Dave Rennie

[hinsleburg]

Thought he deserved his own thread, I appreciate this may turn into an 'injury crisis' discussion which I don't want  but really don't think that's down to any individuals. 

What he has done though is made us as a squad fitter over 90 minutes,  we run more, we run longer and we run harder. (Got no metrics so only going off the eye...)

I've loved watching him in the videos, doing the tour with new signings before murdering them with running with a big grin on his face.

Talking to somebody senior at another club who said we've introduced loads of new technology and use different metrics behind the scenes since Rennie arrived which other clubs have been trying to copy and replicate. Whenever people refer to Nige as a dinosaur I always point out that the person he puts the most faith in is the Science, modern thinking Rennie.

I think we will miss him and seems a thoroughly good bloke 

[Numero Uno]

Crayon Boy will have a cunning plan, don't you worry.

[SecretSam]

He's almost as big a loss as Pearson. I despair.

[tin]

36 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

He's almost as big a loss as Pearson. I despair.

Agreed. A real specialist in his field who we were very lucky to have. 

While we have 12 players out currently, only one of them is non-contact and could be pointed at him if someone wanted to use that as a stick to beat him with. 

[GrahamC]

Absolutely.

Frustrated by the number of injuries at present but still recognise this bloke was a leader in his field.

He was the only staff member who was also a mate of Nige’s, even more than Curtis, so was never sticking around after he was sacked.

Another legacy of our blundering owner.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

21 minutes ago, tin said:

Agreed. A real specialist in his field who we were very lucky to have. 

While we have 12 players out currently, only one of them is non-contact and could be pointed at him if someone wanted to use that as a stick to beat him with. 

Totally agree. No fitness coach can legislate for contact injuries. It's testament to his, regime that our fitness levels gave improved significantly and that hamstring and groin strain injuries are kept to a minimum 

[Davefevs]

As I’ve mentioned before I met up with Rennie over the summer, just before they headed off to Austria.

The bloke is class.  The detail they go into on everything, not just physical data is the complete opposite of a dinosaur leading it.

I think he will be a big loss.

[Davefevs]

Just heard Paddy Orme going too.  Think it’s unrelated as they advertised for a job fitting his role last month.

[Olé]

50 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

As I’ve mentioned before I met up with Rennie over the summer, just before they headed off to Austria.

The bloke is class.  The detail they go into on everything, not just physical data is the complete opposite of a dinosaur leading it.

I think he will be a big loss.

He and Orme (and Euell at times) were visibly also very active in the work Matt Parsons organises at away games to deliver excess food to homeless shelters - and Rennie was clearly more to the squad than just the medical guy. Again very visible in videos how much he helped build the culture with NP where staff put an arm around and take an interest in players and do so with a smile on their face.

As people with no prior affiliation to Bristol let alone our club, Pearson and Rennie bought into everything about BCFC and the area and what it means to represent us and act with class and integrity in building a positive culture. This could be posted in any one of countless threads but the contrast and juxtaposition with the total absence of class from the Lansdown family in handling this is quite jarring. 

 

[David Brent]

He always appeared in the ‘first day as a Robin’ videos after a new signing had arrived.

Always spoke so well and was a great introduction to the club

[lenred]

It just beggars belief.   What a ******* absolute shambles….

[Northern Red]

There was a bit in one of the new signing videos in the summer (think it was McCrorie) where Rennie is talking to the player and says something like "it's taken us 2 years to get it how we want it here".

It was evident from those videos how much of a role he plays, beyond pure fitness and medical work, and he leaves a huge hole to fill.

 

 

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

It's a shit show this is all.

Euell is gone too and he's a massive reason for the academy players getting better.

This is a regressive step.

[Merrick's Marvels]

Seldom, if ever, have we employed so many eminently qualified people on our Coaching staff.

And now they're leaving in droves just because the owner's a thin skinned baby.

Back to the blaggers, bullshitters, no-marks and quacks we go - pitiful.

Amateur hour at its finest. Yet again.

Edited October 30, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels

[Roger Red Hat]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Paddy Orme

Who he?

[Olé]

12 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Seldom, if ever, have we employed so many eminently qualified people on our Coaching staff.

