Curr Avon Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 I've scoured the Dutch Leagues for the perfect manager who's great with money. Eric Nes Teg, of FC Vim. Vim are no Ajax, but they wipe the floor with the opposition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 All this talk of Eustace, Jones, Rowett is just making my blood boil even more. If they are seen as the people to take us forward then FML. If we were talking about bringing in someone like Potter or Kompany (if he leaves Burnley) then I could understand as that would be forward thinking. But Eustace, Jones or Rowett? Nah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said: All this talk of Eustace, Jones, Rowett is just making my blood boil even more. If they are seen as the people to take us forward then FML. If we were talking about bringing in someone like Potter or Kompany (if he leaves Burnley) then I could understand as that would be forward thinking. But Eustace, Jones or Rowett? Nah. In fairness, they're not quite as bad as some people are making out. Eustace was doing a good job at Birmingham. Rowett has done a decent job at Millwall. Agree with you last point though - Pearson to Rowett (who seems the most rumoured) feels like a rather sideways move. Pearson has been fired for being the manager of a midtable Championship club who have failed to get into the top 6 despite working on a small budget, whilst he has also received criticism (rightly or wrongly) for the style of football his team plays. Meanwhile, Rowett has been fired for being the manager of a midtable Championship club who have failed to get into the top 6 despite working on a small budget, whilst he has also received criticism (rightly or wrongly) for the style of football his team plays. I don't really see much logic in going from one to the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: I've scoured the Dutch Leagues for the perfect manager who's great with money. Eric Nes Teg, of FC Vim. Vim are no Ajax, but they wipe the floor with the opposition. Gritty opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kimpton said: I’ve stuck a 10er on Rowett so it’s win win if he becomes manager I get £90 and if he doesn’t then we don’t need to see his 352 snoozeball. I’m going to go out on a limb and say Frank Lampard please, we want to grow so let’s go big time. Oh look another newbie. Lampard eff me sideways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 I don't believe it will be any of the 3 that Sky said we are interested in, it will be an "up and coming" lower league coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 So utterly depressing. None of the candidates are an upgrade on Pearson. Pearson had a respected track record with the club, knew the squad, and sticking with him came with the benefit of established popularity - and patience - from the fans, as well as being Ioved by the players. None of the bang average candidates get anywhere near justifying throwing all of that away. Mad. Just mad. It’s going to be messy at Ashton Gate next game. And if the new guy opens with three straight defeats without any of that established popularity to fall back on - it could be absolute carnage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kimpton said: I would be happy with Frank Lampard brings contacts and has manager young players did ok at Derby no more but prefer him to the likes of other names mentioned. Who wouldn't with Tomoroi, Mount etc plus excessive overspending. Still failed though didn't he. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kimpton said: I would be happy with Frank Lampard brings contacts and has manager young players did ok at Derby no more but prefer him to the likes of other names mentioned. So you joined 17 MINUTES AGO!!!! Sod off sunshine... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) Has Warnock definitely retired this time? Edited October 30, 2023 by ChippenhamRed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: I don't believe it will be any of the 3 that Sky said we are interested in, it will be an "up and coming" lower league coach. Basement Jax? He'd get a tune of the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 My god if it’s Gary rowett. Cant see any tangible reason for someone to want him in over Nige, except the fact that he might not be as outspoken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 One of the problems here is Nige had a presence and respect. An incoming L1 type youngster will need to win the squad over, that is a tough ask. Not like we are in the bottom 3 and needed change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, spudski said: If it does turn out to be Rowett appointed, then this is a recent and decent analysis of his style of play whilst at Millwall. I can't see how he will be a decent fit with the players we have to hand. Interesting that it mentions he was released as the board were disappointed he couldn't achieve the play offs... https://totalfootballanalysis.com/team-analysis/efl-championship-202324-millwall-tactical-analysis-tactics For all those fans saying, big deal sacking NP, he's just an expendable coach, a new one can come in and progress the team....here is the reality. That theory only works if you have a succession strategy, you have a vision and a plan - in terms of playing ethos and style and therefore manager. Do we have that?? Rowett appears, in footballing style terms, is very different to NP. So the squad NP has assembled doesn't on paper appear to suit Rowett's style. So from a squad/footballing point of view, SL could have us back at square one, with a manager (In Rowett's case with little/no record of success) who treads water for rest of season, wants a whole load of cash to rebuild in Jan/Summer and so the Lansdown cycle of stagnation goes on. