinnion. 

Maybe I've overthought it, but those remarks from Nige yesterday were fairly unprecedented, and I just feel the end can't be too far away now. 

The only way he can save himself is to achieve an outstanding set of results, which seems a tall ask given the current state of the squad.

100% mate. 
I’ve thought for a while now that it’s a case of when not if. 
Not a single thought of mine has given credence to SL extending Nige’s contract. It’s been obvious to me for a few months now that he wasn’t going to be here next season. 
But now, with the comments Nige has made public (and he’s no fool, so there would be clear intent in his decision to do so), it’s becoming clear that he won’t be seeing out the season, and highly likely to be a lot sooner than that. 
 

What an absolute ****show 

[One Team]

30 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Yep OT I have done…

Thank you Dean and Nigel

Here is the current poll result, based on responses from circa 500 fans on the OTIB forum: 

Does Nigel Pearson deserve a contract renewal?

• Yes- 24 Months 84% 421 votes
• Yes - 12 Months 14%  71 votes 
• No - 2%                        12 votes 

 

Nice one mate! 

[Red from afar]

In my experience if a senior member of staff starts speaking out publicly against owners/CEOs, there's usually one outcome. The owner/ CEO may not be far behind in their departure because the person criticising is often correct, but they're not usually the first to go.

 

I hope I'm wrong though.

Edited October 22, 2023 by Red from afar

[RedEyez]

40 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Yep OT I have done…

Thank you Dean and Nigel

Here is the current poll result, based on responses from circa 500 fans on the OTIB forum: 

Does Nigel Pearson deserve a contract renewal?

• Yes- 24 Months 84% 421 votes
• Yes - 12 Months 14%  71 votes 
• No - 2%                        12 votes 

 

Thanks for doing this. Now we need to find a way of getting our message across to the board too. Some banners would be good before it’s too late. Not sure where to even start with that

[Ska Junkie]

I see there are rumours around about Gary Rowett, does anyone have any idea of their accuracy? Nothing against Rowett but I would prefer Nige.

KEEP ON FIGHTING MARTIN AMOS

[Kid in the Riot]

Where I do have some sympathy with the Lansdowns is Nige's health. A current as yet undiagnosed neurological condition that is basically making Nige immobile would have to be a consideration if you are thinking about giving him a longer contract.  It sounds quite concerning to me.

Football is a ruthless business and, where possible, you do need everyone firing at 100%. 

Nige seems unbothered by it, which is a great mentality to have, but I think we have to accept it must be at least a point of consideration for the owners going forward. 

[BarnzFM]

14 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Where I do have some sympathy with the Lansdowns is Nige's health. A current as yet undiagnosed neurological condition that is basically making Nige immobile would have to be a consideration if you are thinking about giving him a longer contract.  It sounds quite concerning to me.

Football is a ruthless business and, where possible, you do need everyone firing at 100%. 

Nige seems unbothered by it, which is a great mentality to have, but I think we have to accept it must be at least a point of consideration for the owners going forward. 

I’m wondering if this is where the irritated bit is coming from, asking his bosses for some clarity or assurances despite his condition but not hearing anything back

[Numero Uno]

Perhaps Ranieri has asked Steve if he can finish the job like he did last time he took over from Nige………

[petehinton]

19 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Where I do have some sympathy with the Lansdowns is Nige's health. A current as yet undiagnosed neurological condition that is basically making Nige immobile would have to be a consideration if you are thinking about giving him a longer contract.  It sounds quite concerning to me.

Football is a ruthless business and, where possible, you do need everyone firing at 100%. 

Nige seems unbothered by it, which is a great mentality to have, but I think we have to accept it must be at least a point of consideration for the owners going forward. 

I think part of his anger is clearly (in my mind) that he’s had no question or concern from the Lansdown’s about his health and how he’s doing. I think the ‘go try find someone who isn’t me to tell you’ comment I think is as pointed toward not knowing about his own contract situation, as well as just there being absolutely no comms at all from them to him for the last little while. 
 

I think the Nige of old may have even said something more cutting, along the lines of ‘I don’t even know if they work here anymore’ or words to that effect!

[Ska Junkie]

The forever Bristol city podcast discuss the situation from 30 minutes onwards. It's a decent listen in all honesty.

KEEP ON FIGHTING MARTIN AMOS 

[Numero Uno]

22 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Where I do have some sympathy with the Lansdowns is Nige's health. A current as yet undiagnosed neurological condition that is basically making Nige immobile would have to be a consideration if you are thinking about giving him a longer contract.  It sounds quite concerning to me.

Football is a ruthless business and, where possible, you do need everyone firing at 100%. 

Nige seems unbothered by it, which is a great mentality to have, but I think we have to accept it must be at least a point of consideration for the owners going forward. 

In that case don’t you at least speak to the bloke and convey your concerns?

[Superjack]

1 hour ago, marmite said:

SL will of course say to us " I'm glad you like Nigel, it was me who appointed him".

The first would be bullshit. The second would only technically be true.

[Bannerman]

20 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Where I do have some sympathy with the Lansdowns is Nige's health. A current as yet undiagnosed neurological condition that is basically making Nige immobile would have to be a consideration if you are thinking about giving him a longer contract.  It sounds quite concerning to me.

Football is a ruthless business and, where possible, you do need everyone firing at 100%. 

Nige seems unbothered by it, which is a great mentality to have, but I think we have to accept it must be at least a point of consideration for the owners going forward. 

Equality Act applies and must accommodate Nigel’s health issues whatever that might be the club cannot discriminate. It maybe the clubs view is not to renew his contract because of that which I find very distasteful 

[Superjack]

1 hour ago, Clutton Caveman said:

I think that Wednesday night is the perfect chance to send a message to the owners and create a massive show of support for NP.

