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Good morning ladies & Gents. 
 

I thought it would be a good time to jump back on here with all that’s going on. Plenty of speculation and plenty of comments that aren’t a million miles away from the truth. 

Saturday morning I was told if we weren’t to get anything at Cardiff he would be sacked. I was also told that Gary Rowett will be appointed but as I’m aware up untill Saturday he was the only one that’s held talks, but other agents have been sounded out.

The fall out with Pearson has been on going for a number of weeks, it was made clear for everyone to see that there wasn’t going to be a new deal on the table for him and the board started to look elsewhere.

Sunday morning was the final nail in the coffin for Nige when a meeting was held, members of board wanted him to bring or look at free agents, when NP turned round and basically told them to stick it after not having funds to bring in more players in the summer. 
 

Nige has has a great relationship with the players and is very much loved by them, I’m really disappointed as I feel he’s the only relatable person at the club, he gets it, he’s the only person we ever hear from. Gutted to say the least.

 Cheers Shags x

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3 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said:

 

Good morning ladies & Gents. 
 

I thought it would be a good time to jump back on here with all that’s going on. Plenty of speculation and plenty of comments that aren’t a million miles away from the truth. 

Saturday morning I was told if we weren’t to get anything at Cardiff he would be sacked. I was also told that Gary Rowett will be appointed but as I’m aware up untill Saturday he was the only one that’s held talks, but other agents have been sounded out.

The fall out with Pearson has been on going for a number of weeks, it was made clear for everyone to see that there wasn’t going to be a new deal on the table for him and the board started to look elsewhere.

Sunday morning was the final nail in the coffin for Nige when a meeting was held, members of board wanted him to bring or look at free agents, when NP turned round and basically told them to stick it after not having funds to bring in more players in the summer. 
 

Nige has has a great relationship with the players and is very much loved by them, I’m really disappointed as I feel he’s the only relatable person at the club, he gets it, he’s the only person we ever hear from. Gutted to say the least.

 Cheers Shags x

I have no idea who you are or what you know - but this post would have carried so much more substance if it were posted before the Cardiff game.

I already know that he's getting sacked if we didn't get anything at Cardiff..!

And the Rowett rumours have been circulating for a couple of weeks.

Interesting reference to the OOC player suggestion - I've been thinking this for weeks as the injury list has grown & grown & was thinking it must getting close to being an essential, short term, option.

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6 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

I have no idea who you are or what you know - but this post would have carried so much more substance if it were posted before the Cardiff game.

I already know that he's getting sacked if we didn't get anything at Cardiff..!

And the Rowett rumours have been circulating for a couple of weeks.

Interesting reference to the OOC player suggestion - I've been thinking this for weeks as the injury list has grown & grown & was thinking it must getting close to being an essential, short term, option.

My work was done over the summer mate, I was hesitant on coming back on but happy to share what I get told 👍🏻

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7 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said:

My work was done over the summer mate, I was hesitant on coming back on but happy to share what I get told 👍🏻

Thank you for posting , do you know if the new manager will have any funds to spend in January (I.e the nest egg)

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Welcome back Shags. In the short time I’ve been here I’ve really enjoyed your insights & hopefully for a long time to come.

NP was 💩 from a great height but moving forward I really hope it won’t be Rowett, personally of those available I would prefer Eustace or Beale. My personal choice would be Corboran but doubt that is achievable.

 

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43 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said:

 

Good morning ladies & Gents. 
 

I thought it would be a good time to jump back on here with all that’s going on. Plenty of speculation and plenty of comments that aren’t a million miles away from the truth. 

Saturday morning I was told if we weren’t to get anything at Cardiff he would be sacked. I was also told that Gary Rowett will be appointed but as I’m aware up untill Saturday he was the only one that’s held talks, but other agents have been sounded out.

The fall out with Pearson has been on going for a number of weeks, it was made clear for everyone to see that there wasn’t going to be a new deal on the table for him and the board started to look elsewhere.

Sunday morning was the final nail in the coffin for Nige when a meeting was held, members of board wanted him to bring or look at free agents, when NP turned round and basically told them to stick it after not having funds to bring in more players in the summer. 
 

Nige has has a great relationship with the players and is very much loved by them, I’m really disappointed as I feel he’s the only relatable person at the club, he gets it, he’s the only person we ever hear from. Gutted to say the least.

 Cheers Shags x

That does make it sound like Nige has played a part in the timing of the sacking, and that he wasn't guaranteed to be sacked before the Shef Wednesday game?

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5 minutes ago, mozo said:

That does make it sound like Nige has played a part in the timing of the sacking, and that he wasn't guaranteed to be sacked before the Shef Wednesday game?