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alessandro said: For all those fans saying, big deal sacking NP, he's just an expendable coach, a new one can come in and progress the team....here is the reality. That theory only works if you have a succession strategy, you have a vision and a plan - in terms of playing ethos and style and therefore manager. Do we have that?? Rowett appears, in footballing style terms, is very different to NP. So the squad NP has assembled doesn't on paper appear to suit Rowett's style. So from a squad/footballing point of view, SL could have us back at square one, with a manager (In Rowett's case with little/no record of success) who treads water for rest of season, wants a whole load of cash to rebuild in Jan/Summer and so the Lansdown cycle of stagnation goes on. Exactly that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, Alessandro said: For all those fans saying, big deal sacking NP, he's just an expendable coach, a new one can come in and progress the team....here is the reality. That theory only works if you have a succession strategy, you have a vision and a plan - in terms of playing ethos and style and therefore manager. Do we have that?? Rowett appears, in footballing style terms, is very different to NP. So the squad NP has assembled doesn't on paper appear to suit Rowett's style. So from a squad/footballing point of view, SL could have us back at square one, with a manager (In Rowett's case with little/no record of success) who treads water for rest of season, wants a whole load of cash to rebuild in Jan/Summer and so the Lansdown cycle of stagnation goes on. I bow to the superior knowledge that the likes of yourself and @spudski and @Davefevs have when it comes to tactics and styles. But what you describe is exactly what I’ve said a number of times both before and after yesterdays sacking: we have a terrible track record of managing any sort of transition in a way that provides continuity and consistency. We either change everything completely. Or we seem to equate consistency with an internal appointment and all that they’ve given us is consistent disappointment. I’m not as furious as many others over NPs departure, but I’m utterly depressed at the prospect of us making the same mistake again. Just out of interest, do any of the three of you see anyone among the lists of potential names who’d provide us with a smoother transition? Are there others whose ethos and style would fit better with the players we’ve got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Still angry at the whole situation here, but now the most depressing thought is just the fact that we are now almost certainly looking at 2 to 3 years of mediocrity at best, and potentially playing god awful football depending on who comes in. Only to probably repeat the ****ing process all over again at the end of it. All hope and optimism has just faded to be honest, I have little interest in seeing us spend a load of money just to potentially see poor football and achieve potentially less. Feeling apathetic towards City for the near to medium future now which is the worst of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, Alessandro said: For all those fans saying, big deal sacking NP, he's just an expendable coach, a new one can come in and progress the team....here is the reality. That theory only works if you have a succession strategy, you have a vision and a plan - in terms of playing ethos and style and therefore manager. Do we have that?? Rowett appears, in footballing style terms, is very different to NP. So the squad NP has assembled doesn't on paper appear to suit Rowett's style. So from a squad/footballing point of view, SL could have us back at square one, with a manager (In Rowett's case with little/no record of success) who treads water for rest of season, wants a whole load of cash to rebuild in Jan/Summer and so the Lansdown cycle of stagnation goes on. This is where we have been before . 1) Sack manager 2) New Manager doesn't want squad as doesn't fit his style 3) Buy players & increase size of squad at great cost 4) Improvement not seen or start to struggle 5) See No.1 Where those teams that SL gets all gooey over succeed, is the planning for the next man. If they play a high press, employ a manager that uses a high press. Bringing in a manager renowned for possession football into a direct side isn't going to work. Sadly, I doubt that Jon & Steve even consider this. Can't help feeling if we get the right man in and it works, it will be pure accident . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Wouldn’t rule out Curtis getting it if he has a good start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 I would take Ryan Mason any day over the likes of Rowett Jones and Eustace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Nugget said: Wouldn’t rule out Curtis getting it if he has a good start I absolutely would. His family home is in the North East, he’s Nige’s appointment & we are looking elsewhere. Might not even be in charge for a game. No chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 7 hours ago, Med/MadHatter said: Jon Lansdown probably thinks that he can get Claudio Ranieri in to finish off Nige's hard work for the second time, that's how deluded the crayon chewer and his Dad is! I wouldn't be surprised if he's been tapping up Mark Robins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 8 hours ago, firstdivision said: Good joke but it’s not though, is it? All three have had some success in the Championship. Who would you go for, Pete? A Cardiff fan who basically refuses to acknowledge academies exist, a man who’s had one season at this level and finished below us in 17th, and a man who’s last 2 (maybe even 3) clubs have had fans chanting that the football is shit. I see none as an understandable upgrade or change on what we had. I’ve said I’d personally try out luck for Carsley at the FA. Probably get knocked back, then test the nerve of Portsmouth and Oxford for Mousinho/Manning respectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Not that there is any love from me towards Gary Rowett (in fact I’m not arsed at all to be honest as our manager should be Nigel Pearson), but I don’t quite get the outrage from people towards him. I’d imagine our next appointment will be much, much worse than Gary Rowett, he’s actually capable of being employed by another championship club. I expect our manager will be like Cole Skuse or something equally as mental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, italian dave said: I bow to the superior knowledge that the likes of yourself and @spudski and @Davefevs have when it comes to tactics and styles. But what you describe is exactly what I’ve said a number of times both before and after yesterdays sacking: we have a terrible track record of managing any sort of transition in a way that provides continuity and consistency. We either change everything completely. Or we seem to equate consistency with an internal appointment and all that they’ve given us is consistent disappointment. I’m not as furious as many others over NPs departure, but I’m utterly depressed at the prospect of us making the same mistake again. Just out of interest, do any of the three of you see anyone among the lists of potential names who’d provide us with a smoother transition? Are there others whose ethos and style would fit better with the players we’ve got? It’s impossible to guess how a new manager eases transition from old manager. But Nige had made us hard to beat, instilled good defensive capabilities, so maybe Rowett. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, italian dave said: I bow to the superior knowledge that the likes of yourself and @spudski and @Davefevs have when it comes to tactics and styles. But what you describe is exactly what I’ve said a number of times both before and after yesterdays sacking: we have a terrible track record of managing any sort of transition in a way that provides continuity and consistency. We either change everything completely. Or we seem to equate consistency with an internal appointment and all that they’ve given us is consistent disappointment. I’m not as furious as many others over NPs departure, but I’m utterly depressed at the prospect of us making the same mistake again. Just out of interest, do any of the three of you see anyone among the lists of potential names who’d provide us with a smoother transition? Are there others whose ethos and style would fit better with the players we’ve got? Well we presume what will be expected from the new coach stays the same: develop youth, buy cheap and add value. Make the squad greater than the sum of it's parts. Work within tight (midtable) budgets. Eustace and Rowett have both done some of those things, but with quite defensive/hard to beat styles of play. Eustace fired in part IIRC for the football not being exciting enough for the owners? I really don't know - some of my best options I would say are in jobs currently. Could we poach someone like Liam Rosenior or more realistically a Steven Schumacher type? Micheal Duff widely considered an excellent coach at improving players too. The bigger names not in jobs I don't see working under all of those above conditions, unless SL promises them big cash to spend (change of strategy, again). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: I don't believe it will be any of the 3 that Sky said we are interested in, it will be an "up and coming" lower league coach. I agree...more likely to be someone like Michael Beale or Liam Manning... Michael Beale as a No1 = 65 games, Win %age 61% Liam Manning Career = 140 games, Win %age 47% Both will be a cheaper option than most and SL will like this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tomo said: I agree...more likely to be someone like Michael Beale or Liam Manning... Michael Beale as a No1 = 65 games, Win %age 61% Liam Manning Career = 140 games, Win %age 47% Both will be a cheaper option than most and SL will like this Beale won’t be cheap having been at Rangers and is full of himself. Manning will cost compo. I don’t think either will be cheap all-told….but that’s only my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 I'm leaning more towards John Eustace. No reason. He looks quite nice in a tracksuit but he hasn't tried our training gear yet… 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 23 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’s impossible to guess how a new manager eases transition from old manager. But Nige had made us hard to beat, instilled good defensive capabilities, so maybe Rowett. 