As the dust settles…

[Gert Mare]

I’m still pretty disillusioned by the decision to get rid of Nigel Pearson, even having had 24 hours to let it sink in.

This could turn out to be either a master stroke or another complete balls up which sets us back. I guess time will tell?

We have to get behind the new manager and the team, but right now I’m very concerned about the custodians of the club.

Whilst I appreciate the money that has been invested I feel a disconnection that only appears to be growing.

I’m beginning to lose interest and faith is shot to bits right now.

I’m going to see how it goes over the next few weeks and months, but I do know that if we go backwards again following this latest decision then I’m done with the Lansdown regime as I just can’t see us going anywhere or taking any statement that they come up with seriously. The statement about expecting promotion with the state of the current squad is just totally unrealistic.

At the moment I’m very close to calling it a day until the Lansdown’s are out of this club.

[BS3_RED]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Just wanted to share some thoughts.

This will undoubtedly be a time when old manager going / new manager coming in will see comments from posters, me included, giving our opinions and there will be debate for and against on both sides.

But…I see this as a small window of opportunity.

+++++

We have had numerous debates over our time back in the Championship from the managers - Cotts to Johnson to Holden to Pearson, to the Finances, FFP, Covid, etc.  We can all defend our opinions with facts, speculation, and just the way we see it.

However it is clear to me (at least) that we enter a period where we:

• don’t really have any manager “baggage”, no divide from posters who were fanboys of one but not the other.  It feels like a “decks cleared” time.
• no financial issues, FFP at least!  We don’t know the owners funding aspirations / restrictions though.

So we can treat the new manager on merit, although slightly hindered initially by:

• a small squad
• injuries

We will have to wait until January to see if he is allowed to recruit.  At that point we will know whether the budget was just for the old manager or not.  But we can judge new manager accordingly, ie is he hamstrung by budget or not.

Re injuries, a slight tangent, most managers come in and first thing they say is they had to get the players fit.  Well, City are one of the hardest running teams in the division, so that excuse is not valid.  Availability is different.

Ultimately the foundations have been laid.  The new manager has the opportunity to build on them.

I suggest we wait and see who we get and judge them on what they do with Bristol City.

 

I thought all along that it was a tactical decision not to fund NP in the last window. The people in charge had all ready made their decision that he was going and and such were never going to give him much to spend apart from what was absolutely necessary.

 

If the rumours today about OOC players and NP not wanting is true then it makes sense from their position to get rid now and not wait till the summer. 

 

[petehinton]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12996039/nigel-pearson-sacked-by-bristol-city-results-far-from-only-issue-behind-veteran-bosses-departure
 

the most perfect summation

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

23 minutes ago, Ian M said:

The only way Roy Keane gets appointed by SL is if he thinks Jon needs toughening up. Roy would chin Jon on day 1!

He'd have to find him first .

[CliftonCliff]

1 hour ago, Countryfile said:

Has Rowett worked under a DOF?
 

My money is on Tinnion being appointed DOF, the new Head Coach reporting to him.

We already have the non playing side covered off with the recent changes in responsibilities, bring the football side into line and hey presto the Lansdowns regain control.

The whole NP sacking is about control, with his personality, knowledge and determination NP had taken control away from SL and JL, they want that back.

Lot of truth in that last point. The irony is that they correctly appointed someone of experience with a strong personality to rescue them from a total mess of their own making, and to change the whole culture of the club to something less glaringly dysfunctional.  They then sack him when he does those things so competently, and becomes, in their conspicuous absence, the visible face of BCFC, because they are then resentful that he’s shouldered a role and responsibility that they’ve abdicated from and consequently feel threatened by him.
 

Pathetic, really, isn’t it ?

[Red]

Settles? Only just going to star!

 

In a statement, Jon Lansdown indicates the decision has been based on results, with City 15th in the Championship and having won two of their last seven games but that has been against the backdrop of Pearson being under-resourced in terms of his squad options.

[Northern Red]

16 minutes ago, petehinton said:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12996039/nigel-pearson-sacked-by-bristol-city-results-far-from-only-issue-behind-veteran-bosses-departure
 

the most perfect summation

Brilliant piece that, absolutey nails it. Do we know who wrote it?

Edited October 30, 2023 by Northern Red

[petehinton]

Just now, Northern Red said:

Brilliant piece that, absolute nails it. Do we know who wrote it?