Possibly, but it was a matter of when. Problem is they don’t like that Nige is outspoken. 

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11 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said:

Possibly, but it was a matter of when. Problem is they don’t like that Nige is outspoken. 

Aww, bless those Lansdowns. How dare Nige have opinions that aren’t shared in the boardroom (or should I say around the family dining table).

Welcome back, @Bcfcshags

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Maybe it's just me being negative, but sleeping on it, i'd be concerned that some of the more qualified managers on the available list simply won't take the job if offered anyway.

We'll see - but if they read the clubs statement after sacking Nige (TOP 6?!) and look at the tools they'd have available....we've traditionally failed to get top, upcoming managers in anyway under SL....for some reason - I fear this trend will continue.

Hope to be wrong. Rowett, doesn't particularly inspire me...but I actually fear for worse TBH.

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53 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said:

 

Good morning ladies & Gents. 
 

I thought it would be a good time to jump back on here with all that’s going on. Plenty of speculation and plenty of comments that aren’t a million miles away from the truth. 

Saturday morning I was told if we weren’t to get anything at Cardiff he would be sacked. I was also told that Gary Rowett will be appointed but as I’m aware up untill Saturday he was the only one that’s held talks, but other agents have been sounded out.

The fall out with Pearson has been on going for a number of weeks, it was made clear for everyone to see that there wasn’t going to be a new deal on the table for him and the board started to look elsewhere.

Sunday morning was the final nail in the coffin for Nige when a meeting was held, members of board wanted him to bring or look at free agents, when NP turned round and basically told them to stick it after not having funds to bring in more players in the summer. 
 

Nige has has a great relationship with the players and is very much loved by them, I’m really disappointed as I feel he’s the only relatable person at the club, he gets it, he’s the only person we ever hear from. Gutted to say the least.

 Cheers Shags x

A lot of rumours, hearsay, guess work going on, most of which is there or thereabouts. Good to hear something from a reliable source giving a bit of substance to everything.

Still as angry about this today as I was when the news broke yesterday. NP has been well and truly shat on by the board.

Only question from me is there have been a comment or two about Tinnion and his part in all this. Seems harsh to me that fingers are pointed in his direction, unless you know otherwise?

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20 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said:

Possibly, but it was a matter of when. Problem is they don’t like that Nige is outspoken. 

Where as almost every fan wants more transparency , another clear case of the board not understanding the fans but then asking we get behind them. They can **** right off at this point. 

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Just now, W-S-M Seagull said:

I'd 100 million percent have preferred us to field a team of academy goalkeepers rather than signing free agents after Nige was refused funds in the summer. 

What sort of bs is that? Waste more money on more crap players because the board ****** up in the summer when it was absolutely obvious to all of us that we needed 2-3 more bodies? 

I back Pearson 100% on his stance with this. 

Sums us up. Willing to undo all the hard work Nige had done installing a proper culture at the club.

Magically able to find some money to throw at out of contract, ageing players. Sounds familiar 🤦‍♂️

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1 hour ago, Bcfcshags said:

 

Good morning ladies & Gents. 
 

I thought it would be a good time to jump back on here with all that’s going on. Plenty of speculation and plenty of comments that aren’t a million miles away from the truth. 

Saturday morning I was told if we weren’t to get anything at Cardiff he would be sacked. I was also told that Gary Rowett will be appointed but as I’m aware up untill Saturday he was the only one that’s held talks, but other agents have been sounded out.

The fall out with Pearson has been on going for a number of weeks, it was made clear for everyone to see that there wasn’t going to be a new deal on the table for him and the board started to look elsewhere.

Sunday morning was the final nail in the coffin for Nige when a meeting was held, members of board wanted him to bring or look at free agents, when NP turned round and basically told them to stick it after not having funds to bring in more players in the summer. 
 

Nige has has a great relationship with the players and is very much loved by them, I’m really disappointed as I feel he’s the only relatable person at the club, he gets it, he’s the only person we ever hear from. Gutted to say the least.

 Cheers Shags x

Welcome back....👋

Cheers for the update.

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1 hour ago, Bcfcshags said:

members of board

So Jon Lansdown and/or Gavin Marshall. It's frustrating that it's taken this to highlight to people how terrible the governance and board make up is.

The board (Jon and Gavin) have constructed a crisis when no crisis was needed. What could have been a well managed transition into a new era has become a debacle, and that's ridiculous, and that's on them.

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12 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

Maybe it's just me being negative, but sleeping on it, i'd be concerned that some of the more qualified managers on the available list simply won't take the job if offered anyway.