Ad now they're leaving in droves just because the owner's a thin skinned baby.

Again, I could post this in any number of threads at the moment as it's not specific to Rennie or Euell, but I have absolutely no idea what Lansdown wants anymore. 

If he desperately wanted a head coach in a structure that offers stability and succession surely having so many qualified people around Pearson including a highly rated coach like Euell is the perfect platform for that. It's not clear if Euell was also binned off or was offered a role and stuck two fingers up out of loyalty to Pearson (would make some sense), but either way for Lansdown to clearly want a change but preside over such ham-fisted mismanagement of the transition to whatever it is he actually wants, beggars belief.

You can't have stability and succession if you take such clumsy, classless and pre-meditated decisions, and you won't develop good young coaches if you keep torpedoing the first sign of a culture of leadership from the top of your footballing staff that is successfully relaying priceless experience into your leaders of the future (I would include King in that too). Put together with statements about how he wants to run the club, Lansdown no longer strikes me as a rational owner with any agenda besides for his own indulgence.

As such, it's not simply the case (as I've seen written elsewhere) of fans starting to ask questions. It's far far beyond that. For me it's now urgent that the club is sold and we move on from his fantasy and delusion before the next 3 year reset, and sensible fans must do everything in their power to agitate for this. This isn't simply out of deference to NP, but recognising something much more rotten is at play if you consider SL's inconsistency, invisibility and slightly sinister priorities in his decision making over the past 7 years.

The ineptness of now falling out with and losing an experienced CEO and then an experienced manager within five weeks is just the bottom of the barrel. 

[tin]

8 minutes ago, Olé said:

Again, I could post this in any number of threads at the moment as it's not specific to Rennie or Euell, but I have absolutely no idea what Lansdown wants anymore. 

If he desperately wanted a head coach in a structure that offers stability and succession surely having so many qualified people around Pearson including a highly rated coach like Euell is the perfect platform for that. It's not clear if Euell was also binned off or was offered a role and stuck two fingers up out of loyalty to Pearson (would make some sense), but either way for Lansdown to clearly want a change but preside over such ham-fisted mismanagement of the transition to whatever it is he actually wants, beggars belief.

You can't have stability and succession if you take such clumsy, classless and pre-meditated decisions, and you won't develop good young coaches if you keep torpedoing the first sign of a culture of leadership from the top of your footballing staff that is successfully relaying priceless experience into your leaders of the future (I would include King in that too). Put together with statements about how he wants to run the club, Lansdown no longer strikes me as a rational owner with any agenda besides for his own indulgence.

As such, it's not simply the case (as I've seen written elsewhere) of fans starting to ask questions. It's far far beyond that. For me it's now urgent that the club is sold and we move on from his fantasy and delusion before the next 3 year reset, and sensible fans must do everything in their power to agitate for this. This isn't simply out of deference to NP, but recognising something much more rotten is at play if you consider SL's inconsistency, invisibility and slightly sinister priorities in his decision making over the past 7 years.

The ineptness of now falling out with and losing an experienced CEO and then an experienced manager within five weeks is just the bottom of the barrel. 

Absolutely excellent post, @Olé. Agree with all of that and it’s vital we try and force change of ownership. The lies, the lack of communication, the contempt with how they treat us, the lack of a clear strategy. 

It’s easy (and lazy) to talk about wanting to be a PL club, but in order to make that happen a lot of things need to be in place, and they go way beyond the stadium and training ground. The only thing about the ridiculously named HPC was Rennie. 

Everything they do off the pitch couldn’t be further from PL. That’s down to the Lansdowns and the decisions they’ve made. There’s two decades of evidence and things will only get worse with JL’s influence. 

People often talk about apathy at Bristol City. Maybe that’s why the Lansdowns have had it easy for two decades. “It’s my club and I’ll do what I want”. It’s time to remind them it’s our club and their time is up. 

[Merrick's Marvels]

1 hour ago, Olé said:

you won't develop good young coaches if you keep torpedoing the first sign of a culture of leadership from the top of your footballing staff that is successfully relaying priceless experience into your leaders of the future (I would include King in that too).

This is the bit that gets my goat more than anything.

