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Just now, Atticus said:

I don't particularly love Pearson. He can grate my gears at times. But I can appreciate a determined and honest guy trying to do his best. Which he did. 

And I can recognise a disgraceful way which you can treat somebody. And this is absolutely disgraceful. 

I can also recognise an egomaniac narcissist when I see one. And Steve Lansdown is this. He will always inevitably be a detriment to the football club because of his immaturity to handle competent good managers. 

You know what I mean ie. He’s well supported, Cots used the word “loved” 😂

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4 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Against the joke of a board and their decision to fire Pearson.

Show Pearson the backing he still had from the fans.

SL had let down Cotts and threw him under the bus and now the same for Pearson. While in between the two, allowed Johnson to run this club into the ground season after season.

Time to force his hand and move this club on to someone capable.

This is nothing like Cotts.

Cotts was taking us down.

Pearson had us looking up and he was building something.

I’m pissed that they’ve got rid 

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4 hours ago, kevinmabbuttshair said:

The only protest this owner will take any notice of is a boycott.

 

Stay away. If you really feel that strongly then walk. If you keep going then you're supporting this decision. 

90% of the support don't have the backbone to stay away, or actually care about the effect it would have on Lansdown to hear the vast majority of seats were empty.

And the Lansdownes know it.

 

At the end of it all you reap what you sow.

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2 minutes ago, Atticus said:

I can also recognise an egomaniac narcissist when I see one. And Steve Lansdown is this. He will always inevitably be a detriment to the football club because of his immaturity to handle competent good managers. 

That’s pretty strong stuff.  I suppose anyone who plugs as much money into sport as Steve Lansdown has is bound to have some egotistical characteristics, but a narcissist?  Really?  You thenfollow that up with an accusation of immaturity, which bus a very odd thing to suggest of someone if Lansdown’s age.

As far as I can see, Lansdown’s main failings have been to put too much trust into some individuals, and to be too cautious when a little daring was called for.  However we are a mid table Championship club with more secure finances than some, so it’s hard to see him as ‘inevitably to the detriment of the club’.  Managers come and go, and I’m sure Pearson was savvy enough to know that his position after (by today’s standards) quite a long tenure and little progress in terms of league positions was always likely to be insecure.

Pearson has a record of gaining cult status amongst fans at various clubs, but has fallen out with most owners he’s worked for.  What has happened at City seems pretty much par for the course.

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14 minutes ago, Atticus said:

I can also recognise an egomaniac narcissist when I see one. And Steve Lansdown is this. He will always inevitably be a detriment to the football club because of his immaturity to handle competent good managers. 

Textbook small man syndrome. 

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My dad took me to my first game in 2001. I was 4 years old. I've had a season ticket for every season since. I won't be going anymore until the Lansdowns are gone, which utterly breaks my heart. But, I feel that strongly about this 'ownership'. This is no longer Bristol City FC. This is Steve Lansdown FC. He said in that interview in the summer, 'this is my club and I'll do what I want'. Well. Bristol City will be around a lot longer than you Steve, and you certainly won't be getting a single penny further off of me. 

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3 minutes ago, Son of Fred said:

90% of the support don't have the backbone to stay away, or actually care about the effect it would have on Lansdown to hear the vast majority of seats were empty.

And the Lansdownes know it.

 

At the end of it all you reap what you sow.

And this is the problem. I’ve never seen our fan base protest about anything. The only thing remotely like it was the bed sheets for LJ. 

Other clubs clearly do and sometimes things change as a result. It’d be nice to see some actual response to this rather than our fan base sleep walk to another crap Lansdown managerial appointment.

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19 minutes ago, Riaz said:

This is nothing like Cotts.

Cotts was taking us down.

Pearson had us looking up and he was building something.

I’m pissed that they’ve got rid 

??

Difference being that was pur first year in the championship under Cotterill. After he gave us one of our best seasons in recent memory. If not the best. 

 

The similarities are he was also not backed sufficiently. 

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4 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Against the joke of a board and their decision to fire Pearson.

Show Pearson the backing he still had from the fans.

SL had let down Cotts and threw him under the bus and now the same for Pearson. While in between the two, allowed Johnson to run this club into the ground season after season.

Time to force his hand and move this club on to someone capable.