We'll see - but if they read the clubs statement after sacking Nige (TOP 6?!) and look at the tools they'd have available....we've traditionally failed to get top, upcoming managers in anyway under SL....for some reason - I fear this trend will continue.

Hope to be wrong. Rowett, doesn't particularly inspire me...but I actually fear for worse TBH.

This is my thinking too. There are plenty of available managers with experience at this level, and their agents might look at City as a great option for their clients, but as soon as they've had the chat with the 'board' and realise the limitations they'd have to deal with, they might think better of it.

The only unlikely alternative is that the board were squirreling the Scott money for the inevitable new manager.... (hey, I said unlikely!)

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5 minutes ago, mozo said:

This is my thinking too. There are plenty of available managers with experience at this level, and their agents might look at City as a great option for their clients, but as soon as they've had the chat with the 'board' and realise the limitations they'd have to deal with, they might think better of it.

The only unlikely alternative is that the board were squirreling the Scott money for the inevitable new manager.... (hey, I said unlikely!)

It wouldn't be the first time, allegedly.

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25 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

Maybe it's just me being negative, but sleeping on it, i'd be concerned that some of the more qualified managers on the available list simply won't take the job if offered anyway.

We'll see - but if they read the clubs statement after sacking Nige (TOP 6?!) and look at the tools they'd have available....we've traditionally failed to get top, upcoming managers in anyway under SL....for some reason - I fear this trend will continue.

Hope to be wrong. Rowett, doesn't particularly inspire me...but I actually fear for worse TBH.

Was going to post similar and ask the question how attractive are we to a new manager. Maxed out our wage budget despite a squad made up of academy players. Need to sell a £25million player every summer for the ‘nest egg’ all whilst aiming to emulate Luton, Brentford, Swansea , Reading anybody else I’ve missed? When we sacked Johnson we had our choice and were probably relatively appealing - this is a mess and if we get this wrong with the sense of negativity within the fan base and also the dressing room it could be a very costly mistake for our owner / chairman 

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We will have loads of people interested, it's a good job and the winner will walk into a 3 year contract on good money. Many will put up with the peripheral shite with the get out, they can claim interference . 
These will not be the ones we particularly want.
Some may be put off when they are told what has gone on and what will be involved > Having players chosen for them ? having tactics questioned by someone without the foggiest clue in football ? 
These will more principled and stronger types, the ones we might want but Lansdown can't handle.

IMO it comes down to the fact that with all his wealth, his success & his 'standing in the community' , he must be a very fragile person. He doesn't like people not bowing to his way, or that's how it seems. We have spent 2 years getting back on an even keel after his recklessness go us there. Nige did a great job under incredible pressure and financhal constraints , only to be cut off at the knees the first chance SL got. 

The next man in will encounter an interesting situation (specially if its Rowett it seems) , it could be hostile and unforgiving. They could win games and still not get credit , some may not like that but I don't see it changing unless we somehow have an amazing season. Bringing in sales of about £35M and offering OOC cover ain't gonna bring that.

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27 minutes ago, mozo said:

This is my thinking too. There are plenty of available managers with experience at this level, and their agents might look at City as a great option for their clients, but as soon as they've had the chat with the 'board' and realise the limitations they'd have to deal with, they might think better of it.

The only unlikely alternative is that the board were squirreling the Scott money for the inevitable new manager.... (hey, I said unlikely!)

Yeah I don't want to be too negative because we are, or at least very much should be, an exciting prospect for a new manager. The potential is there.

But for me, if I was a Dean Smith, Chris Wilder or John Eustace etc, i'd be left with a lot of questions about the job - the fact the owners are publicly trying to sell the club, the manner of NP's sacking, the available funds, will they have to continue to sell their best players, the current state of the squad etc etc. The management structure/board of the club would have any top coach concerned IMO - are the right people in the right places to enable them to do their job successfully?

Irony is for all the development we've seemingly made as a club, now we're looking again for a new head coach, I feel like, and SL will find out again, we're still in a position where the best calibre managers at our level would rather stay on gardening leave and hold out for a 'better offer'.  

Again, I hope i'm wrong...

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If it's true that ' members of the board' wanted free agents brought in, and presented a list, then I'm gob smacked. 

What do members of the board know about football more than NP?

The audacity to think you can go to NP and suggest free agents...like they know more than him.

If NP wanted any free agents, he would have known who was available and asked for them...not the other way round. 🤷🤦

Perhaps Tinnion was involved in this ' presentation' ?

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1 hour ago, Phil White said:

Welcome back Shags. In the short time I’ve been here I’ve really enjoyed your insights & hopefully for a long time to come.