@Ron W 

[Gillies Downs Leeds]

2 minutes ago, Zuni said:

Good

Why good? Who is going to do all of the non-coaching stuff?

[Rob k]

1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Let's be honest, it's going to be a LJ/Dean Holden type of appointment isn't it? Hence the head coach comments. 

Unfortunately it's going to be a poisoned chalice for the new head coach. The fans don't want him, the players don't want him, but we'll have to suck it up having him. 

He will always be compared to Pearson. If the board gives this guy money to spend then the talk is going to be about why wasn't Pearson given that money. 

Unfortunately for the new guy, Pearson is always going to be the elephant in the room. 

I'll try my hardest to back the new guy but it's not going to be easy as in the immediate future I'll feel as if he doesn't deserve to be here.

 

 

Said this to a mate yesterday. You almost want the real man in place after the next manager as if they get off to a bad start, which is entirely possible with our injuries, the fans will go after him as a way of getting at the board. 

[Barrs Court Red]

9 minutes ago, Rob k said:

Said this to a mate yesterday. You almost want the real man in place after the next manager as if they get off to a bad start, which is entirely possible with our injuries, the fans will go after him as a way of getting at the board. 

Ha no danger of captain crayon applying that level of 4d chess to the recruitment process. 

[Montpelierblue]

I’m getting the feeling Lansdown isn’t too popular? Is he cut from the same cloth as Vincent Tan? Has a lot of money but no clue how to run a club properly…..I believe our vinnie has taken a bit of a backseat this season and let Mehmet Dalman run the show a bit more, I think we can all see the difference…..

[Kid in the Riot]

Just now, Montpelierblue said:

I’m getting the feeling Lansdown isn’t too popular? Is he cut from the same cloth as Vincent Tan? Has a lot of money but no clue how to run a club properly…..I believe our vinnie has taken a bit of a backseat this season and let Mehmet Dalman run the show a bit more, I think we can all see the difference…..

No, not very popular at all at the moment. Sadly, with Cardiff achieving two promotions to the PL and two cup finals, Lansdown's record is far inferior to Tan's. 

[Barrs Court Red]

3 minutes ago, Montpelierblue said:

I’m getting the feeling Lansdown isn’t too popular? Is he cut from the same cloth as Vincent Tan? Has a lot of money but no clue how to run a club properly…..I believe our vinnie has taken a bit of a backseat this season and let Mehmet Dalman run the show a bit more, I think we can all see the difference…..

Unfortunately for us the owners version of taking a back seat is unleashing his utterly incompetent son on the club as chairman - because if it failed having him as CEO the last time we got relegated, there’s no way it would go wrong with him as chairman…

[Silvio Dante]

40 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

That’s supposed to make me any more positive?

Don’t get the love others have for him, he was a good player with a lengthy career at AG, nothing more.

When I listen to him, he’s pretty inarticulate & just repeats stock phrases.

Seems very happy to change horses in order to stay in his current role to me.

This summer he talked about lower league players with over 100 appearances as our targets, unless we are seriously suggesting Jason Knight, a current international who has played most of his career at Championship was one, we then didn’t sign any of them.

This is spot on to me. Tinnion doesn’t touch my best city team (watching since 1984). It may be sacrosanct, but I don’t think he was exceptional - just good, nothing more. I don’t recall there being serious interest in him from elsewhere which does tell a tale. Great passer with his left foot but not above good at anything else, and that was largely division 3. He’s seen as he is for two reasons - longevity and moments (Liverpool, Cambridge etc). 
 

I might be wrong here but I believe it was reported in the 90s that there was a personal life reason why he never moved on. 

[rednotblue]

I really dont care who replaces Nigel Pearson.

I just want the Lansdowns out of the football club.

 

 

[Montpelierblue]

3 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Unfortunately for us the owners version of taking a back seat is unleashing his utterly incompetent son on the club as chairman - because if it failed having him as CEO the last time we got relegated, there’s no way it would go wrong with him as chairman…

So basically, was doing ok just jumped the gun sacking Pearson ? Surely they would have to take injuries into consideration?

that’s the worry I guess, clueless…..maybe Pearson had just had enough ? Some jumped up rich kid trying to tell him what to do…

[Mr Popodopolous]

9 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

No, not very popular at all at the moment. Sadly, with Cardiff achieving two promotions to the PL and two cup finals, Lansdown's record is far inferior to Tan's. 