I’m against the decision but there’s no chance I’m protesting and getting behind the team. Fleming and the lads need our support starting Saturday

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10 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

That’s pretty strong stuff.  I suppose anyone who plugs as much money into sport as Steve Lansdown has is bound to have some egotistical characteristics, but a narcissist?  Really?  You thenfollow that up with an accusation of immaturity, which bus a very odd thing to suggest of someone if Lansdown’s age.

As far as I can see, Lansdown’s main failings have been to put too much trust into some individuals, and to be too cautious when a little daring was called for.  However we are a mid table Championship club with more secure finances than some, so it’s hard to see him as ‘inevitably to the detriment of the club’.  Managers come and go, and I’m sure Pearson was savvy enough to know that his position after (by today’s standards) quite a long tenure and little progress in terms of league positions was always likely to be insecure.

Pearson has a record of gaining cult status amongst fans at various clubs, but has fallen out with most owners he’s worked for.  What has happened at City seems pretty much par for the course.

It's strong stuff but it's how I feel.

The evidence is there, and has been for years for me. 

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3 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said:

More than likely, the new man will be in charge by Saturday I reckon. Therefore any chants should be pre game, as the team and new manager need our support during it. 

Our new German manager will be in situ, we'll smash Wednesday 4-0 playing scintillating football and NP will be a distant memory, you heard it here first

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5 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said:

I’m against the decision but there’s no chance I’m protesting and getting behind the team. Fleming and the lads need our support starting Saturday

They aren’t mutually exclusive though are they? Anti-Lansdown protesting and supporting the team can happen on Saturday. 

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4 minutes ago, 1team said:

So your voice doesn't  matter then?.

I won't be protesting no. Lansdown will not sell the club, and he'll appoint who he wants. Protesting will achieve nothing.

I was one of a few, who felt last Xmas Pearson should have been sacked (After West Brom). He won me around and I was annoyed that the club had given him a shoestring budget and not supported him, and were building a nest egg, but I feel, this was because they didn't trust him, or his staff to take us forward. If his departure, means a manager will be brought in, who will be given an increased budget and in 8 weeks time will be able to add to the squad, then providing the new appointment is an established manager then I wont be too disappointed, as clearly Pearson was never going to be given the keys to the nest egg. 

It doesn't matter what the fans think, Lansdown will do as he wants, it's his money and he has put plenty of it, into the club. We're probably not even an attractive club for some rich yank or saudi to buy! Am I happy, no not really, but at the same time, if we get a good appointment and Lansdown lets them spend in January to improve us, then I wont lose any sleep over it either. 

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1 hour ago, firstdivision said:

When you say he allowed Lee Johnson to run the club into the ground season after season, are you including the seasons we finished 11th, 8th and 12th in the championship, our highest positions for nearly a decade, and some of our highest for 40 years? 

LJ burnt his way through millions in transfer fees and salaries, signed a farcical number of players in a scattergun fashion, failed to reach the playoffs and left the club massively in debt with a bloated squad of overpaid passengers. If we had a decent manager during that period of high spending SL might have got his wish of promotion to the Premier League 

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1 minute ago, robinforlife2 said:

I won't be protesting no. Lansdown will not sell the club, and he'll appoint who he wants. Protesting will achieve nothing.

I was one of a few, who felt last Xmas Pearson should have been sacked (After West Brom). He won me around and I was annoyed that the club had given him a shoestring budget and not supported him, and were building a nest egg, but I feel, this was because they didn't trust him, or his staff to take us forward. If his departure, means a manager will be brought in, who will be given an increased budget and in 8 weeks time will be able to add to the squad, then providing the new appointment is an established manager then I wont be too disappointed, as clearly Pearson was never going to be given the keys to the nest egg. 

It doesn't matter what the fans think, Lansdown will do as he wants, it's his money and he has put plenty of it, into the club. We're probably not even an attractive club for some rich yank or saudi to buy! Am I happy, no not really, but at the same time, if we get a good appointment and Lansdown lets them spend in January to improve us, then I wont lose any sleep over it either. 

I think you are making the point a lot of fans on here are: that of being fed up of Lansdown behaving like this and now a line has been crossed. Yes, he will do exactly as you’ve said, but that doesn’t mean we can’t let him know what we think of it. 