NP was 💩 from a great height but moving forward I really hope it won’t be Rowett, personally of those available I would prefer Eustace or Beale. My personal choice would be Corboran but doubt that is achievable.

 

Rowett really is the cherry on the turd 💩🍒

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1 minute ago, spudski said:

If it's true that ' members of the board' wanted free agents brought in, and presented a list, then I'm gob smacked. 

What do members of the board know about football more than NP?

The audacity to think you can go to NP and suggest free agents...like they know more than him.

If NP wanted any free agents, he would have known who was available and asked for them...not the other way round. 🤷🤦

Perhaps Tinnion was involved in this ' presentation' ?

Perhaps.......I doubt he was sat at home on his arse doing nothing yesterday.

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2 minutes ago, spudski said:

If it's true that ' members of the board' wanted free agents brought in, and presented a list, then I'm gob smacked. 

What do members of the board know about football more than NP?

The audacity to think you can go to NP and suggest free agents...like they know more than him.

If NP wanted any free agents, he would have known who was available and asked for them...not the other way round. 🤷🤦

Perhaps Tinnion was involved in this ' presentation' ?

Seems he’s been very much involved in all of it! 

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12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Managers out of work want to be in work.

Rowett is the name I keep hearing.

He seems to be in pole position, the question is why though?

Over 500 games as a manager, no promotions, won nothing. His CV is worse than Lee Johnson's. 

All 3 of the front runners Jones, Rowett, Eustace, have a worse CV than Nige. Crazy isn't it.

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18 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Managers out of work want to be in work.

Rowett is the name I keep hearing.

Managers out of work are out of work for a reason. 

Personally I'd be trying to poach an in work manager from L1. More expensive, but I'd say it has a better chance of success.

Whether or not Pearson should have had his contract extended - i's ridiculous that the board (of two people, I'll never stop saying that) have managed to create a crisis off the back of progressively climbing the table and banking £35m in a calendar year.

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2 minutes ago, spudski said:

If it's true that ' members of the board' wanted free agents brought in, and presented a list, then I'm gob smacked. 

What do members of the board know about football more than NP?

The audacity to think you can go to NP and suggest free agents...like they know more than him.

If NP wanted any free agents, he would have known who was available and asked for them...not the other way round. 🤷🤦

Perhaps Tinnion was involved in this ' presentation' ?

I thought that there was a problem with the total wage bill and that would mean that the bean counters were willing to increase this to allow for free agents. They would need a few weeks to get up to speed, by which time the regular injured players may have recovered and we would be then able to recruit permanent players in the January window. None of this seems to make much sense apart from Nigel's response.

 

5 minutes ago, spudski said:

If it's true that ' members of the board' wanted free agents brought in, and presented a list, then I'm gob smacked. 

What do members of the board know about football more than NP?

The audacity to think you can go to NP and suggest free agents...like they know more than him.

If NP wanted any free agents, he would have known who was available and asked for them...not the other way round. 🤷🤦

Perhaps Tinnion was involved in this ' presentation' ?

 

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1 minute ago, CodeRed said:

He seems to be in pole position, the question is why though?

Over 500 games as a manager, no promotions, won nothing. His CV is worse than Lee Johnson's. 

All 3 of the front runners Jones, Rowett, Eustace, have a worse CV than Nige. Crazy isn't it.

I could stomach Eustace given we have to accept Nige is gone now. Rowett is as uninspiring as it gets and if they appoint Jones then I seriously consider whether it's worth giving any more time to the club whilst the current circus are running it. I will pretty pissed off if that odious dwarf is given the privilege of attending an interview let alone appointed.

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10 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

He’ll probably do as they say. Nothing more to it than that.

Oh indeed, they just want some sort of patsy. 

But in the context of a club that wants to push young players through as fast as possible (so they can be flogged for profit), whilst also buying a high percentage of unproven lower league players with potential (so they can be flogged for profit), one of the most important parts of the job is surely man-management skills, the ability to build a culture that allows talent to bloom - Pearson is brilliant at this. 

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25 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Managers out of work want to be in work.

Rowett is the name I keep hearing.

Quite. There will only be a limited number (who think they will imminently have better offers) who wound say no. It always has been and always will be a market where there are numerous candidates for a small number of positions, regardless of owners. Or else Reading, for example, wouldn’t have a manager thus season!

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28 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

It would figure;

experience in the Championship working on a budget and no real danger of getting promoted. 
Go get him Stevie boy. 

Just pointing out that Rowetts net spend over the last 16months was £9m out the door and nothing back in.