Think one of the Cup finals came under a different ownership, and can't forget Parachute Payments assisted with the 2nd promotion.

[RedorDead BCFC]

With the two games coming up, I’m not expecting any announcement until after them. Imagine a new person coming in and losing those two games. 

[supercidered]

I've tried to stay off OTIB since I heard the news about NP.

The reason being that I was so f@cking angry that I may post something that I would regret 'as the dust settles'.

However, I'm still absolutely livid. I'm old enough to have been around watching us in 1976 and then being relegated all the way to the bottom of Div 4 but I've never felt like a feel now.

I've just seen the list of potential managers to replace NP. I'm now feeling even worse! Nobody is going to convince me that anyone on that list is even close to being a better option than NP. 

Just when I thought that I could never be surprised at how inept the hierarchy could be. They have gone and proved me wrong. Again.  

[Riaz]

1 minute ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

With the two games coming up, I’m not expecting any announcement until after them. Imagine a new person coming in and losing those two games. 

I read on a bristol live article, that they "understand" that the club are hoping to appointment someone before saturday!

[Riaz]

Quote

City are understood to have not yet identified a definitive No1 candidate as yet and are expected to speak to a number of managers over the next few days in the hope of securing an appointment in time for Sheffield Wednesday at Ashton Gate on Saturday.

 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-next-manager-pearson-8867389

[Red_Alligator]

Very few of us want to be where we are right now.

We are saddened by the decision to remove Nige, and the manner in which it was done.

Some us fear a relegation battle, which none of us were even considering after Saturday's result. 

At the moment I couldn't care less who is appointed to replace Nige. 

Whoever the jokers appoint will have had no bearing over previous events, which shouldn't go unrecognised upon their appointment.

At present the only thing we can do is get behind the players, whom I'm inclined to feel are as disappointed as us.

COME ON YOU REDS!!!

 

[supercidered]

6 minutes ago, Riaz said:

I read on a bristol live article, that they "understand" that the club are hoping to appointment someone before saturday!

Awesome.

(sarcasm doesn't come across well in typing form).

Hands up who remembers the long and extensive search for a Manager before and then we ended up with Dean f@cking Holden. Lovely human being. Great at filling water bottles and picking up the cones. Should neve be anywhere near the Manager's job. I fear that we will end up with someone of a similar ilk. God I hate Modays at the best of times but today is a whole different level.

[Riaz]

1 minute ago, supercidered said:

Awesome.

(sarcasm doesn't come across well in typing form).

Hands up who remembers the long and extensive search for a Manager before and then we ended up with Dean f@cking Holden. Lovely human being. Great at filling water bottles and picking up the cones. Should neve be anywhere near the Manager's job. I fear that we will end up with someone of a similar ilk. God I hate Modays at the best of times but today is a whole different level.

I feel the same. I dont have much faith in those choosing our next manager. I'm fully expecting a manager, that has been proven to be a lesser manager than Nigel Pearson

[red panda]

2 hours ago, Riaz said:

He had a big budget at Stoke and failed.

Looking at his record overall. He did really well at Brum - but hasn't done anything that impressive since.

I'd be disappointed if he's appointed. We had a better manager, who has done things in his career, which Rowett hasnt got near to achieving

He joined Millwall, who finished in 21st place in 2017/18, in Oct 18.  He guided them to 8th, 11th, 9th and 8th place finishes, only a point off the playoffs last season.  That must be at least borderline impressive?

[Phileas Fogg]

What a shame, especially hiding behind "results" as the rationale. We can all see it's due to the Lansdowns finding Pearson tricky to work with.

I suspect they thought the fans would be more sympathetic after a derby defeat, which once again shows how out of touch they are. 

I don't know who they can appoint who'd realistically be an upgrade. If it's Gary Rowett that would be incredibly underwhelming.

[Riaz]

4 minutes ago, red panda said:

He joined Millwall, who finished in 21st place in 2017/18, in Oct 18.  He guided them to 8th, 11th, 9th and 8th place finishes, only a point off the playoffs last season.  That must be at least borderline impressive?

But then lost his job? where did he leave them in the league?

He did well - but i dont see the rationale in sacking a manager, who has been there and done it. For someone who has done well at times, with never getting a promotion. And he's had a number of clubs.

Edited October 30, 2023 by Riaz

[Dr Balls]

1 minute ago, red panda said:

He joined Millwall, who finished in 21st place in 2017/18, in Oct 18.  He guided them to 8th, 11th, 9th and 8th place finishes, only a point off the playoffs last season.  That must be at least borderline impressive?