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4 hours ago, Super said:

Awful idea. Whatever has happened these players need our support they have given as much as they can.

That's me. I generally don't care about Managers, I go to support the players so I am not as upset as some seem to be.

From what I can gather he wasn't as popular with the players as some like to make out, Tinns also didn't like the way he would use and discard young players with little or no feedback as to why. Taylor-Clarke and Araoye for example.

So another man will come in and I will be there to back the players on the pitch, especially the youngsters who really need us.

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5 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Against the joke of a board and their decision to fire Pearson.

Show Pearson the backing he still had from the fans.

SL had let down Cotts and threw him under the bus and now the same for Pearson. While in between the two, allowed Johnson to run this club into the ground season after season.

Time to force his hand and move this club on to someone capable.

I’m sure that you have the best intentions. But with a squad decimated by injuries, and our academy replacements desperately needing our support, lets just roar the lads to 3 points this Saturday.

 

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5 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

You can protest against the board and support the team at the same time surely?

 

4 minutes ago, One Team said:

Yep, pretty much what I was saying earlier in the thread. 

I get that, but point was more around boycotts and doing stuff during games. For me we’ve got to get behind the players (probably reduced squad as it was the other games over the week)

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Just now, Charlie BCFC said:

 

I get that, but point was more around boycotts and doing stuff during games. For me we’ve got to get behind the players (probably reduced squad as it was the other games over the week)

I get what you are saying Charlie but this has crossed a line for me. He needs to know how (most of us) we feel. 

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Steve Lansdown is no football fan in the way most of us are. He’s a very wealthy individual who wants to have a legacy. His son was a fan but has moved away and is not engaged.

They don’t like managers who talk back. Lee Johnson, Dean Holden, keith millen,  and Derek McInnes were all completely or very inexperienced in english football management and could be expected to keep on message and not criticise.

The only two experienced managers Cotterill and now Pearson are out because they see through the incompetence and lack of vision from the top.

Lansdown got lucky with Gary Johnson but to be honest. it ended badly because Johnson was not really a championship/premier league manager as his later career sadly confirmed and Lansdown kept him when it was clear the players were losing trust. And lets not forget Steve Coppell who saw the writing on the wall and got out before he even started.

Steve Lansdown has put a lot of money in to his project but its not just about football its rugby basketball and his legacy, and because  of this lack of focus and maybe, in the past, with supporting inadequate managers because he was happy with them on a personal basis we have drifted for too long.

He wants to sell and is just treading water till he can find someone to buy him out - and i get better the devil you know - but I genuinely believe the Lansdown’s want out and sadly Mr Lansdown thank you but the sooner the better.

 

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37 minutes ago, Atticus said:

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Difference being that was pur first year in the championship under Cotterill. After he gave us one of our best seasons in recent memory. If not the best. 

 

The similarities are he was also not backed sufficiently. 

He was backed. He just went for unrealistic targets. Massive bids for Gray and Gayle

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3 minutes ago, Jimatno9 said:

Steve Lansdown is no football fan in the way most of us are. He’s a very wealthy individual who wants to have a legacy. His son was a fan but has moved away and is not engaged.

They don’t like managers who talk back. Lee Johnson, Dean Holden, keith millen,  and Derek McInnes were all completely or very inexperienced in english football management and could be expected to keep on message and not criticise.

The only two experienced managers Cotterill and now Pearson are out because they see through the incompetence and lack of vision from the top.

Lansdown got lucky with Gary Johnson but to be honest. it ended badly because Johnson was not really a championship/premier league manager as his later career sadly confirmed and Lansdown kept him when it was clear the players were losing trust. And lets not forget Steve Coppell who saw the writing on the wall and got out before he even started.

Steve Lansdown has put a lot of money in to his project but its not just about football its rugby basketball and his legacy, and because  of this lack of focus and maybe, in the past, with supporting inadequate managers because he was happy with them on a personal basis we have drifted for too long.

He wants to sell and is just treading water till he can find someone to buy him out - and i get better the devil you know - but I genuinely believe the Lansdown’s want out and sadly Mr Lansdown thank you but the sooner the better.

 

Don't forget about Coppell too. Who walked after two games. 