If you're running a club with such an emphasis on bringing kids through into the 1st team - along with buying lower league players unproven at Champ level but with potential - what you need is someone expert at culture-building, man management, leadership, someone with cast iron authority but also empathy.  

This was Pearson's greatest strength. And he was developing some of his Coaches in the same way, too.

Andi Weimann's Twitter confirms it - "I have learned so much from working with you... not only as a player but as a person and a leader". How many players said that when previous Lansdown appointments departed??? Oh yeah - none. 

And we've binned him off. I despair. Gary Rowett renowned for developing young players, is he?  Your Millwall mates must be laughing.        

Yes, our home form could be better. Yes, Pearson's a grouchy so-and-so. But not to give him a fair crack of the whip - the same time and backing as other managers that have been indulged here -  stinks to high heaven. 

I see S82 are fundraising for new banners - they won't be short of suggestions for what to write on 'em!  

Edited October 30, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Who he?

Strength and Conditioning chap.  The guy who leads the warm-up on every Robins Uncut video, booming voice.  Often photographed with Rennie and Matt Parsons delivering food parcels.

3 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

This is the bit that gets my goat more than anything.

If you're running a club with such an emphasis on bringing kids through into the 1st team - along with buying lower league players unproven at Cham level but with potential - what you need is someone expert at culture-setting, man management, leadership, someone with cast iron authority but also empathy.  

This was Pearson's greatest strength. 

And we've binned him off. I despair. 

Gary Rowett renowned for developing young players, is he?         

Yes, our home form could be better. Yes, Pearson's a grouchy so-and-so. But not to give him a fair crack of the whip - the same time and backing as other managers that have been indulged here -  stinks to high heaven. 

I see S82 are fundraising for new banners - they won't be short of suggestions for what to write on 'em!  

I think he’s done fine in this respect at Millwall:

• Danny McNamara - homegrown 
• Billy Mitchell - homegrown
• Romain Esse - homegrown
• Aidamo Emakhu - Shamrock but young
• Tyler Burey - homegrown
• Ben Thompson - homegrown

Don’t get me wrong it’s not Nige levels, but it’s reasonable.  Has used young player loan market ok too.  Dan Ballard for example from Arsenal, Cresswell from Leeds etc.

 

[Merrick's Marvels]

3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Strength and Conditioning chap.  The guy who leads the warm-up on every Robins Uncut video, booming voice.  Often photographed with Rennie and Matt Parsons delivering food parcels.

I think he’s done fine in this respect at Millwall:

• Danny McNamara - homegrown 
• Billy Mitchell - homegrown
• Romain Esse - homegrown
• Aidamo Emakhu - Shamrock but young
• Tyler Burey - homegrown
• Ben Thompson - homegrown

Don’t get me wrong it’s not Nige levels, but it’s reasonable.  Has used young player loan market ok too.  Dan Ballard for example from Arsenal, Cresswell from Leeds etc.

 

Then it's going to be him!

Good god almighty.

[Davefevs]

8 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Then it's going to be him!

Good god almighty.

I’ve heard a few things that it’s gonna be Rowett, but then I’m surprised the bookies don’t have him odds-on by now.  So who knows?

[Silvio Dante]

Now said his goodbyes on Twitter. 

 

[cidercity1987]

These guys should have been the bedrock of our club for 10 years. Been there , done it, not looking for a forward step to a bigger club , just to enjoy life/work and drag this club up.

I'm still in shock

[Baldyman]

So if our physio has gone , who have we got treating the injured players at the moment ? Presumably Scotty is sorting them all out with a wet sponge and a couple of cans of Natch ??? 

[italian dave]

3 minutes ago, Baldyman said:

So if our physio has gone , who have we got treating the injured players at the moment ? Presumably Scotty is sorting them all out with a wet sponge and a couple of cans of Natch ??? 

We seemed to get fewer injuries when that was the way it was sorted out

[Lrrr]

5 minutes ago, Baldyman said:

So if our physio has gone , who have we got treating the injured players at the moment ? Presumably Scotty is sorting them all out with a wet sponge and a couple of cans of Natch ??? 

