Mr Popodopolous Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Not great examples really, Mr Pops. Hull have been to the premier league and FA Cup Final in recent times. Birmingham also plus League Cup Finalists. Stoke a long stint in the premier league, particularly as I was responding to Thomas Red asking sardonically, "what have the Lansdowns ever done for us." Yes they did better, point is a number of them changed investors and this gave fresh impetus. Our big error or a big error was Janaury 2008, too timid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_red Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sleepy1968 said: And don't forget, that was from not pushing on in the January window when we were well placed for an automatic promotion place. And @Thomas_red has made 46 posts in 12 years. Draw your own conclusions there. Decent tenure low engagement? I was trying to illustrate that the poster sounded a lot like Monty Python sketch. Look, I wanted more success and probably with some better decisions on and off the pitch we might have done it. The LJ era for example was successive almost playoff seasons. Football is cruel and the margins are fine. All I’m saying is that the Lansdowns have acted with good intentions and made solid investments in club infrastructure as well as tried to establish a club with a business model (until our stadium development we didn’t even have corporate boxes). Maybe it is time for new owners and some fresh direction. But we’re only a slightly attractive proposition due to that investment and Lansdown will rightly want a decent fee for years of piling cash in… @Davefevs that car analogy is beneath you. A depreciating asset vs a revenue generating business... Really? Come on Edited October 29, 2023 by Thomas_red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted October 29, 2023 Admin Share Posted October 29, 2023 16 hours ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Lots of new posters on here all of a sudden. I smell Bristol Sport... All of a sudden this makes sense 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, phantom said: All of a sudden this makes sense They are all now saying thanks to Nige on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: They're all Joey Barton. He'll keep them ticking along for a while then if Nigel leaves there will be a deluge of posts from them saying that Barton is the best option. At first I thought you were joking… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 hours ago, richwwtk said: Who or what on earth is Dog? Am I right in thinking that the OP is suggesting that Bristol Sport are creating accounts purely to try and post positive things about the Lansdowns? OTIB has it's very own conspiracy theory! I fully realise that on this forum SL is now the devil incarnate and Nige is almost reaching godlike status, but this forum consists of less than 10% of the fanbase, and the vocal people here probably less than 2-3%. I don't think I have ever heard any City fan I speak to that isn't a user of this forum complain about the Lansdowns in a really serious manner and it certainly has not got worse recently. I will admit it's not a huge sample and very anecdotal, but it really doesn't feel to me like there is a groudswell of opinion against the current owners. I havew to admit that SL is certainly not perfect, his managerial appointments are hit and miss and have certainly been headscratching at times, but I do not believe that he doesn't have the best interests of the club at heart. Having said that, he has the best interests of sport in Bristol as a whole at heart (fewers aside), and I see how the two can be perceived as not always being compatible, People talk about the nest egg comment, it seems to me that it is a fairly sensible policy to have, and fully in keeping with the stated policy of making the club as sustainable as possible. I will agree that the whole Bristol Sport model is very 'corporate' and has taken away the feeling of it being 100% 'our' club, this is an opinion I voiced fairly regularly on here when Bristol Sport was first mooted as a concept but I was pretty much ignored then. I have now come to accept that it is a necessary evil in order for us to compete at the level we are now at. And just think how much less personal it will become should we suddenly be owned by a large multinational corporation or another country's wealth fund! For most fans, we are regularly competing at a higher level than at any time in our supporting lives, so it seems to me that even ignoring the ground and HPC SL would leave with a positive legacy should he disappear any time soon. The fact that people are unhappy with not being top 6 in the Championship should say everything, when most of our history has been spent bobbing around at the bottom of this division or top half of the one below. Should it be that Nigel Pearson is the one to go, then so far as I can see he has done a decent job without being amazing - managers such as that come and go over the years and he wouldn't be the first person to depart a job because he doesn't get on with the boss. You were not in the front carriages on the way back from 'diff then I assume? Fairly light-hearted discussions all things considered, but one lad argued backing SL and got roundly hammered for said opinion. Don't think you realise how much damage not backing Nige at all besides a loan after the Scott sale has damaged the average fans opinion on him. The average fan sees £23m pocketed and nothing reinvested and that's it. The second point in bold is what myself, Fevs, and others who look at the finances thought would have been the case following the 'Pillars' plan talked about under Cotts back in 2015. As Dawe stepped back and SL let MA/LJ have control and backed them to the hilt, where was the sustainability then? If he and JL stepped back from the club, remained underwriters, and appointed an experienced