We will never progress while he have a clown running the club. 

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19 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

I’m sure that you have the best intentions. But with a squad decimated by injuries, and our academy replacements desperately needing our support, lets just roar the lads to 3 points this Saturday.

 

Again… you can fully do that whilst letting Lansdown know how you feel about the situation he has created 

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4 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Again… you can fully do that whilst letting Lansdown know how you feel about the situation he has created 

No. Just ask Joe James, Jamie Knight-Lebel and Ephraim Yeboah what they’d prefer. A chorus of boos, or a cheering home crowd?

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2 hours ago, cotswoldred2 said:

How do you know about the players feelings?  Nige can be a spikey old sod.

I mean Tommy has already thanked him publicly and being as they all went out and played their heart out for him I'd say they like him. 

I've lost count of how many managers I've seen leave this club because the players have given up on the manager, no sign of that here, in fact I'd say this is one of the hardest fighting teams I've seen since I was a teenager. 

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1 hour ago, Curr Avon said:

No. Just ask Joe James, Jamie Knight-Lebel and Ephraim Yeboah what they’d prefer. A chorus of boos, or a cheering home crowd?

They’d probably prefer not to have their gaffer sacked in the first place. 

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None of you are going to protest. 

You will give it all on here, but as soon as we win a corner on Saturday, you will forget all about it. 

I won't be protesting either. Because I won't be there. 

Not on Saturday. Not at any game until the Lansdowns **** off out of the club.

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8 hours ago, Riaz said:

He was backed. He just went for unrealistic targets. Massive bids for Gray and Gayle

How many times do we have to go through this? 

You have had this explained many times before, yet you persist with this bullshit. 

Carry on. I don't ****ing care any more.

 

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3 hours ago, Superjack said:

None of you are going to protest. 

You will give it all on here, but as soon as we win a corner on Saturday, you will forget all about it. 

I won't be protesting either. Because I won't be there. 

Not on Saturday. Not at any game until the Lansdowns **** off out of the club.

This is the thing isn’t it, we never do. Lansdown could change all the seats to blue and the name to Bristol United and people would still roll over and take it. Even just a banner or two or some chanting would be something, if nothing else to make the feelings known. 

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3 hours ago, Superjack said:

None of you are going to protest. 

You will give it all on here, but as soon as we win a corner on Saturday, you will forget all about it. 

I won't be protesting either. Because I won't be there. 

Not on Saturday. Not at any game until the Lansdowns **** off out of the club.

Sorry but you're so wrong, after spending the best part of 35 years supporting this club I'd say this is one of the worst decisions this club has made in that time and the clearest that they have no understanding of what the fans want and more to the point, they don't care either. 

I don't think I'll even watch the game from home, I won't be buying anything City related going forward. I'm genuinely happy to explore other routes for my footballing fix, clubs in lower leagues, foreign football etc

Think I've finally lost my passion for this club until something big happens at the top that shows the fans matter to the owners. For now Steve can keep paying off the losses himself because he's not getting a penny from me. 

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absolutely all in on a protest. steve reportedly wants to sell the club, so why is that drip jon making a decision like this and potentially diminishing its value?? seriously worried about the future now, especially with so many injuries.

i don’t remember seeing a decision this baffling and wholeheartedly opposed since… well a few weeks ago when birmingham sacked eustace but i thought even this pair of muppets were smarter than that!

they’ve let personal issues cloud their judgment yet again, and it’s about time we demand better. how long are we going to accept mediocrity and such a lack of ambition, whilst the owners bang on about actually having any.

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18 hours ago, Dredd said:

First suggestion, no eating or drinking inside the stadium. There's plenty of pubs, newsagents, bars around to get your pre match fill. 
Hit them where it hurts. 

I’m of the understanding the club lease out a majority of the kiosks so the only person you’ll be hurting is the companies who have paid to be there. 

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2 hours ago, jbcfc said:

absolutely all in on a protest. steve reportedly wants to sell the club, so why is that drip jon making a decision like this and potentially diminishing its value?? seriously worried about the future now, especially with so many injuries.

Apart from making an absolute mess of the kits etc JL is a waste of a position

Does anyone really think he had any input into this decision?