Lets have some great and simple chants and keep them going all through the game.

Some decent banners would be good too

I fear it might well be too late.

[exAtyeoMax]

would they have someone lined up or will there be a vigorous/rigorous search taking weeks for the next chap?

Surely Jason and Curtis would be out too?

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, exAtyeoMax said:

would they have someone lined up or will there be a vigorous/rigorous search taking weeks for the next chap?

Surely Jason and Curtis would be out too?

And the physio and I wouldn’t see James and King hanging around too long either.

[Superjack]

1 minute ago, exAtyeoMax said:

would they have someone lined up or will there be a vigorous/rigorous search taking weeks for the next chap?

Surely Jason and Curtis would be out too?

Don't care. And won't until that family is out of OUR club.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said:

Could it be that Pearson is peed off with Lansdown as no contact has been made to see how he actually is following his operation. Bearing in mind that Lansdown made the effort to attend a Bears match and host a q and a. Would it have been too much trouble to drive 20 minutes to Nailsea and call in on Nige to wish him well.

NP has not had an operation, his condition is as yet undiagnosed, he is waiting on further test results before a prognosis is reached, and a treatment plan is implemented, rest assured he is having the very best informed advice that money can buy.

There is a great deal of speculation around NP and SL, but is there anyone who genuinely knows what that relationship is like? Very few I would suggest. Does NP crave praise? Doesn’t seem the type to me. Does SL demand weekly updates, I don’t see why he would.

NP has twice to my knowledge said to the press that they should ask a particular question of the people higher up, to me that means Jon Lansdown not Steve.

Since the sacking of the CEO there is no one between NP and JL in the food chain.
 

 

[Boston Red]

8 hours ago, Olé said:

To this day one of the most defining moments of the club since we got back to the Championship was an SL interview with Radio Bristol when in doing what he thought was attempting to draw fire away from LJ, he clumsily bigged up the fact that he would actually have calls with LJ on the Friday night before a game and on the Sunday after to debrief, as (his words - or at least something along these lines) a means for LJ to have someone to discuss his plans with.

At the time I thought it was very very odd and was quite surprised more wasn't made of it, I'd love to find the transcript again. It's why the appointment of Dean Holden was completely predictable and is why Nigel Pearson has always had a limited lifespan at Ashton Gate and he knows it (hence the constant comments about whether or not he is the one to finish the job or someone else will do so). NP knows very very well what SL wants from a manager - sorry Head Coach.

Pearson has done everything this club has badly needed - shed the bloated squad of indulged signings and average squad players, brought though youth, and created a tight unit and culture that we haven't had since the last promotion side. I also think he's created a sense of leadership and accountability that now runs through the footballing operation (whether explicitly or just by exposure to his standards). None of that is as important as the access that SL is missing.

Yep. And to back that up, Lansdown admitted on this forum that he was actually in the dressing room before a crunch tv match against Colchester when Tinnion was in charge, and under pressure. 

Then, after an away game at Hull on the last day of the season, Lansdown said of Sean O'Driscoll "Well, we are still getting used to Sean. He just likes to be left alone to get on with the job." ie I am not getting the access I want. 

[Gazred]

3 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

would they have someone lined up or will there be a vigorous/rigorous search taking weeks for the next chap?

Surely Jason and Curtis would be out too?

As a matter of principle I think the whole back room chooses to follow him if he goes.

We'd end up with King as caretaker or something.

[Henry]

1 minute ago, Gazred said:

As a matter of principle I think the whole back room chooses to follow him if he goes.

We'd end up with King as caretaker or something.

Not a chance.

[Superjack]

7 minutes ago, Gazred said:

As a matter of principle I think the whole back room chooses to follow him if he goes.

We'd end up with King as caretaker or something.

Might as well let Lansdown do it himself. It's what he wants and I would love to see the outcome on the pitch and in the stands.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Gazred said:

As a matter of principle I think the whole back room chooses to follow him if he goes.

We'd end up with King as caretaker or something.

Usually if the back room team aren’t sacked at the same time they wait to be dismissed when the new guy takes over, it’s their livelihood after all, they have bills to pay like the rest of us.

[Glen hump]

15 minutes ago, Countryfile said:

NP has not had an operation, his condition is as yet undiagnosed, he is waiting on further test results before a prognosis is reached, and a treatment plan is implemented, rest assured he is having the very best informed advice that money can buy.

There is a great deal of speculation around NP and SL, but is there anyone who genuinely knows what that relationship is like? Very few I would suggest. Does NP crave praise? Doesn’t seem the type to me. Does SL demand weekly updates, I don’t see why he would.

NP has twice to my knowledge said to the press that they should ask a particular question of the people higher up, to me that means Jon Lansdown not Steve.

Since the sacking of the CEO there is no one between NP and JL in the food chain.
 

 

Tinnion 

[Maltshoveller]

20 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

would they have someone lined up or will there be a vigorous/rigorous search taking weeks for the next chap?

Surely Jason and Curtis would be out too?

Could ether of them be the new No1

Just asking

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Glen hump said:

Tinnion 

Not a chance.

[mozo]

54 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Where I do have some sympathy with the Lansdowns is Nige's health. A current as yet undiagnosed neurological condition that is basically making Nige immobile would have to be a consideration if you are thinking about giving him a longer contract.  It sounds quite concerning to me.

Football is a ruthless business and, where possible, you do need everyone firing at 100%. 

Nige seems unbothered by it, which is a great mentality to have, but I think we have to accept it must be at least a point of consideration for the owners going forward. 

If the board were in favour of Nige and appreciated his work, you'd think they'd be fine with him letting Curtis do the training and the touchline, with Nige stepping back into a de facto DoF role but essentially still making match day decisions, albeit from a more comfortable place?