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Mr Popodopolous

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Rumours or not, for the injury list to rise from 6 to 8 after an International break is quite something.

Naismith and Williams joined the list ahead of the Coventry game and were not on International duty so that can't be attributed either.

While McCrorie, Tanner, Atkinson, Vyner, Benarous all remained out and were medium to long term.

Wells was injured at Leeds and remained so.

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Merrick's Marvels

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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I did chuckle when he said that….but it got lost amongst all the other stuff that was in that interview.

I found it staggering and completely unsurprising all that the same time.

Maybe staggering because he said it out loud, unsurprising because it just confirmed how useless they are at the football side of things.

 

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37 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

Given Jon's faculties, I'd imagine he's googled "Agents" and is currently getting loads of return calls from Thomas Cook & Lunn Polly! 

………..and then the answer “computer says no”

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8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Rumours or not, for the injury list to rise from 6 to 8 after an International break is quite something.

Naismith and Williams joined the list ahead of the Coventry game and were not on International duty so that can't be attributed either.

While McCrorie, Tanner, Atkinson, Vyner, Benarous all remained out and were medium to long term.

Wells was injured at Leeds and remained so.

Definitely backs up what @Bcfcshags was saying around why Rennie went. 

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REDOXO

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38 minutes ago, phantom said:

Straws being grasped at desperately here, if he was unwell they couldn't sack him, nobody can sack someone based on ill health

Buying too much into sound bites that the club have released recently

It's no secret internally NPs days have been numbered but the axe started swinging after the Leeds fixture

If he was getting his contract paid up then the ill health is irrelevant to his dismissal and the only reason said publicly was results. 
 

Most of us are ordinary employees that have protections under law. 
 

However what has gone on here is scum baggery of mammoth proportions. Coming from the owner, the son, the other board member and if true (allegedly) Brian T 

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8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Rumours or not, for the injury list to rise from 6 to 8 after an International break is quite something.

Naismith and Williams joined the list ahead of the Coventry game and were not on International duty so that can't be attributed either.

While McCrorie, Tanner, Atkinson, Vyner, Benarous all remained out and were medium to long term.

Wells was injured at Leeds and remained so.

Think you've nailed the pretext for the sacking right there.

Tinnion referenced fitness without specifically saying this was the reason.

Given this period is when the rumours about Pearson being removed started in earnest, they would've been watching intently for anything that they could point at as justification for sacking. Having negligent assistants could be used. 

As someone said, the Coventry result probably scuppered their plans.

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33 minutes ago, Zuni said:

This was the issue they had before, wanted to get rid but had to pull back last minute re- health issues. They have had to wait for a different "trigger" to move him on, possibly performance related.

Again, I reference the day of the Radio Bristol interview by Gould that was hastily arranged and the media being summoned to the HPC.

Interesting day that.

Which interview is this?

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9 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

If he was getting his contract paid up then the ill health is irrelevant to his dismissal and the only reason said publicly was results. 
 

Most of us are ordinary employees that have protections under law. 
 

However what has gone on here is scum baggery of mammoth proportions. Coming from the owner, the son, the other board member and if true (allegedly) Brian T 

Think Brian’s interview gave the game away, he was really uncomfortable, think he knew he’d been rumbled 

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Davefevs

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26 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Rumours or not, for the injury list to rise from 6 to 8 after an International break is quite something.

Naismith and Williams joined the list ahead of the Coventry game and were not on International duty so that can't be attributed either.

While McCrorie, Tanner, Atkinson, Vyner, Benarous all remained out and were medium to long term.

Wells was injured at Leeds and remained so.

Naismith was injured at Leeds, calf tightened in last 5-10 minutes.  Heard about it earlyish in international break, so not something that happened on return.  I think some posters alluded to it without saying so during the break, because they’d heard the same.

This is a simple example of how a bit of “information” (mis-information - who knows), gets put out there and people start making 2+2 calculations.

