bexhill reds Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Really not enthused by a Lampard appointment, a very average manager boosted by the success of his playing career, been slowly found out at each club he goes to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 I can see this happening, and moderately positive about it. For FL, it's a possible chance to resurrect a managerial career. He wasn't going to turn down Chelsea, but they came calling far too soon in his career. A bit of a gamble for us, but any appointment would be. And bringing in a Johnson must be good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: When was that? How much did he spend? 2009 the first one 2014 the second one Dunno how much he spent.... You can probs Google it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnheadbcfc Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Riaz said: Until we are relegated and we then get less money. Or get promoted and get more money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, johnheadbcfc said: Or get promoted and get more money? What about Frank Lampard's managerial career, remotely suggests he would improve us. Edited November 2, 2023 by Riaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 49 minutes ago, 42nite said: Won nothing. Who to ? I missed the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: If this is true, I would imagine that he would be asking for a very minimal salary but with a nice bonus if he achieved promotion during the contract. He already has enough cash in his bank account for a couple more lifetimes so I think if it happens, it would not break wages structure. Indeed- if he really want's it he will take the wage offered,and as you say,he sure don't need anymore. But does he have the desire in his gut for the fight ?? A very Lansdown kudos appointment!! Edited November 2, 2023 by Son of Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 33 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: Which list? Luke Williams if he's still on it. Not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Are people rubbishing this because they just don't like Frank Lampard? I'm undecided really although his managerial record really isn't that bad, There are far worse options out there 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnheadbcfc Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Riaz said: What about Frank Lampard remotely suggests he would improve us. Done well with Derby, coached one of the world's biggest clubs. Who would be your preference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: Yes- not at BCFC hence my point re recent Managers.. I really think it's a complete nonsense to require someone to have won promotion before. It's about what they can do here not what just they have done elsewhere. It's almost 10 years since Nige won anything but didnt stop him from doing a great job at City in most people's view. Fair dos skipper, just wanted to point out he had won stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherrich Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Whoever gets the job, fans have to get behind him, even if the Lansdowns need to go. It’s not Lampard’s fault what happened to Nige P. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelton Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Anyone volunteering to stand outside the ground from 10-30 to see if Frank turns up? I would do but it's going to be raining 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, fisherrich said: Whoever gets the job, fans have to get behind him, even if the Lansdowns need to go. It’s not Lampard’s fault what happened to Nige P. Don't think anybody has said they won't get behind the new man. Unless it's Lee Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnheadbcfc Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, fisherrich said: Whoever gets the job, fans have to get behind him, even if the Lansdowns need to go. It’s not Lampard’s fault what happened to Nige P. Totally agree , hoping the appointment whoever it is pushes the club foward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gimme Shelton said: Anyone volunteering to stand outside the ground from 10-30 to see if Frank turns up? I would do but it's going to be raining Need the training ground covered as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddarwedlocker Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Eagerly waiting for shags to here we go this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, johnheadbcfc said: Done well with Derby, coached one of the world's biggest clubs. Who would be your preference? Did he do well at Derby? Like i said previously on here. He took a team already finishing 6th in the league the season before. Added Mason Mount & Tomori on loan and acheived? nothing. They still lost in the play-offs. He coached chelsea because of his playing career... and failed. So what part of all that or his time at Everton, shows he has ability as a manager? good start at chelsea, thanks to an incredible academy and then...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, OliOTIB said: Eagerly waiting for shags to here we go this Indeed. @Bcfcshags you there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) Lampard is a media guy. If this was happening and that close Talksport and Sky would be all over it. Not one reputable journalist has even linked him with it. Be prepared to be disappointed with a league one coach! This is BCFC! If I’m wrong then happy to say so. Edited November 2, 2023 by Shauntaylor85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Kid Shags Robin. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isawjonshaw Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Frank would want £ to spend. End of chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Dave Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, Riaz said: Until we are relegated and we then get less money. You really don’t like him, do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 I can’t see it happening but one thing I do respect Lampard for is that he could have taken the easy life and got plenty of work as a pundit (still time for that I guess) but he is putting his football legacy on line by still backing himself to manage despite the obvious shortcomings he has shown over the past few years. Feel he went in too early with the Chelsea job first time around when he should have been learning the trade in the Championship or below. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 I think if Lampard is appointed it just reaffirms that the Lansdowns and the board are ******* morons. The only positive of Lampard is that it will get eyes on the club, the problem is when we're at the bottom of the league that won't be positive eyes on the club. My brother is an Everton supporter, he hates Lampard and I can understand why having watched so many games under Lampard with him. He's tactically inept, awful interviews that only seem to piss fans off and is another manager living off of his connections as a player. I honestly think Lampard for us will be the same as what's happening at Birmingham right now, Eustace had them playing to a strategy, the team understood it, they were happy playing it, they'd just won back to back games and he gets sacked, the big player name Rooney comes in and now they've lost 3 on the bounce. I can honestly e the same happening to us under Lampard, loads of hype, the board showing off their 'big name' to replace Nigel, only for them to realise he's a crap manager, even if he is the yes man they want. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, Hello Dave said: You really don’t like him, do you? No actually i do like him. But people get blinded by playing careers. Great player. Good character. Forget that though. Judge him, on his career as a manager/head coach. Because thats what he'll be coming to do. And there isnt anything to suggest he'll be a success. This is EXACTLY the type of appointment i dread and we need to avoid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gimme Shelton said: Anyone volunteering to stand outside the ground from 10-30 to see if Frank turns up? I would do but it's going to be raining I can't imagine that our owner will flying over from Guernsey this morning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gratz260689 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, Frenchay Red said: I can't imagine that our owner will flying over from Guernsey this morning He don’t need to his sons already here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 50 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Pearson was sacked on Sunday, much as I’m still disgusted by that, I can’t really complain he hasn’t been replaced inside 5 days. It will not be Curtis Fleming. I'd rather Curtis Stigers. Here we go again with the Same as usual. I thought it would be a Lifetime Together with NP but then I thought After you've gone, I wonder why there can be nobody else. I'll get my coat! (not a Curtis Stigers song). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said: I can't imagine that our owner will flying over from Guernsey this morning Will definitely need to be a remote interview today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowie Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 hours ago, robinforlife2 said: Meets the club at 11am today. That has come from a very good friend of his. HE WILL be our manager by the end of tomorrow Friday. He will be at Ashton Gate on Saturday to watch the team. I don't care if people want to dismiss what I've said, but my friend is someone who has known Frank since they were both at West Ham in the mid 90s and Frank has openly told him since Sunday afternoon, he wants this job. He sees us as an under achieving team who should be in the Premier League. The posted above who said his agent met the club, that is not true in the slightest. Frank technically doesn't have an agent, he has a business manager, and financial consultant, but neither of those get involved in football related matters. He approached a member of our staff, and he was put in touch with someone. He spent 2 hours on the phone with them on Monday, saying why he wanted the job, and made it clear, he is serious about taking Bristol City to the Premier League. Since then, he has been sorting out personal matters and meets the club today, but he wants the job. Also, I've read that people are saying Jody Morris will come with him, he won't. As said on the other thread the other day, Michael Johnson, the England Under 18 coach will be coming with him, as his assistant, not Jody. Frank is heavily impressed by our academy and youth development and thinks that he and Johnson can help progress a number of youngsters and take the club forward. Call out all you want, say what you want, and if I am wrong I am wrong, but I won't be. Since Frank got in touch, the club turned their attentions away from Eustace and Rowett and feel that Lampard matches the clubs ambition and remit. I will say it one final time, and wont be posting again until he is announced as manager, which means if he isn't, I wont post again full stop. Frank Lampard will be our new manager, he is expected to sign a deal today and it will be announced tomorrow, and he will be at the game on Saturday. Michael Johnson will assist him. I think your next post will be from robinforlife3 1 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Really? Lampard? Did average at Derby with millions to spend. Went nowhere with Chelsea (although admittedly that also happened to someone like Potter who I do regard highly, but this was after that unhinged American came in whereas lampard had Roman) and then scraped by with Everton who are a complete mess so it's hard to judge. Zero confidence he has any tactical awareness. One of the worst performances I've ever seen was his Everton side getting taken to the cleaners at Spurs a few years back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Did well at Chelsea first time, on the whole. Started well then got found out a bit Failed at Derby Failed at Everton Failed at Chelsea Cant see it happening anyway thankfully. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, fisherrich said: Whoever gets the job, fans have to get behind him, even if the Lansdowns need to go. It’s not Lampard’s fault what happened to Nige P. Sorry but I'm fed up of this rhetoric, I won't back Lampard and I don't think any fan who thinks he's incapable of the job should either. "it's not Lampard fault"... No it's not, but if he's got an ounce of common sense he would look into the club, what's happened and understand that is the job he's accepting, one where the fans already had a manager they wanted and the board took him away, the same board that would be appointing him to do as they say. I've spent years and years backing the new man because I believed that board were looking out for the best interests of the club, by sacking Pearson because they had an issue with him they showed that their own feelings matter more than what's best for the club and the fans. Cheering on an inferior replacement isn't going to achieve anything other than to show the board they can do as they please and the fans will do exactly what the board want them to do. If ever the board has had to get an appointment spot on perfect, it's now and Lampard would be nothing more than a PR stunt that will ultimately backfire. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 14 pages.... Admittedly 90% of it is just people repeatedly saying "he failed at Derby and Chelsea", but still. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 If it was true we tried to get Gerrard not so long ago from Rangers then this has similar vibes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhhshauntaylor Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Spike said: I think if Lampard is appointed it just reaffirms that the Lansdowns and the board are ******* morons. The only positive of Lampard is that it will get eyes on the club, . As we’re actively trying to sell the club- this is where it potentially makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Riaz said: No actually i do like him. But people get blinded by playing careers. Great player. Good character. Forget that though. Judge him, on his career as a manager/head coach. Because thats what he'll be coming to do. And there isnt anything to suggest he'll be a success. This is EXACTLY the type of appointment i dread and we need to avoid. I personally don't want Lampard either. He brings too much focus. For the wrong reasons. The media focus on him and not the Club. He'd be looking at a club like us to get back into football and a stepping stone. Who wants to hear 'Frank Lampards Bristol City' every time. The cynic in me thinks he's the ideal appointment if SL wants attention to make a sale. As for his coaching style...this is a good summary. Coaching wise he could fit. https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/frank-lampard-chelsea-derby-coach/#:~:text=Playing style,Azpilicueta was at right-back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Spike said: Sorry but I'm fed up of this rhetoric, I won't back Lampard and I don't think any fan who thinks he's incapable of the job should either. "it's not Lampard fault"... No it's not, but if he's got an ounce of common sense he would look into the club, what's happened and understand that is the job he's accepting, one where the fans already had a manager they wanted and the board took him away, the same board that would be appointing him to do as they say. I've spent years and years backing the new man because I believed that board were looking out for the best interests of the club, by sacking Pearson because they had an issue with him they showed that their own feelings matter more than what's best for the club and the fans. Cheering on an inferior replacement isn't going to achieve anything other than to show the board they can do as they please and the fans will do exactly what the board want them to do. If ever the board has had to get an appointment spot on perfect, it's now and Lampard would be nothing more than a PR stunt that will ultimately backfire. As said elsewhere football management is supply and demand, with supply of managers being much greater than available posts. Managers will take jobs at clubs in varying degrees of distress / mis management because that’s what they have to do. So whoever it is (and I don’t want Lampard at all) they’ll get my support, as ultimately not wanting the team to succeed because of the owners is cutting off your nose to spite your face, imho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said: true but we can have some fun with it - all the other mooted candidates are utterly depressing! Fraaaaaaaaaaaank Yes, it's all good fun. Right or wrong, @robinforlife2 has brightened things up for us all as we await the puff of smoke from the AG chimney 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 42 minutes ago, Fuber said: 2014. He made a net profit of £800k that season, and the only player he signed for a fee was Riyad Mahrez. Go look at his net spend during the entire duration of his second spell in charge. I’ll save you the trouble. Transfermarkt