19 minutes ago, Alessandro said: Well we presume what will be expected from the new coach stays the same: develop youth, buy cheap and add value. Make the squad greater than the sum of it's parts. Work within tight (midtable) budgets. Eustace and Rowett have both done some of those things, but with quite defensive/hard to beat styles of play. Eustace fired in part IIRC for the football not being exciting enough for the owners? I really don't know - some of my best options I would say are in jobs currently. Could we poach someone like Liam Rosenior or more realistically a Steven Schumacher type? Micheal Duff widely considered an excellent coach at improving players too. The bigger names not in jobs I don't see working under all of those above conditions, unless SL promises them big cash to spend (change of strategy, again). Thanks. William Still has been mentioned a few times as a possible left field candidate. Would he be realistic, a good fit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Kimpton said: Eustace in to 13/8 and Rowett 5/2. Two horse race maybe, both 8/1 yesterday. You do realise this means nothing, right? Odds are shortening simply because of where people are placing their bets. Bookies know nothing, just like us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: Has Warnock definitely retired this time? No, he's joining QPR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Selred said: No, he's joining QPR! I read they are more interested in Sabri Lamouchi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kimpton said: Really if that’s the case where is Sir Alex or I would like to put a bet on Big Ron, of course they mean something they don’t need to be in the know to create an educated list. Bizarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, italian dave said: Thanks. William Still has been mentioned a few times as a possible left field candidate. Would he be realistic, a good fit? Surely not realistic given Reims are currently sat 5th in Ligue 1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, RedEyez said: You do realise this means nothing, right? Odds are shortening simply because of where people are placing their bets. Bookies know nothing, just like us. Cotterill as favourite yesterday demonstrated that better than anything I think Ive ever seen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Med/MadHatter Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, LoyalRed said: I wouldn't be surprised if he's been tapping up Mark Robins I'd be surprised if they didn't surreptitiously reach out to him after we played Coventry tbh, Steve's younger lookalike wouldn't be too bad in all honesty, better than blummin Rowett anyways 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatn Over Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Med/MadHatter said: I'd be surprised if they didn't surreptitiously reach out to him after we played Coventry tbh, Steve's younger lookalike wouldn't be too bad in all honesty, better than blummin Rowett anyways And if Coventry get turned over by WBA tonight !………. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 JL video coming out discussing it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Beale won’t be cheap having been at Rangers and is full of himself. Manning will cost compo. I don’t think either will be cheap all-told….but that’s only my view. I don't think Beale will demand high wages regardless of his Rangers post....he's only been a number 1 for 65 matches in total.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 In all seriousness, what will a manager coming in be able to change? We still have soo many injuries and a threadbare squad, with no transfer window in sight. I can't see this starting well atall, that combined with fan frustration... I still can't see the logic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityboy1954 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, italian dave said: Cotterill as favourite yesterday demonstrated that better than anything I think Ive ever seen! Might need cotts to get us out of league 1 better than the three mentioned just means Lansdown must apologise for last time he was here Edited October 30, 2023 by Cityboy1954 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Timing of the next appointment will be interesting - feels like this time it needs to be a quick appointment. Earlier this week - they were already pretty much lined up. End of week/early next week - see above or TBF to the club they've got a plan, drawn up a list and got their man quickly. Anything into end of next week or week after - They had no plan and I will be worried the process not going as easily as they expected i.e targets are turning us down. IMO the new man should be at the Sheff Wednesday game, at least watching, if not in full charge yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 It’s going to be Luke Williams , just a hunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 16 hours ago, City1984 said: Sorry not read thread yet as only just seen news and head is spinning but thought I'd throw another unrealistic name out there ( apologies if already mentioned, as I say not had time to rad yet) Graham Potter That would see his career going like this: Norway Swansea/Championship Brighton/moving up Prem Chelsea/Europe Bristol City/15th Championship (but with a "nest egg") I can't see it meself, but .... what do you think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxi for hunt Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 surprised Allardyce isn't on the radar, certainly not a yes man though so rules him out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Floatn Over said: And if Coventry get turned over by WBA tonight !