Rowett would be a poor man’s version of Pearson. He certainly wouldn’t be the worst on any list being suggested, and might have been fine as a replacement for Holden, but anyone following Nige has huge shoes to fill and I don’t see anyone mentioned so far that makes we in anyway optimistic about who we will end up with, especially given the Lansdown anti-Midas touch when it comes to appointing managers and coaches.

[supercidered]

2 minutes ago, red panda said:

He joined Millwall, who finished in 21st place in 2017/18, in Oct 18.  He guided them to 8th, 11th, 9th and 8th place finishes, only a point off the playoffs last season.  That must be at least borderline impressive?

The problem I have is that I don't care about any of the names that have been mentioned and that includes Rowett. Not one single name on the list is even close to being a better manager than NP. Not even remotely close.

[RedorDead BCFC]

23 minutes ago, Riaz said:

I read on a bristol live article, that they "understand" that the club are hoping to appointment someone before saturday!

They probably said that countless times when looking for LJ’s replacement 

[Sleepy1968]

1 hour ago, petehinton said:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12996039/nigel-pearson-sacked-by-bristol-city-results-far-from-only-issue-behind-veteran-bosses-departure
 

the most perfect summation

Thanks Pete. Say what you like about Sky Sports, but you're right, that was absolutely bang on summary by Ron Walker.

[Riaz]

2 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

They probably said that countless times when looking for LJ’s replacement 

To be fair, they did consistently say, they were “going through a thorough process”

[Dr Balls]

2 minutes ago, Riaz said:

To be fair, they did consistently say, they were “going through a thorough process”

Thoroughly useless would be far closer to the truth. Wanted a “yes man” got a “yes man” and the results on the pitch spoke for themselves, as Holden was way out of his depth.

[Sleepy1968]

55 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Ha no danger of captain crayon applying that level of 4d chess to the recruitment process. 

that description. Someone needs to use it on Sound of the City tonight. Then refer to Steve Lansdown as Captain Crayon's dad. It the small things that get you through.

[Riaz]

Just now, Dr Balls said:

Thoroughly useless would be far closer to the truth. Wanted a “yes man” got a “yes man” and the results on the pitch spoke for themselves, as Holden was way out of his depth.

A very long time, to appoint someone within, was puzzling to say the least

[The Bard]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

That’s supposed to make me any more positive?

Don’t get the love others have for him, he was a good player with a lengthy career at AG, nothing more.

When I listen to him, he’s pretty inarticulate & just repeats stock phrases.

Seems very happy to change horses in order to stay in his current role to me.

This summer he talked about lower league players with over 100 appearances as our targets, unless we are seriously suggesting Jason Knight, a current international who has played most of his career at Championship was one, we then didn’t sign any of them.

Well put. Think he's after more power than just staying in his current role though.

[Numero Uno]

The only thing I would say is when the new Manager comes in we have to give them a chance. If it goes wrong make sure any blame and criticism is vented in the direction of where it REALLY lies. We aren’t an easy club to manage right now and any of the names listed might find it tougher than anything they’ve encountered before. In fact many Managers would have been seething at the line ups we’ve been naming recently. The fact a Manager guiding us through this tough period without public histrionics on the squad aspect has been fired isn’t down to the new manager.

[Dr Balls]

Just listened to this and couldn’t help thinking of out-of-touch executives not really having any idea of what is really going on and then not being able to handle it properly when they have someone speak up about problems, without reflecting on the last 24 hours at Ashton Gate.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001rq70
 

The sacking of Pearson is clearly a case of shooting the messenger rather than appreciating the importance of the message and reacting appropriately!

[Red-Robbo]

14 minutes ago, Riaz said:

But then lost his job? where did he leave them in the league?

He did well - but i dont see the rationale in sacking a manager, who has been there and done it. For someone who has done well at times, with never getting a promotion. And he's had a number of clubs.

Only thing I think is this:

Steve "I'm not prepared to continue to spend much money on this club. You OK with that?"

Nigel "No"

Gary "Yes"

[Riaz]

4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Only thing I think is this:

Steve "I'm not prepared to continue to spend much money on this club. You OK with that?"