Chairman on a longer terms and structured plan and actually stuck to it, I'd have a hell of a lot more respect for the both of them. Namely because, as per point three in bold - his track record of appointments while holding Chairmanship (Tinnion, GJ, Millen, McInnes O'Driscoll, Holden, Pearson) is pretty tragic when you consider Cotts was a Dawe (13-18) appointment by all accounts. .... And he's just sacked NP I'm ******* done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 For what it's worth, sounds like we've been sold or very close too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 This is simply wrong in every possible way. Good luck Nige in whatever you choose to do. Thanks for bringing belief back to many of us fans. One day the fans will be able to acknowledge your major contribution to City. You have been very badly treated 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redordead1 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, Red Cloud said: For what it's worth, sounds like we've been sold or very close too Can you share more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 36 minutes ago, phantom said: All of a sudden this makes sense Any of the IP addresses match up with posters who are known employees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Just now, redordead1 said: Can you share more? Just "sounds like " that's all, I'm definitely not in the know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, Red Cloud said: For what it's worth, sounds like we've been sold or very close too You can’t just leave that out there , what do you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster Footman's T shirt Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Oh Louie louie said: Debating with anybody from Bristol sport about our history, would be like trying to explain astro physics to a cat, Post of the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Red Cloud said: For what it's worth, sounds like we've been sold or very close too I don't want to go on about boring fiscal stuff but would such a takeover were it to occur: A) Pass the new beefed up Takeover regulations. B) Do so quickly enough for January. C) Pass via the FCA. D) Produce a plan that satisfies the EFL in terms of compliance with all applicable refilaruins including EFL financial ones. I won't ask for specifics but this is all covered? Edited October 29, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Thomas_red said: Decent tenure low engagement? I was trying to illustrate that the poster sounded a lot like Monty Python sketch. Look, I wanted more success and probably with some better decisions on and off the pitch we might have done it. The LJ era for example was successive almost playoff seasons. Football is cruel and the margins are fine. All I’m saying is that the Lansdowns have acted with good intentions and made solid investments in club infrastructure as well as tried to establish a club with a business model (until our stadium development we didn’t even have corporate boxes). Maybe it is time for new owners and some fresh direction. But we’re only a slightly attractive proposition due to that investment and Lansdown will rightly want a decent fee for years of piling cash in… @Davefevs that car analogy is beneath you. A depreciating asset vs a revenue generating business... Really? Come on Both “playthings” to their respective owners though….there’s your analogy / comparison. Nothing will be beneath me today. I might be “on one”. I bloody angry. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted October 29, 2023 Admin Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Red Cloud said: For what it's worth, sounds like we've been sold or very close too 100% not true In fact at the end of last week (before the Pearson announcement) we are further away than we have been in a long time 1 hour ago, Henry said: Any of the IP addresses match up with posters who are known employees? Sadly don't have the exact Bristol Sport IP addresses, but without helping them in the future it's probably wise not to use their own names in their email addresses Of course the other tell tale sign they can't debate on anything historic about the club In the past they tend to drift away in a day or two 2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: It feels like the end of the line with SL though. Looking back now it's been apparent for a long time the drive has dipped, sadly it was handed on a plate for JL to take on but it soon became apparent he was far from suitable or experienced enough 7 hours ago, phantom said: Exactly the above, fortunately other admin and members are very good at spotting banned members Though it does amaze me how a couple of people consistently rejoin under a different name, then get banned and keep repeating the same process Unbelievable that one person who was banned that was discussed already on this thread actually set up ANOTHER account this afternoon.... and guess what.... They're banned AGAIN!! 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, phantom said: 100% not true In fact at the end of last week (before the Pearson announcement) we are further away than we have been in a long time Sadly don't have the exact Bristol Sport IP addresses, but without helping them in the future it's probably wise not to use their own names in their email addresses Of course the other tell tale sign they can't debate on anything historic about the club In the past they tend to drift away in a day or two Looking back now it's been apparent for a long time the drive has dipped, sadly it was handed on a plate for JL to take on but it soon became apparent he was far from suitable or experienced enough Unbelievable that one person who was banned that was discussed already on this thread actually set up ANOTHER account this afternoon.... and guess what.... They're banned AGAIN!! Oh, please do name and shame them! I promise I’ll never give you any aggro again!! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I've picked up 3 newbies in the last hour. Getting a tad daft now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I really think new registrations should be closed, at least for a short while. It's obvious what's going on here. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 43 minutes ago, Northern Red said: I really think new registrations should be closed, at least for a short while. It's obvious what's going on here. Totally agree. So many trolling pro Lansdown. Clearly not a coincidence. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Seems that a lot of them have the word red in their username. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Otib is ******* mental loads of new people joined the biggest bristol city forum the day Bristol city have massive news. I'm shocked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: Otib is ******* mental loads of new people joined the biggest bristol city forum the day Bristol city have massive news. I'm shocked. But you'd expect a broad range of opinions within all those new signups, no? Because pretty much all of them that I've seen have the same views - heavily pro-Lansdown, varying degrees of antipathy towards Pearson. And totally out of kilter with the general mood on here and other platforms. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Seems that a lot of them have the word red in their username. Oi... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: Otib is ******* mental loads of new people joined the biggest bristol city forum the day Bristol city have massive news. I'm shocked. They started last night before the news of today.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 10 hours ago, Street red said: Bristol sport that organisation that's done Bristol city FC a world of good!! The start of Lansdowns reign it seemed pretty Rosey the days he came on the pitch talked us fans it all seemed that the football club was moving forward,But things started to change it wasnt just the football club in his thoughts the club he so called loved and supported it was to add other clubs into a organisation to move Bristol rugby into Ashton gate to own the flyers and now Bristol city women into Bristol sport. Yes the ground was rebuilt but not just for the football club it was to be used for events ie concerts etc etc Bristol rugby's new home. The training ground which I feel is the only decent investment he's done for our football club, If all his investment was a sole project of Bristol city football club the ground still owned by the club concerts and other events bringing in a financial income.what I'm trying to say is it feels we've had our club and ground taken away that feel good factor of supporting a club but not an organisation a rich man's play toy. Just remember we came close all those years ago under Gary johnson but the football club had its own heart beat Ashton gate had a pulse we nearly achieved that premierleague spot. Now the football club under this Bristol sport umbrella feels flat as ever and worse off for it. Has Lansdown really benefited our football club!! Said the very thing years ago. On the whole, got lambasted for it. It's not a "told you so", just a nice to see people are getting wise to the fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) The events and concert revenue for the most part goes to the Football club via the consolidator. Some of the Sporting Quarter revenue might, *might* go towards it too- although I'm not certain on this point. Edited October 29, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Northern Red said: I really think new registrations should be closed, at least for a short while. It's obvious what's going on here. Are we saying here that people from BS are registering to try to influence opinion, like bots on Twitter? If so that is a batshit crazy thing to do for a football club. Edited October 29, 2023 by nebristolred 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Are we saying here that people from BS are registering to try to influence opinion, like bots on Twitter? If so that is a batshit crazy thing to do for a football club. Not if the owner is a narcissist it isn’t! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ferret Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Hello fellow fans. I too am a supporter of Bristol City soccer club. 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paignton red Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said: Seems that a lot of them have the word red in their username. Oi !!! (sorry, didn't see roger red hats post) Edited October 29, 2023 by paignton red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Can we have a list of suspect posters, or recently banned members? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Spooky, they seem to have all disappeared today. Bristol Sport bot bullshit. Do the morons at the club think we are all stupid....ok don't answer that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 14:17, Davefevs said: I see a club loaded with debt, that the owner wants most of it back? I bought a car 10 years ago for £25k, had 10 years of “pleasure” driving it, cost me another £5k in maintaining it, went to local VW dealership and they offered me £6k. Was shocked, I expected £25k at least. For someone in finance it’s incredibly naive to believe that you can make money out of football outside of the Premier League. Like the old joke goes: “How do you become a millionaire football club owner? Start as a billionaire!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: For someone in finance it’s incredibly naive to believe that you can make money out of football outside of the Premier League. Thought you were on about me initially 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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