so not 100% but gives you an idea. Does it in Euros and exchange rate different then. 11/12 season - Spent 12-15m. Sold 1-2m 12/13 season - Spent 5-6m. Sold 1-2m 13/14 season - Spent 500k Sold about 1m So a bit of a myth he performed miracles there isn’t it? Keep in mind was 10-12 years ago when the record fees were for Ronaldo’s and Bales well under 100m quid. He got LJ level backing and it took 3 seasons. Like most “winners” he needed money to be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, ohhhshauntaylor said: As we’re actively trying to sell the club- this is where it potentially makes sense. Maybe initially, but we hire Lampard and end up at the bottom half of the table as I think we would, how does that help convince a buyer? Now they have a crap manager instead of a solid one with fan backing and probably a hefty fee to pay to get rid of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnheadbcfc Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Go look at his net spend during the entire duration of his second spell in charge. I’ll save you the trouble. Transfermarkt so not 100% but gives you an idea. Does it in Euros and exchange rate different then. 11/12 season - Spent 12-15m. Sold 1-2m 12/13 season - Spent 5-6m. Sold 1-2m 13/14 season - Spent 500k Sold about 1m So a bit of a myth he performed miracles there isn’t it? Keep in mind was 10-12 years ago when the record fees were for Ronaldo’s and Bales well under 100m quid. He got LJ level backing and it took 3 seasons. Like most “winners” he needed money to be successful. Good post that joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 A Coach who hasn't really done well despite spending a lot of money and dealing with some boardroom politics? S**t seems like we're hiring Lampard then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnheadbcfc Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Spike said: Maybe initially, but we hire Lampard and end up at the bottom half of the table as I think we would, how does that help convince a buyer? Now they have a crap manager instead of a solid one with fan backing and probably a hefty fee to pay to get rid of him. At our current form pearson was taking us down though? I liked pearson but its its getting out of hand now, anyone would think hes our fergie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleRed Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 I think I just read somewhere, someone questioning Lampards tactical awareness. Hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1stknowle Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, steveybadger said: But haven’t those managers won things? Just a thought. Exactly my point, right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1stknowle Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Didn't Mourinho win the Premier league and Pep the Champions League after those decisions ? Again, this is my point. You can do this cherry picking of things they got right and wrong to even the most successful managers. If the criterion is 'won stuff' then that is different conversation, but not the point I was responding to. Edited November 2, 2023 by the1stknowle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnheadbcfc Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Whats crazy is the fact that some of our fans think we are too good for lampard Newsflash this isn't a big club. One day I pray we will be 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: Really? Lampard? Did average at Derby with millions to spend. Went nowhere with Chelsea (although admittedly that also happened to someone like Potter who I do regard highly, but this was after that unhinged American came in whereas lampard had Roman) and then scraped by with Everton who are a complete mess so it's hard to judge. Zero confidence he has any tactical awareness. One of the worst performances I've ever seen was his Everton side getting taken to the cleaners at Spurs a few years back. Exactly! What lunatic goes away to a spurs side that includes Kane and Son, and plays a high line with a defence that includes the likes of Keane, holgate, Coleman and Kenny?? Everyone could see what would happen there…. and it did! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, steveybadger said: As said elsewhere football management is supply and demand, with supply of managers being much greater than available posts. Managers will take jobs at clubs in varying degrees of distress / mis management because that’s what they have to do. So whoever it is (and I don’t want Lampard at all) they’ll get my support, as ultimately not wanting the team to succeed because of the owners is cutting off your nose to spite your face, imho. And you're entitled to your opinion but I think the more you suport the boards bad decisions the more you have to accept them. If we just keep getting behind managers every time the board make a mistake, if we keep going to games and doing exactly what JL wants and cheering on the team despite the board ******* them up then we're just as much to blame as the board themselves. If Frank comes in I'll vote with my wallet and my voice, by not supplying the club with either until they make the decision I'm willing to back, that's my choice and if that means I'm seen as less of a supporter or fan, so be it, at least I won't be singing along to the tune of Jon Lansdown and his merry bunch of clowns who can't accept that maybe, just maybe, the footballing experienced members of their employees may know more than them about football. I'm done supporting JL, to me Lampard is the man you bring in to get eyes on the club, not to do what's best for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 hours ago, One Team said: To be fair to @robinforlife2 here that’s