………. I've been considering this possibility. Coventry are on a run of something like 1 win in 11. Lose tonight and that will be 3 losses in a row. I can't see they getting rid but that's a far worse record than Pearson was on. I'd personally not want him here but I could potentially see it happen. I'm sure Tinnion and Robins must have played together? So if Tinnion is leading on recruitment then if they know each other then that could come into it. Edited October 30, 2023 by W-S-M Seagull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarumred Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: I've bene considering this possibility. Coventry are on a run of something like 1 win in 11. Lose tonight and that will be 3 losses in a row. I can't see they getting rid but that's a far worse record than Pearson was on. I'd personally not want him here but I could potentially see it happen. I wouldn't rule him out. He spent a great deal of money in the summer and he hasn't been getting the results this season. Loose tonight and he could find himself out of a job in a day or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moulin Rougier Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 I don't agree with the sacking of Nige, quite frankly its embarrassing but dealing with the situation we're in, looking at who is out there, I'd go Eustace. Played good football with Kidderminster, had some success and reached the playoffs (albeit much lower division) Has experience at international level with Ireland. For some reason I like managers that get themselves out there and do this Did well with Birmingham. Widely touted to finish bottom, he got them performing really well. All whilst dealing with off pitch nonsense which shows he can shut out the noise, focus on the football, connect with the players and get results. He might need that experience here if there is fallout from the sacking.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollywhyte Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Moulin Rougier said: I don't agree with the sacking of Nige, quite frankly its embarrassing but dealing with the situation we're in, looking at who is out there, I'd go Eustace. Played good football with Kidderminster, had some success and reached the playoffs (albeit much lower division) Has experience at international level with Ireland. For some reason I like managers that get themselves out there and do this Did well with Birmingham. Widely touted to finish bottom, he got them performing really well. All whilst dealing with off pitch nonsense which shows he can shut out the noise, focus on the football, connect with the players and get results. He might need that experience here if there is fallout from the sacking.... Worth noting we also have a Irish contingent of players who will have worked with him already. Potential for Curtis Fleming to remain in position for that consistency with the players I suppose as well? He will also know Rob Dickie from spell at QPR. Edited October 30, 2023 by ollywhyte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redpole Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: Beale won’t be cheap having been at Rangers and is full of himself. Manning will cost compo. I don’t think either will be cheap all-told….but that’s only my view. I would also include Ryan Mason in that thinking as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh95 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 I have not read all the comments.Uwe rosler,jesse marsch or ralph hasenhuttl. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, josh95 said: I have not read all the comments.Uwe rosler,jesse marsch or ralph hasenhuttl. What an unusual shortlist. The early linked seem to be Eustace, Rowett and Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicdaps Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Having had 24hrs, or thereabouts, to digest this, it just makes less and less sense the more I think about it. Has a sacking ever been so universally opposed by the respective fanbase...I can't think of an example. It's the misreading of the room and tone deafness which is astounding. I almost feel sorry for the new man, whomever he may be, because normally they are treated like a breath of fresh air to a greater or lesser extent which can then manifest into the bounce effect that you see so often. Granted, not always, but you know what I mean. This appointment will have to not only hit the ground running with a depleted squad etc. but also deal with the potentially toxic circumstances created by SL. I can accept failure in sport, for the majority of teams that is the inevitable outcome in many ways, but only if you give yourselves the best chance to succeed in the first place. Simply put, we just don't do the latter and that's what frustrates me most of