Nigel "No"

Gary "Yes"

Saw this elsewhere - not sure how true it is

Edited October 30, 2023 by Riaz

[exAtyeoMax]

Any chance of Downsey going too? Please…

[SecretSam]

3 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Just wanted to share some thoughts.

This will undoubtedly be a time when old manager going / new manager coming in will see comments from posters, me included, giving our opinions and there will be debate for and against on both sides.

But…I see this as a small window of opportunity.

+++++

We have had numerous debates over our time back in the Championship from the managers - Cotts to Johnson to Holden to Pearson, to the Finances, FFP, Covid, etc.  We can all defend our opinions with facts, speculation, and just the way we see it.

However it is clear to me (at least) that we enter a period where we:

• don’t really have any manager “baggage”, no divide from posters who were fanboys of one but not the other.  It feels like a “decks cleared” time.
• no financial issues, FFP at least!  We don’t know the owners funding aspirations / restrictions though.

So we can treat the new manager on merit, although slightly hindered initially by:

• a small squad
• injuries

We will have to wait until January to see if he is allowed to recruit.  At that point we will know whether the budget was just for the old manager or not.  But we can judge new manager accordingly, ie is he hamstrung by budget or not.

Re injuries, a slight tangent, most managers come in and first thing they say is they had to get the players fit.  Well, City are one of the hardest running teams in the division, so that excuse is not valid.  Availability is different.

Ultimately the foundations have been laid.  The new manager has the opportunity to build on them.

I suggest we wait and see who we get and judge them on what they do with Bristol City.

 

Very measured, as always, @Davefevs, but I think Pearson is massively under-appreciated for what he's done, managing through the later COVID phases, reducing the wage bill and making use of the kids, whilst keeping us at least on an even keel in terms of league position. That's quite an achievement.

I'm curious to know what Tins' role in all of this has been. I suspect his influence on the academy has been overstated, and I wonder if he's been whispering in ears. I would be disappointed if he has, but I don't know that man.

As for replacements...someone with fresh ideas would be good, not the same old like Rowett, etc. But FFS not Jones or Lampard.

[exAtyeoMax]

10 minutes ago, Riaz said:

Saw this elsewhere - not sure how true it is

yes its on the Return thread

[glynriley]

40 minutes ago, supercidered said:

Awesome.

(sarcasm doesn't come across well in typing form).

Hands up who remembers the long and extensive search for a Manager before and then we ended up with Dean f@cking Holden. Lovely human being. Great at filling water bottles and picking up the cones. Should neve be anywhere near the Manager's job. I fear that we will end up with someone of a similar ilk. God I hate Modays at the best of times but today is a whole different level.

Spot on Mr Geldof.

Lansdowns Out.

[Glen hump]

It’s going to be Luke Williams, no inside knowledge just a hunch.

[SecretSam]

1 hour ago, petehinton said:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12996039/nigel-pearson-sacked-by-bristol-city-results-far-from-only-issue-behind-veteran-bosses-departure
 

the most perfect summation

Interesting that it references the importance of Gould, with whom I suspect Pearson had an excellent relationship. He was a massive loss.

[Glen hump]

26 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

The only thing I would say is when the new Manager comes in we have to give them a chance. If it goes wrong make sure any blame and criticism is vented in the direction of where it REALLY lies. We aren’t an easy club to manage right now and any of the names listed might find it tougher than anything they’ve encountered before. In fact many Managers would have been seething at the line ups we’ve been naming recently. The fact a Manager guiding us through this tough period without public histrionics on the squad aspect has been fired isn’t down to the new manager.

I’m going to boo even if it’s pep 

[eardun]

2 hours ago, italian dave said:

As @Red-Robbo has already said, the voice of reason Dave. However, that first bullet point seems crucial to me, and I fear that you may be wrong in the assumption you’re making.

A lot of last nights reading on here was pretty depressing. And none more so than where people seem to feel the need to demonstrate their support for NP by turning on everyone and anyone else in any way directly or indirectly associated with what’s happening. Including the new manager/head coach - before we even know who it is.

In several cases that was quite explicit. And one page, possibly even one post, managed to combine dislike of the unknown new person with some personal abuse directed at the last person (LJ) - apparently simply for coming either side of Pearson.

It’s happened before (for some, LJ was never forgiven for replacing SC) and I fear it will happen again. It already seems to be judging by comments even on this thread. 

 

2 hours ago, prankerd said:

The problem is the next manager to come in is going to be so disliked if they dont hit the ground running.