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6 minutes ago, steveybadger said:

Quite. There will only be a limited number (who think they will imminently have better offers) who wound say no. It always has been and always will be a market where there are numerous candidates for a small number of positions, regardless of owners. Or else Reading, for example, wouldn’t have a manager thus season!

Yes, I'm sure they'll have had at least 100* emails, and calls from people wanting the job. No doubt SL's ego is off the scale this morning as he reads all the big names from the past crawling out of the woodwork desperate to work for him.

 

(*Ok 95 of them are from Ian Gay 😀)

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18 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Managers out of work want to be in work.

Rowett is the name I keep hearing.

Mate, I would mainly feel relief if we got someone experienced like Rowett. My fear is we end up with Robbie Fowler or the Guernsey assistant manager.

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25 minutes ago, spudski said:

If it's true that ' members of the board' wanted free agents brought in, and presented a list, then I'm gob smacked. 

What do members of the board know about football more than NP?

The audacity to think you can go to NP and suggest free agents...like they know more than him.

If NP wanted any free agents, he would have known who was available and asked for them...not the other way round. 🤷🤦

Perhaps Tinnion was involved in this ' presentation' ?

I’m told that Tinnion was up at the training ground yesterday watching the academy so it’s very possible he was present. 

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44 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

It would figure;

experience in the Championship working on a budget and no real danger of getting promoted. 
Go get him Stevie boy. 

 

This isn’t a pro-Rowett post, but I should point out he did get Derby in the play-offs and was on the verge of doing so with Birmingham City - before being removed in favour of the disastrous Zola.  The only place he totally flopped at was Stoke.

As an appointment it'd be a bit "meh" but we'd have to wait and see what he does here. 

His CV is certainly not a patch on the man he'd be replacing. 

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32 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

He seems to be in pole position, the question is why though?

Over 500 games as a manager, no promotions, won nothing. His CV is worse than Lee Johnson's. 

All 3 of the front runners Jones, Rowett, Eustace, have a worse CV than Nige. Crazy isn't it.

All perfectly normal on Planet Lansdown 

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2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

This isn’t a pro-Rowett post, but I should point out he did get Derby in the play-offs and was on the verge of doing so with Birmingham City - before being removed in favour of the disastrous Zola.  The only place he totally flopped at was Stoke.

As an appointment it'd be a bit "meh" but we'd have to wait and see what he does here. 

His CV is certainly not a patch on the man he'd be replacing. 

You have a point -

Stoke would be a very easy place to suffer a flopp

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34 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

He seems to be in pole position, the question is why though?

Over 500 games as a manager, no promotions, won nothing. His CV is worse than Lee Johnson's. 

All 3 of the front runners Jones, Rowett, Eustace, have a worse CV than Nige. Crazy isn't it.

Although can extend it more widely, and ask why in the modern way relative unknowns or those who speak well but with nothing of substance ie Russell Martin, or fancy old Scott Parker get jobs that they do ahead of people like NP. Seems to be a sign of the times.

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40 minutes ago, spudski said:

If it's true that ' members of the board' wanted free agents brought in, and presented a list, then I'm gob smacked. 

What do members of the board know about football more than NP?

The audacity to think you can go to NP and suggest free agents...like they know more than him.

If NP wanted any free agents, he would have known who was available and asked for them...not the other way round. 🤷🤦

Perhaps Tinnion was involved in this ' presentation' ?

Yes he is 

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2 hours ago, Ziderarmy said:

What’s classless is talking to other managers / agents whilst we had a manager doing a bloody good job with his hands tied behind his back. 

Disgusting behaviour really. 

Yes. 

This brings my sheer disdain for the two clowns even higher. 

That reeks of backstabby unprofessionalism. 

And to think Rowett is an improvement over Pearson? Utter braindead *******

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4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

This isn’t a pro-Rowett post, but I should point out he did get Derby in the play-offs and was on the verge of doing so with Birmingham City - before being removed in favour of the disastrous Zola.  The only place he totally flopped at was Stoke.

As an appointment it'd be a bit "meh" but we'd have to wait and see what he does here. 

His CV is certainly not a patch on the man he'd be replacing. 

Him, along with Eustace, scream to me that they’re good options because they’re available and free, nkt because they’re what we want and are the best fit. 
 

Would we be trying hard for either if they were still in jobs and we had to pay compensations? I’d be amazed. 

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2 hours ago, Bcfcshags said:

Possibly, but it was a matter of when. Problem is they don’t like that Nige is outspoken. 

Well. If our two precious little clowns cant have anybody in the club speaking out of turn. I think we all need to be more outspoken....

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