Thats not having a go at you Mr P. btw, it’s just how these things work.  And it’s fine to question based on new information, the problem is being able to tell what is truthful and what isn’t.

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Mr Popodopolous

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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Naismith was injured at Leeds, calf tightened in last 5-10 minutes.  Heard about it earlyish in international break, so not something that happened on return.  I think some posters alluded to it without saying so during the break, because they’d heard the same.

This is a simple example of how a bit of “information” (mis-information - who knows), gets put out there and people start making 2+2 calculations.

Thats not having a go at you Mr P. btw, it’s just how these things work.  And it’s fine to question based on new information, the problem is being able to tell what is truthful and what isn’t.

Thanks Dave, he had a tightened calf at Leeds late on? Of course with a slightly deeper squad he could have been substituted and it may have changed the trajectory which is something to criticise the hierarchy above the first team for ie the board.

The injuries still feel too high compared to our peers though, the rolling and persistent nature does remain a concern. Even if one or two errors were made, it feels a very convenient excuse to get rid. The injury situation seems to have been above average for years though.

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The Dolman Pragmatist

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Just now, chowie said:

Zak says 'split the fanbase'" I'm not seeing that.

You’re clearly not looking in the right places.  If you seriously think that 97% of fans are angry about Pearson going then I suspect you’re way off the mark.  Most fans have seen it all before.  Managers come and go.  It’s part of football.  Pearson had a good run, and has done some very good work, but at the end of the day, we’re in the same position we were in four seasons ago and have just lost a manager with one of the worst win percentages in the clubs history.  I’ve talked to Pearson and I liked him, but it’s hardly a huge surprise that he’s gone.  Time to move on.

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2 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

You’re clearly not looking in the right places.  If you seriously think that 97% of fans are angry about Pearson going then I suspect you’re way off the mark.  Most fans have seen it all before.  Managers come and go.  It’s part of football.  Pearson had a good run, and has done some very good work, but at the end of the day, we’re in the same position we were in four seasons ago and have just lost a manager with one of the worst win percentages in the clubs history.  I’ve talked to Pearson and I liked him, but it’s hardly a huge surprise that he’s gone.  Time to move on.

Time the Lansdowns and Tinnion moved on as well, mind. 

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4 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

You’re clearly not looking in the right places.  If you seriously think that 97% of fans are angry about Pearson going then I suspect you’re way off the mark.  Most fans have seen it all before.  Managers come and go.  It’s part of football.  Pearson had a good run, and has done some very good work, but at the end of the day, we’re in the same position we were in four seasons ago and have just lost a manager with one of the worst win percentages in the clubs history.  I’ve talked to Pearson and I liked him, but it’s hardly a huge surprise that he’s gone.  Time to move on.

You think we are in the same position as we were 4 years ago? Pearson has done wonders and made huge improvements.  To say thar, sorry mate, but you ain't got a clue

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2 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Just watched the Vyner interview. Got some bloke holding the microphone. Spotted a hand about 10 minutes in . Surely they can put a couple of microphones on the table. Seems so amateur 

Could also hear kids shouting in the background, or maybe it was JL interviewing new candidates. 

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Mr Popodopolous

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29 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

You’re clearly not looking in the right places.  If you seriously think that 97% of fans are angry about Pearson going then I suspect you’re way off the mark.  Most fans have seen it all before.  Managers come and go.  It’s part of football.  Pearson had a good run, and has done some very good work, but at the end of the day, we’re in the same position we were in four seasons ago and have just lost a manager with one of the worst win percentages in the clubs history.  I’ve talked to Pearson and I liked him, but it’s hardly a huge surprise that he’s gone.  Time to move on.

Perhaps not 97% across the fanbase but I doubt there are many who taking positives.

We were much more fiscally expansive 4 years ago, and the football was arguably worse- certainly the position and points were not really underpinned by performance level.

Put another way, how would Pearson do with Lee Johnson's squad prior to the rot setting in and how would Lee Johnson have done with Pearson's post rot, post disaster.