Just imagine the scenes if they get a good transfer kitty in January? Alot of the fan base will be like where was this money in the summer.

Even 5 million of the scott money in the summer would have given us at least 2 or 3 good players that would have taken us up a level and probably be in the playoffs right now.

 

I agree with the above. Most fans have been patient with Pearson as they could see what he was having to turn around and could see the progress - hence the incredulity at his sacking. Unless the new head coach improves results compared to Pearson quickly - given that is Lansdown’s reason for the change - I don’t think the fans will be patient and it could get quite toxic very quickly. 

[spudski]

4 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Just wanted to share some thoughts.

This will undoubtedly be a time when old manager going / new manager coming in will see comments from posters, me included, giving our opinions and there will be debate for and against on both sides.

But…I see this as a small window of opportunity.

+++++

We have had numerous debates over our time back in the Championship from the managers - Cotts to Johnson to Holden to Pearson, to the Finances, FFP, Covid, etc.  We can all defend our opinions with facts, speculation, and just the way we see it.

However it is clear to me (at least) that we enter a period where we:

• don’t really have any manager “baggage”, no divide from posters who were fanboys of one but not the other.  It feels like a “decks cleared” time.
• no financial issues, FFP at least!  We don’t know the owners funding aspirations / restrictions though.

So we can treat the new manager on merit, although slightly hindered initially by:

• a small squad
• injuries

We will have to wait until January to see if he is allowed to recruit.  At that point we will know whether the budget was just for the old manager or not.  But we can judge new manager accordingly, ie is he hamstrung by budget or not.

Re injuries, a slight tangent, most managers come in and first thing they say is they had to get the players fit.  Well, City are one of the hardest running teams in the division, so that excuse is not valid.  Availability is different.

Ultimately the foundations have been laid.  The new manager has the opportunity to build on them.

I suggest we wait and see who we get and judge them on what they do with Bristol City.

 

Nice post Dave,

It might also be worthwhile refreshing ourselves as to what Phil Alexander said back in September, re finance, backing, expectancy, recruitment and whether money will be released in January. 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-lansdown-pearson-transfer-8727775

[CyderInACan]

1 hour ago, Sleepy1968 said:

2 hours ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Ha no danger of captain crayon applying that level of 4d chess to the recruitment process. 

that description. Someone needs to use it on Sound of the City tonight. Then refer to Steve Lansdown as Captain Crayon's dad. It the small things that get you through.

I refer to him as the Crayola Kid. 

[Ian M]

38 minutes ago, Glen hump said:

I’m going to boo even if it’s pep 

Man City fans are gonna be furious when they find out the replacement is gonna be Sean Dyche.

[Glen hump]

4 minutes ago, Ian M said:

Man City fans are gonna be furious when they find out the replacement is gonna be Sean Dyche.

Or Barton 

[exAtyeoMax]

42 minutes ago, Glen hump said:

I’m going to boo even if it’s pep 

I might ooh… 

[TommyD68]

I really don’t know how to feel about this, have a huge amount of respect for Nige and what he managed to achieve in a very difficult situation. He did exactly what he was brought in to do, make the club stable again. I did always struggle to see us ever getting further than mid table with Nige though, that being said I doubt any other manager would have achieved more than he did with the limitations he had during his time here. 
 

I’d like to think the foundations are there now to build on for whoever comes in, the only ‘realistic’ name that excites me is Eustace. Based on what he achieved at Birmingham in a short space of time, and their fans clearly think the world of him. Rowett not entirely sure about, I think would be a snooze fest, Nathan Jones… the less said about that option the better Dean Smith is the less realistic candidate who I think would be great, but I imagine he might wait around for something else. Time will tell.. wish Nige all the best as I’m sure the majority do!

[redkev]

3 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

With our dire injury situation that's not going to happen.

I think it's only Nige's experience and calmness and the respect the players hold him in that has prevented a thrashing for our patchwork team in the last few games.

I don't think we should underestimate the effect Nige's sacking will have on the morale of the depleted squad - they were given confidence and were willing to run through brick walls for him, it's not going to be the same with a new manager, or indeed no manager.

Sheffield Wednesday may be bottom of the table but such is our disarray things could really fall apart on Saturday, new manager or not.