a heck of a lot of detail on the subject for it to be a complete fabrication. We shall see of course but that does sound it’s got something to it. Just because someone goes into detail doesn’t mean it’s true. Anyone can write a story about being a millionaire next week! It is not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, Spike said: I think if Lampard is appointed it just reaffirms that the Lansdowns and the board are ******* morons. The only positive of Lampard is that it will get eyes on the club, the problem is when we're at the bottom of the league that won't be positive eyes on the club. My brother is an Everton supporter, he hates Lampard and I can understand why having watched so many games under Lampard with him. He's tactically inept, awful interviews that only seem to piss fans off and is another manager living off of his connections as a player. I honestly think Lampard for us will be the same as what's happening at Birmingham right now, Eustace had them playing to a strategy, the team understood it, they were happy playing it, they'd just won back to back games and he gets sacked, the big player name Rooney comes in and now they've lost 3 on the bounce. I can honestly e the same happening to us under Lampard, loads of hype, the board showing off their 'big name' to replace Nigel, only for them to realise he's a crap manager, even if he is the yes man they want. If it happens to can guarantee the return at Birmingham will be a live game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcnick Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 One of the biggest fallacies is that a great player makes a great coach. I suspect SL holds that belief hence the flirtation with Gerrard and he likes a name regardless of quality - David James being the obvious one when he was past it. Some of the best football coaches are those who retired young and took their coaching badges early - McKenna being a prime example. This generally applies to all sports although tennis with the likes of Lendl provides an exception for various reasons as the coaches are primarily focusing on mindset and small tweaks for the grand slams as the players will have their technique honed already. There was always this thing about Frank Lampard having a colossally high Einstein-esque IQ and perhaps he has, but it just doesn't transfer to football coaching skills. If SL and co are intent on going down the head coach route then they just need to pick an inspiring young coach in the McKenna mould. If they want slightly proven then the likes of John Mousinho should be a target but then again he'd need a lot of persuading to move from Portsmouth. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, johnheadbcfc said: At our current form pearson was taking us down though? I liked pearson but its its getting out of hand now, anyone would think hes our fergie Form changes and what do you expect our form to be like with half of the squad out injured? The points per season had gone up every season Pearson was here, he fixed our finances, he United our fan base and he wasn't a shill for the board, that's why the backlash is so high, he had the clubs best interest at heart, not the chairman's. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, johnheadbcfc said: Whats crazy is the fact that some of our fans think we are too good for lampard Newsflash this isn't a big club. One day I pray we will be No one thinks we are too good for Lampard. It's more that Lampard isn't right for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Lampard didn't fail at Derby, took them to the playoff final in his first season. He wasn't ready to manage Chelsea it came too soon and Everton is a basket case anyway I keep thinking though when Nige was appointed he was never mentioned once on OTIB despite the usual ITK posters saying a deal was imminent with candidate X/y/z 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleRed Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Spike said: Form changes and what do you expect our form to be like with half of the squad out injured? The points per season had gone up every season Pearson was here, he fixed our finances, he United our fan base and he wasn't a shill for the board, that's why the backlash is so high, he had the clubs best interest at heart, not the chairman's. Pearson fixed the clubs finances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Winston said: Exactly! What lunatic goes away to a spurs side that includes Kane and Son, and plays a high line with a defence that includes the likes of Keane, holgate, Coleman and Kenny?? Everyone could see what would happen there…. and it did! I was at the game (my cousins are spurs season ticket holders) and I vaguely recall a 4-1-4-1 formation? I think he thought Delph or someone like that could track Kane dropping into the hole. Whatever his plan was, as you say, it was totally ripped apart and we could have seen a cricket score. Kane dropped deep, son exposed the high line. Game over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnheadbcfc Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, Spike said: Form changes and what do you expect our form to be like with half of the squad out injured? The points per season had gone up every season Pearson was here, he fixed our finances, he United our fan base and he wasn't a shill for the board, that's why the backlash is so high, he had the clubs best interest at heart, not the chairman's. How do you know he had the clubs best interests at heart, were you walking the mendips with him, for all we know he wanted a shiny new pre retirement contract to see him out (like everyone would ) Form changes yeah whos to say the next manager form won't change for the better. Ou may be better off binning city and supporting pearsons next team if he doesn't retire due to health. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, johnheadbcfc said: Whats crazy is the fact that some of our fans think we are too good for lampard Newsflash this isn't a big club. One day I pray we will be What's crazy is that some fans think having a big name as a player is just as good as having a big name for managing football clubs when it comes to appointing managers. Are we bigger than Frank, no, more people will know Frank Lampard than Bristol City, that's a fair statement. However, take Lampards achievements and statistics as a manager, then apply a generic name that noone knows, then put that CV on the table and see if he gets a second look... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnheadbcfc Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Selred said: No one thinks we are too good for Lampard. It's more that Lampard isn't right for us. How is he not right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, bcfcnick said: One of the biggest fallacies is that a great player makes a great coach. I suspect SL holds that belief hence the flirtation with Gerrard and he likes a name regardless of quality - David James being the obvious one when he was past it. Some of the best football coaches are those who retired young and took their coaching badges early - McKenna being a prime example. This generally applies to all sports although tennis with the likes of Lendl provides an exception for various reasons as the coaches are primarily focusing on mindset and small tweaks for the grand slams as the players will have their technique honed already. There was always this thing about Frank Lampard having a colossally high Einstein-esque IQ and perhaps he has, but it just doesn't transfer to football coaching skills. If SL and co are intent on going down the head coach route then they just need to pick an inspiring young coach in the McKenna mould. If they want slightly proven then the likes of John Mousinho should be a target but then again he'd need a lot of persuading to move from Portsmouth. Lampard is well spoken and had a GCSE in Latin. Go around any office and you will find many people far sharper than Frank. He seems like a nice bloke but he is not exactly a PhD brainbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: Lampard didn't fail at Derby, took them to the playoff final in his first season. He wasn't ready to manage Chelsea it came too soon and Everton is a basket case anyway I keep thinking though when Nige was appointed he was never mentioned once on OTIB despite the usual ITK posters saying a deal was imminent with candidate X/y/z 10 men Bristol City v Derby 27th April 2019 Two play off chasing teams but in reality there was only one 'team'. The other, almost a year into Lampard's management, were just a collection of individuals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, UncleRed said: Pearson fixed the clubs finances. I mean add the laughing emoji but he worked within a tiny budget, he made no big signings, was forced to sell a key asset at the worst time possible and wasn't allowed to spend to replace. The man literally kept us competitive whilst being given nothing to work with, almost every fan with any knowledge of our time under him and an ounce of common sence will accept that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, Spike said: If ever the board has had to get an appointment spot on perfect, it's now and Lampard would be nothing more than a PR stunt that will ultimately backfire. I don't think Lampard will happen, because if the owner doesn’t want to release funds to ensure we have two experienced goalkeepers at the club, he probably won't want to release funds to pay a Lampard-sized salary to his manager (don't think Lamps would accept being "head coach"). But your post is spot on, especially this paragraph. I would hope Lansdown would have learned from his "marquee signing" of David James, that big names do not always equate with big success here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowie Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Robinforlife2 is Roy 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Did well at Chelsea first time, on the whole. Started well then got found out a bit Failed at Derby Failed at Everton Failed at Chelsea Cant see it happening anyway thankfully. Plus if it did I wonder how long it would be before he tells Lansdown to poke it- Another Steve Coppell anyone??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: Lampard didn't fail at Derby, took them to the playoff final in his first season. He wasn't ready to manage Chelsea it came too soon and Everton is a basket case anyway I keep thinking though when Nige was appointed he was never mentioned once on OTIB despite the usual ITK posters saying a deal was imminent with candidate X/y/z He didn't do dreadfully there either, to be fair. In his first season they finished fourth and reached the FA Cup Final 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Spike said: What's crazy is that some fans think having a big name as a player is just as good as having a big name for managing football clubs when it comes to appointing managers. Are we bigger than Frank, no, more people will know Frank Lampard than Bristol City, that's a fair statement. However, take Lampards achievements and statistics as a manager, then apply a generic name that noone knows, then put that CV on the table and see if he gets a second look... That's quite the statement... I don't believe more people know Frank Lampard than Bristol City at all One metric, Lampard 8m google results, City 446m google results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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