Still have Proctor around who is lead physio and other physios, Rennie was head of medical performance so physio department was working under his remit but hasn’t been affected numbers wise by him departing 

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

Still have Proctor around who is lead physio and other physios, Rennie was head of medical performance so physio department was working under his remit but hasn’t been affected numbers wise by him departing 

Orme still around too to take the sessions.  Holt, Bonsu etc still around too.

[cheese]

11 minutes ago, Baldyman said:

So if our physio has gone , who have we got treating the injured players at the moment ? Presumably Scotty is sorting them all out with a wet sponge and a couple of cans of Natch ??? 

Can't be any worse than what they have been doing!  And anyway, always worked for me when I played footie.  A fag at half-time also helped a second half boost!

[Red-Robbo]

Was Rennie sacked or did he walk over the removal of Pearson? 

It seems bizarre to remove the head of medical performance,  unless you are somehow blaming him for the injury list.

Are our injries worse than other Championship clubs at this stage if the season? Or does it just seem more of an issue due to the slenderness of the senior squad?

[chinapig]

18 minutes ago, Baldyman said:

So if our physio has gone , who have we got treating the injured players at the moment ? Presumably Scotty is sorting them all out with a wet sponge and a couple of cans of Natch ??? 

Since Tinnion seems to think he knows more about fitness, conditioning and injuries perhaps he will add the job to his portfolio?

Given he is calling all the shots he might as well be head coach as well.

[GrahamC]

21 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Was Rennie sacked or did he walk over the removal of Pearson? 

It seems bizarre to remove the head of medical performance,  unless you are somehow blaming him for the injury list.

Are our injries worse than other Championship clubs at this stage if the season? Or does it just seem more of an issue due to the slenderness of the senior squad?

Sacked, same as Euell.

[Davefevs]

19 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Was Rennie sacked or did he walk over the removal of Pearson? 

It seems bizarre to remove the head of medical performance,  unless you are somehow blaming him for the injury list.

Are our injries worse than other Championship clubs at this stage if the season? Or does it just seem more of an issue due to the slenderness of the senior squad?

If you’ve seen the kinds of alleged ITK stuff I’ve read this week, you’ll have seen multiple stories, ranging from as you suggest that he walked over Pearson, to the opposite that Pearson walked over him, and other theories in between.

Hence my thoughts that stuff is being purposely put out there.

[Red-Robbo]

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

If you’ve seen the kinds of alleged ITK stuff I’ve read this week, you’ll have seen multiple stories, ranging from as you suggest that he walked over Pearson, to the opposite that Pearson walked over him, and other theories in between.

Hence my thoughts that stuff is being purposely put out there.

Blimey. 

It certainly seems, from the way Tinnion made reference to the situation,  that the club are somehow blaming medical staff and coaches for the injuries we have acrued recently.

Without me having to do anything as boring as research this, do you know how we compare to other clubs in the length of our sick list?

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Blimey. 

It certainly seems, from the way Tinnion made reference to the situation,  that the club are somehow blaming medical staff and coaches for the injuries we have acrued recently.

Without me having to do anything as boring as research this, do you know how we compare to other clubs in the length of our sick list?

I don’t I’m afraid.

I really started tracing ours last season, mainly because a lot of non-facts get put out, but also for my own purposes too.  Broken down by injury type and matches missed.

I think the biggest problem is injuries expose a small squad.  I’d guess that most clubs have circa 3-6 out most of the time.

you can see above that we’ve run between 4-6 until Coventry.  Circled numbers are where we’ve also had players missing through suspension (Dickie) or ineligibility (TGH).

If you take the fact that two players (RA and AB) have ACLs, and have dine since last season, you can decide to omit them from the totals or not.  But, my view is whether you do that or not, in RA’s situation and our budget, you can’t go out and recruit another permanent signing.  Ignore the budget and you’d probably think a 6 month loan would’ve been useful.  That’s the pros and cons I guess of a small budget.

I’d love to track how they occurred, e.g. in game, in training, other and weather contact or strain…but we only get limited info.  Sometimes in say the case of HWR we only get to find out when he’s had an op, even if I’ve heard otherwise, so I try to stick to what the club tell us so I don’t get subjective.