 

I totally agree was just saying if that did happen that’s football I’m afraid , just get the feeling like you said we might just see how well Nige has done with the next batch of results looming

[shelts]

I liked Nigel but was never a fan of the product on the pitch . What he’s done off the pitch has been nothing short of a miracle , unfortunately he talked out of turn to his bosses while on a poor run of form.  His sacking wasn’t a surprise as people where talking about it @  Cardiff as it was gonna happen after the game which I thought was a load of rubbish. 
Apparently we’ve had the feelers out for a new manager for a bit and having been tapping up agents . 
The club is in a bad way and we lurch from one disaster to another . Not sure the club anticipated such a response from the its own fans over the sacking and they’ll look to get us onside sooner rather than later . 
Interesting posts about Tinnions role in all of this , I thought they got on him and Nige 
I expect the new guy to get funds in January 
if I could choose a new manager I’d go for Chris Wilder .  
Tin hat on 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Did Lampard inherit a complete mess at Chelsea.

They may have had some difficulties but finished 3rd, albeit lost Hazard which is a key blow. Transfer embargo yes but the squad he inherited was good and their youth academy is excellent.

He would want a good budget and if we can't provide it for NP, why give it to Lampard.

He finished 6th just, with a side containing Tomori, Mount, Wilson at Championship level.

Not for me.

Put another way, why trust Lampard with a bigger chunk of the best egg than Pearson?

Edited October 30, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[DaveInSA]

This quote "Luton got promoted with a squad with far less talent than we have in our squad," owner Steve Lansdown, Jon's father, said publicly in the summer

From the Sky article referenced above is all you need to know about how clueless Steve is regarding footballing matters.

I've been done with them for years. They're shambolic, have paper-thin governance as @ExiledAjax pointedly points out multiple times. They rule as if they are kings of the club. Problem is, that a king needs advisors - and where are they? 

I may need to eat my words. And good god, if they get this right I will gladly do so. But we've been here and done that - several times - Cyclical Steve. And I'm done with their pettiness and sense of entitlement.

 

[robin_unreliant]

1 hour ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Thanks Pete. Say what you like about Sky Sports, but you're right, that was absolutely bang on summary by Ron Walker.

Really didn't think anyone at sky was capable of that depth of understanding. It certainly captures it very well.

[Northern Cider Ed]

1 hour ago, Glen hump said:

It’s going to be Luke Williams, no inside knowledge just a hunch.

I also have the same hunch. Im waiting for Skybet to put him in the betting

[ralphindevon]

1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Any chance of Downsey going too? Please…

He's 2nd favourite for the managers job! 

[bcfc01]

4 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

Really didn't think anyone at sky was capable of that depth of understanding. It certainly captures it very well.

They're not.

It was written by one of us.

[Glen hump]

2 minutes ago, Northern Cider Ed said:

I also have the same hunch. Im waiting for Skybet to put him in the betting

Have asked skybet for a price but no luck yet 

[Meh]

So take it up the glitter and hope for the best approach?

The normal Bristol City fanbase approach that has served us so well and allowed the owner to continue to do whatever he wants.

[Ostrich]

there are some similarities to how he left leicester first time around - he was back 18 months later with unfinished business once everyone realised the mistake

Edited October 30, 2023 by Ostrich

[exAtyeoMax]

19 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Did Lampard inherit a complete mess at Chelsea.

They may have had some difficulties but finished 3rd, albeit lost Hazard which is a key blow. Transfer embargo yes but the squad he inherited was good and their youth academy is excellent.

He woukd want a good budget and if we can't provide it for NP, why give it to Lampard.

He finished 6th just, with a side containing Tomori, Mount, Wilson at Championship level.

Not for me.

Put another way, why trust Lampard with a bigger chunk of the best egg than Pearson?

because he's Frank Lampard

[exAtyeoMax]

11 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

He's 2nd favourite for the managers job! 

at I can switch off the post match diatribe

[Bazooka Joe]

1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Any chance of Downsey going too? Please…

Are you joking?

Judging by Lansdown's record of previous appointments, he'll be our new manager.

And in case anyone thinks I'm joking, I've placed a fiver on Downsey being our next manager.

Given the odds, when Downsey's apppointed, I'll be a billionaire.

Then I'll buy our club back from that useless feckur Lansdown . . .  and reappoint Pearson !

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, spudski said:

Nice post Dave,

It might also be worthwhile refreshing ourselves as to what Phil Alexander said back in September, re finance, backing, expectancy, recruitment and whether money will be released in January. 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-lansdown-pearson-transfer-8727775