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Look Pearson is gone all the protests in the world won’t change this , they know it’s not a popular decision but do we know what they have planned , there could be a massive take over on horizon with a large input of cash who knows , I’ll tell you who knows Steve lansdown so instead of shouting obscenities on sat let’s just get behind OUR team and give em the backing they need as without a manager in place their going to need it 

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1 minute ago, Topper 123 said:

Look Pearson is gone all the protests in the world won’t change this , they know it’s not a popular decision but do we know what they have planned , there could be a massive take over on horizon with a large input of cash who knows , I’ll tell you who knows Steve lansdown so instead of shouting obscenities on sat let’s just get behind OUR team and give em the backing they need as without a manager in place their going to need it 

What a good little customer.

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17 hours ago, Jimatno9 said:

Steve Lansdown is no football fan in the way most of us are. He’s a very wealthy individual who wants to have a legacy. His son was a fan but has moved away and is not engaged.

They don’t like managers who talk back. Lee Johnson, Dean Holden, keith millen,  and Derek McInnes were all completely or very inexperienced in english football management and could be expected to keep on message and not criticise.

The only two experienced managers Cotterill and now Pearson are out because they see through the incompetence and lack of vision from the top.

Lansdown got lucky with Gary Johnson but to be honest. it ended badly because Johnson was not really a championship/premier league manager as his later career sadly confirmed and Lansdown kept him when it was clear the players were losing trust. And lets not forget Steve Coppell who saw the writing on the wall and got out before he even started.

Steve Lansdown has put a lot of money in to his project but its not just about football its rugby basketball and his legacy, and because  of this lack of focus and maybe, in the past, with supporting inadequate managers because he was happy with them on a personal basis we have drifted for too long.

He wants to sell and is just treading water till he can find someone to buy him out - and i get better the devil you know - but I genuinely believe the Lansdown’s want out and sadly Mr Lansdown thank you but the sooner the better.

 

I just see one problem - the Bristol Sport package as a whole that spans three sports. Is Lansdown going to separate BCFC (men's? or both?) from it or sell the lot as a package? If it's a single divestment then it could be very awkward in having the new owner renting the ground from SL and being on the hook for the commercial dep't (especially the shop front which would still continue to sell BS-brand gear).

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11 minutes ago, sephjnr said:

I just see one problem - the Bristol Sport package as a whole that spans three sports. Is Lansdown going to separate BCFC (men's? or both?) from it or sell the lot as a package? If it's a single divestment then it could be very awkward in having the new owner renting the ground from SL and being on the hook for the commercial dep't (especially the shop front which would still continue to sell BS-brand gear).

I don’t think anyone would contemplate buying BCFC Ltd (football club) without buying Ashton Gate Ltd (stadium) with it.

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7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I don’t think anyone would contemplate buying BCFC Ltd (football club) without buying Ashton Gate Ltd (stadium) with it.

So Lansdown has to sell BS at the same time, or pay rent for the ground for Rugby, women's and also the basketball development with it. I feel neither are going to happen without some serious negotiation.

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22 hours ago, Matty C said:

Can we not have different opinions without telling people to **** off? I think it is clear the majority of fans think this is a mistake, but there will always be people who disagree, which is okay isn't it?

For the record, I own my own business and I would not appreciate one of my staff (no matter how popular or good they are) questioning the way I run my business and I suspect this is what the Lansdowns really have problems with. 

I personally think that the club is in a much healthier position because of Nige and wish him all the very best

I'm going to make an assumption that the business you own is in a field you know well.  That's the difference. SL built a business from scratch and used the funds generated from scratch to buy something in a field he didn't know well.  If my assumption is right, your business ownership lends more similarity to Hargreaves Lansdown.  I wouldn't expect an employee of HL to be telling SL how to invest any more than one of your employees to question you.

 

I'm just surprised that on a protest thread we've managed to get to page 8 without anyone saying "I will booo-urns"!  That in itself should tell a story about how angry people are!

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11 minutes ago, sephjnr said:

So Lansdown has to sell BS at the same time, or pay rent for the ground for Rugby, women's and also the basketball development with it. I feel neither are going to happen without some serious negotiation.

Correct.

Hence why he only wants to sell the lot.  And nobody wants to buy it the price he wants.

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