 

[Merrick's Marvels]

1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said:

These guys should have been the bedrock of our club for 10 years. Been there , done it, not looking for a forward step to a bigger club , just to enjoy life/work and drag this club up.

Absofeckinlutely. 

[Port Said Red]

1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

Was Rennie sacked or did he walk over the removal of Pearson? 

It seems bizarre to remove the head of medical performance,  unless you are somehow blaming him for the injury list.

Are our injries worse than other Championship clubs at this stage if the season? Or does it just seem more of an issue due to the slenderness of the senior squad?

I don't think anyone was blaming him for the initial injuries in most cases, but from what I can gather he had quite rigid timescales on when players should be doing things in recovery. I know he is well considered in his field but players need to have confidence in that schedule and the person behind it, and if, as has happened to a few players, injuries recur or other injuries appear because they feel they have been rushed back, that confidence can be eroded. 

Additionally, as some players recovery schedules have been changed already, it suggests that there were mixed messages amongst the medical team, and again the players need to believe that everyone agrees they are on the right schedule to have confidence in their recovery. At the end of the day, the club might want them now, but players have a whole career to think about.

[MarcusX]

1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

Was Rennie sacked or did he walk over the removal of Pearson? 

It seems bizarre to remove the head of medical performance,  unless you are somehow blaming him for the injury list.

Are our injries worse than other Championship clubs at this stage if the season? Or does it just seem more of an issue due to the slenderness of the senior squad?

Well @Bcfcshags posted to say they weren't happy about how players were being treated. Too long off over the international break and then an intense session on their return caused injuries

Nige said all but 1 were impact injuries

So someone is lying.

Why isn't there a thread on the fact that several players appear to have made miraculous recoveries - or was that always likely this weekend?

[JP Hampton]

37 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I don't think anyone was blaming him for the initial injuries in most cases, but from what I can gather he had quite rigid timescales on when players should be doing things in recovery. I know he is well considered in his field but players need to have confidence in that schedule and the person behind it, and if, as has happened to a few players, injuries recur or other injuries appear because they feel they have been rushed back, that confidence can be eroded. 

Additionally, as some players recovery schedules have been changed already, it suggests that there were mixed messages amongst the medical team, and again the players need to believe that everyone agrees they are on the right schedule to have confidence in their recovery. At the end of the day, the club might want them now, but players have a whole career to think about.

That story came from someone so someone is pointing the finger of blame tbf.
 Is there any proof players were rushed back? What evidence is there that that ever happened? Or that any player felt that

If Rennie had rigid time scales, most health professionals practice, is evidence based and with his vast experience that was no doubt backed up by that and not by some rigidity from self importance. 

Edited November 2, 2023 by JP Hampton

[Davefevs]

Just now, MarcusX said:

Why isn't there a thread on the fact that several players appear to have made miraculous recoveries - or was that always likely this weekend?

There have been several posts in different threads.  The timescales for Tanner, Naismith and Vyner were all roughly around last week to next week.

[JP Hampton]

5 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Well @Bcfcshags posted to say they weren't happy about how players were being treated. Too long off over the international break and then an intense session on their return caused injuries

Nige said all but 1 were impact injuries

So someone is lying.

Why isn't there a thread on the fact that several players appear to have made miraculous recoveries - or was that always likely this weekend?

As has been said before, this idea that players were sent off on rest,without a properly tailored management is ridiculous. 
 

With professional athletes it’s perfectly standard practice after 3 months training, to have a week off, but you still be following some lower impact type training to keep the body in good condition. They’d have then worked up to intense training. Give them some credit. 

Edited November 2, 2023 by JP Hampton

[petehinton]

5 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Well @Bcfcshags posted to say they weren't happy about how players were being treated. Too long off over the international break and then an intense session on their return caused injuries

Nige said all but 1 were impact injuries

So someone is lying.

Why isn't there a thread on the fact that several players appear to have made miraculous recoveries - or was that always likely this weekend?

Rennie has a PHD in sport science, and had 20 years in the same role at a club much bigger than us, to huge success.  

I think I’d trust whatever he’d recommend, over what a player/Tinnion/anyone far less qualified to comment, tbh. 