all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddarwedlocker Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Wheres Bcfcshags when you need him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Nobody seems to have mentioned Chris Hughton..........wasn't that long ago he was being lauded by all and sundry. How quickly things change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Let’s just say the rumour about Pearson being told what he had to expect, (no funds out of contract players etc). going forward and basically told the board to stuff it, is true. It will certainly show the board has lied if the next manager comes in and doesn’t get given exactly the same deal as Pearson. It will also show, they definitely offered terms they knew Pearson would refuse. There’s no way a new manager would accept those terms, what would be the draw or attraction for anyone coming here. Just be honest and up front. I think fans would have preferred a straight up “we’re not able to work together” or “we’re going in a different direction” than this shambles. I can’t believe there won’t suddenly be funds available when we sign a new deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRobin Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) Anyone mentioned that Will Still from Ligue 1. Young but has does an impressive job so far - bit of a punt all the same. What are people’s thoughts ? Lots of opportunities for puns as well Edited October 30, 2023 by LondonRobin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Rollason Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 47 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: What an unusual shortlist. The early linked seem to be Eustace, Rowett and Jones. I'd be interested in Ralph for sure. Hard done by at saints, got a point to prove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Will Rollason said: I'd be interested in Ralph for sure. Hard done by at saints, got a point to prove. Don't get me wrong, Hasenhuttl best if the 3, Marsch possibly a but hard done by in terms of Leeds but none of them feel likely do they. Would surely want a bit of money to spend too. Still would be somewhat dismayed post NP for a while yet. Can't really enthuse for new managerial options yet. Edited October 30, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 It won't happen but I love Big Ralph. There's just something fun about him. That's the end of my analysis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Rollason Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, JP Hampton said: I can’t believe there won’t suddenly be funds available when we sign a new deal. It may well have been as simple as "We're not going to 're new your contract ,for reasons , and we're not giving you any players, do you want to see your contract out or we can fire you and pay you off? " There's always money for the new guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Will Rollason said: There's always money for the new guy. Not especially for NP tbh! His was a cost cutting, restraint in the market, blooding some youth, extracting value from the pick while making the side more cohesive remit. This is how we repay him? Disgusting. Edited October 30, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Rollason Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Don't get me wrong, Hasenhuttl best if the 3, Marsch possibly a but hard done by in terms of Leeds but none of them feel likely do they. Would surely want a bit of money to spend too. Still would be somewhat dismayed post NP for a while yet. Can't really enthuse for new managerial options yet. I hear you. Going to have to be the mother of all appointments because let's be honest we were all a little bit surprised that Nigel came here in the first place and seemed a great bite of businesss... much will be revealed by who we employ next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 7 hours ago, Kimpton said: I would be happy with Frank Lampard brings contacts and has manager young players did ok at Derby no more but prefer him to the likes of other names mentioned. No punctuation, typos… Tinman, is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Will Rollason said: It may well have been as simple as "We're not going to 're new your contract ,for reasons , and we're not giving you any players, do you want to see your contract out or we can fire you and pay you off? " There's always money for the new guy. That’s my point how can they find funds for the new guy when they couldn’t for Pearson. Back to my original conviction this was personal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, LondonRobin said: Anyone mentioned that Will Still from Ligue 1. Young but has does an impressive job so far - bit of a punt all the same. What are people’s thoughts ? Lots of opportunities for puns as well I think the general feeling is he would be out of reach. Has Reims 5th in Ligue 1 and only 5 pts off top. Would love to see him here but, we almost certainly couldn't get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Warnock’s available, then… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 15:49, 'Pack' It In said: Talkshite are keen on Dean Smith. Dean Smith did a good job at Brentford on a small budget, had them playing good football too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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