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Just now, hinsleburg said:

This has been posted a lot

And I'm extremely grateful every time it comes up as it gets me every time!

'And that's it really' 

Funniest, and most apt, thing I’ve seen all year. I will never get bored of watching that! Nail on the head! 🤣

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4 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

You’re clearly not looking in the right places.  If you seriously think that 97% of fans are angry about Pearson going then I suspect you’re way off the mark.  Most fans have seen it all before.  Managers come and go.  It’s part of football.  Pearson had a good run, and has done some very good work, but at the end of the day, we’re in the same position we were in four seasons ago and have just lost a manager with one of the worst win percentages in the clubs history.  I’ve talked to Pearson and I liked him, but it’s hardly a huge surprise that he’s gone.  Time to move on.

…. and being in the same position, rather than League 1 is a pretty impressive feat, considering the restrictions NP’s had to work under, wouldn’t you think?

No two ways about it, this sacking is stinking the place out.  Imho, no supporter who cares about the integrity of this club will find it acceptible, or justified.

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Just now, BrizzleRed said:

…. and being in the same position, rather than League 1 is a pretty impressive feat, considering the restrictions NP’s had to work under, wouldn’t you think?

No two ways about it, this sacking is stinking the place out.  Imho, no supporter who cares about the integrity of this club will find it acceptible, or justified.

Exactly this it stinks.

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14 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

You’re clearly not looking in the right places.  If you seriously think that 97% of fans are angry about Pearson going then I suspect you’re way off the mark.  Most fans have seen it all before.  Managers come and go.  It’s part of football.  Pearson had a good run, and has done some very good work, but at the end of the day, we’re in the same position we were in four seasons ago and have just lost a manager with one of the worst win percentages in the clubs history.  I’ve talked to Pearson and I liked him, but it’s hardly a huge surprise that he’s gone.  Time to move on.

Well put.

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2 minutes ago, Street red said:

Vyner improved as man that tells you what a great man manager Pearson is.

He certainly ended up having a great relationship with NP and I sense the boys are gutted and surprised by the owners decision to sack Nige....

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6 minutes ago, Street red said:

Vyner improved as man that tells you what a great man manager Pearson is.

Weimann posted something very similar, really struck me that that a player as experienced as him felt the value of working with Nige, not just as a football manager, but as a person.

Can you imagine any of our players saying anything along those lines for certain previous managers!

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9 minutes ago, BrizzleRed said:

…. and being in the same position, rather than League 1 is a pretty impressive feat, considering the restrictions NP’s had to work under, wouldn’t you think?

No two ways about it, this sacking is stinking the place out.  Imho, no supporter who cares about the integrity of this club will find it acceptible, or justified.

Spot on.

It remains an absolute joke. The bunch of ******* clowns never deserved him.

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10 minutes ago, Hartleysbeard said:

That’s what the interviewer suggested to him. And he then repeated that phrase. 
Thought it was a good interview with Zak, he speaks well and it’s nice to restore a bit of calm after a stormy week! 

Good interview.

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14 minutes ago, BrizzleRed said:

…. and being in the same position, rather than League 1 is a pretty impressive feat, considering the restrictions NP’s had to work under, wouldn’t you think?

No two ways about it, this sacking is stinking the place out.  Imho, no supporter who cares about the integrity of this club will find it acceptible, or justified.

That, for me, is the key legacy of Nigel's time here. He has overseen a reset in every aspect of football operations which in previous years would have seen us drop down to League 1 and have to build back better [that phrase seems familiar!!]

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26 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Just watched the Vyner interview. Got some bloke holding the microphone. Spotted a hand about 10 minutes in . Surely they can put a couple of microphones on the table. Seems so amateur 

Been the same for ages, I'm more surprised you can hear the actual questions. I generally stopped watching them because they were done so poorly, previous ones I have watched I had to go back and turn up the volume to hear the question. Non league pressers must be more professional than ours.

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