[GrahamC]

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

There have been several posts in different threads.  The timescales for Tanner, Naismith and Vyner were all roughly around last week to next week.

Exactly what I was about to say.

Benarous too, back from hamstring issues of late.

None of this is exactly “miraculous” though the prominence of them in the training video is certainly interesting from a PR perspective.

[Red-Robbo]

10 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Well @Bcfcshags posted to say they weren't happy about how players were being treated. Too long off over the international break and then an intense session on their return caused injuries

Nige said all but 1 were impact injuries

So someone is lying.

Why isn't there a thread on the fact that several players appear to have made miraculous recoveries - or was that always likely this weekend?

 

Impact injuries will always happen in football, but their severity and recoverability can be improved by conditioning and fitness, as well as the way they are treated both on pitch and after games. And, to a degree, coaches can also try to get players to play in ways that minimise the likelihood of them being seriously hurt. 

I certainly don't have enough knowledge to say Dr Rennie and his team were not doing this, and I very much doubt Brian Tinnion or Jon Lansdown do either.  It seems a very strange call. 

[Selred]

3 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

None of this is exactly “miraculous” though the prominence of them in the training video is certainly interesting from a PR perspective.

We have a PR team? Why have they only started this week?

[Merrick's Marvels]

16 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Well @Bcfcshags posted to say they weren't happy about how players were being treated. Too long off over the international break and then an intense session on their return caused injuries

Nige said all but 1 were impact injuries

So someone is lying.

Why isn't there a thread on the fact that several players appear to have made miraculous recoveries - or was that always likely this weekend?

There's no conspiracy theory to be had here and there's no reason to believe anything other than virtually all the players were 100% behind Pearson and his staff. 

[Ashtongreight]

16 minutes ago, JP Hampton said:

That story came from someone so someone is pointing the finger of blame tbf.
 Is there any proof players were rushed back? What evidence is there that that ever happened? Or that any player felt that

If Rennie had rigid time scales, most health professionals practice, is evidence based and with his vast experience that was no doubt backed up by that and not by some rigidity from self importance. 

I can’t think of any players coming back early and therefore causing reoccurring injury since he’s been here, my impression is the opposite, players return dates mostly seem to be later than first reported. Tommy seems the exception to the rule, but hasn’t had reoccurring injuries, just young and a fast healer. 

[Northern Red]

15 minutes ago, Ashtongreight said:

I can’t think of any players coming back early and therefore causing reoccurring injury since he’s been here, my impression is the opposite, players return dates mostly seem to be later than first reported. Tommy seems the exception to the rule, but hasn’t had reoccurring injuries, just young and a fast healer. 

Yes, if anything I think they've tended to err on the side of caution, Nige would regularly talk about wanting players to recover fully now to prevent reoccurences and feel the benefit lfurther down the line, even if that meant coming back a week or two later than might be expected.

[W-S-M Seagull]

"The staff and players have embraced change"

Another barbed comment? 

[RedRock]

I couldn't understand the only one player non-impact injury comment. Wasn't Tommy a hamstring coming on late in a game? If so, Mccorrie's was an impact? Benarous too? We also 'broke' Scott before he left.

I have no idea what went or is going on...but to blame the fact that 50% of the squad is injured on 'bad luck' is just ducking a serious issue(s) imo.

[MarcusX]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

There have been several posts in different threads.  The timescales for Tanner, Naismith and Vyner were all roughly around last week to next week.

Thanks, it's hard to keep up on all the various threads - often many pages have been added between visits  I just thought because the comment came from someone who's usually well informed, it may have drew it's own thread.

2 hours ago, JP Hampton said:

As has been said before, this idea that players were sent off on rest,without a properly tailored management is ridiculous. 
 

With professional athletes it’s perfectly standard practice after 3 months training, to have a week off, but you still be following some lower impact type training to keep the body in good condition. They’d have then worked up to intense training. Give them some credit. 

I'd agree, I was certainly hinting that the story was made up (though not knocking the poster, I believe he was likely told that)

2 hours ago, petehinton said:

Rennie has a PHD in sport science, and had 20 years in the same role at a club much bigger than us, to huge success.  

I think I’d trust whatever he’d recommend, over what a player/Tinnion/anyone far less qualified to comment, tbh. 

I agree, think my position was misunderstood.

1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

There's no conspiracy theory to be had here and there's no reason to believe anything other than virtually all the players were 100% behind Pearson and his staff. 

As above, fully agree. I wasn't suggesting a conspiracy, I was suggesting the clubs story was wrong.

As someone else said the focus on the returning players did seem quite delibarate in the videos

[Son of Fred]

On 30/10/2023 at 11:58, Merrick's Marvels said:

This is the bit that gets my goat more than anything.

If you're running a club with such an emphasis on bringing kids through into the 1st team - along with buying lower league players unproven at Champ level but with potential - what you need is someone expert at culture-building, man management, leadership, someone with cast iron authority but also empathy.  

This was Pearson's greatest strength. And he was developing some of his Coaches in the same way, too.

Andi Weimann's Twitter confirms it - "I have learned so much from working with you... not only as a player but as a person and a leader".

Beautifully put MM...thank you.

Gets my goat!

How fuzzy they're thinking must be 

[Son of Fred]

2 hours ago, petehinton said:

Rennie has a PHD in sport science, and had 20 years in the same role at a club much bigger than us, to huge success.  

I think I’d trust whatever he’d recommend, over what a player/Tinnion/anyone far less qualified to comment, tbh. 

Spot on-

And testiment to how much Lansdown's a sucker for a good rimming

 

[bearded_red]

‘Dave Rennie did a great job and has a great name in the game’- Curtis Fleming.

[Davefevs]

Just now, bearded_red said:

‘Dave Rennie did a great job and has a great name in the game’- Curtis Fleming.

Re-confirms the nature of how injuries happened. Talks about the international break too. 

[Davefevs]

6 minutes ago, Zuni said:

They were all sacked.

Yes….And?

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, Zuni said:

Oh apologies I thought you were suggesting some sort of "If he goes well I'm going" sort of moment.

 

No, no probs, just saying all the contradictory shit that’s come out, “I was told this”, “I was told that”…

[REDOXO]

On 30/10/2023 at 04:52, Olé said:

He and Orme (and Euell at times) were visibly also very active in the work Matt Parsons organises at away games to deliver excess food to homeless shelters - and Rennie was clearly more to the squad than just the medical guy. Again very visible in videos how much he helped build the culture with NP where staff put an arm around and take an interest in players and do so with a smile on their face.

As people with no prior affiliation to Bristol let alone our club, Pearson and Rennie bought into everything about BCFC and the area and what it means to represent us and act with class and integrity in building a positive culture. This could be posted in any one of countless threads but the contrast and juxtaposition with the total absence of class from the Lansdown family in handling this is quite jarring. 

 

Exactly! 
 

Jarring is an excellent word right now!

I can not believe crayon boy has done this, but I also don’t believe this has happened in crayola style vacuum!

SL must have sanctioned it and Tinman must have been involved! I can’t see a scenario, particularly in light of what was said about Andy King playing, where he wasn’t. 
 

Son of a bitch I am so angry!

Effing half wits!!
 

 

 

[Topper 123]

It does seem funny the day after he leaves 4 players return to field / contact training? Wonder if that’s to do with all players being scanned on Monday ? Shhh

[Port Said Red]

12 minutes ago, Topper 123 said:

It does seem funny the day after he leaves 4 players return to field / contact training? Wonder if that’s to do with all players being scanned on Monday ? Shhh

No, I was told on Friday they were all due back in training this week.

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Topper 123 said:

It does seem funny the day after he leaves 4 players return to field / contact training? Wonder if that’s to do with all players being scanned on Monday ? Shhh

It doesn’t seem funny at all.

If you listen to Nige’s press conferences and his comments and updates on their return timeframes, they are all back in the timeframes mentioned, pretty much.

[GrahamC]

So if appears the case, Vyner, Naismith, Tanner & James are all back today (apologies @1960maaan) what was the issue with him?

A one game injury crisis?

Surely he’s not being blamed for Atkinson & Benarous doing their ACLs?

King & Wells getting injured in games?

Absolute horseshit.